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tomder55
May 29, 2007, 10:59 AM
She gave her formal resignation on the lefty blog site Daily Kos Daily Kos: "Good Riddance Attention Whore" (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/28/12530/1525)

It is too long to post on this site but go to the link for complete text .

Tammy Bruce did a nice translation Tammy Bruce: The Pathetic Cindy Sheehan Quits, I Translate (http://tammybruce.com/2007/05/the_pathetic_cindy.php)

1. Everyone hates me now, even the Dems ("I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since Casey was killed and especially since I became the so-called "Face" of the American anti-war movement...I have been further trashed on such "liberal blogs" as the Democratic Underground.")

2. The money has dried up. (" [W]hen I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode... ")

3. People stopped paying attention to me. ("I guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of "right or left", but "right and wrong.")

4. Democrats are blind and stupid and just like Repubs because they don't agree with me, either. ("It amazes me that people who are sharp on the issues and can zero in like a laser beam on lies, misrepresentations, and political expediency when it comes to one party refuse to recognize it in their own party.")

5. America is evil. ("a fascist corporate wasteland...")

6. I wasted all my money and ignored my family to try to prove to myself I am not the attention whore that apparently I am. ("I have also reached the conclusion that if I am doing what I am doing because I am an "attention whore" then I really need to be committed.")

7. America is an ungrateful . ("I have invested everything I have into trying to bring peace with justice to a country that wants neither.")

8. I'm in debt and won't pay my bills because America is evil. ("my hospital bills from last summer (when I almost died) are in collection because I have used all my energy trying to stop this country from slaughtering innocent human beings.")

9. Americans are stupid and vapid and don't care. ("Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months.")

10. Everyone is jealous of me because I get all the attention. ("This group won’t work with that group; he won’t attend an event if she is going to be there; and why does Cindy Sheehan get all the attention anyway?")

11. Everyone is doomed, so I'm getting out while I can. ("Our brave young men and women in Iraq have been abandoned there indefinitely by their cowardly leaders who move them around like pawns on a chessboard of destruction and the people of Iraq have been doomed to death and fates worse than death ...I am going to take whatever I have left and go home.")

12. I need money. ("Camp Casey has served its purpose. It’s for sale. Anyone want to buy five beautiful acres in Crawford , Texas ? I will consider any reasonable offer.")

13. America is evil. ("Good-bye America ...you are not the country that I love and I finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice...")
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To that I'd like to add :
George Bush will never be impeached because if the Democrats dig too deeply, they may unearth a few skeletons in their own graves

YA THINK??

This isn't a surrender ,it is a redeployment to California.

What a sad person. It took her a long time to realize that she was just another useful idiot.

startover22
May 29, 2007, 11:08 AM
I am hoping she just stays out of the picture from now on. That is just about all I have to say except this: If you are reading this and you are in or have been in the service, THANK YOU, you are very brave and noble! There are more supporters in this world than you might think!

steviebeezie
May 29, 2007, 11:17 AM
Good riddance. I have been against the war and critical of both parties all along, but this woman just needs to get a life.

NeedKarma
May 29, 2007, 11:20 AM
a) That "translation" is a total attack job - are you gys too blind to see that?

b) call me when you lose a son in a pathetic 'war'.

startover22
May 29, 2007, 11:22 AM
Because we support the troops in this war, does not mean we support this war. Do you see what I am saying? Good luck and may God be with the soldiers AND their families!

startover22
May 29, 2007, 11:28 AM
Another thing, as a mother, I would never spoil my sons name if he was to die in a pathetic war. She did just that and also many other mothers son's names. How dare she do that, how dare her!

NeedKarma
May 29, 2007, 11:29 AM
She can do what she wants and you can ignore her.

startover22
May 29, 2007, 11:35 AM
Not when she is at my sons funeral I can't. You have to know Needkarma that there is a time and place for everything!

steviebeezie
May 29, 2007, 12:02 PM
A lot of people have lost children to this war. I am thankful my children are still kids and can't die in this senseless excuse for a war. Cindy Sheehan has every right to protest as an American citizen, but as far as I'm concerned, she doesn't do it in a constructive or effective manner. Yes, Needkarma, she can do what she wants and I have largely ignored her. Yet there are two sides to this coin of freedom--I have the right to make disparaging comments about her on the internet. So neener neener neener. :P-~~~

Seriously though, I can't help but think that if her son is watching this somewhere, that he's embarrassed. After all, he DID choose to join the military.

I don't object to her opinions. I object to how she expresses them.

startover22
May 29, 2007, 12:05 PM
I don't think I could have said it better beezie.

steviebeezie
May 29, 2007, 12:05 PM
Furthermore, how f----d up is it to ruin someone's last goodbye to their children? You want to protest in front of Walker Ranch, or the White House, fine. But to go and interrupt a parent's grieving? Come on! How would she have liked it if we had done it at HER son's funeral?

shygrneyzs
May 29, 2007, 12:11 PM
I just saw Cindy Sheehan last night on television. She was accepted by the Democratic Party as long as she protested within their guidelines. Now who will take her in?

