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tomder55
Aug 17, 2022, 05:16 AM
You know and I know that the REAL reason for the raid on Mar a Lago had nothing to do with violations of the Presidential records act ,classified docs being stored securely on site or nuclear secretes that could imperil American security .

The REAL reason for the raid is to assist the Kangaroo court in it's investigation of January 6 2021 so they can ultimately give recommendations for indictment of Trump for the allegation that he led a coup attempt yada yada

However ; the 5th Amendment ;like the 4th Amendment that I have already mentioned in another post ,is unambiguous in it's constitutional protections .
It reads

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The thing is ,Trump has already been tried for Jan 6. The House Impeached him and a trial was held in the Senate.This happened between January 6 and 20,2021.

Yes the trial was held in Congress instead of the courts .It was still a trial . Nothing in the constitution suggests that a trial in the courts would not constitute double jeopardy after an impeachment acquittal . If the real reason for the raid was to find evidence connecting him to Jan 6 then it must be thrown out of court .

jlisenbe
Aug 18, 2022, 04:28 AM
That's a great post. The hatred directed against Trump is amazing. I still wonder if they are terrified of the possibility of Trump knowing where all the skeletons are buried.

jlisenbe
Aug 18, 2022, 05:11 AM
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tomder55
Aug 18, 2022, 05:12 AM
Yes that is the main reason for the raid. The grunt work for the Kangaroo court is secondary . One thing we know for sure ..... it was about politics and had no relation to national security concerns .

jlisenbe
Aug 18, 2022, 05:15 AM
They might just want some leverage. "Keep your mouth shut or we'll make this or that public."

tomder55
Aug 19, 2022, 05:17 AM
They have all the leverage . They don't even pretend that this isn't a political move to prevent Trump from ever being reelected .

Speaking of Liz Cheney ;the lifetime Virginia and swamp resident who pretends to represent the people of Wyoming ;she is dropping hints that she might run for President in 2024. She knows she can't win. She is ONLY motivated by hatred of Trump. But she could act like a spoiler in the campaign ;much like Ross Perot was to GHW Bush .

jlisenbe
Aug 19, 2022, 05:29 AM
She is considering running as an independent? Why doesn't she go ahead and join the dem party? That is clearly where her sympathies lie.

tomder55
Aug 19, 2022, 05:33 AM
The Dems won't take her. Besides her hatred of Trump ;she is politically a rock ribbed conservative. They called her dad 'Darth Vader ' .She will be like McCain was to the Dems . He was the beloved "maverick" . He was endorsed by the Slimes in the NY Republican primaries . But once he became the Repub candidate they unmercifully trashed him .

Liz Cheney's real base right now is the never Trumper Repubs . That's it . But that may be enough in a Repub primary battle ;or a 3rd party run to derail Trump. She would have the Soros bucks behind her and the slick marketing of James Goldson ;the producer of the Kangaroo court show. But if she thinks she could have a political rebirth beyond an improbable shot at the Presidency ;she should declare herself to be a Swamp resident and run for Congress in Virginia .