tomder55
Apr 8, 2025, 03:02 AM
The rift in the Trump administration is opening wider than it did when there was a debate about H1B visas. Again it pits MegaMAGAs against Musk .
MegaMAGAs are all for this tariff mania . They argue we have been screwed for years because we have trade imbalances . I have also heard the fanciful argument that the framers only wanted to finance the nation with tariffs . And yes that was true at the end of the 18th century when American industry was in it's infancy and the US was not a world powerhouse. Now ? All the tariffs being proposed would not pay the interest in the national debt. Their focus is skewed. If the trade imbalance is an issue ;it is far from the most pressing one.
What happens when a nation gets excess $$$$ through trade ? Typically the money does not get stuffed in a mattress . The money gets reinvested . And where is the safest place to invest ? Yes ;the US .......they buy bonds ,treasuries , real estate ,build businesses in the US . As an example . BMW has a huge manufacturing plant near where I live in South Carolina. There are 11,000 Americans working there .
A trade imbalance is neither good or bad. The U.S sustains a large trade deficit because so many foreigners are eager to invest here.
Musk knows this . He is at odds with Trump's current tariff obsession. He does not come out directly against Trump . But he is leading the internal battle in the Administration against it . Peter Navarro is Musk's target .
Here is his reply to someone on X that lauded Navarro
Insurrection Barbie on X: "Here is Peter Navarro explaining the tariffs and contrary to the paid fake expert class that is usually on corporate media, Peter Navarro has a PhD in economics from Harvard. He’s also not going to lie to you about what is happening to a globalist agenda. Notice how he uses https://t.co/Ot8lnPosOE" / X (https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1908170565816377627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1908392805841371225%7Ctwgr% 5Ee6196d0556cf888bd6c6b25ec2300be323950fe0%7Ctwcon %5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.republicworld.com%2Fworl d-news%2Fmusk-torches-trump-s-top-trade-adviser-adds-phd-in-economics-from-harvard-is-a-bad-thing)
“A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing,”
Elon Musk on X: "@DefiyantlyFree A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing. Results in the ego/brains>>1 problem." / X (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1908392805841371225)
He hopes for a North American-EU trade block that has no trade barriers .
Elon Musk says he hopes for zero tariffs with Europe someday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVCdGdS7cEI)
Elon Musk slams top Trump adviser Peter Navarro, calls for more free trade (https://www.axios.com/2025/04/05/musk-trump-tariffs-navarro-tesla?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)
And Musk is not alone .
Bill Ackman, a billionaire hedge fund manager who supports Trump called for a time out on the tariffs. (so much for the nonsense lefty conspiracy wackos like Robert Reich who claims that Trump is tanking the markets so billionaires can buy the dip ).
Why we’ll have a recession - Robert Reich (https://robertreich.substack.com/p/why-trump-and-his-billionaires-welcome)
Ackerman said
“The President has an opportunity on Monday to call a time out and have the time to execute on fixing an unfair tariff system. Alternatively, we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down,”
Bill Ackman on X: "The country is 100% behind the president on fixing a global system of tariffs that has disadvantaged the country. But, business is a confidence game and confidence depends on trust. President @realDonaldTrump has elevated the tariff issue to the most important geopolitical" / X (https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1908992002366292286)
At the other end is ever faithful Steve Bannon .( not in the administration but still a MegaMAGA influencer ) He called Musk and the tech giants surrounding Trump ... "narcissistic globalists that put their wealth and power first."
Another hedge fund billionaire Brad Gerstner tweeted
Navarro nuclear style tariffs is not what people voted for - they will break the US economy NOT make us great again. CEOs support pro business Trump who promised precision guided truly reciprocal, smart tariffs that level the global playing field
Brad Gerstner on X: "Navarro nuclear style tariffs is not what people voted for - they will break the US economy NOT make us great again. CEOs support pro business Trump who promised precision guided truly reciprocal, smart tariffs that level the global playing field. @MariaBartiromo https://t.co/g7cpN0GHMb" / X (https://x.com/altcap/status/1909256971364225283?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)
Trump's coalition is fracturing .Trumps agenda is close to going off the rails .He has very little time to fix it.
