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    #541

    Oct 4, 2018, 04:51 PM
    I just have to ask, are we there yet?
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    #542

    Oct 4, 2018, 09:21 PM
    We may yet get there Clete, once Tom reveals his sources to his stories, or not.
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    #543

    Oct 5, 2018, 09:57 AM
    which story ? That chief FBI council James Baker coordinated with Perkins Coie ? It is indisputable.
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    #544

    Oct 5, 2018, 11:36 AM
    How about the whole thing... all the stories you put forth. In full disclosure, I have read all the right wing loonies accounts, and yours match very closely, but what I was more interested in that the Steele dossier was the only source of probable cause, and the political aspects where not disclosed. As a matter of law, even if it was used for probable cause in the first warrant, it surely cannot stand alone to be reauthorized by that judge let alone 2 subsequent ones after.

    That's right wing loony ignorance and dufus and his sycophant narrative.
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    #545

    Oct 5, 2018, 02:17 PM
    Any objective judge worth his salt is going to ask the FBI where they got the dossier and how it was is verified . That did not happen and I won't believe otherwise until we see the unredacted 302's It is a fact that Baker was the FBI contact with David Corn . Now he testified to Congress that he coordinated with Perkins Coie and it is clear that he coordinated the FBI efforts in discrediting candidate Trump for Evita and the emperor .
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    #546

    Oct 5, 2018, 03:59 PM
    So those FISA judges were not objective or stupid, and no way was the targets of those being investigated dubious in their dealings? Some theory but little EVIDENCE as one other forum member is fond of saying. Maybe when Mueller is done we will see more. You do understand it's an ongoing active investigation. The litigants can always appeal if there was wrong doing in the way the FBI or Mueller made their cases.
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    #547

    Oct 6, 2018, 09:18 AM
    Let's tie the 2 big stories together . Andrew Miller was subpoenaed by Mueller to testify against Roger Stone. He hired a constitutional attorney named Paul Kamenar who is challenging the constitutional legitimacy of Special Council Mueller in an appeals court .Andrew Miller v. United States
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    According to Kamenar, there are only two constitutionally permissible options for Special Counsel to have been appointed . An officer can be nominated by the President .Or Congress may create a law to skip over the nomination and confirmation process, and to vest the appointment of inferior officers in the President alone, in the court, or in the heads of departments, like an Attorney General.
    Mueller as you know was appointed by deputy AG Rosenstein . Kamenar says a Deputy AG does not have the power to appoint inferior officers.
    Rosenstein relied on authority that he claimed was vested in him under laws written by Congress to govern the powers of the AG. But that power " to appoint an inferior officer" is not listed in any of the laws written by Congress.

    Not only that ;under no one's rules is Rosenstein an "acting AG. By law he can only become and acting AG if the AG resigns ,or dies ,or is fired etc . Sessions is still AG . I'm guessing that the court will have to decide if his recusal satisfies the letter of the law .According to the argument ;only Sessions has the power to appoint a special council.

    This case is in the DC Circuit Court and could end up in SCOTUS .
    A win for Kamenar could invalidate all of Mueller's work including all previous prosecutions. Oral arguments are scheduled for November 8, 2018.
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    #548

    Oct 6, 2018, 11:16 AM
    The dufus has already appointed his 5th vote so he should be good to go after this weekend. I guess he solved that problem. Now he can fire everybody like he wanted to from jump street.
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    #549

    Oct 6, 2018, 01:53 PM
    not until after the elections .
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    #550

    Oct 6, 2018, 04:33 PM
    Why wait?

    Go SOX!
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    #551

    Oct 6, 2018, 04:50 PM
    split in Fenway ;sweep in the Bronx.

    https://www.mlb.com/cut4/aaron-judge...ay/c-297305406
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    #552

    Oct 19, 2018, 06:24 PM
    Jim Comey - Fired
    Andy McCabe - Under Grand Jury investigation
    Peter Strzok- Fired
    Bruce Ohr- Demoted
    Glenn Simpson - Pleading the 5th
    Joseph Mifsud - Can’t be located
    Downer - Keeps changing his story
    Steele - Can’t verify his information
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    #554

    Oct 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
    And the Russian woman's father's name is... Donald Trump! So there you have it. He is guilty as charged. This Russian woman also has solid evidence against Judge Kavanaugh, so they have him dead to rights as well. She can also prove that Pres. Trump was responsible for the Benghazi disaster and the anemic economic growth under Pres. Obama.
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    #555

    Oct 20, 2018, 06:10 PM
    I don't know if they have enough evidence to prove all of that, never know, but they are indicting her with enough evidence in connection with attempting to affect THIS election.

    You forgot the sarcasm font.
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    #556

    Oct 20, 2018, 06:44 PM
    At last, the smoking gun, a Russian interfered with an election somewhere, sometime. And who is responsible for the actions of a Russian citizen? Why, the US of course, they dared to hold elections.
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    #557

    Oct 20, 2018, 07:31 PM
    You forgot the sarcasm font.
    Very true.

    I imagine every large country tries to influence elections. I know President Obama attempted to do so in Israel. It should come as no surprise.
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    #558

    Oct 20, 2018, 08:00 PM
    Mueller required to prove allegations
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ddled-election

    Apparently it is not a crime to interfere in elections so the witchhunt has finally been shown to be a witchhunt
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    #559

    Oct 21, 2018, 06:47 AM
    I know President Obama attempted to do so in Israel. It should come as no surprise.
    not to mention our blatant interference in Ukraine . It would be too long to document all the cases of US interferences in foreign elections ;including but not limited to assassinations and coups .
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    #560

    Oct 21, 2018, 09:07 AM
    That doesn't mean you let a foreign dictator have his way against our country with utter impunity. A good watchdog is supposed to bark... and BITE when you get in his yard. So the Russians are going to court, big deal, it's just Mueller's move now. I doubt he is surprised at this event, nor unprepared as you guys think.

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