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-radioactive-
Apr 22, 2007, 08:14 PM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
And I want to know what your opinion is.

tombb25
Apr 22, 2007, 08:26 PM
To accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, period.

-radioactive-
Apr 22, 2007, 08:28 PM
Haha that's what I think to
But so many churches are like "do this and do that THEN you'll become a christian"

Barrabas
Apr 22, 2007, 08:45 PM
It would be best to start with the Bible, read through it and it gives you a background and foundation as to what Christianity is all about...

Fr_Chuck
Apr 22, 2007, 09:15 PM
You know all ( well almost all) all ask the same thing ( besides your check)

1. Accept and/or believe in Jesus Christ as your savor

2. Be baptised

3. Ask forgiveness

** no certain order posted. Now some want you baptised like this or that, and some demand you are baptised in their denomination to beong to their church, but in general most hold these as what it takes to be a Christian.

-radioactive-
Apr 22, 2007, 09:21 PM
How Come You Have To Be Baptised To Be Christian?
Will Jesus Not Love You If You Are Not Baptised?
Will He Put You In Hell Because Of It?

chaplain john
Apr 22, 2007, 10:51 PM
Fr Chuck is correct #1 & #3 and I don't mean to argue with his post just add to it. Not all Christian churches absolutely require water baptism then again some say it is absolutely necessary and entry to Heaven depends upon it. The arguments can rage on and on about the subject.

I believe, and I'm quoting the book of chaplain john chapter something verse something, that it may lie somewhere in between the two positions. Example Battlefield conversion a soldier in battle chooses to give his life to the Lord and minutes seconds or days later he is mortally wounded without benefit of water baptism. Will he make Heaven? I believe so because the main requirements have been met. He believed in Jesus as his Savior, repented and called upon his name.

Radioactive I think I may have answered your first question above.
In answer to your second question Jesus loves you regardless of and in spite of anything you have or will ever do. He died for you period.
Question 3 I believe is also covered above.

Baptism is a public testimony to the world that you have died to your old life or symbolically with Jesus. This is demonstrated when you are submerged under the water and when you arise from the water it celebrates your Resurrection to your new life “in Christ” (hence Born Again).

Others may choose to dispute what I have written but I have come to these conclusions through personal Bible study, Bible study under my college professors and under my Senior Pastor as well as reading the commentaries of a number of very learned men who have written over the last several hundred years to assure that I had not deviated in an extreme manner from accepted Protestant Theology.
I apologize for the html tags that are in this post ... I don't quite understand why they have showed up like this I didn't have them showing in previous posts. If someone can explan this problem to me I would certainly appreciate it

-radioactive-
Apr 23, 2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the answers but it still leaves me questioning a little.
I mean, I've been baptised and everything on my own freewill,
But after I was baptised I screwed up my life over again.
So does this mean that I lied when I baptised?
Can people baptise again?

Wangdoodle
Apr 23, 2007, 06:11 PM
If you truly believed when you were baptised, and the baptism was "valid". You would not need to be baptised again. Just repent of what ever your sins.

lfsxthnudie
Apr 23, 2007, 06:38 PM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
and I want to know what your opinion is.

A strong desire to be a member of a cult that likes to tell you how to live your life.

chaplain john
Apr 23, 2007, 08:25 PM
thanx for the answers but it still leaves me questioning a little.
i mean, i've been baptised and everything on my own freewill,
but after i was baptised i screwed up my life over again.
so does this mean that i lied when i baptised?
can people baptise again?

None of us are perfect and we 'fall-down-go-boom' :D all the time the thing to do is get up, dust yourself off and repent, apologize, or whatever you wish to call it and go on. Christians are not perfect we're just forgiven. As we go farther along in our Christian walk, just like a child learning to walk, we learn to be more steady on our feet and we fall less often but even adults can trip and fall occasionally.

As far as lying when you were baptized only you know the answer to that question.

Can you be baptized again? Yes, if you wish. I personally have been baptized four times... three times deliberately and once when I slipped and went under with the subject I was baptizing

Fr_Chuck
Apr 23, 2007, 08:44 PM
If we read the writttings of Paul we see that grace is an important part of Christianity, in that our sins are forgiven, and yes we all mess up.

