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    #21

    Aug 17, 2017, 06:45 AM
    They should arrest everyone who committed a violent act
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    #22

    Aug 17, 2017, 01:05 PM
    A lot of leftists really love their ANTIFA terrorist brothers, and it's apparent here because there were no wholesome innocent parties involved in that violence, but the media and those on the left that love their ANTIFA terrorist brothers want you to believe otherwise.

    Funny how the lame stream media left out the other two groups of human waste involved, foreign news didn't. Some anyway.
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    Aug 17, 2017, 02:25 PM
    If you wanted to identify the Antifa thugs all you had to do was look for the black helmets and the Bane masks they wore (provided by Soros and co. ) The Nazis were the ones carrying Tiki lamps . What a pathetic display . I've changed my view . The cops should've allowed both sides to club each other until the last man standing ....then arrest him.
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    Aug 17, 2017, 04:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    If you wanted to identify the Antifa thugs all you had to do was look for the black helmets and the Bane masks they wore (provided by Soros and co. ) The Nazis were the ones carrying Tiki lamps . What a pathetic display . I've changed my view . The cops should've allowed both sides to club each other until the last man standing ....then arrest him.
    That seems to have been their general intention
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    Aug 18, 2017, 05:42 PM
    American history is pretty nasty when you look at the facts of it. The founders lied when they wrote the constitution, and Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis committed treason. The nation was built on rape and plunder, in the most cruel ways. We still bear those scars today, some deeper than others, and the trauma from it, some more than others, yet it continues, no matter how civilized we pretend to be. No matter how far we say we have come. So don't ask me where was I, ask me where I am. That should be obvious since I am right next to you trying to survive all this senseless crap.

    So don't ask me where I was when idiots did stupid stuff, because you know good and darn well I wasn't with him, so what difference does it make? I've never asked you where were you when they elected a racist, lying, cheating dufus as president have I? Why? Because it doesn't matter, he is HERE NOW! Just another dumb senseless thing to deal with.

    Can't say I have survived worse at this point in time because Trump is the worse in my book. I didn't vote for the b@stard, and this wasn't the first time the guy I didn't vote for became the leader of the free world. This is the first time that I have been SCARED about what comes next because the last 8 months have been the most senseless pile of crap I have ever seen.

    The real story at Charlottesville was the cops and National Guard standing down when the violence erupted
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    The real story is they were prepared when the 30 Klansmen visited in July.

    KKK Rally in Charlottesville: Protestors March in Virginia | Time.com

    This one was way bigger.
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    Aug 18, 2017, 06:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    the last 8 months have been the most senseless pile of crap I have ever seen.
    r.
    Well that's what you get when you try to marry the eigthteenth century with modern realities
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    Aug 19, 2017, 03:04 AM
    and Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis committed treason.
    Funny ,the only serious talk I hear about secession these days is coming out of California . Yes secession was treason then and now . From the Brit standpoint the founders were also treasonous .I guess you are consistent .You demonstrate the same hatred for the founders that you do for the traitors .
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    Aug 19, 2017, 04:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Funny ,the only serious talk I hear about secession these days is coming out of California . Yes secession was treason then and now . From the Brit standpoint the founders were also treasonous .I guess you are consistent .You demonstrate the same hatred for the founders that you do for the traitors .
    How goes California, goes many others Tom, the whisper has even been heard as far away as the Great Southland
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    Aug 19, 2017, 05:07 AM
    45.8% of the land in California is federally owned .I suppose if they were to give real value compensation for it then I would consider letting them leave. They should also give compensation for the water they get from other western states that they now get through compacts between the states .
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    Aug 19, 2017, 06:21 AM
    Hello again,

    All I know is that IF the Nazis, white supremacists, and the KKK WIN the race war they're trying to start, they'll surly kill me and my family... I'm not so worried about ANTIFA..

    And yes, the Nazis have a right to march... But, I think my friend tom has mentioned that the Constitution ISN'T a suicide pact, and this is one time I agree.. So, while I might not like the strategy of ANTIFA, I sure hope they kick a lot of Nazi a$$.

