View Full Version : Why do we listen to her?
jlisenbe
Oct 13, 2022, 07:05 PM
She is, I think, about 20 years old and has never really accomplished anything of note, and yet people seem to look to her in making policy decisions. Why?
Climate activist Greta Thunberg argued against taking Germany's remaining nuclear power plants (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/disasters/nuclear) offline, an apparent reversal on an energy source she has previously said she is against.
"I personally think it's a very bad idea to focus on coal when [nuclear power] is already in place," Thunberg told German public television Tuesday, according to a Deutsche Welle report.
The comments come as Germany and other European countries grapple with an energy crisis amid Russia's ongoing war in Ukraine, with most of the continent cut off from Russian natural gas they were previously dependent on for energy.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/greta-thunberg-reverses-course-nuclear-power-argues-germany-making-mistake-taking-plants-offline?dicbo=v2-114c7fb700b913fe789b97121cf61dda
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 04:20 AM
Why ? Because not listening to her makes one an ableist . Her positions cannot be challenged because she is autistic .
The Attacks Against Greta Thunberg is Ableism at its Most Visible – The Sophian (https://thesophian.com/the-attacks-against-greta-thunberg-is-ableism-at-its-most-visible/)
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 10:52 AM
The loons are out in force. A couple of dweebs who have a bug up their arse about oil threw tomato soup all over Van Gogh's 'Sunflowers' at the London National Gallery . Then one of them that sounded like a Greta clone went into an incoherent rant
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 11:09 AM
Her rant was VERY coherent, very clearly stated. "There is some minor damage to the frame but the painting is unharmed,” police said.
Please stop dissing autism. You have no idea what you're talking about.
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 11:16 AM
vanadalism against art is an attack on civilization Her rant was absurd ;a lame justification for the attempted destruction of art . I see her act as no different than the Taliban destruction of the Budda at Bamyan .
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 11:27 AM
The artwork was not harmed.
Speaking of an attack on civilization, good thing no one has ever climbed the walls of the Capitol building, broken its windows, vandalized and even destroyed objects inside, plus pooped and peed on the floors and walls.
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 12:35 PM
The artwork was not harmed. Their intent was to damage it .
Speaking of an attack on civilization, good thing no one has ever climbed the walls of the Capitol building, broken its windows, vandalized and even destroyed objects inside, plus pooped and peed on the floors and walls.
or did 1-2 billion of $$ in damages in cities around the country ;vandalizing countless buildings torching buildings including an attempt at torching a Federal courthouse while blockading exits . The City of Portland was under siege for months by the Dem enabled Antifa .
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 12:38 PM
Their intent was to damage it .
No, their intent was to get people's attention and then make a point.
(They found out ahead of time that the artwork wouldn't be damaged.)
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 01:09 PM
So vandalism against major pieces of
art is fine so long as the intent is noble?
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 01:25 PM
So vandalism against major pieces of
art is fine so long as the intent is noble?
Ask the guys who stormed the Capitol.
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 01:29 PM
(They found out ahead of time that the artwork wouldn't be damaged.)
source ???Or is that in your imagination like the words you added to Clueless comments in the other post about his comments about Beau ?
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 01:44 PM
Ask the guys who stormed the Capitol.No one is making excuses for that. Everyone who broke the law should be prosecuted. Do you feel the same way about the painting vandals?? Please answer that question as opposed to dodging it.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 01:45 PM
No one is making excuses for that. Everyone who broke the law should be prosecuted. Do you feel the same way about the painting vandals?? Please answer that question as opposed to dodging it.
The painting wasn't harmed.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 01:53 PM
No one is making excuses for that. Everyone who broke the law should be prosecuted.
Why isn't "everyone"?
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 02:15 PM
so let me get this straight . An act of attempted vandalisim is acceptable becuase their attempt was unsuccessful.
while we are at it we still do not address the absurdity of their attempted vandalism as a message .
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 02:42 PM
so let me get this straight . An act of attempted vandalisim is acceptable becuase their attempt was unsuccessful.
while we are at it we still do not address the absurdity of their attempted vandalism as a message .
Yet the vandalism et. al. on January 6 WAS deliberate AND successful. Now what?
Why was tomato soup thrown at that OIL painting?
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 03:13 PM
Yet the vandalism et. al. on January 6 WAS deliberate AND successful. Now what? Yet the vandalism arson and murdeer , after the death of George Floyd that lasted for months ,who was jacked up with lethal levels of fentynl ;was deliberate and successful Now what ?
Why was tomato soup thrown at that OIL painting?
Because in their twisted sick minds they were linking the use of fossil fuels with hunger .Stupid and bizzarro just like most environmental wackos The use of fossil fuels have dragged millions from a life of hunger and poverty .
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 03:26 PM
Yet the vandalism arson and murdeer , after the death of George Floyd that lasted for months ,who was jacked up with lethal levels of fentynl ;was deliberate and successful Now what ?
The George Floyd who was unnecessarily and brutally murdered by police?