Look at Peter, after being with Christ, walking with him, talking with him, he still denied Christ, ( we all often deny Christ by our actoins, even us preachers) Look at Peter again, he had the faith to step out with Christ and walk on the water, but all of a sudden he got fear and sank, how many of us walk firm and tall in our faith, but then fear allows us to sink, not in water but in sin,
And then look at not only Thomas, but all of the 11 at the time, after Christ had died on the Cross, they hid in fear, Thomas at least admitted he had doubts, Peter and none of them even believed the Marys when they told them Christ had risen, he just did not believe it was going to happen.

So we have plenty of examples to show up that we all far back, If you see and know your faults, ask God to forgive you and more on with your life, doing the good we can.

As for as being baptised again, no "legalistic" reason, not even a bibical reason, but I baptise a lot of people again, esp when I do it at a river or at a lake, a lot ofpeople who were never immersed or who just thinks it is neat to be baptised in a river will get baptised over.

Marily
Apr 24, 2007, 05:16 AM
I sure hope that this will clear up your questions. To be a christian does not end at the fact that you are now baptized. To be a christian is to deny yourself and take up your cross to follow Jesus on a daily basis, to live the life of Jesus. Jesus came to the earth, although He was king and still is He did not cling to His rights of a king but humble Himselfed, He was mocked, bruised and died in disgrace on the cross, He became us so that we might become Him. Anyone can read the bible even satan , but it takes the author of the bible to give revelation upon the contents and no one else.

DUKE-OF-URL
Apr 24, 2007, 05:40 AM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
and I want to know what your opinion is.
I believe the being a Christian is living your life as Christ like as you can.


haha that's what i think to
but so many churches are like "do this and do that THEN you'll become a christian"

Some denomination's require you to be living a righteous life to be a member.:confused:

A good one will except you as you are, and teach and guide you and when you grow in Christ you will automatically become more righteous

;)

-radioactive-
Apr 25, 2007, 07:53 AM
Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
and I love the people there, and the Word,
but when I go there, I feel like someone's always judging me =[

DUKE-OF-URL
Apr 25, 2007, 08:56 AM
Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
and i love the people there, and the Word,
but when i go there, i feel like someones always judging me =[

Is it you just feel they are judging you? A little paranoid? Hehe just joking

Some people are just like that... and there is never a perfect church there will always be someone you don't really like. But get over it Jesus loves you :D

chaplain john
Apr 25, 2007, 03:15 PM
I've found out that if I find a perfect church I don't want to go in because as soon as I enter the doors it's no longer a perfect church.

We're all imperfect and trying to get over it. If we work hard enough at it we'll make it, thanks to Jesus sacrifice. But don't expect to achieve perfection in this life.
Blessings

Wangdoodle
Apr 25, 2007, 04:36 PM
Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
and i love the people there, and the Word,
but when i go there, i feel like someones always judging me =[

If they are teaching the Word of God then that's the church for you. What the church is teaching is far more important than what some of the members may think of you.

pretty_in_pink
Apr 25, 2007, 10:56 PM
Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
and i love the people there, and the Word,
but when i go there, i feel like someones always judging me =[


:) Remember that it's your relationship with our Creator that matters and not what others will think.. By judging you, they commit their sins... I hope the scriptures below can enlighten you...

And by the way... I'm Roman Catholic since birth and proud of it!

God Bless :D

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
-John 8:7-10

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying " I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
-John 8:12


"Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. For others will treat you as you treat them.* Whatever measure you use in judging others, it will be used to measure how you are judged.And why worry about a speck in your friend's eye* when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying, `Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,' when you can't see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log from your own eye; then perhaps you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye."
- Matthew 7:1-5

-radioactive-
Apr 27, 2007, 09:15 AM
Thanks!
But just one last question.
How come there's like so many different kinds of churches?
i.e Christian Fellowship, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Activist, etc.

Wangdoodle
Apr 27, 2007, 04:54 PM
Well, that comes down to interpretation of the Bible. With each person interpreting it for themselves, you will have many different views. What all the differences are, well that would have to be a totally new discussion.

DUKE-OF-URL
Apr 27, 2007, 06:03 PM
thanks!
But just one last question.
How come there's like so many different kinds of churches?
i.e Christian Fellowship, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Activist, etc.

That's a tuff one I think I will let some one else go into that one deeper. I think and I may be wrong that some that think alike just get together and start there own fellowship then before you know it they have a church.

I personally am born again spirit filled I speak in togues and lay hands on the sick... so churches don't believe in speaking in togues but because I do it I can't very well say I don't believe in it.