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    Aug 19, 2017, 07:14 AM
    Ex ,Antifa (aka Antifaschistische Aktion 1932 Germany ) represents a different brand of the same tyranny . What makes you think you would be any safer under their kind of intolerance ? Look at what they did in Berkeley when Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to give an address on campus . Fine there were protests .But it turned violent when Antifa showed up .They set fires, damaged property to the tune of $100,000 in damage , threw fireworks, attacked members of the crowd, and threw rocks at the police. One Syrian was pepper sprayed and beaten with a rod by a goon who said "you look like a Nazi".

    What is very similar to the Berkeley and Charlottesville incidents is that in both cases ,the cities are run by liberal mayors ;and in both cases it appears that the police were given stand down orders .
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    #32

    Aug 19, 2017, 08:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What makes you think you would be any safer under their kind of intolerance ?
    Hello again, tom:

    Cause ANTIFA hasn't demonstrated HATRED for Jews.

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    #33

    Aug 19, 2017, 09:23 AM
    Stop being so stubborn EX! Tom just longs for the good old days Trump has promised, when black people did as they were told by MASSA, and the Jews walked quietly and orderly to the furnace. Can't you just bend a knee and say HEIL TRUMP? Watch Tom he has it down pat!
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    Aug 19, 2017, 09:47 AM
    you too ?
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    Aug 19, 2017, 10:44 AM
    I bend no knee to Trump, the right, or the left. I do understand FEAR though, of change and survival, but the methods are what makes the difference, and that's why you think I am a bleeding heart liberal, because I will always callout what I think ain't a fair way to go about making adjustment that are required to KEEP my country great, and I ain't buying the idea that it needs to be great AGAIN.

    I understand you are a capitalist, and against anything that stops you from making a dollar. I can respect that, to a point. You cross a line when you demand I bend the knee so you can pee on my head, and call it rain.

    I am sure you're the same, we've been debating the issues a long time. Most times I feel ya, even when you exaggerate a bit, and see danger under your bed, and ignore the squeaky springs caused by your own restlessness, and FEAR!

    How do you like the way the Boston cops handled the protest rally in their city? First rate in my book. That's what was missing in Charlottesville, and yes the fault belongs to the city government. Democrats I believe. They screwed it all up.
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    Aug 19, 2017, 12:43 PM
    1. How do you like the way the Boston cops handled the protest rally in their city?
    We'll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgement of all wrong
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song
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    #37

    Aug 19, 2017, 02:59 PM
    You old rocker!

    CSI: Miami Theme Song | Movie Theme Songs & TV Soundtracks

    Nothings changed

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=twiste...&setlang=en-US

    EXCEPT the VOLUME!! Crank it UP!
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    #38

    Aug 20, 2017, 02:34 AM
    How do you like the way the Boston cops handled the protest rally in their city?
    The Boston cops did a decent job. They were hit with bottles of urine and pelted with rocks by the Antifa for their efforts . Apparently, as long as Taliban leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody.They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of.....including an old lady carrying an American flag .

    Back in June ,Bernie Sanders-supporter James Hodgkinson called the GOP “fascist” before he opened fire on GOP congressional reps critically injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise . So you see, he wasn’t trying to commit mass murder! He was just fighting “Nazis.”
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    Aug 20, 2017, 06:50 AM
    Of course your spin of the rally is a bit exaggerated, a tendency most conservatives seem to share.

    Boston 'Free Speech Rally' cut short as conservative activists leave counterprotesters behind | Fox News

    The tweet came just a few hours after dozens of rallygoers gathered at the historic Boston Common and were met with thousands of counterprotesters who had marched peacefully through downtown Boston.
    Boston Police Department Commissioner William Evans said in late afternoon there had been 27 arrests, most for disorderly conduct, along with a few for assaulting police officer

    He added there were few injuries and no significant property damage.

    Organizers of the rally had publicly distanced themselves from the neo-Nazis, white supremacists and others whose “Unite the Right” march in Charlottesville turned deadly Aug. Only a few dozen conservatives turned out to the Boston rally, in stark contrast to the approximately 40,000 people who showed up to protest against racism and bigotry.
    Hodgekinson was a homicidal nut. Like that guy who shot Gabby Giffords.
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    Aug 20, 2017, 09:25 AM
    It was peaceful because the police protected the free speech demonstrators from the mob. Read the last paragraph of this report .It is the m.o. of antifa to comingle with peaceful protesters and then assault and vandalize .
    Boston cops hailed for keeping the peace | Boston Herald

    They did the same assault on Portland police in June who were also enforcing barriers between rally goers and counter-protesters .

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