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tomder55
Jul 22, 2024, 03:08 PM
If Kam the Sham is the Dem nominee you will hear a lot about 1st Black Female candidate for President . It is a Dem obsession to get the first this or the first that for any position elected or appointed . The fact that she would be the first Black Female is one of least important qualifications for the job.

This is an issue that was brought up in 1960 by candidate John F Kennedy . If he were elected he would be the first Catholic President . Al Smith had failed in 1928 against Hoover and again in the Dem primaries in 1932 against FDR where anti-Catholic bias had played a role.

Flashback 1960 JFK accepts the Dem nomination He put the issue of identity politics to bed ..... or at least it was hoped so .



I hope that no American—I hope that no American, considering the really critical issues facing this country, will waste his franchise and throw away his vote by voting either for me or against me solely because of my religious affiliation. It is not relevant.
I am telling you now what you are entitled to know: As I come before you seeking your support for the most powerful office in the free world, I am saying to you that my decisions on every public policy will be my own—as an American, a Democrat and as a free man.
I mention all of this only because this country faces so many serious challenges, so many great opportunities, so many burdensome responsibilities, that I hope it is to those great matters that we can address ourselves in the coming months.


Address Accepting the Democratic Nomination for President at the Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, California | The American Presidency Project (ucsb.edu) (https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/address-accepting-the-democratic-nomination-for-president-the-memorial-coliseum-los)

The question for 2024 . Will the Dems reject or embrace identity politics ? As in 1960 the issues facing the nation are too challenging to vote for or against a candidate on such a shallow premise as gender or race.

jlisenbe
Jul 22, 2024, 06:55 PM
They will have to embrace it with Harris since there is nothing else to appeal to.

Curlyben
Jul 23, 2024, 11:52 AM
S'ok as the Republicans have the first convicted felon running for them.

jlisenbe
Jul 23, 2024, 12:16 PM
Democrat party strategy

Bring spurious and vague charges against Trump, and then want to claim he is a "convicted felon". And all this while the two individuals who are genuinely guilty of felonies are the last two democrat candidates in Hillary and Joe Biden. One was not prosecuted since the FBI director declined to press charges after her husband met with the sitting AG in private for thirty minutes three days earlier. Mr. Biden is not being prosecuted because his own justice department decided he would not be cognitively able to defend himself.

Anyone want to vote for a political setup being carried out?

tomder55
Jul 23, 2024, 12:19 PM
Nelson Mandella was in jail for almost 30 years before he became President of South Africa. Nehru spent a decade behind bars before becoming India's PM Michelle Bachelet was in prison and was tortured before becoming President of Chile.

The question is what is he convicted for ? The answer is he is convicted of a patchwork of crimes cobbled together by a prosecutor from an opposing political party who campaigned on the premise that he would find a crime to get Trump . Trump's conviction will be overturned at the end of the day when it goes through the appeals process .

Meanwhile they conveniently have a former law enforcer running against a "convicted felon." It's almost as if they planned it that way.

Curlyben
Jul 23, 2024, 12:27 PM
Nelson Mandella was in jail for almost 30 years before he became President of South Africa. Nehru spent a decade behind bars before becoming India's PM Michelle Bachelet was in prison and was tortured before becoming President of Chile.

The question is what is he convicted for ? The answer is he is convicted of a patchwork of crimes cobbled together by a prosecutor from an opposing political party who campaigned on the premise that he would find a crime to get Trump . Trump's conviction will be overturned at the end of the day when it goes through the appeals process .

Meanwhile they conveniently have a former law enforcer running against a "convicted felon." It's almost as if they planned it that way.

Sorry I meant US felon, but shouldn't really need to qualify.

It's all a joke on both sides really.
As I've said before, there really should be an age limit involved when running for government.
Biden was too old when he was elected, as is Trump now.
They are both an embarrassment, the whole process is becoming more and more like a point scoring circus.
Kind of childish, for "leaders of the free word"

tomder55
Jul 23, 2024, 01:32 PM
I agree with the age limit . Here is what I would propose ; the age of eligibility for a President is 36 yrs old. Double that . 72 should be the oldest age for a President's final term .

jlisenbe
Jul 23, 2024, 08:25 PM
I don't like an age limit. Next we will want an IQ limit. It is better to have a relatively smart electorate who knows better than to elect a man who is clearly cognitively deficient. An honest and unbiased news media would also be helpful.

tomder55
Jul 23, 2024, 10:30 PM
None of us know what the future mental health of a President will be. Age is the only thing close to a reliable indicator.

Clearly the 25th amendment is not a safeguard ;nor is a ridiculously long election weeding out process .

This informed electorate is apparently not a sufficient safeguard either . All these people creaming over Kam the Sham yesterday have not spent 5 seconds thinking about where she stands or her past performance. This informed electorate treats the vote like selecting someone on a reality tv show.

Anyway it is not going to happen as it would require an amendment to the Constitution.

jlisenbe
Jul 24, 2024, 07:34 AM
Age is the only thing close to a reliable indicator.

We know Mr. Biden is mentally impaired by watching and listening to him. Having a reliable indicator is not the problem. The problem is a dishonest media and a dishonest democrat party that worked together to assure us otherwise.


This informed electorate is apparently not a sufficient safeguard either. If that is the case, then there are no laws that can protect us.

tomder55
Jul 24, 2024, 08:01 AM
We know Mr. Biden is mentally impaired by watching and listening to him. Having a reliable indicator is not the problem.

and then what ? Nothing could've forced him out of office . As it is nothing is forcing him out of office . Unless he kicks the bucket we have a veg for Prez until the end of January .

Let's say Trump is elected and starts to decline in his 2nd term. Same thing ;wild horses could not drag him out .

The dam can break in someone's head anytime . But we know that the rigors and demands of the office can make a vigorous person prematurely old.

And yeah about that informed electorate.... look at the orgasmic reaction to Kam being the frontrunner . I have yet to hear any of her accolytes discuss record or policy . Meanwhile she is on the trail promising $trillions more in gimmees.

Harris plans to finish Biden's progressive agenda (axios.com) (https://www.axios.com/2024/07/24/harris-biden-finish-progressive-agenda)