Here is a site that compares christianity with other religions you may find something there just click on it good luck and God bless :)

Contender Ministries Apologetics, and Information for Christian Contenders (http://contenderministries.org)

gymnast6394
Apr 27, 2007, 06:06 PM
You have to have unconditional love for god. You need to know that no matter what he will always love you and what he is doing is best for you.

chaplain john
Apr 27, 2007, 09:40 PM
thats a tuff one I think i will let some one else go into that one deeper. I think and i may be wrong that some that think alike just get together and start there own fellowship then before you know it they have a church.

I personally am born again spirit filled I speak in togues and lay hands on the sick...so churches dont believe in speaking in togues but because I do it I can't very well say I dont believe in it.

here is a site that compares christianity with other religions you may find something there just click on it good luck and God bless :)

Contender Ministries Apologetics, and Information for Christian Contenders (http://contenderministries.org)

Duke you're a wise man... Tackling that one could take a lifetime and then not be finished. Suffice it to say "Let every man work out his own Salvation, with fear and trembling. (Emphasis added mine)

lfsxthnudie
Apr 30, 2007, 06:51 PM
A strong desire to be a member of a cult that likes to tell you how to live your life.
My goodness you Christians are testy... aren't you all supposed to be good and forgiving, etc. Oh, but that's right, only if people agree with you...

pretty_in_pink
Aug 6, 2007, 02:35 AM
thanks!
But just one last question.
How come there's like so many different kinds of churches?
i.e Christian Fellowship, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Activist, etc.

Maybe because of man's eartly desire to lead and man's pride that he knows better that the other makes them build church of their own based on their own belief and understanding of what they think they know... but basically, as long as you know you're worshipping God and praise Him and honor His works, we're on the same page...

The churches differ by ways of rituals, and beliefs...

Some do not Honor Virgin Mary and focuses on God alone or Jesus. Some do not honor the Holy Spirit...

I am a catholic and I, personally,honor the Blessed Virgin Mary, because for me, without the mother, how can a son be conceived, and if God had chosen Mary to be Christ's mother, who am I not to honor her... This has been my belief from the time I learned how to read and write, but if others do not agree with me, I DO NOT INTEND TO DEBATE.


Thanks and God Bless:)

pretty_in_pink
Aug 6, 2007, 02:40 AM
My goodness you Christians are testy... aren't you all supposed to be good and forgiving, etc.? Oh, but that's right, only if people agree with you...

if you're not a catholic or a christian then please, try not to say anything that misjudge others.

Catholicism's main goal is to be GOD-like, meaning we are HUMANS and we sin too just like others, but for us not to commit MORE sins and not to JUDGE others for the things that they do. And not to carry grudge and LEARN to forgive, LEARNING IS A PROCESS.

Just like any other, We, too were born sinners, and it is only in our journey as christians that we LEARN to forgive, because we're not gifted with the kind heart to forgive instantaneously... But why should we learn to forgive? Because Jesus should be in the heart, and if the heart is filled with anger, how do you think HE can fit in?

If others do not agree, I mean no disrespect. KNOWLEDGE is God's gift, if others have different point of view, by all means, I respect them. Because we're given also the FREEDOM to choose.

May the Holy Spirit be your guide in all the thing that you say and do.

God be the glory!

danny-zoe
Aug 6, 2007, 04:07 AM
To lead a righteous life, to love and respect everybody and to trust in God

Marily
Aug 6, 2007, 04:16 AM
I agree with you danny, we should lead a rightous life, I see you are new here , WELCOME ;)

motherof3
Aug 6, 2007, 10:28 AM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
and I want to know what your opinion is.
I have a friend who goes to church when she wakes up on time, has 3 children with a married man, tells me that jesus will forgive all sins (Murder, child molester, thief, etc). But preaches to me about not having gay friends because they are the devil, also should give 10% of my income to her church ( I am a single mother of 3 trying to pay bills). Is this what being christian is all about? ( should have started a new question I know)

Marily
Aug 6, 2007, 10:49 AM
Because everyone does not serve God the same way, some churches belief in the baptism of the Holy Ghost, others don't, in some churches you can take communion and still live a sinful life, in some you cant, but a true church of God will always like up with the Word of God.

alkalineangel
Aug 6, 2007, 11:00 AM
My goodness you Christians are testy... aren't you all supposed to be good and forgiving, etc.? Oh, but that's right, only if people agree with you...


There is a difference between being testy and responding to a blatantly rude and unrespectful comment. I am unitarian universalist, and I at leat respect their beliefs, even if I don't choose them for myself...


