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tomder55
Aug 11, 2024, 03:21 AM
'Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off
(Shake it off Taylor Swift)
But this is not really about Taylor Swift . She is really a victim . The news this week was that a concert of hers was cancelled in Vienna because a jihadist plotted to attack it and commit mass murder .
Organizers canceled three concerts, which were scheduled to take place in the European capital from Thursday to Saturday. CNN has reached out to Swift’s representatives for comment.
Investigators unearthed a stockpile of chemicals, explosive devices, detonators and 21,000 euros in counterfeit cash at the home of the main suspect, a 19-year-old ISIS sympathizer who had been radicalized online, according to authorities.
Taylor Swift Eras Tour: ISIS-inspired suspect planned suicide attack at concert, Austrian authorities say | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/08/europe/isis-inspired-suicide-terror-attack-taylor-swift-vienna-intl/index.html)
This comes in the wake of a mass murder in Southport England that claimed the life of 3 girls and the injuring of 8 others in a knife attack .2 adults were also injured bravely defending the girls .
This happened at a Taylor Swift event at a dance studio.
The attacker was NOT Muslim. But misinformation about the attacker led to riots . (the person charged is a Christian born is Wales from Rwandan parents ) . UK is blaming social media for this .
UK's top prosecutor is cracking down .Rioters are being arrested . He has threatened to extradite social media influencers from outside the UK .
Top U.K. prosecutor considers terrorism charges over ongoing riots and disorder - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uk-riot-disorder-prosecutor-considers-terrorism-charges/)
UK and EU have extradition treaties with the US . They both have so called "Hate Speech" laws . Most of US major social media have agreements with the UK and EU to take down content that is deemed misinformation by some bureaucrat in those governing bodies.
Elon Musk's X (Twitter ) is an exception even though he often complies with requests . But that is not good enough . So some MPs are calling for him to face the music. His crime ? He believes in free speech .
British MPs want to haul Elon Musk before parliament over riots – POLITICO (https://www.politico.eu/article/united-kingdom-mps-elon-musk-parliament-riots/)
Do you have any doubt that American authorities ;who are inconveniently restrained by the 1st amendment, would export censorship enforcement ? They hate that Musk controls X . He is the only kink in the Censorship industrial complex .
Michael Shellenberger is a liberal journalist who is also a free speech advocate (like libs used to believe in the US before they became the authoritarian party . ) He explains that a future Kam the Sham- Tim Walz administration is a scary prospect for those who oppose government censorship. As I posted elsewhere ; Tim Weiz does not believe in the 1st amendment. Kam the Sham has only taken 4 brief questions from the press since she was emaculated .
It’s very different in Britain, which allows the police to arrest people for language considered “extreme.” And indeed the government just arrested three people for what they wrote on social media platforms, and it could arrest many more in the coming weeks.
You might not care about this because you don’t live in Britain, or you think social media should not allow the incitement of violence. After all, the ostensible reason for a recent riot was hate speech and misinformation on X.
But we have seen European, Australian, Canadian, and Brazilian governments all demand global censorship of social media platforms, and all of the social media platforms except for Elon Musk’s X have gone along with their demands.
Threat Of Joint US-UK Censorship Grows (public.news) (https://www.public.news/p/threat-of-joint-us-uk-censorship)
There is more to his comments but I am not a paid subscriber . But you get the idea. Free speech is threatened worldwide and Elon Musk stands as a bullwork against mass government censorship .
You see where it stands in the rest of the so called free world . Calling speech "hate speech" or " misinformation " justifies Orwellian censorship. Gone are the days of Brit author Evelyn Beatrice Hall who is quoted as saying I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
tomder55
Aug 12, 2024, 12:20 PM
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tomder55
Aug 13, 2024, 12:48 PM
Yesterday Musk interviewed Trump on X . Reports vary widely about how many streamed the live interview. It went for something like 3 hrs .
Prior to that ;upon hearing that the interview would take place Thierry Breton, a European Commissioner. sent a letter that the EU could take legal action against Musk and X because it could incite violence in Europe.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUy25PhXUAEDihB?format=jpg&name=900x900
This of course was nonsense and if official EU policy constituted election interference.
The EU back tracked today
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On Tuesday the European Commission denied that Breton had approval from its president Ursula von der Leyen to send the letter.“The timing and the wording of the letter were neither co-ordinated or agreed with the president nor with the [commissioners],” it said.
Brussels slaps down Thierry Breton over ‘harmful content’ letter to Elon Musk (ft.com) (https://www.ft.com/content/09cf4713-7199-4e47-a373-ed5de61c2afa)
I wonder . Just 1month ago the EU sued Musk .
tomder55
Aug 13, 2024, 01:38 PM
Musk is right. I was not planning on listening to a 3 hr interview between him and Trump . But the reaction of the compliant press is so negatively biased that I now have no choice but to take the time to see what all the fuss is about . btw . That is 3 hrs more time than Kam the Sham has had in sit down interviews . She even declined an invitation from Time Mag . Didn't matter 'they did a cover story puff piece about her anyway.
