Clueless Joe did a shout out and asked
"Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie?

He was referring to recently deceased Rep. Jackie Walorski . Someone Clueless knew was dead. She died in a car crash August 8 last month. After her death, he had issued a statement saying he "appreciated her partnership as we plan for a historic White House Conference on Hunger, Nutrition, and Health this fall that will be marked by her deep care for the needs of rural America."

Statement from President Biden on the Passing of Congresswoman Jackie Walorski of Indiana - The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/03/statement-from-president-biden-on-the-passing-of-congresswoman-jackie-walorski-of-indiana/)


The WH press corp heard it ;and questioned KJP why he was calling for her when he knew she was dead . KJP of course went into severe spin mode defending him . For once they called out her BS . She said because the Rep was on his mind .

So if that were so then why would he not remember the Rep was dead ?

Later he went to the Rose Garden to make more comments .
Jill Biden had to direct her confused husband how to walk off the stage. "You go down this way." He still looks confused and wanders around before finally making it off the stage.

I believe the Dems are waiting for the elections and his 80th birthday November 20 to pass. Then the Dem leadership will meet with him and give an ultimatum to him and his cabinet to either resign ;or face removal via the 25th amendment .

I believe the Dems are waiting for the elections and his 80th birthday November 20 to pass. Then the Dem leadership will meet with him and give an ultimatum to him and his cabinet to either resign ;or face removal via the 25th amendment .You're going way out on a limb with that prediction. We'll see how it goes.

If I was is the Dem leadership that ies what I would do.

All the world see's he in mentally challenged , Clueless being President is becoming a national security concern,

Politically it makes sense too . They want a vigorous party leader to run for President . I believe they want Newsom at the head of the ticket in 2024 and do not want a nasty primary season or convention to get it done .

If I was is the Dem leadership that ies what I would do.

All the world see's he in mentally challenged ,
*cough*

Watching Biden trying to dodder off the stage after a speech concerning The Global Fund was alarming. He looked like an old guy who wanders out of his back yard and gets lost in the woods.

Watching Biden trying to dodder off the stage after a speech concerning The Global Fund was alarming. He looked like an old guy who wanders out of his back yard and gets lost in the woods.
And Trump's mental instability is so much more fun!

Trump was many things, but he was not advancing through the stages of senility like our current pres is. It's actually rather sad to watch.

Trump was many things, but he was not advancing through the stages of senility like our current pres is. It's actually rather sad to watch.
Yes, sad that Trump has been mentally unstable as long as we've known him.

*cough*

yes that too . He has frequent uncontrollable coughing fits .

Joe Biden Says He Swallowed His Own Saliva "Wrong," Causing Coughing Fit In The Middle Of Remarks - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1mxY3_jXX8)

‘He Has An Inhaler’: Karine Jean-Pierre Defends Biden's Coughing Fits During CHIPS Signing Event - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyENrkzfjQ4)

Try to stay focused . Trump is not the President . Clueless Joe with dementia is

It's amazing how liberal dems can come up with no better defense of their pres than to throw out false statements about Trump. Of course, come to think of it. how else could Biden be defended? They don't even bother to deny his plain mental deficits since they are on display for all to see.

yes that too . He has frequent uncontrollable coughing fits .
I was marveling over your Alzheimerish comment:
If I was is the Dem leadership that ies what I would do. All the world see's he in mentally challenged ,

The coughing fits are from his recent bout with Covid.

I'm not aware that people cough multiple weeks after Covid, but maybe so.

I'm not aware that people cough multiple weeks after Covid, but maybe so.
Yes, and have sore throats, nose drips, fatigue.

Senility as well??

Senility as well??
Yes, early stages.

You know of evidence that Covid brings on early stages of senility? I haven't heard that one.

Trump was many things, but he was not advancing through the stages of senility like our current pres is. It's actually rather sad to watch.
On Twitter: What about that time trump left the Oval Office forgetting to sign the bill, or the time he walked past his limo, or the time he cut off Queen Elizabeth, or the time he struggled down the ramp at West Point, or the time he wandered on the stage, or the time....

You know of evidence that Covid brings on early stages of senility? I haven't heard that one.

And then there was the time that Trump called for someone who had died just weeks before. No...wait. That didn't happen. Oh well.

