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    Mar 23, 2018, 01:39 PM
    I've said it for years ;it doesn't matter what party label a New York politician wears . They are all in the end just big government statists . herr Donald had a pang of conscious today because he heard the backlash . But in the end ;it was his supporters he threw under the bus. IF Evita had won ,the Repubics would've grown a backbone and voted against such budget busting spending . herr Donald is the best thing that has happened to the Dems .You want to talk collusion ? There it is .He's a Manchurian Democrat ;a Trojan horse .
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    Mar 23, 2018, 02:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I've said it for years ;it doesn't matter what party label a New York politician wears . They are all in the end just big government statists . herr Donald had a pang of conscious today because he heard the backlash . But in the end ;it was his supporters he threw under the bus. IF Evita had won ,the Repubics would've grown a backbone and voted against such budget busting spending . herr Donald is the best thing that has happened to the Dems .You want to talk collusion ? There it is .He's a Manchurian Democrat ;a Trojan horse .
    Now didn't I say that before he was elected, he was in the race to have Dilliary elected and became the accidental President
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    Mar 24, 2018, 04:24 AM
    The blowhard just wanted to make a soundbite that covered his arse with his base. This deal has been negotiated for the longest since the last shutdown threat, and it was obvious for one side to pass it, they would have to give the other side more than just crumbs, or lip service. Everybody knew what was coming and what would be required.

    LOL, repubs better get use to compromising, because it is the SILLY SEASON of elections and taking votes on anything will have plenty of TV ads run against them.

    Actually he looked like a big DUFUS reading the talking points about ships and planes and military stuff. Laughed my a$$ of when he touted the F35, and blustered how he "would NEVER sign another bill like this again!" What a maroon. He has always been a lying, cheating, bullying, moron, and it's shameful that people actually look to him to have something to feel good about themselves to make their America great again.

    I was a never Trumpper way back in the day and it didn't matter what party he ran with. Thank the stars he chose to be a Republican.
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    Mar 24, 2018, 06:26 AM
    nope party leaders Schmuckster ,Madam Mim ,Yertle the Turtle and Eddie Munster met behind closed doors to finalize the bill. There was less than 2 days to read it . This wasn't compromise it was 'ram it down our throats . We have to get back to normal budgeting where dept. by dept. is considered separately . herr Donald was doing CYA . This monstrosity bill was based on the budget he proposed. He can't escape that . It's like if the emperor said he would never sign porkulus again . Too late ! The damage is done.
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    Mar 24, 2018, 06:53 AM
    Oh yeah that's a recipe for disaster letting repub run committee's vote their agendas through. No way would the dems go for that. Half of them wouldn't know what they were reading anyway and was it a coincidence the last day to keep the government open was the weekend the congress was planning its color Easter eggs and chase chocolate bunnies spring extravaganza?

    I don't think so. Your right though it's signed, sealed, and delivered, so let's get on with the clown show. Take me out to the ballgame!
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    Mar 24, 2018, 07:03 AM
    The debt is up over a $ trillion... the Dow is down. Maybe Repubics holding hands with Dems isn’t such a great idea. Most of the Rep class of 2010 ran because they thought the emperor's adding $800 billion in deficit spending was bad for the country . They may as well be wearing Donkey tee shirts .
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    Mar 24, 2018, 08:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The debt is up over a $ trillion... the Dow is down. Maybe Repubics holding hands with Dems isn’t such a great idea. Most of the Rep class of 2010 ran because they thought the emperor's adding $800 billion in deficit spending was bad for the country . They may as well be wearing Donkey tee shirts .
    You would rather have a government shutdown?

    Maybe my perspective is a bit different. There was no economic catastrophes when The Dufus took the WH. No secret war spending going on. Just a repub congress waiting for a repub to sign the agenda. So if things became whack on Dufus's watch, then he owns it, and he has said he loves the chaos. Fine, repubs got what they paid for, and are getting paid with those tax cuts. That was after failing to get anything else done. I can't wait for repubs to go home to see how well they took care of their constituents. Especially in November when those bonuses get spent and that 40/50/60 bucks of tax cuts goes toward those heating bills and groceries.