As for the OP, the reason there are so many different sects of chirstianity, In my opinion, is exactly as others have said... it has to do with the interpretation of the bible and of Christ's teachings. Each one may say that they are the "true" one, but My advice to you is find the one in which you feel like is most at home to you deep in your soul... that will be the right place for you. :) good luck.

mountain_man
Aug 6, 2007, 11:52 AM
I have a friend who goes to church when she wakes up on time, has 3 children with a married man, tells me that jesus will forgive all sins (Murder, child molester, thief, etc). But preaches to me about not having gay friends because they are the devil, also should give 10% of my income to her church ( I am a single mother of 3 trying to pay bills). Is this what being christian is all about? ( should of started a new question I know)

No, That is not the type of witness we want to be as Christians... Jesus will forgive your sins if you admit them and repent of them... also christians ARE judgmental (ie gay lifestyle) but should not be because it is not up to us to judge... regarding tithing that is an old testament (law) that someone give 10% but after Christ died the laws were abolished and we are now under a "new" system: GRACE... which doesn't require you to give; you should not give out of compulsion but what you feel led to do in your heart. And the answer to your question should be: LOVE that is what being a christian is all about. "LOVE the Lord God with all your hear, soul, mind, and strength AND Love your neighbor as yourself" Those are the two greatest commandments.

DUKE-OF-URL
Aug 6, 2007, 11:53 AM
thanks!
But just one last question.
How come there's like so many different kinds of churches?
i.e Christian Fellowship, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Activist, etc.

Because some people don't like the uncompromised word of God.

Some don't like that you must turn away from your sin so they find a church that says its OK just to love everyone or don't want to give up their perversions to the join a church that is tolerant to it.


Some think you get to Heaven by the good they do and not by grace .
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

So as I see it people ended up making their own religions so they wouldn't have to conform to the Bible's teaching.

Don't get me wrong they still use the Bible... they just ignore or even rewrite the parts that they don't like.

alkalineangel
Aug 6, 2007, 12:28 PM
Because some people dont like the uncompromised word of God.

Some dont like that you must turn away from your sin so they find a church that says its ok just to love everyone or dont want to give up their perversions to the join a church that is tolerant to it.


Some think you get to Heaven by the good they do and not by grace .
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

So as I see it people ended up making their own religions so they wouldnt have to conform to the Bible's teaching.

Don't get me wrong they still use the Bible ...they just ignore or even rewrite the parts that they dont like.

You can't say this for fact though. I mean, everyone has different opinions as to what they believe in and wish to have faith in. Who is to say who is right? You can not point at one religion and say they are the wrong ones, the unbelievers, any more than I can point at your religion and say so. What matters is that you have something you believe in. Something to put your faith into. It matters not whether we think the other is the wrong way to God... they believe it is the right way to theirs... and how can we judge them for that? God speaks to us all differently. Just because someone may do or interpret things differently than you would does not make them less likely to get to God... They may look at the way you do and interpret things and think the same thing... I think it is safe to say that most Christian based religions all have the same basic founding concepts. They just have different ways of following them.

speechlesstx
Aug 6, 2007, 01:24 PM
It's amazing how people can take something as simple as what does it take to be a Christian and come up with so many answers. The simple answer according to our standard is this:



KJV - Rom 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. -King James Version 1611, 1769

NKJV - Rom 10:9 - that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. -New King James Version © 1982 Thomas Nelson

NLT - Rom 10:9 - For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust

NIV - Rom 10:9 - That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society

ESV - Rom 10:9 - because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -The Holy Bible, English Standard Version © 2001 Crossway Bibles

NASB - Rom 10:9 - that if you confess with your mouth Jesus {as} Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; -New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation

RSV - Rom 10:9 - because, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Revised Standard Version © 1947, 1952.

ASV - Rom 10:9 - because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus [as] Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved: -American Standard Version 1901

Young - Rom 10:9 - that if thou mayest confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and mayest believe in thy heart that God did raise him out of the dead, thou shalt be saved, -Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898

Darby - Rom 10:9 - that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thine heart that God has raised him from among [the] dead, thou shalt be saved. -J.N.Darby Translation 1890

Webster - Rom 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. -Noah Webster Version 1833

HNV - Rom 10:9 - that if you will confess with your mouth the Lord Yeshua, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Hebrew Names Version 2000

And just for good measure:



Vulgate - Rom 10:9 - quia si confitearis in ore tuo Dominum Iesum et in corde tuo credideris quod Deus illum excitavit ex mortuis salvus eris. -Jerome's Latin Vulgate 405 A.D.

