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halfpint27
May 17, 2007, 02:27 PM
in gen. it says god gave us all the green herbs and it says it in afew other placces it also says the week use herbs alought of people tell me that weed is a herb and senses and it talks about in the bible and it grows naturley that it's not a sin that god don't mind you using it what do you think I want other peoples appions/?

soccerman22
May 17, 2007, 02:32 PM
I think using weed is a sin regardless. It is still bad even if its written in the bible.

shygrneyzs
May 17, 2007, 02:41 PM
Marijuana in the Bible? Some people will use any excuse to smoke pot. If I were to indulge in pot, I would not thump the Bible and say here it is written I can do this. Christ also said people were to obey the law.

But since you asked, check these sites out. You would like the first two.

Marijuana and the Bible (http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible.htm)

Marijuana and the Bible by The Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church (http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/potbible.htm)

What does the Bible say about using marijuana or pot? - at BibleStudy.org (http://www.biblestudy.org/question/pot.html)

Drugs and the Bible: E, Shrooms, Cocaine, Crack, Marijuana (http://www.bible.ca/s-marijuana.htm)

Remember that although you might find something in the Bible to anchor your stand on pot, you may be taking that totally out of context.

Fr_Chuck
May 17, 2007, 04:23 PM
Hello, as a herb like BASIL, or Oregeno, Parsily, but the term herb is not a proper name for pot, that is like calling tobacca a herb, you want some on your dinner tonight??

Herb in regard to pot is a very new street slang name and has no real bearing on the actual proper name of POT.

And it is a sin for sure in the US, because it is illegal, and as Christians we are to folllow lawful orders of our Governemnt

People love to twist and lie about the bible, but they only fool thierself

Clean
May 17, 2007, 05:02 PM
Hello, first of all, I wouldn't be using the term "marijuana", it is a term with racist beginnings in the early days of cannibis prohibition,ssociating it with early 20th century immigrant laborers, when in actuality it was the celebrities and such who were th users as well as the infirm. I would use the words cannibis, cannibis sativa, weed, or pot in describing this plant species.
As much as I support obeying the law, I feel ignorance should be conquered when possible so I offer a few facts so as not to evilize what may be just disinformation.
As a plant, it is highly resistant to drought and grows well in depleted soil, this is useful for doctoring land when needed to bring nutrient levels up, as well as for fire recovery and watershed prtection due to extremely fast growth rate.
It is stronger then flax, has been carefully cultivated for over 4000 years to produce the strongest rope available to humans. In the civil war, soldiers would become addicted to morphine, this was called soldiers disease. Wounded using cannibis could tolerate pain, avoiding morphine altogether.
All this shows that profit-driven industry has much in conflict with this plant, from the use of synthetics today that can be patented for immense profit, such as nylon, rather than the use of natural materials that can NOT be patented as intellectual property.
And look at the massive amount of money being made form alcohol and tobacco, which cannibis would be a resonable detour from, and insure increased peace among people.
ANd most important of all, cetain varieties can be grown without the mild hallucinogen of the flowering buds, thereby insuring compliance with the law and still retaining the usefulness of the plant. So one would intelligently think...
A book called the Emperor Wear's No Clothes seems to have more accuate info then those other sites.
P.S. It could be considered a herb because of the many possible EXTRACTS that can be made using cannibis, that I'm sure many of the ancient peoples knew about.
No, I do not use it for getting hi

Fr_Chuck
May 17, 2007, 05:12 PM
OK, if we did away with every word ( that today has nothing to do with racism) we would lose a major part of our words. That is of course its name and there is nothing wrong with its usage, and to be honest people that look for racism in all things are really a major problem in our society

And the issues was not the US history of the drug, but the bibical reference of if.

thetruth420
Oct 18, 2007, 08:05 AM
Christ also said people were to obey the law.