Elon Musk on X: "A wall of negative headlines was so predictable. They’re such NPCs All this does is drive even more people to listen to the conversation themselves and realize how much the legacy media lies to them!" / X (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823367936909951302)
tomder55
Aug 14, 2024, 02:13 AM
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tomder55
Aug 14, 2024, 03:25 AM
France is getting into the act. Trump made comments about a man boxing as a woman in the Olympics. The man ;Imane Khelif is suing
The lawsuit, filed on Friday with a special unit of the public prosecutor's office in Paris, stems from false statements that spread online about Khelif's gender identity after the Algerian boxer defeated Italian boxer Angela Carini in her first fight of the 2024 Olympic Games. Carini pulled out 46 seconds into the match and told reporters after the fight that she had "never felt a punch like this."
Trump 'Part of Investigation' in Boxer Imane Khelif's New Lawsuit: Report - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-part-investigation-boxer-imane-khelifs-new-lawsuit-report-1938890)
You see ;Trump made comments that he is a male. That is enough for the possibility of Trump being subject to extradition.
Variety also reported that author J.K. Rowling (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/j.k.-rowling) and billionaire and X owner Elon Musk (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/elon-musk) were mentioned in the lawsuit.
J.K. Rowling, Elon Musk Named in Imane Khelif's Cyberbullying Lawsuit (variety.com) (https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/)
Not surprising ;he won the gold medal .Another male posing as a female Lin Yu-Ting won the gold medal in his weight class.
jlisenbe
Aug 14, 2024, 05:04 AM
"I am suing you because you referred to me as a 'male'."
"Well, you have XY chromosomes don't you?"
"So? What does that have to do with my internal feelings?"
We live in a strange world that is becoming stranger by the moment. But this could all be settled fairly quickly by this person submitting to a medical exam to check out his/her genitalia. If the plumbing goes in and not out, then the issue would be settled.
tomder55
Aug 14, 2024, 08:36 AM
What is scary is the prospect of Trump or Musk being extradited for daring to state the obvious.
tomder55
Aug 17, 2024, 12:13 PM
looks like the Censorship Industrial Complex is all in for Kam the Sham .
Hackers rally behind Kamala Harris' presidential campaign (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/hackers-rally-kamala-harris-presidential-campaign-def-con-las-vegas-rcna165459?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)
tomder55
Aug 26, 2024, 03:05 AM
Flashback 2014
Russian founder of the platform 'Telegram' 'Pavel Durov, left Russia because Russia was censoring the site
Not long ago, Mr. Durov, 30, was seen as Russia’s Mark Zuckerberg. He founded a social network, VKontakte, which is more popular in Russia than Facebook, and made a splash by publicly offering Edward Snowden a job (http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/05/technology/social/snowden-vkontakte/).
Then the Kremlin tightened its grip over the Internet and President Vladimir V. Putin’s allies took control of VKontakte. Mr. Durov eventually sold his remaining stake for millions and fled Russia in April, after resisting government pressure to release the data of Ukrainian protest leaders.
Once Celebrated in Russia, the Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/technology/once-celebrated-in-russia-programmer-pavel-durov-chooses-exile.html)
But surprise surprise surprise. The west where he chose to emigrate has adopted authoritarian censorship. Instead of being arrested in Moscow, he has been arrested in France.
Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Arrested in Paris: French Media | TIME (https://time.com/7014659/authorities-arrest-telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-paris-airport-french-media/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=sfmc&utm_campaign=newsletter+brief+default+ac&utm_content=+++20240825+++body&et_rid=274615990&lctg=274615990)
The reported reason for his arrest is that his platform is being used as a vehicle for money laundering, drug trafficking and other offenses.
That's like saying Elon Musk should be arrested because someone used a Tesla to transport drugs .( ummmm don't give them any ideas Tom)
After leaving Russia he set up Telegram . It has been a venue popular by users who have been getting around the censorship of war news out of Russia and Ukraine . It is growing in popularity because it does not censor content .
Some would say that his real crime is not cooperating with the Censorship Industrial Complex .
Durov said in April some governments had sought to pressure him, but the app should remain a neutral platform and not a "player in geopolitics".
'I would rather be free than to take orders from anyone'.
Factbox-Who Is Pavel Durov, CEO of Messaging App Telegram? (usnews.com) (https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-08-24/factbox-who-is-pavel-durov-ceo-of-messaging-app-telegram)
tomder55
Sep 1, 2024, 04:19 AM
America First Legal (AFL) has filed two FOIA requests with the State Dept regarding the arrest of Pavel Durov in France. They claim the Joe-Kam administration had prior knowledge that the arrest was to be made.
