View Full Version : Clueless Joe's no lose rhetoric
tomder55
Feb 19, 2022, 02:40 PM
He says Russian attack on Ukraine is imminent .
If Russia does attack Clueless says "I told you so "
If Russia doesn't attack Clueless takes credit for his tough diplomacy working .
Wondergirl
Feb 19, 2022, 03:08 PM
What does Putin want?
tomder55
Feb 19, 2022, 03:19 PM
I laid out his case in at least 2 postings .
He wants the expansion of NATO to end . It has already crept right up to Russia's borders . He is not threatening NATO members .He made a red line with Georgia and Ukraine .
All of this could've been avoided if we had honored assurances we made to Gorbachev when the Soviet Union dissolved . the current standoff is DIRECTLY the result of our going back on our word .
tomder55
Feb 19, 2022, 04:35 PM
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tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 04:50 AM
Documents discovered in England and leaked to the German magazine Der Spiegel reveal that the West did indeed promise Russia in 1991 that NATO would not expand eastward .
The document was found in the UK National Archives by Joshua Shifrinson, a political science professor at Boston University
The 1991 protocol is in direct conflict with NATO’s 2008 commitment to Ukraine and Georgia that one day they, too, could become alliance members.
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tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 02:01 PM
Why does it appear that Clueless wants there to be a war more than Russia and Ukraine ?
Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 02:22 PM
I agree. He's handling this very badly. It would be so easy to resolve the entire mess!
tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 04:04 PM
Can't help but think Clueless is protecting Hunter's business interests .
tomder55
Feb 21, 2022, 12:39 PM
Think of the possibilities Putin invades Ukraine . Xi invades Taiwan . Clueless invades Canada .
tomder55
Feb 21, 2022, 02:17 PM
Guessing Hunter has no business interests in these regions of Ukraine
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tomder55
Feb 22, 2022, 05:30 AM
Putin who is rumored to be battling both stomach cancer and Parkinson's Disease made a rambling justification for his Ukraine moves . Given that it appears he sees this as a legacy move that he has little time to accomplish ;he is more dangerous than I first had thought.
Clueless should take a cue from Trump and pump lethal weapons systems into Ukraine as soon as possible . The West needs to decide on what it considers it's red line. Ukraine may not be it because despite the delusions of the West ; Ukraine is far from the democracy it envisions it to be.
tomder55
Feb 22, 2022, 05:56 AM
Flashback
Clueless 2019
"Putin knows that when I am president of the United States his days of tyranny and trying to intimidate the United States and those in Eastern Europe are over."
Clueless situation room . Note that all the name plates are turned so the press can know who is there . Strange
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