Because in their twisted sick minds they were linking the use of fossil fuels with hunger .Stupid and bizzarro just like most environmental wackos The use of fossil fuels have dragged millions from a life of hunger and poverty .
The exploration for, development of, and production of fossil fuels will be the death of this planet.
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 03:35 PM
Dozens of people have been charged from 1/6. Many are being held without bail. Where have you been?
I knew you would not answer my question. Any question that seems threatening to your position causes you to run like a frightened child. I leave you with Tom and wish him good luck.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 03:46 PM
Dozens of people have been charged from 1/6. Many are being held without bail. Where have you been?
They ALL should be charged.
I answered your question, JL.
tomder55
Oct 14, 2022, 04:51 PM
They ALL should be charged.
with what ? taking selfies after being invited into the Capitol by the Capitol police ?
Most of the violations have been misdemeanor trespassing .
To sum up.
Greta made nonsense statements about Germany ;a nation that is facing a cold winter because it bet it's future on nonsense .
I noted a couple of vandals who attempted to destroy an iconic painting and spoke the same type of verbal diarrhea that Greta regurgitate.
From there the conversation went to the truely bizarre but what about equivalence trap .
For my participation in that distraction I apologize.
But I can't let one comment go unanswered
Floyd was not "unnecessarily and brutally murdered" . In fact officer Chauvin was acting in accord with procedures in handling a violent resister of arrest . Perhaps excessive force was applied . But murder it was not even if that is what Chauvin was ultimately convicted of .
George Floyd was not choked to death. He was not asphyxiated. He was not killed by Chauvin’s knee on the side of his neck. An autopsy showed Floyd’s neck muscles were not even bruised.
Floyd died when his heart stopped. Yet, he was already suffering from an enlarged heart with constricted arteries, one of five of which was 90% blocked and two others were 75% blocked.
An autopsy found heavy concentrations of fentanyl in Floyd’s system and traces of methamphetamines.
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 06:25 PM
George Floyd was not choked to death. He was not asphyxiated. He was not killed by Chauvin’s knee on the side of his neck. An autopsy showed Floyd’s neck muscles were not even bruised.
Floyd died when his heart stopped. Yet, he was already suffering from an enlarged heart with constricted arteries, one of five of which was 90% blocked and two others were 75% blocked.
An autopsy found heavy concentrations of fentanyl in Floyd’s system and traces of methamphetamines.Yes, but since that does not fit the prevailing liberal narrative, those facts will be ignored.
If anyone knows of a person who SHOULD have been charged on 1/6 but wasn't, then by all means put the name forward. Otherwise, please find another line of argument that might have some merit.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 06:49 PM
"New photos of Floyd’s injuries were displayed in court for the first time — showing bruises to the left side of his face, as well as his bloodied shoulder and knuckles from being pinned to the ground [for nine minutes and twenty-nine seconds]."
"The medical examiner who ruled George Floyd's death a homicide testified Friday that Floyd's heart disease and drug use contributed to his death, but police officers' restraint of his body and compression of his neck were the primary causes."
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 07:14 PM
If anyone knows of a person who SHOULD have been charged on 1/6 but wasn't, then by all means put the name forward.
Donald J. Trump
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 07:34 PM
No. I meant a thoughtful, logical, realistic answer, not a left-wing fantasy. All of that would leave Trump out. "Trump" is the "I hate Trump" answer.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 07:40 PM
They were copied from major newspapers (not from FoxNews).
jlisenbe
Oct 14, 2022, 07:46 PM
No. I meant a thoughtful, logical, realistic answer, not a left-wing fantasy. All of that would leave Trump out. "Trump" is the "I hate Trump" answer.
Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2022, 08:01 PM
No. I meant a thoughtful, logical, realistic answer
I reiterated what the M.E. concluded.
tomder55
Oct 15, 2022, 03:47 AM
Warning Signs That You Are A Fascist - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgv1jtTwgE&t=133s)
jlisenbe
Oct 15, 2022, 05:01 AM
I reiterated what the M.E. concluded.You recycled what the liberal, left-wing media concluded. That's the same bunch that also said Trump colluded with the Russians, a wild tale that has now been abandoned. A similar fate awaits this silly 1/6 theory. And I say that as a person who is not enamored at all of Trump, but does want to see the truth prevail.
Tom, the Youtube video was hilarious, and yet disturbingly accurate at the same time.
tomder55
Nov 4, 2022, 03:52 AM
Greta final told the truth about her intentions . It has nothing to do with climate change , She wants capitalism destroyed .
She's got a book out which I assume she hopes will make a lot of $$$ .
She is right about one thing however . Going to the COP27 is a colossal waste of time . All the jet setting climate activists and world leaders fly in and that a limo to the conference so they can hobnob and rub elbows with the likes of JFKerry and the Goracle .
When she stormed out of COP26 she said "Inside COP they are just politicians and people in power pretending to take our future seriously"
Right on right on right on . That could also be said of the World Economic Forum meetings held at Davos .