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tomder55
Oct 25, 2024, 07:54 AM
Tim Walz to students at Duke University .... Trump is a Nazi who is going to lock you and me up rounding us up with the military . Repubs want to kill women.
TIM WALZ with DUKE UNIV students: Durham, North Carolina - Bryan Center -- FULL REMARKS (10-24-2024) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGqHgUxG-NI)
JD Vance to Williamsport PA . The issue is the 1st amendment. Kam the Sham wants to silence opposition .Trump wants to defend freedom of speech
JD Vance: "the first amendment" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2MMvpGFrYA)
jlisenbe
Oct 25, 2024, 08:31 AM
Tim Walz to students at Duke University .... Trump is a Nazi who is going to lock you and me up rounding us up with the military . Repubs want to kill women.Absurdly into overkill mode.
JD Vance to Williamsport PA . The issue is the 1st amendment. Kam the Sham wants to silence opposition .Trump wants to defend freedom of speech. Somewhat true but still an overstatement.
tomder55
Oct 25, 2024, 01:14 PM
Where is the joy ? Kam and Tim promised joy . Instead they are running on fear . And their attempt is absurd. They trot out the emperor a former President who is Black to say that Blacks can't get a fair shake ..... and they are stupid and misogynistic.
They are tossing the Hitler card . I could write a long post about all the ways the Dems have been acting like Nazis (Vance's point ) . She wants to end filibuster so the Dems can have total control . She was selected and annointed sans the democratic process. Every Dem of note wants free speech censors in a Goebbels like controlling hate speech rationale .
They have nothing . She claims to want to go back to Roe (no going back???) But she revealed the truth about how radical she really is.
She let it slip during her NBC interview Tuesday
When asked if she would make a concession for caretakers who have a religious objection to abortions she said no concessions at all.
“I don’t think we should be making concessions when we’re talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body,”
Autonomy for the woman who wants to abort but none for the woman who does not want to assist . Government in Kam's world can compel them .
"If in fact, Republicans control Congress, would you offer them an olive branch, or is that off the table? Is that not an option for you?”
She said no ;abortion “cannot be negotiable.”
She wants Roe to be the law of the land. But Roe never legalized things like late term abortions.(legal in several states ) Roe allowed for the killing of babies until so called 'viability' outside the womb. That is recognized at about the 24th week.
In Kam's world a doctor or other health care provider who refused to be a part of a baby killing would be a criminal or subject to a lawsuit. Why a woman would want a doctor who doesn't want to do the procedure is beyond me. Then again ;why would a homosexual couple insist that a baker bake them a cake if that baker didn't want to ? Full transcript: Vice President Kamala Harris interviewed by NBC News' Hallie Jackson (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/transcript-president-kamala-harris-interview-nbc-news-hallie-jackson-rcna176330)
tomder55
Oct 26, 2024, 04:33 AM
When Walz says Trump is going to use the military against his domestic enemies ;this is classic Democrat projection. What is DOD directive 5240.01 ? IT is a directive that the DOD 1st issued in 2016 that involved intel gathering . It was revised September 27 .
Section 3.3.a.(2)(c) now permits lethal force in cases of imminent threats or national security emergencies.
Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonably foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civilian law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonably anticipated.
DoD Directive 5240.01, "DoD Intelligence and Intelligence-Related Activities and Defense Intelligence Component Assistance to Law Enforcement Agencies and Other Civil Authorities," September 27, 2024 (https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodd/524001p.pdf)
This is not Trump. This is the Clueless Joe-Kam the Sham administration that made the revision.
RFK Jr understands the power this directive gives the executive .
Robert F. Kennedy Jr on X: "This is the kind of inflammatory poison that divides our nation and inspires assassins. It’s particularly ironic since Biden/Harris have just pushed through DoD Directive 5240.01 giving the Pentagon power — for the first time in history — to use lethal force to kill Americans on" / X (https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1849189689623806079)
Listen to Dem Rhetoric in the last week . Here is James Carville's call to arms as he gins up more fear .
‘Pay attention. PLEASE’: Carville sounds alarm on Trump’s threat to round up political foes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlPzHGh5B6o)
Trump has seen 2 attempts on his life in this campaign , And the Dems say he is Hitler and has to be stopped.
Now the new thing is if he has an event in Madison Square Garden it is the same as the one American Nazis had in 1939 .
But when the Dems had events there ...... all's cool.