It seems the all say the same thing, believe in the living Jesus' sacrifice and confess Him as Lord. It's really not too complicated.

Steve

DUKE-OF-URL
Aug 6, 2007, 05:44 PM
You can't say this for fact though. I mean, everyone has different opinions as to what they believe in and wish to have faith in. Who is to say who is right? You can not point at one religion adn say they are the wrong ones, the unbelievers, any more than I can point at your religion and say so. What matters is that you have something you believe in. Something to put your faith into. It matters not whether we think the other is the wrong way to God...they believe it is the right way to theirs...and how can we judge them for that? God speaks to us all differently. just because someone may do or interpret things differently than you would does not make them less likely to get to God...They may look at the way you do and interpret things and think the same thing...I think it is safe to say that most Christian based religions all have the same basic founding concepts. they just have different ways of following them.

I can't say this for fact?

Your right people have their own opinion but as I said the reason is some don't like what the bible says.

Like this scripture,

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16)

The Bibles says who is right and if you don't believe that then your one who doesn't believe the whole bible and would probably go to a church that goes along with your thinking and does not follow scripture.

You say "God speaks to us all differently."... he does? So Gods word wasn't meant for you?

You say "I think it is safe to say that most Christian based religions all have the same basic founding concepts. they just have different ways of following them."... not true examine self proclaimed christian based religions.

Mormonism and JW claim to be Christian based.

Some don't believe in the resurrection some don't believe Jesus was God in the flesh.
Heck some think he was just a profit and others Lucifers brother.

In conclusion I think you just proved what I was saying some don't like parts of the Bible so they twist it till they like it.

alkalineangel
Aug 6, 2007, 07:11 PM
No you can't say for fact that they are the wrong ones, that they are twisting things... they may think that you are the wrong one and You are twisting things... who can say anything for fact?? I understand you, but there are people who interpret the bible differently (I don't like the word twist) What Im saying is there is no fact that what is written is true, you believe it is true. That is faith. You said that in a way though that sounded like because they interpret it differently than you, their way is wrong. No one can say that. Their way may be right, but you have faith in the way you interpret it, and that is fine... IM not trying to start anything IM just trying to say that there is no definite right or wrong. What is right for us is wrong for someone else... I have faith in my beliefs, and that is good enough for me... I don't need to worry about someone else. Its my salvation at stake..

You are using scripture to back up your evidence that scripture is right. Im not saying scripture isn't right, but there are people who think that scripture is not meant to be taken literally. They won't see it the same as you... that isn't twisting things, that is seeing things differently.

DUKE-OF-URL
Aug 7, 2007, 07:47 PM
no you can't say for fact that they are the wrong ones, that they are twisting things...they may think that you are the wrong one and You are twisting things...who can say anything for fact??? I understand you, but there are people who interpret the bible differently (I dont like the word twist) What Im saying is there is no fact that what is written is true, you believe it is true. That is faith. You said that in a way though that sounded like because they interpret it differently than you, their way is wrong. No one can say that. their way may be right, but you have faith in the way you interpret it, and that is fine... IM not trying to start anything IM just trying to say that there is no definate right or wrong. What is right for us is wrong for someone else...I have faith in my beliefs, and that is good enough for me...I dont need to worry about someone else. Its my salvation at stake..

You are using scripture to back up your evidence that scripture is right. Im not saying scripture isnt right, but there are people who think that scripture is not meant to be taken literally. they wont see it the same as you...that isn't twisting things, that is seeing things differently.

That's was my point in the first place to explain why there are so many different churches there are those interpret scripture differently so the go to a church that suits them.

Also you say..

"IM not trying to start anything IM just trying to say that there is no definite right or wrong. What is right for us is wrong for someone else...I have faith in my beliefs, and that is good enough for me...I dont need to worry about someone else. Its my salvation at stake.."

It seems you don't believe in absolute truths

In John Jesus says
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. "

Do you believe this to be true or do you think he didn't"t mean it?

I am not going to continue with this thread I think your ok We just differ on a few topics. I will finish with this scripture.

Matthew 7:13-14
13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

In Love and God bless
Duke

savedsinner7
Oct 8, 2007, 11:55 AM
Jesus said you must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your strength; and you must love your neighbor as yourself. He also said we are to obey Him, Matthew 7:21
[ True Disciples ] “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter.
Matthew 7:20-22 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)
To accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. period.

savedsinner7
Oct 8, 2007, 12:01 PM
Jesus said you must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your strength; and you must love your neighbor as yourself. He also said we are to obey Him, Matthew 7:21
[ True Disciples ] “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter.
Matthew 7:20-22 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)
To accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. period.

