Associate Supreme Court Justice Sonya Sotomayor's mother was concerned that if she sent her daughter to public school that her daughter would be left behind . She lived in a district in the Bronx where only 7% of students entering high school were ready for college 4 years later . For black students, the figure is 4%. .So in the Justice's words ;“She watched what happened to my cousins in public school, and worried if we went there, we might not get out,”

As Her Old School Faces the End, a Justice Reminisces - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/nyregion/with-her-old-school-set-to-close-a-justice-reminisces.html)

She was valedictorian of her class in 1968 and the rest is history .

As the article suggests Blessed Sacrament School closed it's doors .

The good news is that a new charter high school will replace it on site. On Aug. 22, Vertex Academies, will begin classes .

The bad news is that the United Federation of Teachers is suing to keep it closed.

Teachers unions sue to block new NYC charter high school (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/03/04/teachers-unions-sue-to-block-new-nyc-charter-high-school/)

Why am I not surprised ?

Vertex promised to deliver “a high-quality education to 150 minority students from low-income backgrounds” in its first year, says founding principal Joyanet Mangual.
Below her resume does not tell the complete story .

Leadership - Vertex Partnership Academies (vertexacademies.org) (https://www.vertexacademies.org/about-us/leadership#:~:text=Joyanet%20Mangual%2D%20Founding %20Principal,in%20Education%20(Special%20Education ).)

Her father, an immigrant from Guatemala, dropped out of school in sixth grade. Her Puerto Rican mother attended college but didn’t graduate. She grew up in Chicago, going to magnet schools and majoring in psychology a. She joined 'Teach for America' in New York, where she was assigned a 7th grade algebra class. Instead of algebra she found she needed to teach students basic addition and multiplication, “things they should’ve learned in elementary school.” NYC had a “modified promotional criteria,”which means waving students through to the next grade and by policy should be used only for students with learning disabilities.

Ian Rowe the CEO is from Jamaican immigrant parents who became successful professionals. Rowe graduated from NY's Brooklyn Tech, a selective public high school. From there he went to Cornell University and to Harvard Business School where he was the first black editor-in-chief of The Harbus, the school newspaper. He then went to work for Arthur Anderson accounting firm. While there he began mentoring students and that changed his life. .He also joined ' Teach for America 'with a goal of empowering young people .

What is the UFT beef with them ? Teacher's Unions hate to have competition. PERIOD . Charter and Private Schools expose the fraud that public education has become in too many places in this country .

What is the UFT beef with them ? Teacher's Unions hate to have competition. PERIOD . Charter and Private Schools expose the fraud that public education has become in too many places in this country .Exactly correct. In many cases it is all about the retaining of power. "If we allow competition, then we might have to stop teaching kindergarten boys that they are quite possibly girls."

Kids can't spell, don't know the times tables, don't understand decimals, haven't read a book for fun on their own, have terrible printing and handwriting, don't know American history basics (should I go on?). Improve the teaching of those subjects. Gender explanations and terminology should be taught in its own extracurricular activity, like Scouts or 4-H meets (or used to do), in the afternoon or evening.

Actually, American kids are better educated now than in many decades past, though some scores did slip some in 18 and 19. Grades 4 and 8 have done better than grade 12.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/ushistory/


Gender explanations and terminology should be taught in its own extracurricular activity, like Scouts or 4-H meets (or used to do), in the afternoon or evening.Whose explanations and terminologies should be used?

Actually, American kids are better educated now than in many decades past, though some scores did slip some in 18 and 19. Grades 4 and 8 have done better than grade 12.
I sure don't see that, haven't seen it for decades. Can you diagram a sentence? Do you know the times tables past ten? Would Jeopardy want you as a contestant?

Whose explanations and terminologies should be used?
There are standards that can be taught. An individual will tell which is preferred. I'm always asked now by medical and dental and business personnel (my answer then goes into their records) as well as by individuals online and in person.

I showed you the most widely accepted data. I don't know what else to tell you. You haven't seen it? Really? You spend your days gathering nation-wide data on site? I think I'll stick with NAEP data.

Whose standards?

