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tomder55
Sep 10, 2024, 08:35 PM
In baseball a meatball is a pitch that is thrown down the middle of the plate that is easy to hit . Time after time he was pitched meatballs and most of them he missed. Not until the very end did he manage to bring up the fact that all the ideas that Kam the Sham suddenly published the day before the debate ;contradicting positions she had taken throughout her political career were not acted on in 3 1/2 years .

I will go into greater detail tomorrow. But one example is the border . Hint ...her name was Laken Riley . Yes she had a name that most Americans are familiar with .Trump never bothered to give the names of the victims who would still be alive if we weren't being invaded . Instead he spoke of then eating pets . That was a big whiff.

Bottom line is that Kam won the debate in a blow out.

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 04:36 AM
On top of that Kam set traps for Trump that he consistently walked into . She proved she has skills as a prosecutorial lawyer (or is that liar ) .

I go with liar. Although Trump did a poor job with what he was given ; the bottom line is that on a number of issues she has pivoted to the point that her previous positions are diametrically opposed to the ones she states and /or published . She said again that her values have not changed . But both can't be right.

Her new positions are contrary to the values she had . Either that or she had a 'Road to Damascus' conversion.(The phrase “Road to Damascus” is used to describe a conversion which is dramatic and startling. It is from the book of Acts in the Bible. )
Conversion of Paul the Apostle - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle)

Of course the Kam friendly moderators did not press her on that. But Trump should not have assumed that they would . In fact ;during his town hall on FOX ;he speculated that they would give her the questions . So he knew he was walking into the lions den and that the only thing they could NOT control is what he said in his time. It was up to him to press the issue.
Lion's den Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lion%27s%20den)

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 04:51 AM
I thought Tulsi Gabbard was coaching him. It appears he got more of his talking points from people like loony Laura Loomer .

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 05:03 AM
Back to the substance.
Kam bragged about price fixing for Medicare drugs . Price fixing for drugs is no different than price fixing for anything else. In a free market economy a seller has choices too.

What Kam was referring to is measures in the misnamed 'Inflation Reduction Act' (she brags about being the deciding vote on this economy busting legislation )

Bottom line is insurers are going to exclude coverage of more drugs and mandating 'step therapy ' (forcing patients to accept alternative medicines or treatment if they want to be covered or even receive prescribed medicine ) .

Inflation Reduction Act Could Have Devastating Consequences for Americans | PhRMA (https://phrma.org/en/Inflation-Reduction-Act)

Part D Plans Ramp up Restrictions on Medications – Center for Retirement Research (bc.edu) (https://crr.bc.edu/part-d-plans-ramp-up-restrictions-on-medications/)

What is Step Therapy? How to Get Insurance to Pay for Your “Non-Preferred” Drug - GoodRx (https://www.goodrx.com/drugs/savings/what-is-step-therapy)

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 06:25 AM
Megyn Kelly Says She's "Disgusted" by Terrible Performance of Biased ABC Debate Moderators (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agKBqo9qsmU)

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 06:32 AM
Again (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgA7BmFLT8)

This ad names victims names .

tomder55
Sep 11, 2024, 06:46 AM
Trump probably was not even coached on the name of the Venezuelan gang that has infiltrated the country through the Joe-Kam open border policies
This report by Jame O'Keefe details that the DHS and US military are afraid of them

Tren de Aragua “has established a presence in Brooklyn, Bronx, and Williamsburg, NY,"with “approximately 400 TdA members” living in these cities. The CUI also warns that TdA members in Denver “have been given a 'green light’ to fire on or attack law enforcement,” with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) in New York receiving a similar report.T
he document details how the criminal organization is using advanced technology and surveillance, heightening the danger to U.S. military personnel and law enforcement. It states, “Coordinated efforts between local, state, federal law enforcement, and the military are crucial” to protect against these expanding threats.With National Guardsmen recently seen in subway stations across New York City, the situation is escalating as Venezuelan gang members, linked to the TdA, have been involved in violent incidents, including an attack on a Colorado apartment complex in late August.


Leaked US Army Documents: Thousands Of Violent Venezuelan Prison Gang Members Run Amok Across America | ZeroHedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leaked-us-army-documents-thousands-violent-venezuelan-prison-gang-members-run-amok-across)

Venezuelan Criminal Organization Infiltrates New York City: Report - The Maine Wire (https://www.themainewire.com/2024/09/venezuelan-criminal-organization-infiltrates-new-york-city-report/)



Trump got the town right ;Springfield Ohio . But for some odd reason fixated on the illegals eating pets .