April Durov was interviewed by Tucker Calrson. He said that the FBI attempted to have Telegram give them a backdoor to the site so they could spy on users .
Telegram Creator on Elon Musk, Resisting FBI Attacks, and Getting Mugged in California (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ut6RouSs0w)
With almost 1 billion users on the site.......
Telegram reports $400 million worth of crypto: report (yahoo.com) (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/telegram-reports-400-million-worth-203230270.html)
.......that would be a gold mine for snoops. To accomplish this Durov claims that they secretly tried to hire his engineer .
He also claims he was attacked in San Francisco when he was visiting Twitter founder Jack Dorsey. Now I don't necessarily connect that to anything except that anyone can be attacked in lawless San Francisco .
49ers' Ricky Pearsall shot in attempted robbery (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2024/08/31/ricky-pearsall-shot/75036536007/)
Flashback 1991 . Senator Clueless Joe introduced Senate Bill 266 'Comprehensive Counter-Terrorism Act of 1991'
In it was a section for electronic communication.
Subtitle B: Electronic Communications - Expresses the sense of the Congress that providers of electronic communications services and manufacturers of electronic communications service equipment should ensure that communications systems permit the Government to obtain the plain text contents of voice, data, and other communications when appropriately authorized by law.
S.266 - 102nd Congress (1991-1992): Comprehensive Counter-Terrorism Act of 1991 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/senate-bill/266)
That is the backdoor the FBI seeks . The Bill went nowhere . But that has not deterred the apparently now world wide Censorship Industrial Complex.
Cooperate and you can be as free as Zuckerberg . Don't cooperate risk the wrath of the deep state.
Brazil begins to block X as Elon Musk’s feud with judge deepens | CNN Business (https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/30/business/brazil-suspends-x-elon-musk-moraes-intl-hnk/index.html)
Elon Musk ordered to testify again in US SEC probe of Twitter takeover | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-federal-court-enforces-secs-subpoena-depose-elon-musk-2024-05-14/)
The Harassment of Elon Musk - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-biden-administration-justice-department-investigations-accdd84a)
The E.U. Is Investigating Elon Musk’s Platform X - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/technology/x-twitter-european-union-investigation.html)
Former Bubba Sec Labor Robert Reich lists ways to stop Musk . After boycotts he recommends lawfare intimidation including threats of arrest ;suits and contract terminations .
Elon Musk is out of control. Here is how to rein him in | Robert Reich | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/30/elon-musk-wealth-power)
It's happening in France .It's happening in Brazil . It is happening in Great Britain. It is happening in the EU . All have joined ranks with oppressive states that suppress free speech as a rule.
tomder55
Sep 9, 2024, 05:31 AM
Brazil is shutting down X (Twitter ) . They can get away with that because President Lulu Da Silva is an authoritarian.
But that can't happen here because we have free speech guaranteed ......right ?
Brazil also has that freedom codified in law.
“Any and all censorship of a political, ideological, and artistic nature is prohibited.”
WHAT IS? ARTISTIC FREEDOM? AND CENSORSHIP? - Emergency Agenda (laut.org.br) (https://agendadeemergencia.laut.org.br/en/liberdade-artistica/what-is-artistic-freedom-and-censorship/)
But that did not stop Lulu . Would our 1st amendment stop Kam the Sham from censoring ? Would it stop the deep state ?
Plenty of reasons have been given justifying the crack downs.....the Ruskies are coming.... national security...health crisis ...disinformation and on and on.
Meta (Fakebook ) CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted that the government coerced ; “repeatedly pressured” Fakebook to “covid content, including “humor and satire,” during the pandemic. He also went along with the deep state lies about Hunter's laptop (election influencing ) .
Mark Zuckerberg admits Biden admin pressured Facebook to censor COVID content, says it was wrong to suppress Hunter laptop coverage (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/mark-zuckerberg-admits-biden-admin-pressured-facebook-to-censor-covid-content-says-it-was-wrong-to-suppress-hunter-laptop-coverage/)
Originally I thought of him as a collaborator . But recent accusations by Telegram founder Pavel Durov that the US Censorship Industrial Complex tried to force their way into a back door of his site for the purpose of spying on it's users leads me to believe that Zuck may have been a hostage who is now trying to break free.
US Government Tried to Spy on People, Telegram Founder Claims - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/telegram-tucker-carlson-government-spying-1891398)
Zuck says he will never allow his companies to be held hostage again. Here's hoping. From a business perspective it makes sense. X is the go to news source on social media (Tik Tok is also but it is already compromised ) . Fakebook has become a place where geezers post family pictures .
