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    #41

    May 25, 2013, 11:44 PM
    No doubt that is going on
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    May 26, 2013, 03:08 AM
    Lord Voldemort in the Harry Potter series is referred to as "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named". In our Muggle world "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" is Muslim terrorism.

    A French soldier was stabbed by a 'robed attacker ' .
    French soldier stabbed in neck by robed attacker - The Washington Post

    BBC reported Nick Robinson was forced to apologize after he described the attacker of the slain British soldier ;who does have a name... Lee Rigby, as being 'of Muslim appearance'.

    BBC political editor Nick Robinson's extraordinary apology after backlash against 'Muslim appearance' comment about Woolwich killers | Mail Online

    The riots in Stockholm are being called ' youth riots'.
    But the racially charged riots, which have taken place largely in poor immigrant communities, actually expose deep social divisions that have threatened Sweden for years. There is, essentially, the Sweden of legend — and then there are large, poor immigrant communities where unemployment is rampant, especially among young people, and political participation is down.
    Five charts that help explain Sweden's youth riots
    Who are these poor young immigrants ? Have they immigrated from India ,China ? No these are Muslim immigrants.
    They operate under no such restraints. They proudly express their devotion to Allah as they decapitate the infidel .
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    #43

    May 26, 2013, 04:29 AM
    Agree, enough of this religious sensitivity and secular drama. People will call it as they see it.
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    May 26, 2013, 04:47 AM
    Recall the AP just eliminated the term Islamist from their stylebook. And as Mark Steyn notes:

    If you're thinking of getting steamed over all that, don't. Simon Jenkins, the former editor of the Times of London, cautioned against “mass hysteria” over “mundane acts of violence.” That's easy for him to say. 
    I think Orwell would even be shocked.
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    May 26, 2013, 05:02 AM
    This is where PC gets you pussyfooting around terrorists and let's call them what they are Muslim fanatics who follow a pedophile prophet of death
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    May 26, 2013, 06:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    this is where PC gets you pussyfooting around terrorists and let's call them what they are Muslim fanatics who follow a pedophile prophet of death
    Here's what some PC types call an Islamophobe website, but note the scholarship they bring to their "Islamophobia."

    Muslim Opinion Polls - Challenging the 'Tiny Minority of Extremists' Myth
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    May 26, 2013, 06:38 AM
    Powerful statistics there cats but you can bet the muslims aren't listening so you are preaching to the converted
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    May 26, 2013, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    powerful statistics there cats but you can bet the muslims arn't listening so you are preaching to the converted
    Just hoping Tal and WG and the troll kid read them.
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    May 26, 2013, 02:54 PM
    HI cats here's another they might read
    Most Muslims are peaceful, like most non-Muslims, but the Koran groans under the weight of its own contradictions, with entreaties to kindness co-existing with exhortations to merciless war. If the Koran were only a text of peace and mercy, tens of thousands of Muslims could not invoke its verses to engage in violence. Those who gravitate to the wrathful messages of the Koran bring their own pathologies with them, which they then cloak in zealous piety. Apologists argue that those who use the Koran to justify violence are not Islamic. And in the West there is fearfulness to trigger the belligerent victimology that extreme Muslims use to cloak intransigence, separatism and special-pleading.

    Read more: psychopaths using Islam to justify their bloodlust.
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    May 26, 2013, 03:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    hI cats here's another they might read
    Most Muslims are peaceful,
    How many of those 'peaceful' Muslims joined the party on Sept. 11, 2001, dancing in the streets? I admit my view is colored by the fact that I lost a friend who I owed my life to at the embassy in Teh'ran, but I really think about 180 rads would improve their attitude.
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    May 26, 2013, 04:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    How many of those 'peaceful' Muslims joined the party on Sept. 11, 2001, dancing in the streets? I admit my view is colored by the fact that I lost a friend who I owed my life to at the embassy in Teh'ran, but I really think about 180 rads would improve their attitude.
    Look I appreciate your point of view, they have been able to get away with what they are doing for too long. Islam is a subversive element in western countries and needs to be seen as such, Fanatical Islam is destroying countries in Africa right now and is responsible for major conflicts, Personally I think we should help all the Christians in these countries to migrate and send all the Muslim back, then maybe they will be content, they can war among themselves as much as they like and we can turn off the news feed after all muslim kill muslim is not news, it is life. And yes I think you have hit upon the Palestinian solution
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    #52

    May 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
    So much for free speech in the UK, at least 11 people have been arrested in the UK for "making 'racist or anti-religious' comments on Twitter" since Rigby's brutal murder. That's probably coming soon to the US, once Obama gets his Obamacare campaign groove going you better watch what you say on Twitter, his snitches are probably already lined up.

