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    Sep 24, 2011, 09:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Clearly, you DO. And, I didn't use a source. I used my EARS.
    One loud guy and a few other idiots just as I said.



    Compare that to a real AUDIENCE reaction, not just a few a$$holes.



    I stand on what I said.

    Instead of denying that you HAVE those nuts, why don't you put them in their place??
    Dude, you really don't read my posts do you? I called them "idiot", "a couple of morons" and "boobs" and now a$$holes. What do you want me to do, execute them?
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    Sep 24, 2011, 09:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, you really don't read my posts do you? I called them a couple of morons" and "boobs and now a$$holes. What do you want me to do, execute them?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh, you did good. Nancy Pelosi is jerk. Are we even?

    excon
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    Sep 24, 2011, 09:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh, you did good. Nancy Pelosi is jerk. Are we even?

    excon
    Not yet, I'm 1-1 thanks to a lousy running game. But then again, how 'bout them Cheeseburgers?
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    Sep 28, 2011, 09:11 AM
    Enjoy...

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    Sep 28, 2011, 10:15 AM
    And all the Sarah Palin bashing from the left? And the Bush bashing? And the Cheney Bashing... all from the left are OK?

    Besides, there is also Harry Reid, the man who takes it upon himself to decide what even merits a vote or not, like he believes he can command the House what they can and can't do.

    One down (Nancy Pelosi) Two more to go before government can leave the pre-school era.
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    Sep 28, 2011, 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Ok, first of all I seem to recall you excon, are the biggest Ron Paul supporter I know (the insured question).
    I do like Ron Paul. And I like you and Tom also. I also like Frank Farry (R) PA State Rep I voted for him when I moved to the 'Burbs. Because honestly the Democrat was an idiot.

    BUT The Tea Party Oh I think the tea party is a band of homophobic racist know nothing know it all idiots. Who really know nothing of what it is to actually love America for what it is. They talk all this ish about being a Patriot then boo a soldier for being gay I bet Thomas Jefferson would have booed to. Talk all this ish about Jesus then cheer for letting someone die. I'm sure that was one of Jesus's prouder moments for mankind.

    Listen to them talk I have to pay for this, I have to pay for that, that person doesn't have to do this, that person doesn't have to do that. They are going to take away MY _______ (fill in the blank) It's all about me me me with them. And honestly THEY are what's wrong with OUR country.
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    Sep 28, 2011, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I do like Ron Paul. And I like you and Tom also. I also like Frank Farry (R) PA State Rep I voted for him when I moved to the 'Burbs. Because honestly the Democrat was an idiot.

    BUT The Tea Party Oh I think the tea party is a band of homophobic racist know nothing know it all idiots. Who really know nothing of what it is to actually love America for what it is. They talk all this ish about being a Patriot then boo a soldier for being gay I bet Thomas Jefferson would have booed to. Talk all this ish about Jesus then cheer for letting someone die. I'm sure that was one of Jesus's prouder moments for mankind.

    Listen to them talk I have to pay for this, I have to pay for that, that person doesn't have to do this, that person doesn't have to do that. They are going to take away MY _______ (fill in the blank) It's all about me me me with them. And honestly THEY are what's wrong with OUR country.
    THEY didn't boo a soldier, a few morons did, and if they're racists why is Herman Cain so popular with them? Why is the San Antonio Tea Party headed by a Hispanic man? Come on Spit, that makes no sense... unless these guys aren't "authentic" minorities.

    P.S. One of the original Tea Party organizers, Ali Akbar, has invited Morgan Freeman to attend a Tea Party rally. Freeman, one of my favorite actors, recently said the Tea Party was racially motivated to get rid of Obama - a charge which is as absurd as me saying all liberals are intolerant bigots. The letter:



    Dear Mr. Freeman,

    My name is Ali Akbar. I'm a 26 year-old African-American small business owner and a tea party activist. I'm not writing to rake you over the coals in the way that many conservatives have done in the last 48 hours. Heck, I wrote a passionate open-letter refuting many of your claims already, but this is not that. This is an honest and standing invitation. I do believe that you are wrong in what you said about the tea party, but I would rather prove it to you than castigate you for your comments.

    I also understand that your reflexive comments came from experience. You grew up in a different America than the one that I was blessed to be born into. We both grew up in the south, but I never saw 'White Only' signs. I've been called a name or two in my three decades, but racism has always been the exception in my life, not the rule, as it probably was in your youth. I understand your suspicion of conservative political movements. It is rooted in pain and fear and memory, and though I never saw the horrors of segregation that you did, we share that cultural heritage.