captive dreamer on X: "Absolutely HEARTBREAKING moment Springfield, Ohio, resident tells mayor that she "can't take it anymore" as Haitian migrants squat on her lawn, litter in her yard and harass her and elderly husband daily. The mayor of Springfield does NOT want people to see this: https://t.co/OJtAy7LSXX" / X (https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1832265609905672235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1832265609905672235%7Ctwgr% 5E76594918e48d5eccb053c2f8167a7675994881c2%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitica l%2Fcant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm)

jlisenbe
Sep 11, 2024, 08:25 PM
Sometimes I think Trump's middle name is "odd reasons". One way or the other, if we elect Harris, we deserve what we get.

tomder55
Sep 12, 2024, 02:33 AM
Police report confirms that illegal Haitian immigrants were taking geese (not dogs and cats )

Scribd (https://www.scribd.com/embeds/767911174/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&access_key=key-FgAt6C3w3O2whVVHFZHL)

I've always said that if I was hungry I would grab a Canadian goose and cook it . Geese are over populated in some areas. Goose with an orange glaze is tasty.

Wondergirl
Sep 12, 2024, 11:10 AM
Sometimes I think Trump's middle name is "odd reasons". One way or the other, if we elect Harris, we deserve what we get.
Yes, we are good people, and she will be good to us and fill our hearts with joy that we chose her over the three-year-old bully boy (or ancient, demented fossil?) who can hardly put two sentences together! (And you complained loudly about OLD Biden???)


Trump probably was not even coached on the name of the Venezuelan gang that has infiltrated the country through the Joe-Kam open border policies.
tRump, as an ignorant egotist, waved away those coaches.

jlisenbe
Sep 12, 2024, 04:01 PM
Yes, we are good people, and she will be good to us and fill our hearts with joy that we chose her over the three-year-old bully boy (or ancient, demented fossil?) who can hardly put two sentences together! (And you complained loudly about OLD Biden???)I have never complained about Biden's age.

Your hatred of Trump is just incredible. In the Christian circles I am in, I just don't see that kind of hatred directed at anyone. It really is stunning to observe.

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 02:30 AM
Gutfeld It was the first DEI debate where different standards were enforced on Trump while Harris had none.

Kamala Harris ‘lied at will’: Greg Gutfeld | Fox News Video (https://www.foxnews.com/video/6361859943112)

He's right a number of things that she said have been debunked by her own allies in the compliant press. Here is Snope fact check on the misquote .

the very fine people hoax

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People' | Snopes.com (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)


Reporter: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?
Trump: I do think there is blame — yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.
Reporter:The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.
Trump: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did — you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status, are we gonna take down — excuse me — are we gonna take down statues of George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Okay good. Are we gonna take down the statue? Cause he was a major slaveowner. Now are we gonna take down his statue? So you know what? It's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture, and you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits, and with the helmets, and the baseball bats, you got a lot of bad people in the other group too.

blood bath

Anyone who sees a tape of his comments can only conclude that he was speaking specifically about Chinese autos that are being manufactured in Mexico . What he said is that if he isn't elected then they will start being imported into the US and that will kill the domestic auto industry . That only by his being elected will the auto industry avoid that "blood bath"


Synonyms of bloodbath (https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/bloodbath)

see 2 b

1
: a great slaughter








a: a notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle the campaign has become a bloodbath




b: a major economic disaster ... a market bloodbath



Bloodbath Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodbath)

Doesn't matter He has been repeatedly been misquoted by Joe ,Kam and just about every other Dem without being challenged by the compliant press fact checkers . He clearly said in his address that his remedy was to slap 100% tariffs on Chinese autos .


“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,”

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”


Trump promises a catastrophic ultimatum for Chinese automakers, if elected - TheStreet (https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/trump-promises-a-catastrophic-ultimatum-for-chinese-automakers-if-elected-)


project 2025 .

Trump has stated over and over again that he had nothing to do with Heritage Foundation proposals.The Heritage Foundation is staffed by Conservatives and although some of them were in the Trump administration; I have frequently stated here that Trump's policies are far from conservative doctrine. He is way more moderate than the Dems like to admit . Kam the Sham has pivoted to the center and suddenly she is adopting many of Trump's positions.

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 03:17 AM
one more Haitian illegals eating cats in Ohio


BODYCAM | Ohio woman arrested for eating a cat - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNh9clZUU3Y)

others .
Kam said there were currently no U.S. military service members in active combat zones; this is flatly untrue .Where were the questions of Kam covering up Joe's mental decline ?

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 04:01 AM
Trump is being ridiculed for saying Kamu would support transformer surgery for incarcerated illegal aliens . But that is a true statement that she put in writing in an ACLU questionnaire and has been fact checked by CNN

KFILE: Harris pledged support in 2019 to cut ICE funding and provide transgender surgery to detained migrants | CNN Politics (https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXNkgi5XcAASfU_?format=jpg&name=small

jlisenbe
Sep 13, 2024, 04:25 AM
Well OK then, she lied way more than just once and has managed to convince our corrupt national media to support her in the hopes of subverting the will of the American people so as to get Harris elected, but don't forget that Trump has strange hair!!