I'm pretty sure he meant his laws i.e. the 10 comandments, if we all used the cannabis herb there would be world peace, but guess what's preventing that.. politicians, yea most of them go to church but, if they were really religious they wouldn't even think about war because what happens at the end of the bible... in many other words... world war 3, what happens after that... the end... so I'm not really so sure christ would want us to follow laws that would actually make this happen... but its bound to happen because mankind(not all of it but most) are materialistic they need their high dollar clothes, and oil to power big suv's, all that cost money, wars are started over money and oil.. so I think he meant to follow the ten comandments till the end comes and all the people that do, get to pass into heaven... what does this have to do with herb in the bible?. its there you just have to read.. it says he rejected the old wine(alcohal) and embraced the new wine(cannibus)... so smoke a pipe and have a communion with christ... he's on his way better get close to him now if you never have before... I know this post is old as fermented bourbon but I thought id throw my 2 pennies in

N0help4u
Oct 18, 2007, 08:50 AM
Just like anything, else some things are used for good and some for bad.
Just because something is natural doesn't mean it is good for you.
Staff infection is caused by natural bacteria.
I saw on Unsolved Mysteries or some show that a guy took a how to survive in the
Wilderness and took off to Alaska to "live off the land" and the book told him to seep a plant for nutrition. He did that and not knowing he had to cut off a certain part and he died because it totally blocked up his digestive system from working at all.
Also the Bible says that you are to be in your right mind not in a drunk/altered state. I can look up the whole teaching on it if you want. The main verses are something like the Greek word for pharmacutica.

thetruth420
Oct 18, 2007, 03:40 PM
Yea but cannibis has been smoked and or used in various forms throughout history, its legal in other countrys, the only reason its not legal here is because it would cost too much to legalize just one "drug" when the other more harmful(man made) drugs i.e. perscription type, people die everyday from overdoses and its not their fault the docter perscribed too much, then you got your crack/meth some stupid person made these drugs.. possibly the devil himself... all I'm saying is... nobody has died from cannibis maybe some muchies, I know people that have smoked cannibis for 25+ years and they still make good judgements, they're really good people.. cannibis will continue to be used no matter what manmade law there may be for it...

RustyFairmount
Oct 18, 2007, 05:56 PM
In addition to what Fr. Chuck said, you need to remember that your body is a gift from God. If you knowingly choose to hurt your body, the wonderful gift that God gave you, then you are sinning. Excessive alcohol consumption irreversibly damages the liver and brain. Likewise, marijuana harms your lungs, brain, and reproductive potency. Tobacco also is harmful.

Therefore, consuming these substances for pleasure is a sin.

You might say: C'mon. How can smoking cigarettes be a sin? The answer: Because it is. I don't make the rules. I just try my best (often failing) to obey them.

thetruth420
Oct 18, 2007, 06:26 PM
Then why are cancer patients giving cannibis if requested hmmmm... you guys say its not in the bible, but yet it's a common MEDICINE for cancer patients, its been used in various Healing rituals by our ancestors... I guarantee the candy bar you ate or the soda you drank today will create more harm then sparkin up a dooby...

N0help4u
Oct 18, 2007, 09:15 PM
You can make all the excuses you want it doesn't make it right or okay.

Merinol is the prescription form of weed and to be used in moderation for medicinal reasons. Using that as an excuse is like saying then you should be able to take the same medicine your grandmother takes for her cancer. It is an apple/orange comparison that doesn't justify anything.

Like I said the Bible DOES speak against using mind altering substances.
You said you know a lot of really good people that smoke weed, I know a lot of alcoholics that I can say the same about. Again comparing apples/oranges because it is not
Keeping your body as the temple of God and so forth.
The Bible also says to obey the laws of the land and it is illegal.

N0help4u
Dec 31, 2007, 08:25 PM
The Bible also says not to do mind altering things.
God gave us a lot of things that doesn't mean we are suppose to smoke everything he gave us.

mseik
Jan 2, 2008, 12:05 PM
then why are cancer patients givin cannibis if requested hmmmm...... you guys say its not in the bible, but yet its a common MEDICINE for cancer patients, its been used in various Healing rituals by our ancestors... i guarantee the candy bar u ate or the soda u drank today will create more harm then sparkin up a dooby...

Cancer patients are not given cannabis if requested, they're prescribed specific, highly-controlled doses of a cannabinoid if the treating Oncologist feels it's warranted, and if the patient has no history of substance abuse. (And it isn't prescribed in joint, blunt, or dude it's 4:20 form.)

People who are in denial about their own substance abuse are very creative about creating justifications for that use. Unfortunately, none of the so-called reasons are based in anything other than that person's desire to justify a fallacy.

simoneaugie
Jan 3, 2008, 05:49 AM
It all becomes simple when you realize that there is no right or wrong. The Creator made us and all the plants. Some of those plants are called (by us) herbs or herbacious shrubs. I think that Goddess/God wants us to become who we really are. Men write rules, God lives free of rules, God is love and we are created in that image.