    I've been a fan of yours all my life. From “Driving Miss Daisy” to “Lean on Me” to “The Shawshank Redemption,” I idolized you as a boy. Growing up without a father, you were one of the strong black men in my life who gave me a model to follow. Each of the characters you played had dignity and confidence. I tried to emulate the strength you projected. While many of my friends headed down the all-too-familiar path of drugs, unwed pregnancies and crime, I've striven to live a life with dignity, be an example for my brothers and make my mother proud.

    My favorite of your movies was “The Power of One.” I must've watched it a hundred times, crying every time when your character Geel Piet was killed by the racist South African. Geel Piet was brave and heroic, even in the face of death, because he knew that the hate that killed him was a trifle in comparison to the love that PK's anti-apartheid movement was spreading. It is with that spirit that I'm writing to you this morning.

    I've attended dozens of tea party events. I've helped organize them, and I've even spoken at a few. The tea party is not what is often depicted in the news. It is people of all colors who are terribly concerned about the direction that America is heading. We don't trust big government to make decisions for us. And we fear that the present administration's spending is going to lead our country down a path to insolvency, much like what Greece is currently facing.

    Your comments about the tea party have caused me physical pain. You've rekindled the old painful paradigm of Uncle Tom – that any black man who votes Republican is some kind of sellout. It's not true. I work hard, pay my taxes, love Jesus, and I'm good to my family and community. In effect, your comments have stereotyped an entire group of people. And I know in my soul that you must regret that on some level.

    There's already plenty of groupthink among American blacks. Over 90% of us vote Democrat with religious regularity, and we have been doing so for over fifty years. For a short time, I was one of them. I realized a few years ago that the Democrats' promises of equality bestowed by government wasn't working and will never work. I came to believe that redistributionist policies with the goal of social justice was essentially creating a new plantation within the federal government. Scraps might be thrown our way, but dependence on the plantation would be the inevitable result.

    Over half a century since we started voting for Democrat policies, blacks in America are worse off than before. Black Americans are more likely to get involved with drugs, go to prison, and die younger than our white counterparts. Over 70% of our children are born out of wedlock. Our abortion rate has never been higher. There are two explanations for these results. 1) Blacks are an inferior race and can't take care of themselves. 2) Despite the best of intentions, the government has created and implemented “social justice” policies that promote perpetual dependence. I choose to believe the latter. Therefore, I have become a Republican.

    Mr. Freeman, I'm not asking you to adopt my political views. You're in your seventies, and a political shift is not in your future. I'm reaching out to you because I want you to think better of your fellow countrymen. Barack Obama is in the White House, and Herman Cain just won the Florida straw poll. America is the land of opportunity for black Americans like never before.

    I'm hoping that you'll come to a tea party in Tennessee — the place of your birth. Really anywhere in the country that works for you; I'll set it up with the one of the thousands of activists I know around our great country. I'd be delighted to introduce you to good people who will welcome you with open arms, disagree with you, and then feed you some of the best barbecue you've ever tasted.

    Racism is an ugly thing, but I assure you that it is part of our past, not our present.

    It takes bravery to admit that you may have made a mistake. But, for Geel Piet, bravery is like breathing. It's just something you do.

    I hope you'll take me up on my offer.



    Sincerely,

    Ali Akbar

    [email protected]
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    Sep 28, 2011, 07:56 PM
    Steve my objection to the Tea party is there is no negotiation or compromise, and Rand Paul's latest stunt doesn't help.


    Naplesnews.com - Naples Daily News - AP News

    The bill would allow federal regulators to order that automatic shutoff valves be installed on new pipelines so leaks can be halted sooner, but it stops short of requiring the valves for existing pipelines. And it directs regulators to determine whether mandatory inspections of aging pipelines in densely populated areas should be expanded to include lines in rural areas. It would be paid for by industry fees.
    Paul said,
    "The bill puts in place new mandates; it hires new bureaucrats," Paul said. He also said the bill "grandfathers in the very pipelines that have had recent problems," an apparent reference to automatic shutoff valves.
    I have a big problem with idealogical stances stopping safety concerns.
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    Sep 29, 2011, 06:35 AM
    Yeah I know how people who think they aren't racist but really are work. They roll out their one or 2 non white friends and that makes everything OK. See were not racist. I wonder how many time Ali's name came up when he wasn't their and someone said oh don't worry he's one of the "good ones".
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    Sep 29, 2011, 07:05 AM
    Yeah I know... he and Herman Caine are one of them Uncle Tom Oreo cookies... Right ?
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    Sep 29, 2011, 07:15 AM
    I have a black friend.
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    Sep 29, 2011, 08:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Steve my objection to the Tea party is there is no negotiation or compromise, and Rand Paul's latest stunt doesn't help.
    Let me make something clear, I'm a conservative, I'm not a Tea Partier. I'll vote for a Democrat if they'll best represent my interests. I don't defend the Tea Party out of loyalty to them, the facts happen to matter to me and I'm flat fed up with people labeling anyone right of center as racists, bigots and intolerant boobs. It's just mean, ugly, inexcusably divisive and most of all completely untrue.