You know of evidence that Covid brings on early stages of senility? I haven't heard that one.
From the WaPo:

Long covid refers to ongoing or new health problems that occur at least four weeks after a covid infection (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html), according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Much about the condition is baffling: There is no diagnostic test to confirm it, no standard definition of the ailment and no way to predict who will be affected. Common symptoms (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-care/post-covid-conditions.html), which can last months or years, include fatigue, shortness of breath, an elevated heart rate, muscle and joint pain, sleep disruptions, and problems with attention, concentration, language and memory — a set of difficulties known as brain fog.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/06/26/long-covid-seniors/

Much about the condition is baffling: There is no diagnostic test to confirm it, no standard definition of the ailment and no way to predict who will be affected.Sounds like a lot of speculation.

Sounds like a lot of speculation.
Covid is still very new. We're learning about it as we fall ill and hopefully recover.

I'd sure agree with that.

long covid . how convenient .. When people with Lyme complained of chronic symptoms they were mocked by the scientific medical community . They were told it was all in their heads .

Yes, sad that Trump has been mentally unstable as long as we've known him.

Trump has far greater mental problems than Biden. His demonstrated lack of knowledge is astounding for a wealthy 70+ year old man with an Ivy school education. His complete lack of empathy is a sure sign of a sociopath. His well-documented malignant narcissism borders on the psychotic and remains a danger as long as he plays a significant role in American politics.

I was marveling over your Alzheimerish comment:
If I was is the Dem leadership that ies what I would do. All the world see's he in mentally challenged ,


It is a real problem . One example is that his staffers have had to repreatedly walk back comments he makes saying the US will militarily defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion when that is NOT the US policy .

Yes the world knows he suffers from some stage of dementia Our adversaries are taking advantage of that .Our allies have deep concerns about our leadership.

And just basically living in a fantasy world where Trump forgetting a few things put him on that same level is no answer. There was no widespread suspicion of Trump's mental faculties when he was pres. His character was an issue, but not his mental acumen.

I would have loved to have watched the meeting where they were trying to figure out out how to spin the whole debacle.

His character was an issue, but not his mental acumen.
What mental acumen??? If he were a Democrat, this thread wouldn't be able to contain all the venom about him.

He is mentally very sharp. You didn't see him trying to find dead people in a crowd.

Pointing out the very obvious mental deficiencies of Mr. Biden is not venom. It's a legitimate topic for discussion.

He is mentally very sharp. You didn't see him trying to find dead people in a crowd.
Trump is always looking to grab something.

Pointing out the very obvious mental deficiencies of Mr. Biden is not venom. It's a legitimate topic for discussion.
And do we want an octogenarian for president in 2024?

I'm not worried too much about a person's age.

I'm not worried too much about a person's age.
Good! Then Biden will be appropriate too. Maybe they could run together as a team!

1 for one would welcome an age limit 79 seems to be a reasonable age to put them out to pasture .Reagan was 77 at the end of his 8 years and the Dems were very concerned about his mental facilities . Clueless began his reign at that point .

Good! Then Biden will be appropriate too. There are people who are still sharp at 80. Biden is a good distance removed from being one of them.

There are people who are still sharp at 80. Biden is a good distance removed from being one of them.
And Trump has never been sharp, just sharp-tongued.

Record low unemployment and a great economy is not achieved by someone who has nothing more than a sharp tongue.

Record low unemployment and a great economy is not achieved by someone who has nothing more than a sharp tongue.
He knew he would benefit tremendously.

He knew we would ALL benefit tremendously, and we did, especially as opposed to our current recession.

Figure WG will like this one.


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Too true, JL. Thus, all the more reason to have available for reading plus thorough and honest discussion any books and other materials on controversial topics.

thorough and honest discussion any books and other materials on controversial topics.

great let me know when you finish John Grisham 'State of Fear' .

great let me know when you finish John Grisham 'State of Fear' .
I have. Remember, it's fiction. Start the discussion!

I did start it on another posting probably best to discuss it there

Hurricane Ian (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/hurricane-ian-849862.html)


To read a good, referenced rebuttal to almost all the arguments in favor of that hypothesis; I recommend a fiction book that is well referenced and documented.

The book is Michael Crichton's thriller 'State of Fear'. Every assumption made by the climate change cult is countered in this fiction that is an easy read about ecoterrorism done in the name of saving the planet.

Gotta love these pro-police democrat mayors.


Austin mayor slammed by police advocates for falling asleep during fallen officer's funeral. 'I want to express my deepest apologies to the family of Officer Martin,' Austin Mayor Steve Adler said.

https://twitter.com/realJustinBerry/status/1577012242591383552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1577012242591383552%7Ctwgr% 5E4bed35fb5a7de3da865246a7a0b0d194bc1a7417%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2Fausti n-mayor-slammed-police-advocates-falling-asleep-during-fallen-officer-funeral

To read a good, referenced rebuttal to almost all the arguments in favor of that hypothesis; I recommend a fiction book that is well referenced and documented.