N0help4u
Jan 3, 2008, 07:12 AM
It all becomes simple when you realize that there is no right or wrong. The Creator made us and all the plants. Some of those plants are called (by us) herbs or herbacious shrubs. I think that Goddess/God wants us to become who we really are. Men write rules, God lives free of rules, God is love and we are created in that image.

That type of 'free' (no rules) results in chaos and enslaved.
Many plants are poisonous. That shows right there that 'all the plants' were NOT MEANT to be ingested.
Man writes rules because he knows man kills man and commits unjust acts AGAINST man and God.
Also God DID make rules. He says treat your body as a temple and keep it pure from 'unclean' things.
Kim Medlin (http://www.vaccinetruth.org/kim_medlin.htm)

Jesus Christ, Our Great God & Savior - Does the Bible Talk About Drugs? (http://truthsaves.org/living/drugs.shtml)

margar
Jan 14, 2008, 08:47 AM
We have biblical laws and laws of our country has put in place. We should try to live by both. I have broken laws on each level, just like all of us. Kind of puts us in the same boat doesn't it? God knows our human traits. I guess, I feel it comes down to how I want to live my life, do I want it to please god? Does smoking weed glorify god? As far as the last days, I feel we are living in them right now. Have you ever read revelations? It explains thoroughly how the end of the world will be. A major war in the middle east, where the blood will flow as deep and the horses bridle. Scary isn't it , not to taken lightly. Enough said... I posted but want to edit. I like the response re using some of these shrub for medicinal purposes.. probably what god had in mind, do you suppose. Not just so some guy can go out and get high.

simoneaugie
Jan 14, 2008, 09:15 AM
God created all plants so we could try them, even the poisonous ones. Man created laws. It is illegal in my state to have sex with a virgin. If death were not viewed as a punishment, if we lived without knowledge of good and evil, weed would not be a subject of controversy.

nickiann
Jan 21, 2008, 03:03 PM
in gen. it says god gave us all the green herbs and it says it in afew other placces it also says the week use herbs alought of people tell me that weed is a herb and sences and it talks about in the bible and it grows naturley that it's not a sin that god dont mind you using it what do you think i want other peoples appions/?
It's definitely natural and I'm sure god doesn't mind if your puffing the cheeba as long as you are responsible and hold down a job.

$@))))

margar
Jan 24, 2008, 09:18 AM
May I direct you to a scripture. This is what god says not me... proverbs 16:25 there is a way that seems right to man, but the end is the way of death... we can believe what we like but if it isn't in line with gods word, we are wrong...
The blind shall lead the blind

simoneaugie
Jan 24, 2008, 04:18 PM
We are wrong? If God really picked up a pen and wrote the bible, why has is not ended war and poverty? All this fighting regarding what is relative, where has it gotten us? God, or whatever you name it, made us perfect. "Sinning" and dying does not change that. Why don't we come back and talk to each other about death? Perhaps being dead is the loss of this realm of relativity? What a relief.

Pot smokers smoke on. I'm going to ask myself what makes my life worthwhile in the midst of all the relativity. I'm going to go with what I find. Maybe that's too free for some. It is what my heart tells me when I listen.

savedsmoker420
Jul 30, 2008, 12:51 PM
There is also a vesre where jesus says its not what goes in to a mans body that defiles him but what comes out... how about the not judging others or by how you judge others you also will be judged.. I've read the whole new testament from mathew to revelations. . It also says if you feel OK with what you are doing its OK but if you are doing something you are ashamed of then it becomes sin... you also have to remember all who wrote the bible were some of the worst sinners... I challenge those who say its wrong to read the whole bible and not just parts that fit your argument.. p.s. try this one. If you love the world( follow mans laws included) then you hate god because the god of this world is satan.. read it and you'll see ill post again soon after I jot down these verses and then you can read them and ill include the whole verse not with these (... ) then a word or two then some more(... ) these (... ) mean you leaving stuff out that will discredit your argument... amen

spyderglass
Sep 20, 2008, 02:42 PM
If anything comes between you and God
Then yes it is a sin
If marijuana is more important to you in any way
Then you probably have some praying to do

thecanman3032
Nov 30, 2008, 09:20 AM
first off I like to congradulate those of you have knoledge of cannabis, and understand how harmless and good for the world it is, most what I'm about to says go out to all the hipocritical ignorant betheren of mine who are dumb and close minded.