I showed you the most widely accepted data. I don't know what else to tell you. You haven't seen it? Really? You spend your days gathering nation-wide data on site? I think I'll stick with NAEP data.
The data collectors are products of a less-than-stellar education and wouldn't know a misplaced adverb from a .... never mind.

Whose standards?
Keep up, JL!!!!

Yeah. It just has to be those "data collectors". It couldn't possibly be that WG doesn't know what she's talking about, could it? (<:

Just to be clear, I would agree that there are an appallingly high number of HS seniors walking around who don't know what they should. That is largely the result of stupid developments pushed by liberals who don't like to see some kids performing at a much higher level than others, and the explosion of single parent households whose children tend to perform at a much lower level than their peers.

What's wrong with these sentences?

1. I'm going to jump in the shower now.

2. I only want you to trim my bangs.

3. Please tell me where your going.

4. She baked two dozen cupcakes, frosted them, her boyfriend immediately ate three.

5. The toddler threw it's empty bottle at the sleeping cat.

What's wrong with those sentences? They are being used to change the subject. So once again, rather than just admitting that you are wrong, you try and jump into another lane. I'll leave it with you until you address your views versus the NAEP data that I imagine you never even looked at.

I. Am. Not. Wrong. All the NAEP data I see in that link is from U.S. History. I tried to find more useful info on their website. No bananas.

You don't know what's wrong with those sentences (without googling)? In which decade did you attend grade school?

I. Am. Not. Wrong. All the NAEP data I see in that link is from U.S. History. I tried to find more useful info on their website. No bananas.I thought you were highly proficient in searching the web. What happened??? Well, since I have to do it all for you, here are math and reading. Good grief.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/mathematics/?grade=4

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/reading/?grade=4

You...are..wrong.

I don't care about your silly sentences. I don't play along with your evasive sideshows.

You can't figure out what's wrong with each, can you.

How do I obtain a sample NAEP assessment that's given to fourth graders?

P.S. I found a science assessment. I almost threw up when I read the questions.

How do I obtain a sample NAEP assessment that's given to fourth graders?Use those internet skills you claim to have.


P.S. I found a science assessment. I almost threw up when I read the questions.I've seen samples of what you know about science. I'll stick with NAEP. Besides, you need to learn a few things about standardized testing.

I've seen samples of what you know about science. I'll stick with NAEP. Besides, you need to learn a few things about standardized testing.
I've taken and administered many tests. Nope. NAEP assessments can go jump.

Yeah. Any data that doesn't line up with your preconceived ideas would have to be wrong. In the meantime, however, serious people who actually study these issues rate it very highly, in large measure because it represents about thirty years worth of standardized testing.

Have you read the (stupid) questions asked of fourth graders? Can you answer correctly those same questions?

Think about how evil the teacher's unions have become . They would deny a good education to poor children to preserve the failed public education system that services their needs ahead of the student's . If they say they support diversity ,inclusion and so called equity while not supporting charter schools(which are just extensions of the public school system )and vouchers ,they are hypocrites .

Unions always seem to drift in the direction of unreasonable protections for their members. The teacher's unions, to which I never belonged, do the same thing. Thus you have teachers in NYC that are so inept that they are simply put into empty rooms all day. It's considered to be a better solution than trying to fire them. I'd love to see a voucher system tried somewhere. There would be some tough problems to solve, but there is a lot of potential in that. Even at that, we have gone so far down the road of absentee fathers that, absent a great Christian revival, I don't see how we can get back to a culture that is genuinely a healthy one for children.


Have you read the (stupid) questions asked of fourth graders? Can you answer correctly those same questions?I looked at some sample items for eighth grade. I thought they were difficult for 8th graders but do-able, and they were certainly legitimate questions for assessing science.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/science_2011/sample_quest.aspx

I can only say again that NAEP testing is the gold standard for drawing conclusions about how well various states are doing as well as how the nation is doing.

I don't know which sample test items you looked at, but these seemed very reasonable to me. Some were tougher than others, but for standardized testing purposes they seemed good.

https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/3/urlt/g4mssq.pdf