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tomder55
Aug 25, 2025, 05:00 AM
He used them in LA to defend Ice ...a proper use of Federal power

He is using them in DC.... a proper use of Federal Power because DC is under Federal Jurisdiction under the Constitution.

He is on shakier grounds in his threats to use National Guard in other American cities for the sole purpose of law enforcement.

But while the Dems play lip service to his over reach ;they are so consumed with TDS that instead of making that point or proposing better ways to secure their city streets ;they resort to defending criminals .

It is bizzarro !

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Governor JB Pritzker on X: "The safety of the people of Illinois is always my top priority. There is no emergency that warrants the President of the United States federalizing the @IL_Natl_Guard, deploying the National Guard from other states, or sending active duty military within our own borders." / X (https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1959421956509548587?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1959421957725720665%7Ctwgr% 5E8d21849856cfed10d8132416e8b61c168c43c2be%7Ctwcon %5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fox32chicago.com%2Fnews% 2Fpritzker-responds-reports-pentagon-plansmilitary-deployment-chicago)

Seriously ? I have documented the crime problem in Chi-town many times. woohooo it has slightly come down from it's unacceptable numbers This was a good weekend ?

4 dead, 19 hurt in Chicago weekend shootings, police say - CBS Chicago (https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-aug-22-to-25/)

Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott says all is good

Baltimore Mayor on what led to record low crime rates : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2025/08/19/nx-s1-5503390/baltimore-mayor-brandon-scott-low-crime-rates)

Baltimore crime data and maps (https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/08/22/baltimore-city-crime-numbers/)

As a taxpayer in SC ,I am not thrilled that we have sent our Guard to patrol DC. But the question is what are the local authorities doing about it ?

tomder55
Aug 26, 2025, 05:14 AM
The Dems make the same mistake Clueless Joe Biden made when speaking about inflation. He cited stats saying it aint that bad instead of relying on the opinion of the person shopping in the stores .

The Dems sole argument has been essentially ....but but but stats say violent crime is down.

What do the people think ?


But across two years of polling from the Siena College Research Institute (SCRI), nearly 90% of city residents say that crime is a serious problem statewide and 75% say it is a problem in their community. Comparing the concern of New York City residents to those across the rest of the state, we see that city residents are far more likely to view crime in their community as a problem, and by a margin of nearly 20 points (70%-51%), they are more likely to be concerned that they personally will be a crime victim.

Vital City | The Feeling That Won't Go Away (https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/articles/crime-perceptions-and-reality-in-new-york)

CRIME NATIONWIDE SURVEY FINAL REPORT 2024 (https://irp.cdn-website.com/47fdcd9f/files/uploaded/CRIME_CHANNEL_NATIONWIDE_SURVEY_REPORT_2024.pdf)

tomder55
Aug 29, 2025, 05:01 AM
Question .... why was the FBI formed ? Because states and locals needed help in fighting crime. Should they not be involved in local law enforcement because they are Federal ?

What has Trump's National Guard mobilization in DC brought ? A huge reduction in violent crime.

Mayor Bowser changes tune on Trump crime plan after dramatic results | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dc-mayor-bowser-reverses-course-admits-trumps-federal-crime-crackdown-working)


Seems to be effective .

So much so that Gavin Newsome wants to emulate it

Governor Newsom deploys new teams to fight crime in major California cities, building on existing successful efforts | Governor of California (https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/08/28/governor-newsom-deploys-new-teams-to-fight-crime-in-major-california-cities-building-on-existing-successful-efforts/)

Why did he wait ?

tomder55
Sep 1, 2025, 04:44 AM
Trump is threatening to send the Guard to other cities . DC is a special case because it was designated a Federal City. I am open to the question of whether such a deployment is constitutional. ( I note that the left did not cry foul when JFK sent troops to Mississippi. )

Ill. Guv JD Pritzker (aka JD the Hut) is having a hissy fit shouting "invasion " "end of democracy " "Trump is an authoritarian " yada yada

Labor Day weekend is not over yet and the victims of violent crime in Chi-town are piling up.


At least 52 people have been shot, seven fatally, in shootings across Chicago so far this Labor Day weekend, police said.

Chicago shootings this weekend: At least 52 shot, 7 fatally, in Labor Day weekend gun violence across city, police department says - ABC7 Chicago (https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-labor-day-weekend-least-32-shot-3-fatally-gun-violence-city-police-department-says/17701051/)

And these stats don't take into account other violent crimes or even your run of the mill mugging ;and theft .

