tomder55
May 28, 2024, 05:20 AM
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It's a shocking revelation that even the die-hards of the green new steal can no longer deny .
You want more Electric Vehicles ? You need more electricity . One EV uses the same daily consumption as your daily usage for computers, lights and heating and air conditioning. To get the alleged environmental benefits of EVs ;that added energy has to come from renewables. Usage fluctuates during the day . You've heard of peak usage and how some areas of the country have to have rolling brown and black outs .
Rotating Outages (pge.com) (https://www.pge.com/en/outages-and-safety/outage-preparedness-and-support/understanding-electric-outages/rotating-outages.html)
Imagine if say all the commuters in LA LA land tried to recharge their EVs to drive home at that same time . Imagine a time when the only cars on the road are EV's mandated by law .
The "experts " say it can be done.
Can the Nation's Electrical Grid Support Electric Cars? | U.S. News (usnews.com) (https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/features/can-the-nations-electrical-grid-support-electric-cars)
But that's not all.
We are trying to repatriate manufacturing back to the US. Much of the focus is on semiconductors . We need more power just to catch up to where we once were in the market share.
One of the biggest users of energy in the future will be AI chips . Elon Musk thinks there will be a shortage of available energy by next year .
The idea that the developed world's lights will begin flickering in 2025 because there are so many AIs being trained is pretty remarkable, and if Musk is right, it greatly underscores the need for massive amounts of clean energy, from a variety of different sources, yesterday.
Elon Musk: AI will run out of electricity and transformers in 2025 (newatlas.com) (https://newatlas.com/technology/elon-musk-ai/)
All told, grid planners across the U.S. forecast an increase of 38 gigawatts of peak demand by 2028, according to data reported to federal regulators — a pace of growth that will be hard to keep up with. Data centers and factories can be built in a few years, but it takes four years or more to build new power plants, and up to a decade or longer to build new transmission lines.
Suddenly, US electricity demand is spiking. Can the… | Canary Media (https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/transmission/suddenly-us-electricity-demand-is-spiking-can-the-grid-keep-up)
The facts speak for themselves .EVERY AI chip uses as much energy as 3 EVs
A.I. Could Soon Need as Much Electricity as an Entire Country - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/climate/ai-could-soon-need-as-much-electricity-as-an-entire-country.html)
US electric utilities brace for surge in power demand from data centers | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-electric-utilities-brace-surge-power-demand-data-centers-2024-04-10/#:~:text=Longer%20term%20power%20demand%20from,ove r%2035%20GW%20by%202030.)
Nvidia's H100 GPUs will consume more power than some countries — each GPU consumes 700W of power, 3.5 million are expected to be sold in the coming year | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) (https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nvidias-h100-gpus-will-consume-more-power-than-some-countries-each-gpu-consumes-700w-of-power-35-million-are-expected-to-be-sold-in-the-coming-year)
The above was a slight underestimate. Nvidia sold nearly 5 million chips .
“There’s a fundamental mismatch between this technology and environmental sustainability,” de Vries said. Recently, the world’s most prominent A.I. cheerleader, Sam Altman, the C.E.O. of OpenAI, voiced similar concerns, albeit with a different spin. “I think we still don’t appreciate the energy needs of this technology,” Altman said at a public appearance in Davos. He didn’t see how these needs could be met, he went on, “without a breakthrough.” He added, “We need fusion or we need, like, radically cheaper solar plus storage, or something, at massive scale—like, a scale that no one is really planning for.”
The Obscene Energy Demands of A.I. | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-obscene-energy-demands-of-ai)
It's a shocking revelation that even the die-hards of the green new steal can no longer deny .
You want more Electric Vehicles ? You need more electricity . One EV uses the same daily consumption as your daily usage for computers, lights and heating and air conditioning. To get the alleged environmental benefits of EVs ;that added energy has to come from renewables. Usage fluctuates during the day . You've heard of peak usage and how some areas of the country have to have rolling brown and black outs .
Rotating Outages (pge.com) (https://www.pge.com/en/outages-and-safety/outage-preparedness-and-support/understanding-electric-outages/rotating-outages.html)
Imagine if say all the commuters in LA LA land tried to recharge their EVs to drive home at that same time . Imagine a time when the only cars on the road are EV's mandated by law .
The "experts " say it can be done.
Can the Nation's Electrical Grid Support Electric Cars? | U.S. News (usnews.com) (https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/features/can-the-nations-electrical-grid-support-electric-cars)
But that's not all.
We are trying to repatriate manufacturing back to the US. Much of the focus is on semiconductors . We need more power just to catch up to where we once were in the market share.
One of the biggest users of energy in the future will be AI chips . Elon Musk thinks there will be a shortage of available energy by next year .
The idea that the developed world's lights will begin flickering in 2025 because there are so many AIs being trained is pretty remarkable, and if Musk is right, it greatly underscores the need for massive amounts of clean energy, from a variety of different sources, yesterday.
Elon Musk: AI will run out of electricity and transformers in 2025 (newatlas.com) (https://newatlas.com/technology/elon-musk-ai/)
All told, grid planners across the U.S. forecast an increase of 38 gigawatts of peak demand by 2028, according to data reported to federal regulators — a pace of growth that will be hard to keep up with. Data centers and factories can be built in a few years, but it takes four years or more to build new power plants, and up to a decade or longer to build new transmission lines.
Suddenly, US electricity demand is spiking. Can the… | Canary Media (https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/transmission/suddenly-us-electricity-demand-is-spiking-can-the-grid-keep-up)
The facts speak for themselves .EVERY AI chip uses as much energy as 3 EVs
A.I. Could Soon Need as Much Electricity as an Entire Country - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/climate/ai-could-soon-need-as-much-electricity-as-an-entire-country.html)
US electric utilities brace for surge in power demand from data centers | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-electric-utilities-brace-surge-power-demand-data-centers-2024-04-10/#:~:text=Longer%20term%20power%20demand%20from,ove r%2035%20GW%20by%202030.)
Nvidia's H100 GPUs will consume more power than some countries — each GPU consumes 700W of power, 3.5 million are expected to be sold in the coming year | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) (https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nvidias-h100-gpus-will-consume-more-power-than-some-countries-each-gpu-consumes-700w-of-power-35-million-are-expected-to-be-sold-in-the-coming-year)
The above was a slight underestimate. Nvidia sold nearly 5 million chips .
“There’s a fundamental mismatch between this technology and environmental sustainability,” de Vries said. Recently, the world’s most prominent A.I. cheerleader, Sam Altman, the C.E.O. of OpenAI, voiced similar concerns, albeit with a different spin. “I think we still don’t appreciate the energy needs of this technology,” Altman said at a public appearance in Davos. He didn’t see how these needs could be met, he went on, “without a breakthrough.” He added, “We need fusion or we need, like, radically cheaper solar plus storage, or something, at massive scale—like, a scale that no one is really planning for.”
The Obscene Energy Demands of A.I. | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-obscene-energy-demands-of-ai)