Romans 8
Life in the Spirit
1 So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. 2 And because you belong to him, the power[a] of the life-giving Spirit has freed you[b] from the power of sin that leads to death.26 And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. 27 And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers[l] in harmony with God’s own will. 28 And we know that God causes everything to work together[m] for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them. 29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.
Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
and i love the people there, and the Word,
but when i go there, i feel like someones always judging me =[

Does the Holy Spirit move in your church? Do you have the Presence of God? The Bible says that by their fruit they shall be known. Is your life different with Jesus? Do you live every day for Him or for yourself? This is the difference between a Sunday Christian and one who is sold out for Jesus. This is how we will know if we belong to Him, or if we have placed Him in the box with us. He is the Creator manifest in human form to come to save the world, to bring Truth to the people and to judge the world. By our testimonies (our lives) we will be known. If we live the same as those around us who do not know Him, we are perishing just the same as they are. By dying to the flesh (our desires and ideas) and choosing to allow the Holy Spirit access to every part of ourselves we will be changed. It is only by the Holy Spirit living in us that we can know we have salvation. Truth does not depend on what we believe. Truth was established before the universe was created and it is only by Truth that we will be set free from the chains that bind us.
You can't say this for fact though. I mean, everyone has different opinions as to what they believe in and wish to have faith in. Who is to say who is right? You can not point at one religion adn say they are the wrong ones, the unbelievers, any more than I can point at your religion and say so. What matters is that you have something you believe in. Something to put your faith into. It matters not whether we think the other is the wrong way to God...they believe it is the right way to theirs...and how can we judge them for that? God speaks to us all differently. just because someone may do or interpret things differently than you would does not make them less likely to get to God...They may look at the way you do and interpret things and think the same thing...I think it is safe to say that most Christian based religions all have the same basic founding concepts. they just have different ways of following them.

deist
Oct 8, 2007, 01:27 PM
It takes gullibility & naïveté to be a christian.

savedsinner7
Oct 8, 2007, 01:43 PM
It takes courage and strength to stand up to a culture that has rejected the LORD and to believe in Jesus when you are persecuted for believing.
It takes gullibility & naivete to be a christian.

fallen2grace
Oct 8, 2007, 06:20 PM
Yup

tatertot
Oct 17, 2007, 11:07 AM
To be come a true Christian you must be born again. To be born again you confess your sin and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and choose to follow him. YOu can be babtized but if not it doesn't mean you are not a Christain. Being a Christian is all about having a personal relationship with Christ.

superwario99
Oct 18, 2007, 02:19 AM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
and I want to know what your opinion is.
Don't become a christian, your going to regret it, take my word and be strong

superwario99
Oct 18, 2007, 02:21 AM
Exzactly, people make their own christian religion, it has been fabricated I'm only hear as a waurner

superwario99
Oct 18, 2007, 02:23 AM
Don't become corrupted since the church is corrupted, choose islam

labman
Oct 18, 2007, 01:45 PM
Dig up a copy of the Apostles' Creed. I think all Christians accept it. Unfortunately, we disagree on everything else, and sometimes to our shame, we have killed one another over the details. Could somebody give me a book, chapter and verse where Jesus raised his hand against another man?

MoonlitWaves
Oct 18, 2007, 03:46 PM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
So many churches say different things,
and I want to know what your opinion is.

I believe there is a difference in having the Christian beliefs and actually being a Christian. For example if I ask, what religion do your beliefs lie in? You answer Christian. That is having the same views, beliefs and agreeing with the Christian teachings. Doesn't necessarily make you a Christian, but someone who has the Christian beliefs.
To answer your question "What does it take to be a Christian?"
I think to actually "be" a Christian one not only believes the Christian teachings, but follows them. I think that when you are saved and begin your life's journey, trying to live as Christ did, you then become a Christian.
You will find that when people ask, "Are you a Christian?", most of the time they mean, "Are you saved?"

N0help4u
Oct 18, 2007, 08:26 PM
Having a growing desire to walk closer and closer with God and learn from life's lessons to do just that.

scottyv
May 6, 2008, 06:34 PM
I agree, except it is not a cult... it is a sect.

freeman4
Aug 8, 2013, 05:28 AM
Many individuals call themselves Christian, but what is it that makes one a “ True Christian”? Is it just accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and that is it? Is there more to it than that? I want to show what a true Christian really is and what God has to say about this.