MegaMAGAs are all for this tariff mania . They argue we have been screwed for years because we have trade imbalances . I have also heard the fanciful argument that the framers only wanted to finance the nation with tariffs . And yes that was true at the end of the 18th century when American industry was in it's infancy and the US was not a world powerhouse. Now ? All the tariffs being proposed would not pay the interest in the national debt. Their focus is skewed. If the trade imbalance is an issue ;it is far from the most pressing one.
What happens when a nation gets excess $$$$ through trade ? Typically the money does not get stuffed in a mattress . The money gets reinvested . And where is the safest place to invest ? Yes ;the US .......they buy bonds ,treasuries , real estate ,build businesses in the US . As an example . BMW has a huge manufacturing plant near where I live in South Carolina. There are 11,000 Americans working there .
A trade imbalance is neither good or bad. The U.S sustains a large trade deficit because so many foreigners are eager to invest here.
Musk knows this . He is at odds with Trump's current tariff obsession. He does not come out directly against Trump . But he is leading the internal battle in the Administration against it . Peter Navarro is Musk's target .
Here is his reply to someone on X that lauded Navarro
Insurrection Barbie on X: "Here is Peter Navarro explaining the tariffs and contrary to the paid fake expert class that is usually on corporate media, Peter Navarro has a PhD in economics from Harvard. He’s also not going to lie to you about what is happening to a globalist agenda. Notice how he uses https://t.co/Ot8lnPosOE" / X (https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1908170565816377627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1908392805841371225%7Ctwgr% 5Ee6196d0556cf888bd6c6b25ec2300be323950fe0%7Ctwcon %5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.republicworld.com%2Fworl d-news%2Fmusk-torches-trump-s-top-trade-adviser-adds-phd-in-economics-from-harvard-is-a-bad-thing)
“A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing,”
Elon Musk on X: "@DefiyantlyFree A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing. Results in the ego/brains>>1 problem." / X (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1908392805841371225)
He hopes for a North American-EU trade block that has no trade barriers .
Elon Musk says he hopes for zero tariffs with Europe someday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVCdGdS7cEI)
Elon Musk slams top Trump adviser Peter Navarro, calls for more free trade (https://www.axios.com/2025/04/05/musk-trump-tariffs-navarro-tesla?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)
And Musk is not alone .
Bill Ackman, a billionaire hedge fund manager who supports Trump called for a time out on the tariffs. (so much for the nonsense lefty conspiracy wackos like Robert Reich who claims that Trump is tanking the markets so billionaires can buy the dip ).
Why we’ll have a recession - Robert Reich (https://robertreich.substack.com/p/why-trump-and-his-billionaires-welcome)
Ackerman said
“The President has an opportunity on Monday to call a time out and have the time to execute on fixing an unfair tariff system. Alternatively, we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down,”
Bill Ackman on X: "The country is 100% behind the president on fixing a global system of tariffs that has disadvantaged the country. But, business is a confidence game and confidence depends on trust. President @realDonaldTrump has elevated the tariff issue to the most important geopolitical" / X (https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1908992002366292286)
At the other end is ever faithful Steve Bannon .( not in the administration but still a MegaMAGA influencer ) He called Musk and the tech giants surrounding Trump ... "narcissistic globalists that put their wealth and power first."
Another hedge fund billionaire Brad Gerstner tweeted
Navarro nuclear style tariffs is not what people voted for - they will break the US economy NOT make us great again. CEOs support pro business Trump who promised precision guided truly reciprocal, smart tariffs that level the global playing field
Brad Gerstner on X: "Navarro nuclear style tariffs is not what people voted for - they will break the US economy NOT make us great again. CEOs support pro business Trump who promised precision guided truly reciprocal, smart tariffs that level the global playing field. @MariaBartiromo https://t.co/g7cpN0GHMb" / X (https://x.com/altcap/status/1909256971364225283?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)
Trump's coalition is fracturing .Trumps agenda is close to going off the rails .He has very little time to fix it.