some have good answers. But most of you are not only ignorant but difying lord god, I mean what the , all bu aside "every creature of God [is] good, and nothing [is] to be rejected, with thanksgiving being received,
for it is sanctified through the word of God and intercession. 1 timothy 4:4-5

there you go the only thing wrong with smoking weed is not doing and adknowledging
god for his creation and giving thanks to him, that is the only constraint god places upon weed it increases health no one has ever died from weed it does not cause disease the human body was and is physically designed to recept thc and all other cannabloids so shut the up, nothing is at all wrong with smoking it, as long as you give thanks. The end any of you who call you selves followers of christ and then dify him are bad ministers of the word of god. It says so in the following verses of 1 timothy.

some one find a verse as I have shown you that difys the smoking of weed for it is a renowd plant god made for the healing of the nations. If men who abused alcohol replaced it with weed they would live greater and more fullfilling lives, and the last thing I will say most people who call themselves christians who drink alcohol and frown upon weed are "mother ing ignorent hipocrits" please excuse the language, back to what I was saying it states over and over in 6 place that I've found by random searchs through the bible that god creates only good but the inventions of men have flaws as well as speaking of the evil that follows alcohol.

so what's have you learned if your not blinded by hipocracy is that weed is good god created weed therefore there is nothing wrong with it, I hopefully gotten through to at least one person.
and I give thanks to those of you who understand cannabis and why its renownd, god loves all, good luck and took up.

thecanman3032
Nov 30, 2008, 09:42 AM
You can make all the excuses you want it doesn't make it right or okay.

Merinol is the prescription form of weed and to be used in moderation for medicinal reasons. Using that as an excuse is like saying then you should be able to take the same medicine your grandmother takes for her cancer. It is an apple/orange comparison that doesn't justify anything.

Like I said the Bible DOES speak against using mind altering substances.
You said you know a lot of really good people that smoke weed, I know a lot of alcoholics that I can say the same about. Again comparing apples/oranges because it is not
keeping your body as the temple of God and so forth.
The Bible also says to obey the laws of the land and it is illegal.
"every creature of God [is] good, and nothing [is] to be rejected, with thanksgiving being received,
For it is sanctified through the word of God and intercession. 1 timothy 4:4-5

There you go the only thing wrong with smoking weed is not adknowledging
God for his creation and giving thanks to him, that is the only constraint god places upon weed it increases health no one has ever died from weed it does not cause disease the human body was and is physically designed to recept thc and all other cannabloids so shut the up, nothing is at all wrong with smoking it, as long as you give thanks. The end any of you who call you selves followers of christ and then dify him are bad ministers of the word of god. It says so in the following verses of 1 timothy.
Apples/ oranges are you obsurd come on a prescrition meds are dangerous and ten fold worse then cannabis that's a truthe a reality a fact, god created one thing man created the other so hmmm lets see its not an apples /oranges its god/ man comparison enough said. Godly creations are flawless crations of man are gaping with flaws. Spead these words they are truth,

margar
Nov 30, 2008, 04:34 PM
I am not wasting my time trying to read your bad spelling, perhaps a by-product of the hallucigen you are smoking. Guess, we'll have to see what God, that is God, will say about it when you stand in front of Him at the last judgment. We all will some day at His discretion. Don't post any more responses about this. I can see it is pointless.

carmen44
Dec 1, 2008, 03:29 PM
That's completely an opinion rather God said it would be okay to smoke or not, because the bible doesn't say FOR SURE... but if you feel wrong doing it and have to ask it probably is wrong... or do you just feel wrong because you know the girls from L.C.J would kick your butt HEATHER...