Today's #Garden366 Moment – 7/16/1992:... - Madison Square Garden | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=10151761979521499&id=28859306498&_rdr)
tomder55
Oct 27, 2024, 06:39 AM
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jlisenbe
Oct 27, 2024, 08:36 PM
Exactly correct, and then you must throw into the bargain the activities of the FBI in attempting to suppress the story.
tomder55
Nov 7, 2024, 06:10 AM
toxic masculinity
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gbv1pqHbkAAg9Up?format=jpg&name=small
jlisenbe
Nov 7, 2024, 06:36 AM
Yeah. I noticed that during her speech. Nauseating. "I realize we are under attack, but before I can respond, I need to go have a good cry for a few minutes."
What is manhood coming to?
jlisenbe
Nov 7, 2024, 02:53 PM
I've been thinking today on the subject of why Harris and the dems lost. It's what you do when you're retired. Some things to consider would include these.
1. All of the extreme social causes, everything from drag-queen story hour to the woke culture to destructive riots to mandating sex-change surgeries for young children with no input allowed from parents, are all associated with democrats.
2. The nauseating political activism of the Hollywood elite. This includes everything from late night television to movie and television scenes that openly promote left-wing causes. People have become weary of the "know it all" attitude of these people. Think of "The View" and "Madam Secretary".
3. A growing suspicion that our culture is becoming sicker by the day and is approaching a place from which we might not be able to recover.
4. Concerning Harris, there was a perception that she was either hopelessly uninformed and inept, or that she bordered on being cowardly due to her refusal to face press conferences and interviews from potentially unfriendly journalists.
5. The abundantly clear evidence that the vast majority of the supposedly politically impartial national news media were, in fact, all in for democrat candidates and causes.
6. Most pols lie, but the dems took it to a place of absurdity, and did so while trying to maintain a posture of innocence and morality. For instance, there was the never-ending accusation that Trump tried to encourage and even lead an insurrection on 1/6, or that he was a Hitler-like fascist who would end democracy. After a time, it just became too much.
What did I leave out?
When I watched Ms. Harris give her concession speech, I felt it was truly from her heart and not the concoction of political operatives. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if she had done more of that in the past four months. And I say that with great gratitude that she did NOT win.
tomder55
Nov 7, 2024, 05:00 PM
All that is true But don't you know ? uneducated white women ;misogynistic Black men ;and misogynistic and racist Hispanics formed a coalition against her. Doesn't matter that NO ONE in the Dems ranks wanted her . They thought when they staged a coup against Joe ;led by San Fran Madam Mim ;that they would install San Fran Gavin Newsom in her place. Joe knee capped that plan with his quick endorsement of Kam.
Then on top of that Oct 7 massacre in Israel split the party. Instead of picking Shapiro of the critical swing state of PA for Veep she went with Elmer Fudd from a state she did not have to contest. Why not Shapiro ? Because he is Jewish and the SQUAD antisemitic coalition was never really on board . Trump flipped Michigan . I never saw that coming . Why did he win there ? Because she was seen as a phony. The week before the election she was running pro-Palestinian ads in Michigan; and pro-Israeli in Pa. Did she think no one would see that ?
She could not reconcile her 'we need change message ' with her frequent comment that she could not think of a thing she would've done differently .
She could not explain her clear 180 degree turn in policies ;what I called her 'road to Damascus conversions from the consensus the most radical lefty in the Senate to the positions she ran on. On many issues she could've been wearing a MAGA hat .
As you said she tried Joe's campaign from the basement strategy . That worked in 2020 due to covid. This year there was no other conclusion that she was a coward
Making Trump the issue was a dumb idea. She needed to make the case why we should elect her . Everyone already knew where they stood with Trump . After 4 years of the current regime ;he did not seem so bad. And she was not giving anyone a reason to vote for her.
SCOTUS ending Roe ended abortion as a national issue. Every state has their own version of an abortion law and to be quite honest ;what the Dems call the most severe law by conservatives is the standard for Europe. Only 3 countries don't restrict abortions after 12 weeks . NONE allow 3rd term . The left of American is the most radical in the world on this issue.