Zuck stated that Trump defiantly pumping his fist and shouting 'Fight Fight !' was the most "bad A$$ " thing he had ever seen. Maybe it gave him courage to fight.
But what will Kam the Sham do if elected ? She is owned by the deep state. She has in the past threatened to violate constitutional guarantees through gun confiscation. Her running mate Tampon Tim said "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy."
We may see the Luluization of the US and the end of liberty . .
tomder55
Sep 17, 2024, 05:04 AM
Evita said this to Rachel Madcow yesterday .
I think it's important to indict the Russians, just as Mueller indicted a lot of Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda. And whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence, because the Russians are unlikely, except in a very few cases, to ever stand trial in the United States
Hillary Clinton: Americans Engaged In Propaganda Should Be Criminally Charged, "Would Be A Better Deterrence" | Video | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/16/hillary_clinton_americans_engaged_in_propaganda_sh ould_be_criminally_charged_would_be_a_better_deter rence.html)
Does Kam the Sham endorse this ?
This is prelude to world governance based on the principle of censorship of speech including a Chinese model wall around the net .
You think I exaggerate ? Censorship is happening all over the enslaved world and increasingly in the free world .
Brazil is criminally prosecuting Elon Musk and has seized his assets because he won't cooperate in their censorship .
Elon Musk's battle for free speech is getting expensive (yahoo.com) (https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-battle-free-speech-010848109.html#:~:text=Brazil%27s%20Supreme%20Cour t%20seized%20over,been%20reinstated%20after%20the% 20seizure.)
France arrested Pavel Durov over censorship issues.
Former Brit PM Tony Blair thinks the Right should be censored in Great Britain
From 2019
A new report for Blair’s think-tank, the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, says hard-right groups should be subjected to censorship even if they are not involved in any kind of violent activity. The report says the government should draw up a list of ‘designated hate groups’ — you mean a blacklist? — and these designated groups should be prevented from appearing in media outlets or engaging with public institutions.
Does Tony Blair think free speech isn't for everyone? | The Spectator (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/does-tony-blair-think-free-speech-isn-t-for-everyone/)
Tony Blair wants everyone to have a Digital ID - Chris Skinner's blog (thefinanser.com) (https://thefinanser.com/2024/09/tony-blair-wants-everyone-to-have-digital-id)
The Australian Labor government and other coalition parties are rushing to ram through political censorship bills in the final parliamentary sessions .
Albanese Government Acts Against Hatred And Violence | Mirage News (https://www.miragenews.com/albanese-government-acts-against-hatred-and-1314876/)
The proposed revisions would broadly define “social media services” to include any service that enables online social interaction between two or more people, allows people to connect with users on sites that allows them to post material , as well as search engines and app stores. They also want penalties of up to seven years in jail for “hate crimes.” They would also penalize on line companies up to 5% of revenues for allowing what they deem to be misinformation.
Here in the US the House Committee on Small Businesses called out the government use of taxpayer money to support censorship.
Their key findings
The Federal government has fueled a censorship ecosystem impacting not only individuals’ First Amendment rights, but the ability of certain small businesses to compete online.
The Federal government has funded, developed, and promoted entities that aim to demonetize news and information outlets because of their lawful speech, impacting domestic businesses’ operations, reputation, customer reach, and revenue.
The Global Engagement Center (GEC), an interagency body housed within the U.S. Department of State (State), circumvented its strict international mandate by funding, developing, then promoting tech start-ups and other small businesses in the disinformation detection space to private sector entities with domestic censorship capabilities. information is provided.
The National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a private non-profit funded almost entirely by Congressional appropriations, violated its international restrictions by collaborating with fact-checking entities in assessing domestic press businesses’ admission to a credibility organization.
house_committee_on_small_business_-_cic_report_september_2024.pdf (https://smallbusiness.house.gov/uploadedfiles/house_committee_on_small_business_-_cic_report_september_2024.pdf)
Their conclusion ;
The collaboration between the public and private sector to moderate certain content impacts not only the First Amendment rights of individuals, but the ability of businesses to compete in a free marketplace. This interference is especially harmful to small businesses, which need to be able to freely utilize all available avenues for growth. The ability to leverage various internet platforms is essential for competition in the modern marketplace. This manner of government interference results not only in economic harms, but also brushes up against foundational, Constitutional principles
jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2024, 05:13 AM
All of this must be resisted in a vigorous, freedom-loving, peaceful manner.
tomder55
Sep 30, 2024, 05:15 AM
The FCC is doing all they can to censor Americans . They have rubber stamped George Soros acquisition of the Audacy Radio broadcasting network that has 227 stations in 45 markets across the country . Many of the stations have talk format. (the station in my area is conservative talk ;and is to only one that does regular local news)
James Comer ;Chair of the Oversight Committee sent a letter of concern.