First we need to go back to the beginning of all creation. When God made man and woman He put them in the Garden. God created man and woman for a purpose and that purpose was to have individuals who would eventually qualify for His coming World ruling Government. But our first parents really messed up.




Then Entered a being that was cast out of Heaven for trying to over throw God and take over everything from Him. He to was in the Garden and he caused all kinds of trouble for the first man and woman and that was the beginning of the down fall of man. The World got so wicked that God had to destroy it by Water and then started everything a new.




Laws were established for mankind to keep by God. He also had Statutes and Judgments that were to be observed as well. As in a past radio program I showed that the Law giver was the one who became Jesus Christ. Those He gave to be observed for ever, never to be done away with.




Let us go through those.





(Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)


1

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.


2



“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.


For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.


3



“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


4



“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter,


nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.


For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.


5







“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.


6



“You shall not murder.


7



“You shall not commit adultery.


8



“You shall not steal.


9



“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.


10



“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”





To be a true Christian one must adhere to these Laws, these 10 Commandments and keep them as is taught. The fourth Commandment is the test Commandment and it has been desecrated and been spit upon by many who call themselves Christian. The Seventh Day is God's true Sabbath day and has been walked on by the majority of the people who claim to be Christian. People in many Churches have not been taught the truth and when it is presented as I am doing now, they scorn and laugh and say, how dumb can he be.




When in reality they are the ones who are in the dark as to why they keep Sunday as the day of worship and not the 7 Th. Day Sabbath. People do not want to check for themselves to see if what they have been taught and observe may be Pagan in nature.No, individuals take for face value of what their Minister tells them never, checking to see if what they do is true..




What about all of the days that are observed by individuals such as Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentines day and many more? Do individuals not realize that they are pagan in nature and that they all came from Pagan Rome traditions? The truth is, they do not because again they never check to see for themselves if they are to be observed or why they are. This World is completely in the sway of Satan and in his control. This includes the Churches of today. God is the soul Creator and He expects His Laws and all His Statutes too be kept as he directed.

But Satan is the great counter fitter and he has counter fitted many Pagan days that claim to be of God.




Are these true character signs of God? The answer to that is an astounding “no”. Do you really know where the days such as Christmas and others started?It is the responsibility of an individual to check on the reality of those days before it is to late to do so and before one is caught in a very serious trap.




Notice

Leviticus 23 is best described as, and is often called, the “Holy Day Chapter.”









It contains a brief description of each of God’s seven annual Holy Days—also called Feasts or Sabbaths, which we will see are interchangeable terms throughout the chapter.

And I know how people say that they are only for the Jews. But do we have a God who would give certain days for one group of individuals to keep and then give another group another set of days to be kept. That would be a very confused God to say the least. No, God gave ALL days for ALL individuals.





Notice: Lev. 23:





“And the Lord spoke unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them,





Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations [commanded assemblies], even these are My feasts” (vs. 1-2).





Verse 3 -introduces the weekly Sabbath, Saturday, as one of God’s Feasts:

















“Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.”













Verse 4- introduces the rest of God’s Feasts: “These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which you shall proclaim in their seasons.”

Verse 5- reveals the first of God’s Feasts: “In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover.”

Next, we see that the seven Days of Unleavened Bread are introduced.





















On these days, beginning the day after the Passover, the Israelite's were required to eat unleavened bread: “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord:





seven days you must eat unleavened bread…in the seventh day is an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein” (vs. 6, 8). The first and seventh days are both Holy Days.

Verses 9-22 -gives a more detailed description of the next Feast Day, called First fruits— This day was observed in the late spring. Now read: “…it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.













What does forever mean. It does not mean a short while and then stop doing it? Forever from God means for Eternity.





To come to Pentecost God said you shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, This is not a weekly Sabbath but a High Day sabbath after Passover,





He said that seven Sabbaths' weekly Sabbaths shall be complete:










Verse 21- explains that the Feast of First fruits is a commanded assembly and that it to was ordained by God to be kept “forever”:


















And you shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you:
you shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.”


This passage includes a second emphasis by God about the permanent establishment of these days so that none can not misunderstand what “forever” means.


Notice that Israel was to keep these days “throughout your generations” (also repeated twice). There are still generations of Israel alive on earth today and are to observe all of these “forever”.