thecanman3032
Dec 3, 2008, 08:43 PM
No, no you don't under stand my main point the bible does mention cannabis it is the main ingediant in holy oil god says all things he created are good, I do admitt that second to last post was little questionable but it is is fact gods says nothing should rejected in first timothy it says that people will speak hipocracy about thing such as cannabis in later times as well a saying that will happen when people abstain from marriage so I adknoledge that as being now when things he created espesally cannabis and marriage are being abused / torn apart, and like I said in the second post cannabis is great for you has numerous renown uses/ properties and something of god should be knocked in with human inventions such as prescribed meds because they do more bad than good I ask you to do some research before saying its bad I have a very large knoledge when it comes to cannabis, so I'm not making any thing up I've stated facts plus scripture, try and understand. After it talks about people astaining from gods creations it say that those of us christians that acknoledge the truth are good ministants of the word of god I read the bible every day god has put on myheart to share this so I'm not justifying stoners jes what gods says.

liz28
Dec 4, 2008, 06:38 AM
I never knew the bible mention anything about weed, this is my first time hearing this in my 28 years of being on this earth.

KBC
Dec 10, 2008, 03:35 PM
This is about the most DEAD post I have come across!!

This should be in it's own post,not on someone else's question.

N0help4u
Dec 10, 2008, 04:37 PM
"every creature of God [is] good, and nothing [is] to be rejected, with thanksgiving being received,
for it is sanctified through the word of God and intercession. 1 timothy 4:4-5

there you go the only thing wrong with smoking weed is not adknowledging
god for his creation and giving thanks to him, that is the only constraint god places apon weed it increases health no one has ever died from weed it does not cause disease the human body was and is physically designed to recept thc and all other cannabloids so shut the up, nothing is at all wrong with smoking it, as long as you give thanks. the end any of you who call you selves followers of christ and then dify him are bad ministers of the word of god. it says so in the following verses of 1 timothy.
apples/ oranges are you obsurd come on a prescrition meds are dangerous and ten fold worse then cannabis thats a truthe a reality a fact, god created one thing man created the other so hmmm lets see its not an apples /oranges its god/ man comparison enough said. godly creations are flawless crations of man are gaping with flaws. spead these words they are truth,

So why not smoke poisonous plants that can kill you?
There you go

Now how in the world do you figure apples and oranges are worse than weed?

NewlySaved
Dec 11, 2008, 07:19 PM
I am 19 years old, been smoking weed since 15. I had a lot of great times using.But there was this cloud in my heart.A heart that wasn't sure. But then I started dating this girl who put me on the path toward god. And for a while I sort of blew it off. But then today December 11, 2008 I let Jesus into my heart and it felt so good. But then I started thinking... what about smoking and drinking. So I read a few other answers and than I asked my mom for one. And she said indulgence as long as you don't let smoking and drinking get in the way of your relationship with god than you should be just fine... and I agree. Moderation

WorldOJakeKraft
Feb 5, 2009, 04:40 PM
yes, moderation. You can't obey every law of the land, because in Comunist countries, which usually forbid worship contradictict God's law. Look, this weed thing, its another prohohibition like in the 20's. People were probably real pissed that people wanted to drink alcohol. Every sin is punnishable by death, look, even if it was a sin just to smoke a doobie, whenever you go to a restaurant with your friends and eat and leave and say holy I'm full I feel sick, well you've just committed a sin. Heard of gluttony? Food can be a sin if you eat too much. Have fun in hell.

thecanman3032
Feb 21, 2009, 02:28 PM
Wow this poste is old. Well I wasn't comparing weed with apples or oranges I was saying that it was a dumb comparison, and if look at the bible in a few places it shows you that not just weed is permitted/encoraged by god, and as for moderation that has more to do with alcohol, and no you can't compare alcohol and weed, humans made alcohol, god made weed, its all about where you heart is at, a non christian getting high of his then saying in his defince that god made is a dumb and is commmitting a sin, and when a man or woman of god says that the use of weed is evil is quite literly committing blastfemy, I'm sure god didn't did not intend for us to smoke weed but that's why there are many other more effient ways to use like in tea, as an ointment, and in food, using a vaporizer.

wittedavid
Dec 3, 2011, 05:43 AM
I smoked weed for quite a while (and wish I didn't) and in my opinion it should not be used. One of the reasons is that it makes you very lazy and God does not want people to be lazy. Do a Google search on what the bible says about lazy people.

Clean
Dec 17, 2011, 04:29 PM
It's medicine that has been shown to help with killing off cancer. Since when is medicine supposed to be completely side-effect free?
High horses people, high horses.

codysnessarose
May 21, 2012, 10:09 AM
: Romans 13:1-7 states, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”