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 05:41 AM
Are you better off than you were 4 years ago ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXKsg9MW8AEJoYW?format=jpg&name=small

jlisenbe
Sep 13, 2024, 05:47 AM
I'm going to post that on Facebook, but since it doesn't involve football, grandkids, or someone getting a new girlfriend, it will likely be largely ignored. Sigh. At any rate, are you confident in that data?

Tom, are you familiar with this website? https://usafacts.org

It's run by a guy named Ballmer who was a wheel with Microsoft. They claim to be non partisan and only interested in correct data. I haven't looked at it much since I just came across it this morning.

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 04:24 PM
Flashback Clueless Joe and Kam the Sham increase Temporary Protective Status to 300,000 Haitian illegals after this scene



https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1qwC1I.img?w=768&h=480&m=6

Biden administration extends temporary legal status to 300,000 Haitians, drawing a contrast to Trump | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/temporary-protected-status-tps-haiti-haitians-biden-e92b8de782d2c1218dd1be1899aa926d)
How TPS has expanded under the Biden administration | Pew Research Center (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/03/29/how-temporary-protected-status-has-expanded-under-the-biden-administration/)


You see ;since Biden decided they are legal it debunks Trump's claim that they aren't

But where will they live ? Joe says 'not my problem'

Trump should've said that Biden caused the crisis after Trump had tried to end the program.
US court allows Trump to phase out Temporary Protected Status - Roll Call (https://rollcall.com/2020/09/14/temporary-protected-status-court-ruling/)

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 04:32 PM
Local communities are overwhelmed . The city’s manager, Bryan Heck, sent a letter to Ohio’s senior senator, Sherrod Brown.“Springfield has seen a surge in population through immigration putting a significant strain on our resources”, in particular housing availability.“ Springfield’s Haitian population has increased to 15,000 – 20,000 over the last four years in a community of just under 60,000 previous residents, putting a significant strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents.”

The mayor said “Is there a cut-off point for the population here?”. ”I mean, I feel like there should be a ‘No Vacancy’ sign right now and people are still coming in. What’s the cut-off point?”

Springfield is not alone . The nations eye is focused on it now because Trump brought up the subject in a stupid way. Who was addressing the issue before however ?

tomder55
Sep 13, 2024, 05:26 PM
What I am confident in is that Joe-Kam say unchallenged that they inherited inflation and that is a provable lie . Even with the rate declining we are talking about a high of 9.1% . It has fallen to around 3% which is still higher than when Trump left office. When Trump left office inflation was a low of 1.4% and had been through the 4th qrt of 2020 . Prices don't come down . So consumers are stuck with what we have been given .
What does that mean ? Prices have risen almost 20% since Clueless Joe -Kam the Sham took the reigns . And to tell you the truth prices have largely stabilized because Clueless Joe cannot ban fracking on private lands .

Wondergirl
Sep 14, 2024, 10:04 AM
What I am confident in is that Joe-Kam say unchallenged that they inherited inflation and that is a provable lie . Even with the rate declining we are talking about a high of 9.1% . It has fallen to around 3% which is still higher than when Trump left office. When Trump left office inflation was a low of 1.4% and had been through the 4th qrt of 2020 . Prices don't come down . So consumers are stuck with what we have been given .
What does that mean ? Prices have risen almost 20% since Clueless Joe -Kam the Sham took the reigns . And to tell you the truth prices have largely stabilized because Clueless Joe cannot ban fracking on private lands .
Talk with the Chinese about this. If tRump is elected, he will need to make friends with them so they lower the prices of all the goods they send to us. So many things we buy are labeled "Made in China".

tomder55
Sep 14, 2024, 04:02 PM
Trump has a record that says otherwise . When I have time I will detail that special relationship Walz has with the Chinese.

tomder55
Sep 16, 2024, 03:12 AM
During the debate Kam the Sham said she would not confiscate guns . That contradicts what she said in a Dem primary debate in 2020. What is interesting is that David Muir asked the question then. He was also co-moderator in the Kam-Trump debate . Yet he did not challenge her with a "fact check" ....something the moderators frequently did to Trump .

Here is the 2020 section . Note that Joe called her out and said the 2nd amendment protects gun owner ship so she could not confiscate .Her response was essentially
"watch me".