Yes, all of Gods Holy Days are to be observed today as commanded by God. But I hear people say, but we are not to keep those for they only for Israel. But I am going to tell you by the authority of God that we are to keep those Feast Days because we are part of the “Lost House Of Israel”. And only those to whom are called by God will understand and no other. God is only calling a very select few and only He will do the selecting of those individuals by opening their minds to His understanding. If you are being called you will be able to understand what is being said here. If one does not understand then they will not be part of the Elect of God because what is taught here has to be understood. I pray that God will open your mind to be able to see His truth because time is very shot.

Prophetic News for America! - "To Warn a Dying Nation". (http://www.americasfinaldaysprophecy.org)

N0help4u
Aug 8, 2013, 07:20 AM
Churches are Man made doctrine. The Bible warns against traditions of Man. Seek God with all your heart in spirit and truth.. God is about spirit not religion

classyT
Aug 8, 2013, 09:06 AM
Freeman,

What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT be saved. ( saved = Christian)

In Ephesians we are told that when we believed we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise.

The Law is what man can do for God. The Law demands from man.
Grace is what God has done for Man.
Grace supplies to man.

For by GRACE are you saved through faith, not of works ( law) lest any man should boast.

a Christian is a person who accepts Jesus as his savior by faith ALONE. He has the Holy Spirit living in him and little by little the Holy Spirit changes him to become more like our Lord Jesus Christ.

I am so glad I live this side of the cross and I am willing to let Jesus change me day by day. BECAUSE in my flesh dwells NO GOOD THING. I can't improve my flesh.. it is what it is. It must die. Unfortunately, you believe in improving something that God judged and punished in the body of Christ 2,000 years ago.

freeman4
Aug 8, 2013, 04:16 PM
Freeman,

What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT be saved. ( saved = Christian)

In Ephesians we are told that when we believed we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise.

The Law is what man can do for God. The Law demands from man.
Grace is what God has done for Man.
Grace supplies to man.

For by GRACE are you saved thru faith, not of works ( law) lest any man should boast.

a Christian is a person who accepts Jesus as his savior by faith ALONE. He has the Holy Spirit living in him and little by little the Holy Spirit changes him to become more like our Lord Jesus Christ.

I am so glad I live this side of the cross and I am willing to let Jesus change me day by day. BECAUSE in my flesh dwells NO GOOD THING. I can't improve my flesh..it is what it is. It must die. Unfortunately, you believe in improving something that God judged and punished in the body of Christ 2,000 years ago.

Why did Jesus say that there would be some that would be the " least" in the Kingdom of God. That would not qualify as others.

dwashbur
Aug 8, 2013, 06:48 PM
The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.

freeman4
Aug 9, 2013, 04:05 AM
The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.

You must really be sound asleep if you can not see our country falling apart at the seams. It does not take a rocket scientist to look around unless one is blinded by their own reasoning.

Warning after warning is given in scripture and as it states that warning is falling on deaf ears. That is what I see here. A shaking of this Nation is soon coming and many will be caught with their head in the sand.

Oh, but you say " God will handle this and nothing will happen". Well I can tell you that God is the one that is allowing this to be done and it being done to wake up a dying Nation.

Need I say more because you would not understand anyway.

I could give scripture after scripture but one would just say I made them up. The old saying goes, the proof in in the pudding, but no one here like pudding.

dwashbur
Aug 9, 2013, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dwashbur View Post
The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.
You must really be sound asleep if you can not see our country falling apart at the seams. It does not take a rocket scientist to look around unless one is blinded by their own reasoning.

Warning after warning is given in scripture and as it states that warning is falling on deaf ears. That is what I see here. A shaking of this Nation is soon coming and many will be caught with their head in the sand.

Oh, but you say " God will handle this and nothing will happen". Well I can tell you that God is the one that is allowing this to be done and it being done to wake up a dying Nation.

Need I say more because you would not understand anyway.

I could give scripture after scripture but one would just say I made them up. The old saying goes, the proof in in the pudding, but no one here like pudding.

It always fascinates me when people's answers so consistently have nothing to do with what I said. I repeat: the least in the Kingdom is still in the Kingdom; there's no indication that they are excluded because they're "the least." And none of it has anything to do with this rather peculiar view of the world/nation.

speechlesstx
Aug 9, 2013, 01:03 PM
What Does It Take To Be A Christian?

The simple answer, to know Jesus.


So many churches say different things,

Yep, what does the bible say? Simple answer, Romans 10:13, "for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


And I want to know what your opinion is.

I believe Romans 10:13.

freeman4
Aug 9, 2013, 02:31 PM
So just say , Jesus I know you and then go have a picnic. Is that all there is.