Legal time frames for abortion in European countries 2020 | Statista (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268439/legal-abortion-time-frames-in-europe/)
I will give more thoughts as time allows.
tomder55
Nov 7, 2024, 05:44 PM
One more thing . The indictments turned Trump into a sympathetic person who was taking the hit so we would not have to . The assassination attempts added an exclamation point. The indictments were the biggest blunder by the Dems .
jlisenbe
Nov 7, 2024, 09:40 PM
Two great points.
tomder55
Nov 8, 2024, 03:36 AM
The Dems chose to champion the wrong "woman's right" . Abortion was a flop because Trump wisely decided to reject support of national legislation. But against all criticism about his hammering away about women's rights vs transformer rights ;it turns out that the public doesn't want men in dresses stalking girls locker rooms .
“We will get ... transgender insanity the hell out of our schools, and we will keep men out of women’s sports,”
Trump and Vance make anti-trans attacks central to campaign | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-transgender-politics-61cff97a64fac581ffc5f762be4c57d3?utm_source=substa ck&utm_medium=email)
tomder55
Nov 8, 2024, 03:42 AM
Let the circular firing squad commence.
Clueless Joe and Kam the Sham point fingers at each other
Harris, Biden camps blame each other for loss (https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/kamala-harris-biden-advisers-blame-election?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)
My own thinking is that the Dems will be in a hopeless downward spiral as long as their fundamental policy is identity politics. Identity politics needs victims . Victims eventually become the oppressors . In the end they eat their own.
jlisenbe
Nov 8, 2024, 06:13 AM
Biden and Harris were both fairly weak candidates. JB won only because of Covid, and Harris got to the top of the totem pole only because of her race and gender.
tomder55
Nov 10, 2024, 03:20 AM
2 people who can't understand how Trump won.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb8wwgSXkAAg9ad?format=jpg&name=small
tomder55
Nov 10, 2024, 07:43 AM
Bolshevik Bernie and San Fran Nan Madam Mim have entered the circular firing squad. Bernie claims the Dems abandoned the working class and then act surprised they did not vote for them.
Bernie Sanders on X: "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.https://t.co/lM2gSJmQFL" / X (https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1854271157135941698)
Madam Mim in an interview rebuked Bernie and otherwise went into complete denial
‘The Interview’: Nancy Pelosi Insists the Election Was Not a Rebuke of the Democrats - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/magazine/nancy-pelosi-election-interview.html)
jlisenbe
Nov 10, 2024, 09:28 PM
Not too sure how I feel about this election. The economy didn't help the dems. Their association with every weird trend from drag queen story hour to "women" who just happen to have penises engaging in women's sports also didn't help. Harris was a fairly weak candidate on top of it all, so Trump was able to win convincingly.
Might mention one more thing. The plain and obvious leftward lean of the MSM has become so obvious that I wonder if some people aren't lodging a protest vote against this attempted brain-washing.
tomder55
Nov 11, 2024, 03:03 PM
Might mention one more thing. The plain and obvious leftward lean of the MSM has become so obvious that I wonder if some people aren't lodging a protest vote against this attempted brain-washing.
CBS probably realizes they need to get some balance.
BREAKING: Megyп Kelly aпd Caпdace Oweпs Sigп $700 Millioп Deal with CBS for Morпiпg Show to Compete with ‘The View’ -MY2 (https://amazing.besttopixs.com/posts/breaking-megyn-kelly-candace-owens-sign-million-deal-cbs-morning-show-compete-bao123#goog_rewarded)
I expect one of them will be tapped to be Trump's press secretary .
jlisenbe
Nov 11, 2024, 08:39 PM
BREAKING: Megyп Kelly aпd Caпdace Oweпs Sigп $700 Millioп Deal with CBS for Morпiпg Show to Compete with ‘The View’ -MY2 (https://amazing.besttopixs.com/posts/breaking-megyn-kelly-candace-owens-sign-million-deal-cbs-morning-show-compete-bao123#goog_rewarded)
I expect one of them will be tapped to be Trump's press secretary That is really incredible. I would think they would draw more viewers than The View. But if they're going to do it, then I hope they do it right. Don't be a couple of partisan hacks like Whoopi, but just present the truth.
tomder55
Nov 12, 2024, 03:14 AM
I think they will . Neither have been acolytes in the past . Kelly got a lot of heat when she moderated a debate on Fox for being too tough on Trump
Donald Trump, Megyn Kelly Feud HIGHLIGHTS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suX147xwWg4)
Owens has taken heat for anti Israel comments .She clashed with Ben Shapiro at 'Daily Wire' before she left the network.