She reminds me of the '60's protesters. They also could point out all the bad and yet not provide a viable solution. Sad. Yet, it is her right to protest. We live where that is accepted and expected and protected. In another country, she would have been locked up.

startover22
May 29, 2007, 12:13 PM
She would not have liked it. This is whatI think, I think she took this whole thing way over the edge and then felt like it was too late to back out. I honestly hope she really isn't this crazed, insane, stupid woman. I really do hope that when she does finally get to see her son, that he will forgive her and she can come to grips with herself in peace and quiet...

tomder55
May 30, 2007, 03:46 AM
a) That "translation" is a total attack job - are you gys too blind to see that?

b) call me when you lose a son in a pathetic 'war'.


a) yes it is and so is the content of her resignation letter

She is not just another Gold Star Mom who has lost a son and has an ax to grind . She long ago crossed the line from grieving mom who is anti-Iraq war to propagandist tool of anti-American groups that have used her for their purposes.

Over the weekend Hugo Chavez put the final nail in Venezuelan freedom.

But January last year Sheehad was one of the stars of a six-day World Social Forum held in Caracas . She stood on the stage hugging that dictator. She thanked Chavez for “supporting life and peace.” She said that she was impressed by his sincerity.She said Venezuela’s foreign ministry sponsored her visit. When it comes to questioning someone's patriotism I don't do it lightly . But Sheehad crossed the line a long time ago. After the meeting; on HARDBALL , she plainly stated she'd rather live under the rule of thug Chavez than under President Bush .

She became a pawn of far left extremist special interest . This whole anti-war thing was just a gig for pay for her . She admitted in her resignation letter that when she started to say things against Evita Clinton that the money pool dried up .

Wikipedia describes a "useful idiot " to describe Soviet sympathizers in western countries (particularly in the United States) and the alleged attitude of the Soviet government towards them. The implication was that the person in question was naïve, foolish, or in willful denial, and was being cynically used by the Soviet Union, or another Communist state.The term is now used more broadly to describe someone who is perceived to be manipulated by political movement, terrorist group, or hostile government, whether the group is Communist in nature. It also is a fitting description of Cindy Sheehad .

b) I do not understand this comment. Do you suggest that only people who have lost a loved one in a conflict is qualified to have an opinion of the conflict ? Or are you saying that because she has lost a loved one she should be given a pass on any position she takes ?

startover22
May 30, 2007, 09:23 AM
I am sick by her very existence! Poor woman!

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 09:27 AM
Funny, I feel the same about you.

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 09:37 AM
What's wrong? Does it bother you when someone says that about you?

startover22
May 30, 2007, 09:42 AM
Well, I guess it does bother me a bit. If you have a fit reason it might be easier to think someone doesn't like you. It is OK to believe in different things. Sorry Karma, I am not getting your point and if you are feeling strongly toward me, start your own post and don't get in the middle of one you aren't really commenting on.

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 09:48 AM
My point is that you at worst a hypocrite (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because you come off so high and mighty yet have no problem spewing venom at someone; at best you have a case of keyboard courage (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=keyboard+courage).

When the same words are said to you you are offended, yet it's OK for you to say them to others.

startover22
May 30, 2007, 09:57 AM
Yes, you are right I did start here high and mighty, I give you that for sure. Then I started to think a little harder about what I was actually saying and doing. Keyboard courage is a wonderful way to put it. Have you been following me? It is not that I was really offended, it was that I was confused as to what you were actually tried to get across to me. That is called "beating around the bush" Just a few months of being on this site, I have calmed down quite a bit. There are still things that I honestly just can't bear to agree with, so I do post a little harsh. So do you, I have read a lot of your posts. Why are you going to pin point me? There are many people out there that were posting right along with me and I don't see you ATTACKING them. I have admitted to sitting on a high horse and feeling bad in the end for it, before you ever came along. I hope this is a good enouh explanation for you to move on now! Not that I think you deserve it, I just wanted to talk about how Cindy Sheehan and her bullcrap! Not you and yours.

startover22
May 30, 2007, 10:58 AM
So as I was saying, Cindy has disgraced her family and her friends. I haven't seen anyone stick to her side except for maybe the maggots feeding on her flesh just to be on camera and get attention! Just because you disagree doesn't mean we aren't interested in your views Karma. She is wrong wrong wrong, there is something that is in every one of us to tell us what is right and wrong, she doesn't have it!

