tomder55
May 14, 2024, 05:51 PM
The question is asked
OK, Tom. I'm sitting here in amazement. I have just learned that congressional districts are apportioned based on total population, legal AND illegals. If we look looked at citizens only, it would result in a gain of about 20 House seats for repubs. I find that to be astonishing. Is that your understanding for this thing???
Art 1 Sec 2 says
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years
The clause originally excluded Native Americans and had a 3/5 clause for slaves. It says nothing about a citizen requirement . Then again it doesn't necessarily prohibit one either .
This is one of the main reasons Dems want open borders.
When conservatives are smeared as being racist advocates of a 'replacement theory ' the assumption is that the concern is minorities replacing whites . But the Dems hardly mask their desire to change the political landscape by flooding the nation with immigration.
The maximum number of Reps has been fixed at 435 since 1929. States that gain population faster than others get additional representatives after a census , and those whose populations grow less quickly or decline will lose representatives. This is also true of the total numbers of electors a state gets ;and how tax $ gets apportioned among the states .
Blue states have benefitted from this for years . There has been a bit of a reversal due to migration to red states . But it certainly explains why the Dems love the "sanctuary " concept .
(1) Greg Abbott on X: "Congresswoman from New York explains why she supports illegal immigration: "I need more people in my district JUST FOR REDISTRICTING PURPOSES.” These Democrats are looking out for themselves, not for America." / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1744897632651116550?lang=en)
Question ; when the framers authored the Constitution was there an assumption that a "person" was a citizen ? Would a congressional act defining a person counted has to be a citizen for the purpose of apportionment be constitutional ?
Case law favors the concept that every person in the state is counted for apportionment
It is my belief that Congress could act and it would survive judicial review.
Hagerty bill would put citizenship question on census, stop non-citizens being counted for redistricting | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-bill-would-put-citizenship-question-census-stop-non-citizens-being-counted-redistricting)
OK, Tom. I'm sitting here in amazement. I have just learned that congressional districts are apportioned based on total population, legal AND illegals. If we look looked at citizens only, it would result in a gain of about 20 House seats for repubs. I find that to be astonishing. Is that your understanding for this thing???
Art 1 Sec 2 says
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years
The clause originally excluded Native Americans and had a 3/5 clause for slaves. It says nothing about a citizen requirement . Then again it doesn't necessarily prohibit one either .
This is one of the main reasons Dems want open borders.
When conservatives are smeared as being racist advocates of a 'replacement theory ' the assumption is that the concern is minorities replacing whites . But the Dems hardly mask their desire to change the political landscape by flooding the nation with immigration.
The maximum number of Reps has been fixed at 435 since 1929. States that gain population faster than others get additional representatives after a census , and those whose populations grow less quickly or decline will lose representatives. This is also true of the total numbers of electors a state gets ;and how tax $ gets apportioned among the states .
Blue states have benefitted from this for years . There has been a bit of a reversal due to migration to red states . But it certainly explains why the Dems love the "sanctuary " concept .
(1) Greg Abbott on X: "Congresswoman from New York explains why she supports illegal immigration: "I need more people in my district JUST FOR REDISTRICTING PURPOSES.” These Democrats are looking out for themselves, not for America." / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1744897632651116550?lang=en)
Question ; when the framers authored the Constitution was there an assumption that a "person" was a citizen ? Would a congressional act defining a person counted has to be a citizen for the purpose of apportionment be constitutional ?
Case law favors the concept that every person in the state is counted for apportionment
It is my belief that Congress could act and it would survive judicial review.
Hagerty bill would put citizenship question on census, stop non-citizens being counted for redistricting | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-bill-would-put-citizenship-question-census-stop-non-citizens-being-counted-redistricting)