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    #301

    Jul 17, 2018, 05:09 PM
    When Trump called off the Kim meeting
    Huh????
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    #302

    Jul 17, 2018, 05:18 PM
    You remember the on, off, and on again Singapore meeting
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    #303

    Jul 17, 2018, 05:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    You remember the on, off, and on again Singapore meeting
    Just Googled it. You're right.
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    #304

    Jul 18, 2018, 09:16 AM
    I wouldn't call it groveling seeing as how the Dufus agreed when Kim promised to denuclearize, which hasn't happened and is a LONG LONG way off don't you think?
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    #305

    Jul 18, 2018, 04:05 PM
    Kim has weapons, but his ability to develop more is degraded for the time being. It is doubtful anything significant came from the meeting except a better understanding and a reduction of ridiculous rhetoric. I think the dialogue between NK and SK is the more important development
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    #306

    Jul 18, 2018, 04:31 PM
    And of course you have verified his ability to make new weapons has degraded right? >SNICKER<
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    #307

    Jul 18, 2018, 07:19 PM
    What I mean is test sites have been destroyed, which may be a ploy, but there haven't been more nuclear tests or rocket tests. Kim may be making more weapons or he has been told by Xi to cool it. The best outcome would be a peace treaty and an opening of trade between NK and SK. We can be sure Kim wants to participate in the China initiative and there would be a price for doing so. Small steps but positive ones are what we can hope for, and if they happen then step again. NK represents an untapped resource
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    #308

    Jul 19, 2018, 04:15 AM
    An intapped source of what? Condos on the beach for rich tourists? I doubt he has destroyed anything but a cave entrance, but I do agree the rhetorical level has gone down considerably, as has the military display levels. A good backdrop for quiet talks among the N & SK's. Actually exposing Russia on the world stage is not a bad thing either, maybe a baby step that leads to other steps?

    Talking about lifting sanctions is better than aiming Nukes, and conventional weapons, but in Kim's case we still are in the dark on his arms and sales(?), or Vlad's adventurism in the middle east and Baltics, and his cyber incursions into many nations. We will see what more is revealed into every ones motives, behavior, and actions, and the global reactions.

    As events unfold more will be revealed and my personal opinion the lying cheating loudmouth bully will also be exposed in MANY very important areas, of which he may have to answer for, and his presidency may not survive the scandal. The only REAL adult in the room who has quietly done his job and let his actions be his words. In the last few days even The Dufus sycophants have been very careful about blasting him or the investigation.
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    #309

    Jul 19, 2018, 06:11 AM
    Adult? Sycophant of a different order you mean. You have fallen for the bread and circuses act and wound up with the circus.
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    Jul 19, 2018, 09:58 AM
    One who serves his nation is hardly a sycophant, as it's his job to follow the EVIDENCE, and get to the truth, where ever that leads. LOL, interesting you see him as just another sycophant for the Dufus or whomever you meant, since he is respected by both of our political parties even if the Dufus and HIS sycophants rally together to holler foul.

    Maybe lumping people together under one blanket is a personal problem for you. I truly wish I could help you with that, but opening a closed mind may be beyond just my good intentions. I'll just stick with the facts as they present themselves and leave you with your own conclusions and opinions.

    Recent revelations certainly have the Dufus and his sycophants scrambling about in amusing ways though, and that circus is entertaining to us so called lefties.
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    #311

    Jul 19, 2018, 05:52 PM
    Mueller has given Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort. The fact that it is not the other way around is more evidence that this is a VERY partisan investigation.
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    #312

    Jul 19, 2018, 06:57 PM
    That would make 6 witnesses given immunity to testify against Manafort.
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    #313

    Jul 19, 2018, 07:56 PM
    Podesta also failed to register as a foreign agent . The defense is going to have a field day with this guy .
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    #314

    Jul 20, 2018, 06:27 AM
    The defense will have a field day with all the witnesses that have immunity. You think that will get Manafort off?
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    #315

    Jul 20, 2018, 07:57 AM
    Mueller is still trying to turn Manafort. I'm guessing the trial gets delayed ;just like Flynn's sentencing . All Mueller has to hear is "discovery " and he'll delay .
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    #316

    Jul 20, 2018, 10:33 AM


    Dealing With a Lawyer

    A new York Divorce Lawyer died and arrived at the pearly gates. SaintPeter asks him "What have you done to merit entrance into Heaven?" TheLawyer thought a moment, then said, "A week ago, I gave a quarter to ahomeless person on the street." Saint Peter asked Gabriel to checkthis out in the record, and after a moment Gabriel affirmed that thiswas true.

    Saint Peter said, "Well , that's fine, but it's not really quiteenough to get you into Heaven." The Lawyer said, "Wait Wait! There'smore! Three years ago I also gave a homeless person a quarter." SaintPeter nodded to Gabriel, who after a moment nodded back, affirmingthis, too, had been verified.

    Saint Peter then whispered to Gabriel, "Well, what do you suggest wedo with this fellow?"

    Gabriel gave the Lawyer a sidelong glance, then said to Saint Peter,

    "Let's give him back his 50 cents and tell him to go to Hell."

    Jimmy Kimmel

    President Trump today — in an attempt to explain what the Helsinkiwas going through his cotton candy-covered head when he stood next toVladimir Putin, of all people, and took sides with Russia over our ownAmerican intelligence agencies — now says it was just a tiny littleslip-up. Even smaller than his fists. This is like if Bill Clinton hadcome out and said, ‘Wait, no, I meant to say I did have sexualrelations with that woman!’

    Jimmy Kimmel
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    #317

    Jul 20, 2018, 10:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Mueller is still trying to turn Manafort. I'm guessing the trial gets delayed ;just like Flynn's sentencing . All Mueller has to hear is "discovery " and he'll delay .
    I think its too late for Manafort, but maybe that will work for her.

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    #318

    Jul 20, 2018, 11:07 AM
    yeah another one of these sophisticated spies that infiltrated the country and convinced millions of would-be Evita voters to pencil in the wrong block on the ballot .
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    #319

    Jul 20, 2018, 01:27 PM
    No more ridicules than the sham Russians right to bear arms. Vlad is rolling over holding his sides from laughing so hard at the fools who fell for it.
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    #320

    Jul 20, 2018, 07:21 PM
    What do you care whether the Russians have the right to bear arms? People knew what they saw and they knew that words weren't enough, fool me once, sham on me, fool me twice, not going to happen, you forgot the people in NEW YORK and CALIFORNIA don't rule the country

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