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NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

NK you are such a hypocrite

AFP: Police shooting sparks riots in Montreal's Haitian quarter

My advice to the cop is choke up and follow through with a slight uppercut .

From the article you quoted:

Rioters torched cars and three police officers were injured late Sunday in a heavily Haitian district of Montreal, according to police and media reports Monday.More than 500 police were deployed and six people were arrested in the riots, which erupted after the police shot dead an 18-year-old man on Saturday.

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Police have launched an investigation into the shooting, which occurred in an area which frequently sees clashes between street gangs.

How is that comparable to peaceful protesters? Of course I knew you would back up the cops, the old school people do, they just roll over and take it... until it affects them. You are safe hiding behind your keyboard every day, some people actually go out in the real world and make their feelings known.

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 03:43 AM

Here's another fun one:

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 03:54 AM

NK I have participated in protests and demonstrations and have gone to government to make public statements .I have actively campaigned for and against candidates .

At all of these events if a cop told me to move back or disperse I would've gladly done so .This cop was not refusing her right to peacefully demonstrate .

Tell me all the times you have confronted police and refused to do what they have reasonably told you to do.

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

reasonably

I believe that is a point up for debate, whether they were using reasonable tactics in the face of... well no threat at all.

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 04:15 AM

You don't know that do you ? I watched other video of protesters provoking cops and begging to get arrested.

But what is clear is that this protester crossed the line . The only debatable point is if the tactics the cop used after that was necessary.

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

But what is clear is that this protester crossed the line .

How? I know it seems real clear to you but it isn't for me.

progunr · Aug 28, 2008, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by asking

Let's say it did affect you personally.

Imagine if a cop was trying to tell you to do something you didn't want to do--let's say your wife calls you to say she and the cat are trapped in a burning house, but the police officer says you can't approach within a quarter mile of the house, which is in a burning neighborhood. You get upset and try to talk to him and he shouts at you to get back. You don't, because you want to talk to him. He strikes you, knocking you down, and arrests you, sending you to jail for the night.

Would you feel that's just the way things are and you pretty much deserved it for getting in his face?

That has to be the most childish comparison I've seen yet!

You got to be kidding me, is there no level you will stoop to, to try to make your point?

A better example would be "I'm protesting, and a group of cops tells me I have to move back behind the line. OK, I move back behind the line and continue my peaceful protest.
I DON'T get in the cops face, after he has already given me a little push to motivate me to follow his instructions, and yell 'DO IT AGAIN"! That is just plain STUPID.

Geezz, I've heard of apples to oranges, but that one was more like apples to dog poop!

excon · Aug 28, 2008, 07:24 AM

Hello:

Cops suck.

excon

progunr · Aug 28, 2008, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

Cops suck.

excon

I agree.

Right up to the point where YOU or someone in YOUR FAMILY needs one.

Then they don't suck so bad.

excon · Aug 28, 2008, 07:36 AM

Hello again, prog:

Tis true... If somebody was breaking into my house, I wouldn't call a hippie.

excon

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 07:40 AM

American Thinker: The broken dream of police brutality in Denver

excon · Aug 28, 2008, 07:49 AM

Hello tom:

Quoting right wing publications doesn't make points with me. Besides, your point, MISSES the point entirely. It doesn't matter how many times the cops were good. It only matters when they're bad.

You're one of the people who wonder why the press doesn't print good news. Can't help you there.

excon

George_1950 · Aug 28, 2008, 09:33 AM

Has Obama referred this alleged violation of rights to the Justice Department, like he does those that criticize him? Or is Obama a part of this problem?

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 09:37 AM

George,
I believe it was ordered by McCain.

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 09:42 AM

The incident that George linked to involved reporters trying to tape Democrat delegates going into a special interest hosted party. Obama (Zeus ) has said that the new Democrat party would not be beholden to special interests .

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 09:46 AM

Ex the fact is that recreate 68 went to Denver with the expressed and very public expectation of causing trouble and provoking the police to react .I think what was witnessed on the video is restraint... a perfectly executed bunt instead of a swing for the fence. The girl was quite a flopper judging from the video. She gets a 10 for her dive.

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 09:50 AM

Tom, you've hit a new low. Congrats. I truly see you as a wife beater now.

progunr · Aug 28, 2008, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Ex the fact is that recreate 68 went to Denver with the expressed and very public expectation of causing trouble and provoking the police to react .I think what was witnessed on the video is restraint ....a perfectly executed bunt instead of a swing for the fence. The girl was quite a flopper judging from the video. She gets a 10 for her dive.

Since we can't see how much road rash she got, I lean more towards maybe a 8.75.

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2008, 10:27 AM

I'd be too afraid to beat my wife. Got to sleep some time...

NeedKarma · Aug 28, 2008, 10:37 AM

Yup, that's what I expected - keyboard courage.