Despite the unprecedented nature of this action, the FCC majority has apparently decided to approve licenses on an accelerated timeframe for a company in which George Soros has a major ownership stake, and with stations in 40 media markets reaching ‘more than 165 million Americans,’” “By all appearances, the FCC majority isn’t just expediting, but is bypassing an established process to do a favor for George Soros and facilitate his influence over hundreds of radio stations before the November election.
Letter-to-FCC-re-Audacy-09262490.pdf (house.gov) (https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Letter-to-FCC-re-Audacy-09262490.pdf)
Meanwhile the government is still trying to take down Elon Musk over his purchase of Twitter .
Elon Musk Targeted By SEC Sanctions In Twitter Probe, Report Says (forbes.com) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/09/20/sec-planning-sanctions-against-elon-musk-after-missed-testimony-in-twitter-probe/)
jlisenbe
Sep 30, 2024, 05:44 AM
This is alarming since radio is the last stronghold for conservative thought. Print and electronic media have long since been swallowed up by liberals. Next thing you know, they'll want to take Tom off of AMHD!!
tomder55
Oct 1, 2024, 03:38 AM
Bill Gates wants AI to prescreen posts
End Wokeness on X: "Bill Gates wants the world to create an AI program that bans harmful speech: "For example, causing people to skip a vax" https://t.co/LnmfnQL4D4" / X (https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1840738265839685868)
tomder55
Oct 1, 2024, 11:08 AM
Now All Out Crazy is chiming in .
"You know, I do think that several members of Congress in some of my discussions have brought up media literacy, because that is a part of what happened here. And we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation. It's one thing to have differing opinions, but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false. And so that’s something that we’re looking into."
Another Prominent Democrat Calls for Censorship: AOC Calls for Reigning in Media Misinformation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwU_dsOGUBQ)
Next thing you know, they'll want to take Tom off of AMHD!!
They will have to pry my cold dead fingers from my laptop
tomder55
Oct 1, 2024, 11:14 AM
This is the true sentiment of the left
Is It Time to Torch the Constitution? | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/30/constitution-book-reviews-chemerinsky-pierson-schickler)
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tomder55
Oct 10, 2024, 03:00 PM
This was a month ago . There is no doubt about the future of free speech if Kam is elected .
We will direct Law Enforcement to counter this extremism. We will hold Social Media Platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms…because they have a responsibility to our Democracy…
Kamala Harris Pledges to Hold Social Media Platforms Accountable for Hate and Misinformation (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOcXkIBPx2o)
tomder55
Oct 19, 2024, 04:14 AM
This is not good news ;and it makes the stakes in this election higher than before. Elon Musk has caved into Brazil's demands to censor political opposition and remove them from X . I don't blame him . Our rights are supposed to be protected by the government . Clueless Joe-Kam the Sham have proven ;along with their party and many members of the compliant state (and unfortunately many members of the Repub leadership) that they are comfortable with signing up to the world wide censorship industrial complex.
Elon Musk’s X Backs Down in Brazil - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/21/world/americas/elon-musk-x-brazil.html)
They did this by not just going after X . They went after all his companies.
Another Musk-controlled company, the satellite-internet service Starlink, was also caught in the crossfire. Brazil’s Supreme Court took $2 million (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/13/world/americas/brazil-musk-x-starlink.html) from Starlink in Brazil to cover fines it had issued against X.
And that my friends is how the EU is going to go after him.
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Elon Musk could face a hefty fine as European regulators look at including revenues from the billionaire’s business empire to calculate a potential fine against social media platform X.Under the bloc’s Digital Services Act (DSA), a landmark piece of legislation aimed at setting the rules on how tech companies should police the internet, companies that fail to curb illegal content and disinformation face penalties of up to 6 per cent of their annual global turnover.
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The European Commission is considering whether revenue from Musk’s other businesses, such as SpaceX and Neuralink, should also be included, in a move that would dramatically increase the potential penalty.While no final decision has been made, the EU wants to impose fines that are high enough to prevent X from repeatedly breaking the law, said two people familiar with its thinking.
Got that ? 6 %of his revenue from all his companies if he doesn't block illegal content and disinformation.
What is illegal content and disinformation ?
That would be ANY content that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels deem is illegal.
The premise of the original post remains . Would Kam the Sham as President allow them to seize his assets ? Will she comply with extradition requests if they choose to go after him as a criminal ?
For that matter would a Kam administration protect your 1st amendment freedom of speech rights ? This is emerging as maybe the most important campaign issue of the elections . All the other major players already comply . Now it appears they have found a way to take Musk out IF the American government allows it . We may be next .
jlisenbe
Oct 19, 2024, 07:05 AM
If she gets in, then we are going to have to take to the streets.
tomder55
Oct 19, 2024, 07:50 AM
ZeroHedge says best what is at stake . Either we live in a world wide censorship state ;or if Trump wins ;the biggest US export to the world could be free speech rights .