The book is Michael Crichton's thriller 'State of Fear'. Every assumption made by the climate change cult is countered in this fiction that is an easy read about ecoterrorism done in the name of saving the planet.

This book was written almost 20 years ago – and, unlike Crichton's usual well-plotted novels, this is an obvious piece of propaganda that didn't stand up then, and is grossly out of date today.

A critical review of the book follows:

Flawed or misleading presentations of global warming science exist in the book, including those on Arctic sea ice thinning, correction of land-based temperature measurements for the urban heat island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island) effect, and satellite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_measurements) vs. ground-based measurements of Earth's warming.

Michael Crichton was, by all accounts, an extraordinary individual, a wonderful science fiction writer, and the creator of Jurassic Park and the television series ER. But he missed the mark on climate change.

The book is timeless despite the hit piece reviews it got from the established environmental movement cult . It was well sourced with multiple references .

It was also a fast moving thriller that was hard to put down as the protagonists raced against time to stop a series of eco-terror events .

The President's mental challenges have become sad. He now imagines that one of his sons, who actually died of brain cancer, instead died in combat. This from a recent speech,.

"I say this as a father of a man and won the Bronze Star, the conspicuous service medal, and lost his life in Iraq."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-says-beau-lost-life-iraq-during-colorado-speech

He besmirches the memory of his son constantly by using his service and death as a political prop. It is disgusting . The sad thing is that Beau refused to participate in the Biden crime family .


The day the Bidens took over Paradigm Global Advisors was a memorable one.
In the late summer of 2006 Joe Biden’s son Hunter and Joe’s younger brother, James, purchased the firm. On their first day on the job, they showed up with Joe’s other son, Beau, and two large men and ordered the hedge fund’s chief of compliance to fire its president, according to a Paradigm executive who was present.
After the firing, the two large men escorted the fund’s president out of the firm’s midtown Manhattan office, and James Biden laid out his vision for the fund’s future. “Don’t worry about investors,” he said, according to the executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing fear of retaliation. “We’ve got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden.”

At the time, the senator was just months away from both assuming the chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and launching his second presidential bid. According to the executive, James Biden made it clear he viewed the fund as a way to take money from rich foreigners who could not legally give money to his older brother or his campaign account. “We’ve got investors lined up in a line of 747s filled with cash ready to invest in this company,” the executive remembers James Biden saying.

At this, the executive recalled, Beau Biden, who was then running for attorney general of Delaware, turned bright red. He told his uncle, “This can never leave this room, and if you ever say it again, I will have nothing to do with this.”

The Biden family’s strange business history – POLITICO (https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-biden-presidential-bid-family-business-history-democrats/)

Beau lost his life because of his service in Iraq.

Beau lost his life because of his service in Iraq.Huh? How was his brain cancer related to his service in Iraq?

At any rate, he did not lose his life in Iraq. It was a flatly untrue statement.

Huh? How was his brain cancer related to his service in Iraq?
Because of his exposure to burn pits in Iraq, Beau very likely came home to the US with what was eventually diagnosed as stage four glioblastoma. He died about 18 months later.

That sounds like speculation. Can you verify that?

Still, he did not lose his life in Iraq.

That sounds like speculation. Can you verify that?
Or you can google it.

Still, he did not lose his life in Iraq.
He lost his life BECAUSE OF HIS SERVICE IN IRAQ!!! And...We'll be watching and listening to you talk when you're a month short of your 80th birthday.

We'll be watching and listening to you talk when you're a month short of your 80th birthday.Thank you for agreeing with our point. Mental acumen naturally deteriorates with age, and thus Biden is making clumsy mistakes.

As to googling, since you seem not to know how, I did your work for you. The result shows the silliness of your claim.