    I have a big problem with idealogical stances stopping safety concerns.
    But it's OK for Obama to raise taxes - even though he admits its harm to the economy and federal revenues - on his flawed principle of "fairness".
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    Sep 29, 2011, 08:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Yeah I know how people who think they aren't racist but really are work. They roll out their one or 2 non white friends and that makes everything ok. See were not racist. I wonder how many time Ali's name came up when he wasn't their and someone said oh don't worry he's one of the "good ones".
    Oh give me a break, Spit, that's ridiculous. I'm 51 and much like Ali said, I grew up in a different America than Morgan Freeman. I never saw those "white only" signs either. I barely remember some fuss about desegregation, when they closed the "black" high school we had, but from grade one I was the white minority. I didn't realize I was supposed to be racist until I joined these discussions on the original Askme when people made comments just like yours. Little did I know that all those years of my closest friends being Mexican-Americans didn't count... I must be racist because I'm a conservative.

    Really, Spit? I don't put my friends on display to prove anything, they're just friends. You're the one making it about color, not me.
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    Sep 29, 2011, 09:49 AM
    You do this every time I say something about the south or the right you automatically make it about you. I'm not talking about you. If you called liberals dirty long haired hippie freaks I don't think your talking about me.

    I don't consider you to be one of these lunatics. But here is my point Through out the campaign we were told Obama pals around with terrorist. Well from these videos the Republicans Pal around with troop hating wanting people to die cause they don't have insurance homophobes.
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    Sep 29, 2011, 10:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    You do this every time I say something about the south or the right you automatically make it about you. I'm not talking about you. If you called liberals dirty long haired hippie freaks I don't think your talking about me.

    I don't consider you to be one of these lunatics. But here is my point Through out the campaign we were told Obama pals around with terrorist. Well from these videos the Republicans Pal around with troop hating wanting people to die cause they don't have insurance homophobes.
    But that's just it, Spit, I am who you're referring to. My conservative friends had the same experience, we didn't know we were supposed to be disturbed that our classmates and neighbors weren't white like us. We don't care about skin color, we aren't the ones making it about race.

    Did we throw a fit when Bush made Powell his secretary of state, or chose Condi as his closest adviser, or when Clarence Thomas was nominated? No, we welcomed them all while the left painted them as "Uncle Tom Oreo cookies" instead of applauding their achievements and our diversity. That's just wrong, man. We don't want racists or troop-booing morons among us any more than you want them in your circle. We want an end to racism, too.

    P.S. Here, Janeane Garofalo makes your point for you:

    Janeane Garofalo: "Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.

    "People like Karl Rove liked to keep the racism very covert. And so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity say you can say 'Look, this is not a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look we have a black man.'"
    Oh yeah that's exactly it, a majority of Floridians gave him the straw poll win to hide their racism. Really, Spit? Come on, you don't want to be like those other race-baiters do you?
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    Sep 29, 2011, 11:03 AM
    I don't like it when MY government can't cut a deal, that addresses the problems. It doesn't matter about the politics, or personal beliefs. Just do your job.

    No, refusing to cut a deal, and all this brinkmanship, may make for great politics on TV, but these are peoples lives we are screwing around with.
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    Sep 30, 2011, 07:44 AM
    I am stating what I see. That the Tea party has homophobic racist who want people to die in their ranks. And by their logic since Obama pals around with terrorist that makes him a terrorist. So by THEIR logic since there are homophobic racist who want people to die in the tea party then they ALL must be like that. Right by their logic that is how this works. Or are republicans the only ones who can play that game.

    And as unfunny as I think Janeane Garofalo is, she is right. I love my grandmom but she is a racist not just outwardly But my friends are "good ones" as she says. She almost disowned me when I was dating a Haitian girl. So I know covert racism when I see it.

    On a side note I believe the Eagles team should be called the Day Dream Team cause their heads are not in these games.
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    Sep 30, 2011, 08:02 AM
    Janeane Garofalo, is a biggoted blowhard that is a legend in her own mind.
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    Sep 30, 2011, 08:18 AM
    Christies speech at the Reagan library almost made me puke, as I long for the days when Republicans made sense, and you could talk to them.

    All this hostage taking and obstructionism is no replacement for getting the work done. Even Reagan knew that.
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    Sep 30, 2011, 08:27 AM
    Yeah lets pass the 'jobs for blue state public unions act'

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