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 11:05 AM
You because you say it's wrong doesn't make it so.

startover22
May 30, 2007, 11:07 AM
Ok, Karma, is it right? Beating around the bush shows peoples true character. Let's just say what we mean, OK?

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 11:11 AM
She has her right to go about her business if she feels wronged and she does feel wronged. You love to put words into her mouth and try to label the situation black or white. Sounds like fundamentalist dogma. How is she affecting your life?

startover22
May 30, 2007, 11:20 AM
You still haven't answered whether you think it is right or wrong. You just want you freedom of speech! By what people say and do and the choices they make, can affect a huge part of other peoples lives. My hole "man" part of the family has served, (grandpas, dads, brothers, except for one of them out of three) I honestly just think that you can definitely make a difference by going on TV because face it we all watch to see what will happen next. I know, I know we have a choice to turn it off, and I guess if more people did that then it might not be so bad. My point being why can't we use these recourses like the media to do better things than to slander our whole country? You want to answer my question now? Is it right? I am only speaking my opinion, and I am NOT trying to change yours. I have noticed in the past that you quit posts when someone is not going to agree with you. You never know, you might want to stay around and give your view, I sure learned from it. Thanks, you have a lot of good things to say.

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 11:27 AM
My answer? I don't care what she does, it doesn't affect my world. I don't categorize everything as right or wrong; black or white. I have no hatred for her as you do.

As for you saying that I have a history of quitting posts when someone is not going to agree with me: I couldn't care less. I'm not here to make friends, I have a real world for that.

Edit to add: sometimes I'm not onlione because I'm either a) playing with my kids b) having meals c) working d) doing stuff around the house e) hanging out with my wife f) anything else but being here 24/7

startover22
May 30, 2007, 11:34 AM
Wow! No answere yet? Right or wrong? Are you kidding me you don't know if she is right or wrong? Yeah it is sad she lost her son. Really sad! She went way over board with her anger and we will only take it for so long. I get the feeling that if you were living in the United States, you might feel as though she hurt you too. I am proud to live here and if she isn't then she should leave and go to Canada where she can get a little more support from you. See you around.

startover22
May 30, 2007, 11:36 AM
By the way I think you have made some really great friends, they are good people that you have met and talked with this whole time. Give me a break. "your real world" is right here! And honestly you have given some great advice and some good conversation and the people you meet along the way, are REAL!

NeedKarma
May 30, 2007, 11:42 AM
I guess that's just me - I've always made a distinction between anonymous internet discussion boards and the "live" people I interact with in my city.

startover22
May 30, 2007, 11:46 AM
Well, have fun being you! Cause I don't have a problem with that, only you seem to! Of course there is a distinction, but we are still real people. Where is your "grey" now?


Just because it says I am online, doesn't mean I am sitting here the hole day. I am doing the same things, I just never take the time to log out. WOW you were trying to say what?

Greg Quinn
May 31, 2007, 01:25 AM
Ladies ladies. Lol, Cheer up it's a new day.

NeedKarma
May 31, 2007, 07:37 AM
Startover,

I wanted to mention to you that my post #16 in this thread was not intended as a personal comment on how I feel about you. It was shock therapy I guess. I just don't want anyone to think that you're that kind of person (you're not) or that I'm that kind of person either (I am not). You seem like a cool, caring lady. I'm sorry I decided to be a little harsh.

Hugs all 'round.

:-)

startover22
May 31, 2007, 07:43 AM
I understand. I have always thought you had the skills. (I love saying that) I was trying to watch my mouth, I though we had a nice conversation! Have a good day, I guess this Cindy thing is over, huh?

Greg Quinn
May 31, 2007, 07:56 AM
You guy's are so funny! Coffee all around... Its on me. Do they accept keyboard cash here?

startover22
May 31, 2007, 07:59 AM
Yes, If you send it to me I will make sure they get it! Hahaha

Greg Quinn
May 31, 2007, 08:10 AM
The check is already in the mail, it's addressed to "startover22
Senior Member
Oregon Michigan
Posts 687

I hope I got the zip code right.

startover22
May 31, 2007, 08:22 AM
Holy crap I had to double check, I am a senior member. What does that mean? Do I have any special rights? Can I make people see things the way I see them now? Do I get something? Thanks for the check and yes you got the Zip code right. But I live in the state of Oregon! Thanks for the coffee!

Allheart
May 31, 2007, 08:30 AM
Woo Hoo Congrats there Start!!

http://www.aglobalworld.com/pd/images/Congratulations3.gif

LOL and yes, now we all must see things through your eyes. :)

startover22
May 31, 2007, 08:51 AM
Well look at us now, do you see what a cup of coffee can do? Love it, just love it.

Greg Quinn
May 31, 2007, 09:11 AM
Laugh out loud! Honestly made my day, I'm so easily amused. :D , have a great day you guy's, I know I will.