CLEARMAP (https://gis.chicagopolice.org/)

This as local as leaders tout the dubious "fact " that crime rates are going down.

What can JD the Hut do ? Instead of blasting Trump he could deploy the Ill Guard to Chi-town. He could support reversing the SAFE-T Act

Beginning on September 18, 2023, Illinois courts no longer use a cash bail system. Instead, they use a “pretrial release” system as allowed by the SAFE-T Act.
Cash bail changes - 2023 SAFE-T Act | Illinois Legal Aid Online (https://www.illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/cash-bail-changes-2023-safe-t-act)

He and Mayor Brandon could support the police ;unleash the police and allow them to do their jobs instead of handcuffing them to a point that they are leaving the force in droves.

Chicago Police Department exodus sees new cops are leaving in droves, Sun-Times finds - Chicago Sun-Times (https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2024/10/25/chicago-police-department-exodus-suburbs-recruiting)

tomder55
Sep 3, 2025, 05:42 AM
I am dumbfounded over Dems hanging their hats on the notion that since crime rates are down (mostly because they have eliminated crimes that have to be reported )

FBI Stats Show Plunge in Violent Crime, But There's a Catch - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-crime-data-violence-biden-trump-1911383)

Dem pollster Mark Penn has it right


The war is right here in America.
These numbers are families ripped apart; children lost; communities unsafe. And these overall statistics sugarcoat the areas with the highest numbers lost, which are five and 10 times the national average. This is not about politics, but about American lives.
The denial of this reality is one of the great scandals of our time and why so little was done to stop it until now. Every life is precious, and it's big news when a deranged individual shoots up a church, but the equivalent of that is happening multiple times a day in many places, and it seems to be hidden from the public consciousness.


Nearly 100,000 violence deaths in US as Trump tackles border, crime | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mark-penn-trump-trying-save-100000-american-lives-while-democrats-let-cities-spiral-out-control)

In a sane world the leaders of these states and cities would be begging the Federal government for assistance. Let's face facts . The reason the FBI came into being was because locals could not deal with crime on their own.

Trump yesterday said he would love the help the cities and he wishes that the Guvs and Mayors would call. But instead ;after a holiday weekend of carnage ; JD the Hut bragged how crime rates have dropped . Before that he sanitized a block of the city so he could do a PA stunt . Nothing to see here move on

'Just A Lovely Day Here, No Emergency': Pritzker Pushes Back On Trump's Chicago Crime Claims (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV2d8-viakE)


Yeah the threat is Trump sending in ICE to arrest criminals . In the Dumpty Dumpty logic of the left it's law enforcement that's the bad guys .

I agree that Trump is probably on shaky ground to use the Guard in other cities besides DC. But they should soberly look at DC and the results of Trump's surge .

Certainly DC Mayor Muriel Bowser has concluded that the Feds are worth keeping around a little longer .

DC mayor’s order suggests federal law enforcement collaboration could extend beyond 30 days - WTOP News (https://wtop.com/dc/2025/09/dc-mayors-order-alludes-federal-law-enforcement-surge-could-last-beyond-30-days/)

This is clearly open for revision because ICE officers and their families would be exposed to increased risks due to the practice of doxing

AI is ummasking ICE officers. Can Washington do anything about it? - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/29/ai-unmasking-ice-officers-00519478?cid=apn)

tomder55
Sep 12, 2025, 02:38 PM
mark the date . Sept 10 2025 . The fascist French regime of Emanual Macron deployed 80,000 troops to quell protests around the nation . ooops I mean 80,000 police dressed like troops or Empire Storm Troopers . Police used tear gas to disperse crowds and made hundreds of arrests across the country, with reports of 450 -500 arrests nationwide.
FRANCE ERUPTS: Riot cops storm into 'Block everything' protesters who are paralyzing country (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnva3Cbi1Q)

Hundreds arrested in France as 'Block Everything' protests erupt across country | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/world/france-arrests-hundreds-block-everything-protests-erupt-across-country?fbclid=IwY2xjawMxcLxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHrsg2 L6jMvfbhoKFz1VDNE16a2P22lcnA2-M-oPaHMjC_q9ulk_jMw47w88Y_aem_lEC0chG08DTBQZW_zA2T2A )