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tomder55
Jun 8, 2024, 03:48 AM
July 24 will be the 50th anniversary of the day SCOTUS rejected President Nixon's claim of executive privilege as an excuse for not handing over tapes to Congressional investigators that he recorded in the Oval Office . He had previously made available redacted transcripts . But the investigators wanted to hear the tapes. He surrendered the tapes. 16 days later he resigned after the tapes revealed his involvement in the Watergate cover up .

Fast forward to today .

President Quid Pro Joe is refusing to hand over tapes of his interviews with Special Council Robert Hur which were done while Hur investigated Joe's stealing classified documents while he was a Senator. These documents were found at various locations that included his garage. He has already given Congressional investigators redacted transcripts of the tapes. Like 50 years ago ;the investigators want to hear the original tapes . Like 50 years ago he is claiming executive privilege .

It is important for them to hear the originals because Hur argued when he decided to not charge Quid ;even as Trump has been indicted for documents he retained ;because Quid is a feeble old man plagued with memory loss ;and no reasonable jury would convict him (which is not Hur's place to determine anyway).

The transcripts do not give evidence to this claim. The investigators would need to hear them to determine if Quid is functioning in a mentally diminished state .

Besides Congress there are a slew of legal and news organizations who have sued under FOIA to get access to the tapes. These include major news organizations of the compliant press .

The White House has refused to date to comply with a dozen FOIA requests and Congressional subpoenas arguing that the transcripts are already public. The also added in an absurd argument that if they made the tapes public there was a chance someone could use them as AI generated "deep fakes" . Cross referencing them with the transcripts should solve that problem IF the transcripts are truthful reproductions .
The White House is so fearful of the tapes being released that they are willing to subject the Attorney General to contempt of Congress charges.

Turns out there is good reason to suspect altering of the transcripts . The White House already admitted to that .

Biden Transcript Is Inaccurate! | Judicial Watch (https://www.judicialwatch.org/biden-transcript-is-inaccurate/)


Oversight Project on X: "🚨WHITE HOUSE ADMITS THEY DOCTORED BIDEN’S CRIMINAL TRANSCRIPT🚨 After being forced into Federal court by us, the White House admits they altered evidence to make Biden appear less incompetent This case has been blown wide open https://t.co/5xtIsPcVTV" / X (https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1796744929634287809)

This is not the first time they have lied about the interviews.
The compliant press argued that Quid was angry that Hur quizzed him about the date of Beau Biden's death . His allies went on the offensive. Jill Biden put out fund raiser based on the false narrative.

First lady asks if son’s death was used for political points – NBC New York (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/first-lady-questions-whether-special-counsel-referenced-sons-death-to-score-political-points/5126300/#:~:text=son%20Beau%20died.-,%E2%80%9DWe%20should%20give%20everyone%20grace%2C %20and%20I%20can%27t,you%20measure%20it%20in%20gri ef.%22)

Yes I said false narrative because Hur did not bring up Beau Biden. Quid did (thanks the random act of journalism from NBC)

Biden attacked Hur for asking him when Beau died. That didn't happen, sources say. (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/biden-attacked-hur-asking-beau-died-didnt-happen-sources-say-rcna138709)

Invoking Beau Biden's death ;and family tragedy is a continuous fall back tool of Quid.



“How in the hell dare he raise that?” Biden told reporters in an impromptu White House press conference. “Frankly, when I was asked the question, I thought to myself, it wasn’t any of their damn business.”

But Hur never asked that question, according to two people familiar with Hur’s five-hour interview with the president over two days last October. It was the president, not Hur or his team, who first introduced Beau Biden’s death, they said.
Biden raised his son’s death after being asked about his workflow at a Virginia rental home from 2016 to 2018, the sources said, when a ghost writer was helping him write a memoir about losing Beau to brain cancer in 2015. Investigators had a 2017 recording showing that Biden had told the ghost writer he had found “classified stuff” in that home, the report says.
Biden began trying to recall that period by discussing what else was happening in his life, and it was at that point in the interview that he appeared confused about when Beau died, the sources said. Biden got the date — May 30 — correct, but not the year.


The only way for Quid to disprove Hur's contention that Quid suffered serious mental lapses would be for Quid to release the tapes in full.
His only reason for not doing so is because he is hiding the truth.

tomder55
Jul 25, 2024, 04:43 AM
The Justice Dept had denied it had transcripts of recordings of interviews between Quid Pro Joe and his biographer.

But now that Quid had dropped out of the race ;the transcripts have magically appeared.

Feds discover transcripts of Biden chats with biographer - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/23/biden-hur-biographer-transcripts-00170548)

Funny how cooperative they can be when they are not running cover . They will no longer stonewall FOIA requests .

HeritageHurZwonitzerFlg072224 - DocumentCloud (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24946585-heritagehurzwonitzerflg072224)

tomder55
Dec 25, 2024, 06:51 AM
............ Hur argued when he decided to not charge Quid ;even as Trump has been indicted for documents he retained ;because Quid is a feeble old man plagued with memory loss ;and no reasonable jury would convict him (which is not Hur's place to determine anyway).

Let's call this the Biden defense. It is now being used in other cases.

Former CEO Abercrombie &Fitch Michael Jeffries and cohorts are charged with running a male prostitution and sex trafficking scheme. They lured young men with dreams of becoming models. Instead they pimped them out at sex events .

Here is part of the indictment .


On more than one occasion, Jeffries and Smith directed others to inject, or personally injected, men with an erection-inducing substance for the purpose of causing the men to engage in sex acts the men were incapable or unwilling to engage in.


Nice guys.

The problem is that Jeffries is a geezer . His lawyer is using the Biden defense.

Lawyers for ex-Abercrombie CEO Michael Jeffries say dementia may leave him incompetent to face sex charges (https://nypost.com/2024/12/25/us-news/lawyers-for-ex-abercrombie-ceo-michael-jeffries-say-dementia-may-leave-him-incompetent-to-face-sex-charges/)

I got 10 years to go before I hit 80 something. I'll keep that in mind if I get pulled over for a traffic violation.
Maybe if I'm old and feeble minded enough I can run for office and really cash in.

tomder55
May 20, 2025, 05:13 AM
Now that the tapes are available ;yet it shows Joe's mental state. However there were clear lies he said that could've easily gone to obstruction of justice and perjury charges .

The truth is that a case could be made for a President to retain records since he decides what is classified . There is no case for a Senator or VP to do the same. Joe said he kept them for posterity .That sounded pretty clear minded to me .
Joe said all he had was in file cabinets in his home . False They were scattered in his garage and removed to his offices at Penn State .
Joe said he did not retain "highly classified docs . That was a lie .
Joe denied bragging about them to his ghost writer . That was a lie

All the mumbles and convenient pauses and forgetting the day Beau died or when he left office is secondary .

Hur's obligation was to present the facts to the Attorney General and a Grand Jury to let them decide how to proceed .