What's very clear is that EU bureaucrats and radical Democrats in the US, including the Obama-Biden-Harris team, have pushed censorship campaigns under the guise of 'public safety' to silence and destroy political enemies. Dictators and demagogues usually use these tactics.
In the US, Musk has been hit with an obscene amount of lawfare by federal agencies under the Biden-Harris administration, such as the FAA slowing down SpaceX rocket launches or the FCC rejecting Starlink space internet in the US' rural internet program. This lawfare shows just how desperate Democrats have become - and that's because - if Trump wins, X becomes the primary source of news and narratives, which would entirely displace legacy MSM.
EU Bureaucrats Consider Targeting Elon Musk's Entire Empire Over X's 'Free Speech' | ZeroHedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/eu-bureaucrats-mull-over-targeting-elon-musks-empire-fines-over-x)
tomder55
Oct 19, 2024, 08:05 AM
Oh the irony .In a curious move ,Ron DeSantis attempted to use the censorship powers of the state to go after tv stations that air pro-baby killing ads. The State of Florida was sued and this week Federal Judge Mark Walker went against Florida . He wrote in his decision .
“The very purpose of the First Amendment is to foreclose public authority from assuming a guardianship of the public mind through regulating the press, speech, and religion.” Thomas v. Collins, 323 U.S. 516, 545 (1945) (Jackson, J., concurring). “In this field every person must be his own watchman for truth, because the forefathers did not trust any government to separate the true from the false for us.” Id. To keep it simple for the State of Florida: “It’s the First Amendment, stupid.”
gov.uscourts.flnd.527759.25.0.pdf (courtlistener.com) (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flnd.527759/gov.uscourts.flnd.527759.25.0.pdf)
Oh the irony!
tomder55
Oct 21, 2024, 07:21 AM
I did not know this. Evidently the Brit ruling Labour Party has such a stake in the US election outcome that they have operatives in the US assisting Kam the Sham's campaign.
UK Labour Party accused of foreign interference over campaigning on behalf of Kamala Harris | | coloradopolitics.com (https://www.coloradopolitics.com/uk-labour-party-accused-of-foreign-interference-over-campaigning-on-behalf-of-kamala-harris/article_a98697df-89f5-5cf0-bf57-ae7cff439929.html)
This is not in the closing days of the campaign . The Brits were at the DNC
Labour MPs to meet President Joe Biden as team flies to US with advice for Kamala Harris - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mps-meet-president-joe-33488602)
Keir Starmer's squad are at the Democratic National Convention in force: and this is why | The Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/kamala-harris-dnc-2024-labour-keir-starmer-b1177468.html)
Labour activists campaigning for Kamala Harris in US ‘likely to break electoral law’ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/10/18/labour-activists-travel-us-campaign-kamala-likely-break-law/)
UK Labour party's staff to campaign for Harris in battleground states sparks controversy (https://thehill.com/homenews/4941349-labor-party-trump-allies-criticize/)
Look at the timing . They have been campaigning for Kam the Sham since August . Then They start spouting out saying that they reserve the right to extradite people they accuse of violation their censorship laws .
jlisenbe
Oct 21, 2024, 08:21 AM
Being unalterably opposed to foreign interference as liberal dems are, I feel sure they will quash this at the earliest possible moment, like maybe the end of November?
The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election.
Sofia Patel, head of operations for the Labour Party, shared the plans via LinkedIn on Wednesday. She said current and former party staff will target key swing states such as North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia.
British Labour Party sending staff to campaign for Harris (baltimoresun.com) (https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/10/20/british-labour-party-sending-staff-to-campaign-for-harris-in-us-swing-states/)
tomder55
Oct 23, 2024, 03:42 AM
In August the Brits sent a campaign advisers for Kam the Sham Her name is Deborah Mattinson, a top advisor to PM Kier Starmer .
If I combine this story with the threat by Brit top prosecutor Stephen Parkinson that people who violate their censorship laws have "nowhere to hide" ;the only conclusion is that Kam will agree to comply with extradition requests of people like Elon Musk
Trump campaign files complaint over 'blatant foreign interference' by Labour Party in US election | US News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/trump-campaign-files-complaint-over-blatant-foreign-interference-by-labour-party-in-us-election-13238810)
tomder55
Oct 24, 2024, 03:42 AM
The Brits sent Starmer chief of staff Morgan McSweeney to the DNC in August . In his spare time he helped created the non-profit 'Center for Countering Digital Hate'.
The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a London-based advocacy group that targets accused “hate groups” and individuals for de-platforming campaigns to remove them from major social media outlets. The Center is best known for working with Rachel Riley to remove controversial far-right commentator Katie Hopkins from Twitter and conspiracy theorist David Icke from Facebook and Youtube.
