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tomder55
Aug 25, 2025, 05:47 AM
By electing socialist Trump

The latest example is the plan of the Commerce Dept to tax patents. Currently the government charges a reasonable fee for ushering patents through the process. The new plan would be for them to tax the value gained from patents.


The proposed tax raises several practical and policy concerns. First, the proposed basis for the tax is the value of the patent, a figure that is often difficult to determine. The true value of a patent may not become apparent until it can be tied to an exclusive benefit, which may not be realized until late in the 20-year patent term. Second, most patents lack any economic value as determined by success in litigation, licensing, or sale of the patent. Any deterrent value of a patent absent hard economic data (i.e., a sale, license revenue, or damages in litigation) is speculative at best. Third, a tax on patents could reduce the number of patent applications filed, especially in cash-strapped industries such as biotechnology. A value-based tax could deter patent filings among startups and companies that lack the resources to pay increased fees without clear commercial returns. That may result in companies in the innovation economy making every effort to keep technology secret, further deterring innovation. Fourth, taxing patents may have an adverse economic impact on the United States, akin to what we have observed in Europe where patents and patent applications suffer annual taxes called “annuities.” The result of the annuities in Europe is that companies limit their filings and focus their market strategy on low-tax jurisdictions, such as the United States, where they can currently file more applications at low cost. The exclusivity that results from robust patent filing here is an incentive for companies to focus on the U.S (in addition to other market incentives).

U.S. Department of Commerce Weighs Patent Tax with Significant Implications for Innovation and Patent Strategy | Sullivan & Worcester - JDSupra (https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/u-s-department-of-commerce-weighs-5742646/#:~:text=The%20proposed%20tax%20raises%20several,t echnology%20secret%2C%20further%20deterring%20inno vation.)

Again ;put this in the hands of the Dems . Value is an arbitrary number until it is realized. Instead of reducing the size of the swamp , a proposal like this empowers them to assert more control.

Companies already pay royalty taxes and pay taxes on profits.

tomder55
Aug 26, 2025, 04:56 AM
The Atlantic Mag says that it is no longer a debate of capitalism v socialism . The debate now is should our socialism be left wing or right wing.

Trump’s Right-Wing Socialism (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-s-right-wing-socialism/ar-AA1LceyF?cvid=309ff1a6371e4e10b4012634ea19bb4e&ei=10)


In fairness to Trump ,he is sometimes the very model of conservative limit government . While it is true that his Intel gambit is socialism ;on the other hand he does want to sell off US stakes in land and in the mortgage too big to fail boondoggles Freddie and Fannie

Trump wants to take Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac public. The plan has some problems. (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-to-take-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-public-the-plan-has-some-problems-100041651.html)

tomder55
Sep 1, 2025, 05:05 AM
The list of government grabbing a stake in company ownership grows
Besides Intel Nvidia and AMD have been forced to give the government 15% of their revenue from China.

Nvidia and AMD to pay 15% of China chip sales to US government (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgvvnx8y19o)

The Pentagon is now the major share holder of MP Materials

MP Materials Announces Transformational Public-Private Partnership with the Department of Defense to Accelerate U.S. Rare Earth Magnet Independence | MP Materials (https://mpmaterials.com/news/mp-materials-announces-transformational-public-private-partnership-with-the-department-of-defense-to-accelerate-u-s-rare-earth-magnet-independence/)

The Nippon deal to get US Steel allows Trump to seat someone on their board of directors and the US to get a "golden share " of the profits

Nippon Steel acquires US Steel for $14.9bn with ‘golden share’ for Trump | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/18/nippon-steel-acquires-us-steel)

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick wants to extend this model to all US Government defense contractors.

Lutnick says administration considering taking stakes in defense companies - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/26/trump-government-companies-defense-00524433)

When the government had a green industrial policy during Obama and Clueless Joe's reign the Repubs howled in protest.

When President All Out Crazy declares the nationalization of companies in the energy sector don't say you weren't warned.