View Full Version : So much for civil discourse
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 08:51 AM
Beto, when faced with a contrary position, said this. 'It may be funny to you motherf---er, but it's not funny to me." Thank goodness that the party of tolerance is so patient.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6310733443112#sp=show-clips
tomder55
Aug 11, 2022, 10:48 AM
I had to laugh too when I saw him getting on one knee like he was a soldier aiming a rifle . It reminded me of Dukakis in a tank
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/backfire_5.jpg?w=712
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 10:56 AM
It wasn't "a contrary position" by an audience member; it was derision, major disrespect of cruelly murdered children and two teachers.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 11:18 AM
I don't think anyone is supporting the protestor's action, but to use "mf" in a crowd which included many children is just despicable. In fact, it's despicable at any time. It's what I would have expected from a middle school child or a gang-banger. But since he's a liberal dem, then other liberal dems will, of course, defend him.
You can't advocate for tolerance just for other people. You must exhibit it yourself. BO did just the opposite.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 11:26 AM
That expletive is very common on tv, in videos, in ordinary conversation. If a child doesn't know what it means, it will fly right past him.
I'm betting if you ask Trump, "What happened in Ulvade, Texas, recently?", he would be stumped.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 11:30 AM
Like I said. Liberal dems always support liberal dems even when they do that which is despicable, including the use of very foul language around children. But I'll remember in the future that WG is OK with using vulgar words around children so long as they don't know what the words mean.
I'm betting if you ask Trump, "What happened in Ulvade, Texas, recently?", he would be stumped.Just more TDS, and coming from a person who voted for a man who probably has to be reminded what day of the week it is.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 11:45 AM
But I'll remember in the future that WG is OK with using vulgar words around children so long as they don't know what the words mean.
And loving parents must then explain to their children what those words mean and why they were used.
Just more TDS, and coming from a person who voted for a man who probably has to be reminded what day of the week it is.
I'm a Republican.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 11:48 AM
No. Adults should use common sense and simply not use those words. How about the N word? Are you OK with someone using that as long as the kids don't understand them? "Honey, let mommy explain to you what a MFer is." It's just being absurd. Anything to protect a fellow liberal dem. If Trump had done that, then you'd be going nuts.
I'm a Republican.You're the biggest liberal dem on this site.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 11:51 AM
No. Adults should use common sense and simply not use those words. How about the N word? Are you OK with someone using that as long as the kids don't understand them? "Honey, let mommy explain to you what a MFer is." It's just being absurd. Anything to protect a fellow liberal dem. If Trump had done that, then you'd be going nuts.
I agree -- not use them. But their children should get a calm explanation of what those words mean and why they're used.
You're the biggest liberal dem on this site.
Nope. I'm the only sane Republican here.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 11:55 AM
No parent should have to explain the meaning of "mf" to their 10 year old. It's just a desperate defense of a fellow liberal dem who acted like a ten year old himself.
Sane repub? Nah. Perhaps it can best be expressed in this way. You have yet to find a liberal dem you would criticize, and you have yet to find a liberal dem position you would criticize. Walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...oh well.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 12:10 PM
No parent should have to explain the meaning of "mf" to their 10 year old. It's just a desperate defense of a fellow liberal dem who acted like a ten year old himself.
Who will the child ask for an explanation? His school friends? His teen neighbor? His foul-mouthed uncle? And he'll learn a few more expletives during the conversation -- and feel free to use them himself.
No, a loving parent needs to be in charge of this.
Sane repub? Nah.
Yep. As Republicans used to be before Trump -- and earlier. Think pre-1964.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 12:13 PM
When a stupid, vulgar adult uses profane language like that in the presence of a child, he is a poor excuse of a human being. Make all the excuses you want. It is disgusting. Why should that "loving parent" be forced into that situation because of the deplorable behavior of a sorry politician? And if Trump or any repub does it, then the same is true of them. Party affiliation is not an excuse.
This still explains it best. You're not fooling anyone here. "Perhaps it can best be expressed in this way. You have yet to find a liberal dem you would criticize, and you have yet to find a liberal dem position you would criticize. Walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...oh well."
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 12:19 PM
When a stupid, vulgar adult uses profane language like that in the presence of a child, he is a poor excuse of a human being. Make all the excuses you want. It is disgusting. Why should that "loving parent" be forced into that situation because of the deplorable behavior of a sorry politician?
Because that parent loves his/her child and wants to teach that child the correct and loving way to speak to others.
This still explains it best. You're not fooling anyone here. "Perhaps it can best be expressed in this way. You have yet to find a liberal dem you would criticize, and you have yet to find a liberal dem position you would criticize. Walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...oh well."
I very rarely comment on political threads. Not my thing. It used to be fun sparring and playing catch with Athos.
tomder55
Aug 11, 2022, 12:31 PM
It used to be fun sparring and playing catch with Athos. hard to spar when speaking to a like minded person.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 12:41 PM
hard to spar when speaking to a like minded person.
Oh, we happily sparred!
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 12:59 PM
I very rarely comment on political threads. Not my thing. It used to be fun sparring and playing catch with Athos.You rarely comment on political threads? You've commented on the latest four under "current events". At any rate, any comment you make is to support the liberal dem cause.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 01:07 PM
I comment (now that Athos is gone) only because I get so bored playing Solitaire and watching Dr. Phil and Jeopardy on tv. Sometimes I watch the youtube videos of Marcel the Shell with Shoes On or OwlKitty or Talking Kitty Cat. After all, there's more to life than AMHD Current Events!