    Anyway, if you see someone leaving bacon at a mosque in the UK be sure and let Faith Matters know so they can fight such radical extremism.
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    May 28, 2013, 03:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So much for free speech in the UK, at least 11 people have been arrested in the UK for "making 'racist or anti-religious' comments on Twitter" since Rigby's brutal murder. That's probably coming soon to the US, once Obama gets his Obamacare campaign groove going you better watch what you say on Twitter, his snitches are probably already lined up.

    Anyway, if you see someone leaving bacon at a mosque in the UK be sure and let Faith Matters know so they can fight such radical extremism.
    Free speech is not free if it leads to death and twitter is not speech. Everyone should watch what they say on the internet it may be held against them, as far as bacon is concerned I remember when a pig's throat was cut and he was allowed to run through a mosque in Sydney and no one thought it radical or extreme but of course it was a criminal act. How times have changed
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    May 29, 2013, 04:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    free speech is not free if it leads to death and twitter is not speech. Everyone should watchop what they say on the internet it may be held against them, as far as bacon is concerned I remember when a pig's throat was cut and he was allowed to run through a mosque in Sydney and no one thought it radical or extreme but of course it was a criminal act. How times have changed
    Maybe down under, but here free speech is free speech... except on college campuses which is another thread, Holder has just instituted unconstitutional speech codes. But you miss the point, they're cracking down on the wrong thing in the UK and that Faith Matters seems more upset at offending Muslims than they are at Muslims beheading people in the street and making a spectacle of it.

    It's all bass ackwards.
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    #55

    May 29, 2013, 04:42 AM
    You may think they have it wrong but cracking down on those who are radicalising youth by their "free speech" is long overdue. I will say it again speech is not free if it costs a life and americans need to learn this lesson just as much as anyone else otherwise you should applaud the pig as an act of free speech.


    Muslims need to understand we are offended by the acts of the radicals among them and they have the power but not the will to stop these radicals so someone else will do it for them It was said of Christians in Germany is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, the same applies to Muslims. Time to decide which side you are on PC or righteousness
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    May 29, 2013, 05:19 AM
    Yeah we see where your thoughts lead to... Eric Holder using a 1918 "espionage" law to curb the rights of a free press.
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    May 29, 2013, 06:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yeah we see where your thoughts lead to .....Eric Holder using a 1918 "espionage" law to curb the rights of a free press.
    Law reform is the legitimate pursuit of politicians. You have courts to ajudicate these matters
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    May 29, 2013, 06:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    you may think they have it wrong but cracking down on those who are radicalising youth by their "free speech" is long overdue. I will say it again speech is not free if it costs a life and americans need to learn this lesson just as much as anyone else otherwise you should applaud the pig as an act of free speech.


    Muslims need to understand we are offended by the acts of the radicals among them and they have the power but not the will to stop these radicals so someone else will do it for them It was said of Christians in Germany is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, the same applies to Muslims. time to decide which side you are on PC or righteousness
    There is no righteousness in taking away my constitutional rights to appease the appeasers and what's happening here is that PC crowd has this delusion that if we just stop offending the religion of perpetual outrage they'll behave. In effect, they are given a pass while the "righteous" are muzzled when they SHOULD be speaking out.
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    May 29, 2013, 10:47 AM
    If jihad is used as tool of terror and spread in the islam then calling it islamic terror is right. These people are not freedom fighter or fighting for any noble cause. Soul purpose of jihad centred around islam not humanity.
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    May 29, 2013, 03:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    There is no righteousness in taking away my constitutional rights to appease the appeasers and what's happening here is that PC crowd has this delusion that if we just stop offending the religion of perpetual outrage they'll behave. In effect, they are given a pass while the "righteous" are muzzled when they SHOULD be speaking out.
    Aren't we saying the same thing, muslims need to be muzzled in the area of hate speech just like anyone else

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