We were unable to find any support for Biden’s claim that “more people are coming home from Iraq with brain cancer than ever before, than any other war.” His campaign did not reply to our request asking for a source for his statement.
The little data that exists does not suggest that Iraq veterans have developed brain cancer at higher rates than those who served in earlier wars.
According to a 2015 Veterans Affairs post-deployment surveillance report (https://www.publichealth.va.gov/docs/epidemiology/PDSR-Vol1-No1.pdf#), which the agency said was the only “current published data on this topic,” brain cancer prevalence was 0.04% for Vietnam veterans and 0.03% for both Gulf War veterans and those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan post-9/11. The report documents the prevalence and incidence of brain cancer, among other health conditions, for users of VA health care between April 2014 and March 2015. The Iraq War started on March 20, 2003 (https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/march-20-2003-address-start-iraq-war); the conflict in Afghanistan began on Oct. 7, 2001 (https://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/10/07/ret.attack.bush/).
Biden Exaggerates Science on Burn Pits and Brain Cancer - FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/biden-exaggerates-science-on-burn-pits-and-brain-cancer/)

Even Joe Biden himself disagrees with you.


Biden had said in a 2019 speech, " of exposure to burn pits, in my view — [B]I can’t prove it yet — he came back with stage four glioblastoma. Eighteen months he lived, knowing he was going to die."

It's just as well that you seem unable to do internet searches. They rarely support your claims.

During America’s post-September 11 wars, huge open-air burn pits were used to dispose of the mountains of trash on US military bases.

Everything from food packaging to human waste to military equipment, chemicals, paints, petrol, plastics and tyres were dumped into the huge pits and set alight with jet fuel.

Many of the pits covered acres of land and burned all year round without going out, all within close proximity to where US troops were sleeping, eating and working.

One of the biggest pits spanned 10 acres, burning around the clock at Balad Air Base, just north of Baghdad.

It’s a waste disposal practice that was banned on US soil back in the 1970s because of the health risks from the release of toxic fumes but which, five decades later, is still practiced by the US army on deployment to foreign countries, leaving American servicemen and women exposed to these toxins every single day.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-burn-pits-killed-141102209.html

Breathe deeply, JL, breathe deeply!

In your article there is not a hint that burn pits caused brain cancer. Not even a whisper, and Pres. Biden already has admitted there is no proof of it. So your own article does not support your idea.

This paragraph was instructive. "Three conditions – asthma, rhinitis and sinusitis – were first listed in August as presumptively linked to toxic exposure." Note that brain cancer was not mentioned, and the three conditions listed are all breathing or nasal problems, but are not cancers.

So while you might THINK that it is true, you have no support for your idea at all. Oh well.

In your article there is not a hint that burn pits caused brain cancer. Not even a whisper, and Pres. Biden already has admitted there is no proof of it. So your own article does not support your idea.
Try this one.
https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/chemicals/burn-pits.html

Even better! Go to an overseas military location. For two years, breathe in the smoke from burn pits. Then let's talk.

I tried it. Thank you for finding another link that does not mention brain cancer and thus does not support your contention.

Note this. "There is extensive evidence in other situations that PM in air pollution is linked to heart disease, asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), lung cancer, and an overall increased risk of death." Hmmm. No mention of brain cancer. Oh well.

Since you have found no evidence that burn pits contributed to brain cancer, is there even any evidence that Biden, an attorney with the JAG Corps, ever served near a burn pit?

Maybe he did serve near a burn pit, and maybe it did cause his brain cancer. I'm open to that possibility, but you have provided zero evidence to support that idea, and it remains completely true that he did not die in Iraq.

His exact words
"Just imagine — and I mean this sincerely, I say this as a father of a man who won the Bronze Star, the Conspicuous Service Medal,and lost his life in Iraq....

Beau did NOT lose his life in Iraq. He may believe Beau's service in Iraq and Kosovo contributed to the illness he later died from . That does not change the fact that he misspoke ;as he does so often.

Can anyone else document any other member of his 261st Signal Brigade unit that came down with GBM ? I doubt it. I would believe it more if the cause was respiratory like COPD.

His exact words
"Just imagine — and I mean this sincerely, I say this as a father of a man who won the Bronze Star, the Conspicuous Service Medal,and lost his life in Iraq....Actually, he did. His health -- and thus his life -- ended in Iraq.

Says WG but not the science. Even the pres does not agree with you. "I can’t prove it yet."

And since you have not been able to back up your other claim, then I have no real reason to believe that he was even around burn pits, and especially considering that he was an attorney with JAG. Just doesn't seem likely.

So like I said, maybe it's all true, but you have given us no real reason to believe it other than two articles which gave you no support at all as can be easily seen above.

Block me.

Answer questions. When even the pres disagrees with you, your position is in big trouble.

Anyway, should I try to block you, I get this message. "Sorry Wondergirl is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her." I will say this for you. You are the last remaining liberal on this site that will at least make an attempt to engage in discussion. The others have fallen by the wayside, so I commend you for being willing to take a stab at it.

I'm done .