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 01:12 PM
I can understand that. You are always welcome and it's good to see your views. It's just a stretch to say that you "rarely" comment on political subjects. And to be sure, you have never found a liberal dem cause you did not support.
Hard to imagine you and Athos ever having even a semi-serious disagreement.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 01:26 PM
Been rather sad to see the demise of this site. I came aboard several years ago mainly for the plumbing and electrical areas. We used to get several questions a week on both of them. Now it's down to three or four a YEAR. I came over to member discussions when those two areas played out.
Well, he's not only vulgar as it turns out, but he also doesn't keep his word.
"Great point, and I don’t intend to use the F-word going forward. Point taken, and very strongly made. We’re going to keep it clean," he said in March 2019.
O'Rourke, who commonly used the F-word during presidential campaign events, also appeared to break the pledge mere months after making it.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourkes-motherf-er-outburst-contradicts-pledge-avoid-f-word
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 01:34 PM
In the past, when AMHD was roaring with activity, I rarely commented on Politics -- was preoccupied with the Christianity thread and Member threads. Now, one of the few active boards is Current Events. I like to be oppositional -- challenge others to consider and post their own views and then support them with cogent arguments.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 02:42 PM
Oh please. I've tried and tried to get you to support your views with "cogent arguments", most recently with your views on free will and yet being bound by/subject to sin. All I get is evasion, evasion, evasion.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 03:02 PM
You misread my comment. "...challenge others to consider and post their own views and then support them [ i.e., THOSE VIEWS] with cogent arguments." I don't see many cogent arguments.
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 03:15 PM
challenge others to consider and post their own views and then support them [ i.e., THOSE VIEWS] with cogent arguments."I read it perfectly. You have a view that people who are subject to sin have, notwithstanding that, free will. I have asked you to support THAT VIEW with cogent arguments. So far, not much.
Wondergirl
Aug 11, 2022, 03:39 PM
You are subject to sin. You have no free will to do good?
jlisenbe
Aug 11, 2022, 04:03 PM
See what I mean? Ask for a "cogent argument", and you get a retread question.
jlisenbe
Aug 18, 2022, 07:57 PM
Latest antics by free-speech loving, liberal dems.
A conservative lawyer slammed Yale University on Friday for “cowering to mobs” after the Ivy League school refused to condemn law students who harassed her during a free speech panel.
Kristen Waggoner, general counsel at the Alliance Defending Freedom, was on Yale’s bipartisan panel last week when more than 100 protesting students stormed in (https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/yale-law-students-disrupt-bipartisan-free-speech-panel/) and disrupted it.
The students held up signs attacking ADF before one student told a member of the conservative group that she would “literally fight you, b—h.” (https://freebeacon.com/campus/hundreds-of-yale-law-students-disrupt-bipartisan-free-speech-event/) Panel members eventually had to be escorted out by police.
“This wasn’t a protest. This was physical intimidation and bullying that took place in the presence of Yale administration,” Waggoner told “Fox & Friends” on Friday (https://www.foxnews.com/media/yale-law-school-protest-free-speech-leftist-students-waggoner).
“I just want to underscore the importance that Yale administrators shouldn’t be cowering to mobs. They should be insisting on embracing a culture of free speech.”
https://nypost.com/2022/03/18/kristen-waggoner-slams-yale-after-free-speech-panel-derailed/
tomder55
Aug 19, 2022, 04:57 AM
Intolerance and persecution is now cool .
Cancel Culture database identified 186 incidents of blacklisting or censorship individuals for having wrong opinions or to cancel history and facts because that history or facts offended them between June 2021 and June 2022 .
Cancel Culture Database | The College Fix (https://www.thecollegefix.com/cancel-culture-database/)
There have been 112 speakers, signs, statues and other targets completely canceled on campus during the last academic year, and another 74 attempted cancelations, according to The College Fix’s Campus Cancel Culture Database, which tracks such incidents. That amounts to a total of 186 campus cancel culture incidents from June 1, 2021 to May 31, 2022. Put another way, there have been almost four campus cancel incidents per week over the past school year.
“For people who claim that cancel culture is a made up right-wing phenomenon, I invite them to scroll through page after page after page of our Campus Cancel Culture Database,” said Jennifer Kabbany, editor in chief of The College Fix. “You can’t go a week without something on campus being memory holed, erased, fired, renamed or what have you,” she said.
College Fix finds nearly 200 campus cancel culture incidents during 2021-22 school year | The College Fix (https://www.thecollegefix.com/college-fix-finds-nearly-200-campus-cancel-culture-incidents-during-2021-22-school-year/)
Since the end of May, the number of blacklisting incidents in the database has grown from 1550 to 1570
The database does not play favorites, listing acts of oppression from both the right and the left, though an honest review of the list reveals that most are coming from the intolerant left.
And this list is ONLY related to college incidents . It does not include incidents in the public school systems across the US ;where scores of incidents have been reported elsewhere. It also does not include incidents of blacklisting and intolerance in private business OR the government.
This is a Jacobin grass roots movement that is sweeping the country . It is well past the stage of a small minority of people with power. It is becoming acceptable mainstream practice in this country that is focused on destroying any opposition or dissenting views.. While a few years ago they tried to silence their opponents, now they are trying to get them fired and removed from society entirely.
The fact that most of this originated in the acedemic world where open mindedness and the free and open exchange of ideas was required as a prerequisite makes it particularly galling .
Mao's Cultural Revolution is what we are witnessing in America today.