Democratic candidates debate: Gun reform l ABC News (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrc0-K3U0MQ)

tomder55
Sep 16, 2024, 03:39 AM
Here is Dem hack Senator Richard Blumenthal speaking about the Butler Pa attempt Friday .
I think the American people are going to be shocked, astonished and appalled by what we will report to them about the failures by the Secret Service in this assassination attempt on the former president

Democrat senator says Americans will be ‘shocked’ by report into Trump assassination attempt (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyba0c3l4q0)

jlisenbe
Sep 16, 2024, 05:00 AM
I listened to KH's comments in the video you linked. It was her usual strategy of using many words to essentially say nothing. I did not hear her propose a confiscation program on assault weapons. Biden seemed to lean that way but insisted it could only be done in Congress. Did I miss something?

tomder55
Sep 16, 2024, 05:11 AM
Here's another one . She calls it a mandatory buy back

Kamala Harris on a mandatory buyback program 2019 (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C6tEmqziE0)

Flashback to Kamala Harris: "Yes, We Can" Use Executive Orders for Gun Control (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXYXCyBzWg)

Wondergirl
Sep 16, 2024, 10:54 AM
Gun CONTROL. Not taking away ALL guns. The Chicago newspapers, page after page, report shootings and killings by mentally ill or angry or jealous or hateful shooters. Too many unstable people have access to a gun. We need better oversight.

tomder55
Sep 16, 2024, 02:18 PM
sorry what does MANDATORY buy back mean to you ? She plays games with word salad

jlisenbe
Sep 16, 2024, 03:37 PM
shootings and killings by mentally ill or angry or jealous or hateful shooters. What is your plan to control the hateful, angry, or jealous people?


Too many unstable people have access to a gun. We need better oversight.How do you decide who is "unstable"? What kind of oversight are you proposing?

Wondergirl
Sep 17, 2024, 09:01 AM
What is your plan to control the hateful, angry, or jealous people?
How do you decide who is "unstable"? What kind of oversight are you proposing?
Oh, I see! You want every American, no matter how young, to own a gun.

jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2024, 11:20 AM
Oh, I see! You want every American, no matter how young, to own a gun.That response made me laugh!!

Wondergirl
Sep 17, 2024, 05:03 PM
That response made me laugh!!
You laugh. What's YOUR idea for gun control?

jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2024, 05:23 PM
I laughed because I asked you two serious questions and you ran away from them by lobbing accusations at me. It's so humorously predictable. But I'm still glad your health is better, and you can post again.

My suggestion to people who are worried is to buy a handgun and learn how to use it. Protect yourself from the bad guys. As to what to do nationally, a Christian revival would be very helpful. Posting the Ten Commandments on school walls would help. Toning down the gun violence in movies, television, and especially video games would help. Restoring the traditional father/mother family would help. In other words, a great national movement towards being responsible would be my suggestion.

tomder55
Sep 24, 2024, 03:10 AM
Crime . Trump claimed crime rates are up . "Moderator" David Muir did an instant "fact check " and said FBI says crime rates are down. Trump told him the FBI is wrong .

Who's right ?

Stats are a funny thing. The FBI stats come from crimes reported to them from state city and local governments. If a crime is not reported then it doesn't get included in the FBI stats.


But there is a more reliable stat. It is the' National Crime Victimization Survey that is run by the Bureau of Justice Statistics and administered by the Census Bureau.(NCVS).
The NCVS, which dates to the Nixon administration, is the nation’s largest crime survey and one of the largest federal surveys on any topic. It’s designed to register crimes that people, for whatever reason, chose not to report to police.

Oh crime is down in suburbia. But the crime wave in urban areas are an inconvenient truth they ignore. 58.5 percent of violent crimes, and 68.2 percent of property crimes—were not reported to police. The number of violent victimizations rose from 5.8 million in 2019 to 6.6 million in 2022. This came at the same time the Dems wanted to defund police.


According to the NCVS, the urban violent-crime rate increased 40% from 2019 to 2023. Excluding simple assault, the urban violent-crime rate rose 54% over that span. From 2022 to 2023, the urban violent-crime rate didn’t change to a statistically significant degree, so these higher crime rates appear to be the new norm in America’s cities.
The urban property-crime rate is also getting worse. It rose from 176.1 victimizations per 1,000 households in 2022 to 192.3 in 2023. That’s part of a 26% increase in the urban property-crime rate since 2019. These numbers exclude rampant shoplifting, since the NCVS is a survey of households and not of businesses.
In contrast, violent-crime rates in suburban and rural areas have been essentially unchanged since 2019.



Contrary to Media Myth, U.S. Urban Crime Rates Are Up - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/opinion/contrary-to-media-myth-u-s-urban-crime-rates-are-up-violence-cities-9ce714f6?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1)

Criminal Victimization, 2022 (ojp.gov) (https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv22.pdf)

jlisenbe
Sep 24, 2024, 12:51 PM
Note to Mr. Trump. Always be prepared to support any data you refer to in a debate. That way, when the thoroughly unprofessional, biased so-called "journalist" tries to contradict you, you can shove them up against the wall (rhetorically, of course) and let them appear to be what they truly are.