In June 2020, the group launched a campaign that was promoted by NBC’s News Verification Unit against American conservative commentary website The Federalist, seeking to have Google (https://www.influencewatch.org/for-profit/google/) ban the site from its advertising platform.1 (https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/center-for-countering-digital-hate/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-25493)
CCDH has ties to the left-wing British Labour Party. The group’s founder, Imran Ahmed, is a former advisor to Labour Members of Parliament Hilary Benn and Angela Eagle. Board member Kristy McNeill is a former adviser to former Labour Party British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and former board member Morgan McSweeney resigned from the board to become chief of staff to Labour Party leader Keir Starmer.2 (https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/center-for-countering-digital-hate/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-25493)
Center for Countering Digital Hate - InfluenceWatch - InfluenceWatch (https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/center-for-countering-digital-hate/)
Note some of their "targets" .
Now there are leaked documents of collusion with Kam the Sham that portends the future of censorship under a Kam regime. Note there are as many as 100 Brit operatives sent to swing states to advise the Kam campaign.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaHt94UWQAAza4x?format=jpg&name=medium
At the top of the agenda for CCDH is "kill Musk's Twitter"
The documents raise serious questions about the intersection of nonprofit advocacy and political maneuvering. While CCDH markets itself as an anti-misinformation organization, the leak reveals a more politically motivated agenda. One of its top objectives is to “trigger EU and UK regulatory action” against platforms like Twitter, further blurring the line between its stated mission and its actions.
Leaked documents expose CCDH’s plan to ‘kill Musk’s Twitter’ ahead of U.S. election (https://tribune.com.pk/story/2504609/leaked-documents-expose-ccdhs-plan-to-kill-musks-twitter-ahead-of-us-election)
But their program of censorship goes much further than get Musk
But in a recent and thus far unpublished conversation with me, Imran Ahmed, a former Parliamentary aide who also co-founded the CCDH and serves as its chief executive, said a number of things that free speech advocates less radical than Elon Musk may find worrying.
He spoke of his “five-year plan” to make social media platforms “accountable” for their content, and to make it impossible for anyone to generate revenue from what the CCDH classes as “hate speech”. By this term, Ahmed doesn’t just mean overt expressions of racism or other prejudices, but rather what he calls “lies” and “disinformation”. In his view, “lies and hate are inextricably linked.”
What’s more, a glance at the CCDH website (https://counterhate.com/) will confirm that its definition of lies is unusually expansive. It includes, for example, “the new climate denial” — not denial per se of the proposition that human beings and the greenhouse gases we emit cause global warming, but challenges to Government policies that are supposedly going to fix it.
Inside the Center for Countering Digital Hate's plan to 'kill' X - UnHerd (https://unherd.com/newsroom/inside-the-center-for-countering-digital-hates-plan-to-kill-x/)
McSweeney helped Starmer win by running the same kind of 'Trojan Horse ' campaign that Kam is running where she is trying to out Maga Trump (adopting positions he has taken in his political career )
McSweeney is an ascendant figure, having just been promoted to Starmer’s Chief of Staff (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0l9z7qv0lo) in something of a palace coup after the abrupt resignation of longtime Labour fixture Sue Gray (https://unherd.com/2024/10/who-killed-sue-gray/). McSweeney is lionized, not just for a Carville-style rightward tilt within the party, but for mastery of fundraising and dark money, having reportedly (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/18/donors-and-starmers-suits-thats-just-a-dress-rehearsal-without-new-probity-rules-worse-will-follow) pulled a host of new wealthy donors to Labour in the last two years.
After 25 years of the “special relationship” being essentially “one-way traffic,” with Washington politicos advising the Brits, the Democrats “now believe they actually have something to learn from Labour,” as (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%E2%80%9Cnow+believe+they+actually+have+somethin g+to+learn+from+Labour%2C%E2%80%9D&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)Politico (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%E2%80%9Cnow+believe+they+actually+have+somethin g+to+learn+from+Labour%2C%E2%80%9D&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)explained (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%E2%80%9Cnow+believe+they+actually+have+somethin g+to+learn+from+Labour%2C%E2%80%9D&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8). Democrats will supposedly learn from Labour’s tactical brilliance. For example, Starmer countered former Conservative PM Rishi Sunak’s accusations of being soft on immigration by promising to “smash the criminal boat gangs (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/06/forget-stop-the-boats-starmer-wants-to-smash-the-gangs-but-will-it-work)” bringing migrants across the English channel.
Election Exclusive: British Advisors to Kamala Harris Hope to "Kill Musk's Twitter" (https://disinformationchronicle.substack.com/p/election-exclusive-british-advisors)
The Dems for their part want their version of ‘Safety, Transparency, Accountability and Responsibility’, (STAR ) legislation passed .