    You may as well save your disappointments and reservations until REALITY settles in. All you need is a few layoffs and the price of a dollar to tick up to finally realize the Trump economy was no better than the Bush economy...in many ways it's worse, but the sugar high that The Dufus rode in on, is about to come crashing down.

    Maybe The Dufus gets his line item veto, or convinces Moron Mitch to ditch the filibuster(Hardey Har Har!!). He better get something because Nancy is chomping at the bit to roll this lying, cheating, bully. Think he is watching the Gun Reform March?
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    Mar 24, 2018, 10:33 AM
    There was no economic catastrophes when The Dufus took the WH.
    except an almost decade long stagnation that the Dems called 'the new normal'.

    No secret war spending going on.
    You can't be serious . When the emperor left office our troops were engaged in conflicts in 7 different nations (Syria ;Iraq ;Afghanistan ,Yemen ,Somalia ,Pakistan)
    Maybe The Dufus gets his line item veto
    unconstitutional ;can't happen without and amendment
    convinces Moron Mitch to ditch the filibuster
    That's what Reid did when it suited him
    He better get something because Nancy is chomping at the bit to roll this lying, cheating, bully.
    That's all the Dems have is this fantasy that they will impeach .
    Think he is watching the Gun Reform March?
    Nahhh he is @ Mara Largo today .He worked very hard signing that p.o.s. spending bill . This march will be the last gasp of this anti-gun movement . The only reason it has lasted this long is because the advocate adults have been egging the students on. It's sorta like the 'Children's Crusades ' . Some adult thought it was a good idea when some kids said they could do a better job than the adults fighting jihadistan. So the adults dressed the kids up as warriors and paid for their passage into the war zone. As you know ,that did not turn out well. I guess marching in DC where there are about 125-150 homicides annually ;roughly half of them under 19 . But I suggest if they really want to make a statement they should head of north about an hour and have their march in Baltimore where there was 343 murderers last year . Or maybe the Patriots could lend them their jet again to fly to Chi-town where there has been 3,000 shootings this year alone. Parkland as bad as it was is a one off event . The children of Chicago live the threat every day .
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    Mar 24, 2018, 12:02 PM
    There was no economic catastrophes when The Dufus took the WH.

    except an almost decade long stagnation that the Dems called 'the new normal'.

    Naw, that was Big BIZ holding the line on wages while they got PHAT with loot. Still they hollered about their taxes were too high, and got a deficit funded tax cut, which they immediately bought off the board and stock shares and that for them was NORMAL...Duh! I guess you missed the recession where millions of people got wiped out and have yet to recover. I know you hate regulation but wage stagnation cannot be cured with congress and repubs would NEVER raise the minimum wage, though many states have and more to follow.

    No secret war spending going on.

    You can't be serious . When the emperor left office our troops were engaged in conflicts in 7 different nations (Syria ;Iraq ;Afghanistan ,Yemen ,Somalia ,Pakistan)

    All in the budget, check it out. The first thing Obama did was put the costs of wars back on the books after GWB hiss them with CR's

    Maybe The Dufus gets his line item veto

    unconstitutional ;can't happen without and amendment

    That's why he is a DUFUS! Or he was just blowing smoke up his bases a$$...again.

    convinces Moron Mitch to ditch the filibuster

    That's what Reid did when it suited him

    Oh how Repubs cried, but fact is it was limited and targeted and still used by repubs to this day. Poor Pence has to stick around to break ties in the senate to confirm The Dufus's cabinet and judicial nominees.

    He better get something because Nancy is chomping at the bit to roll this lying, cheating, bully.

    That's all the Dems have is this fantasy that they will impeach .

    STEP RIGHT UP AND PLACE YOUR BETS!

    Think he is watching the Gun Reform March?

    Nahhh he is @ Mara Largo today .He worked very hard signing that p.o.s. spending bill .

    That's all repubs wanted him to do sign his name but he won't shut up. Things would be easier if he did that! Likely his work is done until after the election unless they can't get a simple CR in September. I will have to comment on the rest of your paragraph at a later time. Chicago was HOME for me. Obviously I disagree with both your premise and conclusion.

    On the march though, man those were some smart articulate young people and likely are driving the Dufus NUTS since the crowd was bigger than his inaugural address. Of course FOX News probably didn't cover it.


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    Mar 24, 2018, 12:47 PM
    wouldn't know . It's been a long time since I wasted time watching news programs of any ilk. And the only radio show worth listening to is John Batchelor Show
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    Mar 24, 2018, 05:23 PM
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    There was no economic catastrophes when The Dufus took the WH.


    No secret war spending going on.


    How do you know? it's a secret

    You can't be serious . When the emperor left office our troops were engaged in conflicts in 7 different nations (Syria ;Iraq ;Afghanistan ,Yemen ,Somalia ,Pakistan)
    and you are still engaged in these wars and what about Africa?
    unconstitutional ;can't happen without and amendment

    That's why he is a DUFUS! Or he was just blowing smoke up his bases a$$...again.

    convinces Moron Mitch to ditch the filibuster



    The poli's won't ditch the filibuster, they hate free speech and love denying others the right to say something

    .

    Think he is watching the Gun Reform March?


    No that sort of people power is not what Dump is about

    Nahhh he is @ Mara Largo today .He worked very hard signing that p.o.s. spending bill .
    Yes Dump's impression of working hard, signing his name in big letters and tweeting
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    Mar 25, 2018, 02:59 AM
    and you are still engaged in these wars and what about Africa?
    Somalia isn't in Africa ? News to me .
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    Mar 25, 2018, 10:26 AM
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    Somalia isn't in Africa ? News to me .
    Actually I was referring to West Africa, but yes that hole is in Africa. Your government and my government have people running around Africa, whether this is of benefit is unclear
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    Mar 25, 2018, 10:29 AM
    We wouldn't be there without invitation or consent of the government, mostly helping with rebels and terrorists.
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    Mar 25, 2018, 10:47 AM
    don't mind Clete . His nation is wrestling over the issue if they should take in South African refugees who are going to be expelled ala Rhodesia aka Zimbabwe style by the majority government .
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    Mar 25, 2018, 12:03 PM
    rapper Cardi B chimes in on the tax policy of the country . She wants to know what the government is doing with her money .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcJhHo1cFgc
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    Mar 25, 2018, 02:48 PM
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    don't mind Clete . His nation is wrestling over the issue if they should take in South African refugees who are going to be expelled ala Rhodesia aka Zimbabwe style by the majority government .
    Actually Tom we are not wrestling over whether to take in White South Africans, they would be more compatible than migrants from the middle east, personally I think we should issue an open invitation to white people displaced on the african continent. We certainly don't need any more trouble-making Somali's or Sudanese.

    Tom you know as well as I do a majority government pursues policies favourable to their majority constituents
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    Mar 25, 2018, 04:35 PM
    Mugabe starved his whole population with such policies .
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    Mar 25, 2018, 04:40 PM
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    Mugabe starved his whole population with such policies .
    Yes well Africa has seen off two corrupt leaders recently and we could hope for better outcomes, but the day of the white man of Africa is over, the fact that they have been there for hundreds of years has not been respected
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    Mar 25, 2018, 05:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Actually Tom we are not wrestling over whether to take in White South Africans, they would be more compatible than migrants from the middle east, personally I think we should issue an open invitation to white people displaced on the african continent. We certainly don't need any more trouble-making Somali's or Sudanese.

    Tom you know as well as I do a majority government pursues policies favourable to their majority constituents
    No surprise you would assume displaced white people are great people and the darker skinned displaced people are NOT. Part of your obvious M.O.

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