STAR Framework — Center for Countering Digital Hate | CCDH (https://counterhate.com/research/star-framework/)
Senator Amy Klobuchar has introduced legislation for the American version of STAR that would impose 'consequences for harmful content' .
The SAFE Tech Act Wouldn't Make the Internet Safer for Users | Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/02/safe-tech-act-wouldnt-make-internet-safer-users)
the goal of this change is to stop Section 230 from applying to ads, “ensuring that platforms cannot continue to profit as their services are used to target vulnerable consumers with ads enabling frauds and scams.”
What they really want is an American law with the power the EU has taken to criminalize speech they don't agree with by at a minimum placing a fine of 6% of revenue on an offender.
tomder55
Oct 25, 2024, 03:28 AM
Brit political writer warns "The British are coming "
And not any old Brits. Not the nice ones who will ask for Earl Grey tea instead of coffee and say “Gosh!” when they see your skyscrapers.
No, the smuggest, most maddening of my countrymen are on their way.
Our most insufferable blowhards are crossing the pond to pester and badger the free men and women of the United States.
It’s an invasion of the snobs. They’re probably giving their index fingers a workout as we speak, all the better to wag them in your faces as they berate you for your “stupidity.”
Flail, Britannia — woke UK activists ride to Kamala's rescue (https://nypost.com/2024/10/24/opinion/flail-britannia-woke-uk-activists-ride-to-kamalas-rescue/)
jlisenbe
Oct 27, 2024, 09:00 PM
You can't make this stuff up.
'MAGA' dress designer forced to remove Trump signs from business, residence when 'Karen' called the police.
Andre Soriano, designer of infamous 'MAGA' dress Joy Villa wore to the 2017 Grammys, was forced to remove Trump signs outside of Virginia storefront."
"As an American citizen, as a First Amendment in our great nation, you can express yourself by putting your signs in your home and expressing who you are as an individual, whether it’s religion, whether it’s politics or anything that you feel, without harming anyone," Soriano said. "That's just the freedom of artistic expression and being free in America, and nowadays, you can't even express that."
Soriano and Johnson live in the residences above the store. After being cited by the city to remove the Trump-supporting signs (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump) from the business, they suspended them from their homes, despite having been hung for years prior to the incident.
'MAGA' dress designer forced to remove Trump signs from business, residence when 'Karen' called the police | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maga-dress-designer-forced-remove-trump-signs-from-business-residence-when-karen-called-police)
tomder55
Oct 28, 2024, 04:39 AM
The censorship definitely is happening . I have posted about Bernard-Henri Levy many times on these pages. He is a French Jewish liberal philosopher author who travelled the US to recreate Alexis de Tocqueville's famous journey and observations about life in the US 'Democracy In America' .
He has written many books . His latest ; “Israel Alone” has been censored by his publisher. He writes in WSJ
he thought of his “partners” and worried that the ad would “cause them trouble they haven’t asked for and don’t wish to have.” Bookstore “employees” would go to “the management” insisting that “we don’t support this,” and “customers” would “complain” too. “Our partners trust us to protect them from those kinds of situations.”
At first I was stunned. I found it hard to believe that a book of reflection, written by a philosopher, could be blacklisted simply because of the presence of the word “Israel” on its cover. I found it almost unbelievable that the name Israel can become unspeakable in a part of this great country, which since the Holocaust has been the second homeland for Jews, and whose brave soldiers liberated Auschwitz 80 years ago.
But here we are. It seems that no Jewish author, no one remotely connected to Judaism, is safe from this kind of exclusion
My First Censorship Experience - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/opinion/my-first-censorship-experience-israel-book-ad-rejected-im-going-on-us-campus-tour-40753e8e?mod=opinion_lead_pos7)
jlisenbe
Oct 28, 2024, 09:46 AM
Shared that one on Facebook.
tomder55
Oct 28, 2024, 12:44 PM
The same magazine that black listed the ad for Levi's book; 'Shelf Awareness ; promoted a children's book' P Is for Palestine '. It is an alphabet recital . When it gets to I the word is "intifada.....defined as "rising up for what is right, whether you are a kid or a grownup!” .
P IS FOR PALESTINE: A CHILDREN'S ALPHABET BOOK READ ALONG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKCT6LfCgQ)
The two intifadas by Palestinians cost them above 5,000 dead and over a thousand Israelis.
But that's not all .The same magazine promotes 'The killing of Gaza ' by Gideon Levy who promotes the 'one state solution'......because Jewish settlers killed the idea of a 2 state solution.
The magazine promotes the book in a section called 'Best books reviewed .'
Shelf Awareness for Readers for Friday, October 18, 2024 | Shelf Awareness (https://shelf-awareness.com/sar-issue.html?issue=1252#m24634)