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fredg
Mar 22, 2005, 09:53 AM
Hi,
AVG Free Home Antivirus from Grisoft.com automatically scans incoming and also outgoing email using Outlook Express 6, POP3, SMPT email.
When it scans outgoing email, it attaches it's advertising something similar to "This email is virus free by AVG". When the person receiving the email gets it, this advertising is always posted in the email.

Two questions:
1. How often are there "antivirus definition" updates available? Is it every week, bi-weekly, every month?

2. The AVG Professional Edition Single Version, including a CD is around $45.
Does this Professional Edition also add it's advertising to outgoing email?

I have emailed AVG with question #2, but as yet, have not received a reply.
Thank you,
fredg

thebriggsdude
Mar 22, 2005, 11:30 AM
Hahaha yeah I already know about it. I had been using the older version a few months back then they sent me a notice about a new version out. Actually doesn't really tax my old 600mhz system out

fredg
Mar 23, 2005, 05:13 AM
Hi, briggsdude,
You didn't answer any of my questions!!
fredg

LTheobald
Mar 23, 2005, 05:43 AM
They really do have the slowest website I have ever seen...

I found the answer to the first question on their site.


Regular updates are released 2 times every week, priority updates are released whenever it is necessary (whenever a new virus is spreading)

Couldn't find anything about the second.

fredg
Mar 23, 2005, 07:18 AM
Hi,
Thanks LT.
After doing much, much more research, I have finally found the 2 answers.
The "buy" AVG Professional Single Version does NOT put it's advertising on outgoing email; like the free version does.
And, as you said, it is updated at least weekly, sometimes more, just like Norton.
Wendy also rates AVG as the 2nd. Best of all Antivirus Programs, and it's highly rated at other sites as well.
Thanks again,
fredg

thebriggsdude
Mar 23, 2005, 12:19 PM
Woops haha, sorry, umm actually avg will have some spyware in it. It's a update thing, the free version come on when you get on the net and updates automatically and scans the email etc. but it will advertise but hell its free!

fredg
Mar 24, 2005, 08:06 AM
Hi,
I am using the 30 day trial version of AVG Professional Single Edition; and so far, it's great.
I can also NOT have it put advertising in outgoing email from Outlook Express.
Updating last antivirus definitions is much, much faster than Norton.
It also has a boot-up option which check all boot files automatically.

So far, I am impressed.
It also found a Trojan file (ai.dll) in windows/system, which is an auto downloader.agent.6.ba.
I was wondering where a Trojan Horse (Backdoor.Agent) was coming from. Norton did not find it! But, AVG did find it on the first scan.
Very impressed with this simple Antivirus Program (which does not include the Spyware finder, stopper, pop-up killers, firewalls, etc, etc, which I do not want).
fredg

thebriggsdude
Mar 24, 2005, 01:17 PM
Yeah, umm sorry to say but the free version does the same, scans first while the computer is booting and updates pretty much every day and isn't a system hog either, just it advertises on outgoing mail which who would care really, it tells other people about it.

traka
Mar 24, 2005, 03:54 PM
When you look at the web page menu for firewalls in AVG, it may come bundled with Kerio Personal Firewall ( KPF)
The advantage is, if AVG and Kerio "talk" to each other, then there is no clashes of each software.
Kerio has it's own forum for help and support.
Both programs are not system hogs either and I have had no problems with the paid versions of both.
If you do install Kerio Personal Firewall, and you try to log in here or any other web site, it may not let you log in. You need to configure Kerio and it works fine.
Also, the thing is today with DSL connections, get a reputable firewalled modem and router all in one.
Many to choose from at www.billion.com ( has it's own support forum to)
As I wrote the above line, AVG updated it's files and it took less than 30 seconds to download and install.

ScottGem
Mar 25, 2005, 06:32 AM
When you look at the web page menu for firewalls in AVG, it may come bundled with Kerio Personal Firewall ( KPF)
The advantage is, if AVG and Kerio "talk" to each other, then there is no clashes of each software.


Umm, there should never be a clash between firewall and anti-virus software. The two do very different things. A firewall analyzes requests for access to and from the internet and controls such access. An Anti-virus will search files for suspected viral signatures.

fredg
Mar 25, 2005, 07:25 AM
Hi,
After only 2 days of using the AVG Professional Trial Single Version, I can assure you there is no Advertising associated with this Antivirus Program.
The only advertising would be when the option is selected to show others that outgoing email has been checked and is virus free... it then shows the name AVG.
It also has no "firewall" built in. That was determined by first, nothing running, and second, from Windows Explorer, scanning files, looking at Program Files folder, etc, etc.. . and also checking the Registry, and msconfig startup files.

I am well satisfied so far.

fredg

cremedies
Mar 26, 2005, 05:37 PM
In my opinion, ANY version of AVG is better than any paid anti-virus software from anybody else. People will have their own favorites, I know, but AVG is just my personal favorite for simplicity and effectiveness. I use the free version because it provides the same protection as the paid version... so why would anyone actually pay for it?

thebriggsdude
Mar 27, 2005, 02:18 AM
Exactly, why pay for a few more features :confused: when the free one is just as good. I've been using it for years and I can't complain

fredg
Mar 27, 2005, 04:48 AM
Hi,
Why pay for it?
The free AVG version attaches it's advertising to every outgoing email from Outlook Express.
The "buy" Professional Single Version gives the option of not doing that.
I send personal emails, some on a business level, and don't want advertising stuck to the bottom of those emails.
That's the only difference I see between the "buy" and free version.
It's a matter of choice, and for $33 US, it's a great buy for me.
Have a Happy Easter,
fredg

cremedies
Mar 27, 2005, 07:45 PM
It's an ad for its own product as opposed to spyware and popups for anything and everything. No big deal. It's self promotion. A common business practice.

thebriggsdude
Mar 27, 2005, 10:00 PM
Yes that and it shows the way for someone else to use it

Wendy225
Mar 28, 2005, 01:09 AM
My question is what crazy person would pay for a free Anti virus program like AVG, the main differences in the paid version is minimal, and who cares about a little add at the bottom of your email, when you receive you have to scroll to the bottom of the email to even see it and who cares, its just letting your email friends, know you took the time to scan it before sending it.

You actually paid for a FREE Anti Virus program, tell me your kidding, just to not have that add at the bottom of the emails.

I use Free AVG and Free Avast and Free Anti Vir, and believe me, no one does or goes as many places on the net as I do and does as much to get noticed by viruses, trojans and spyware/adware, so I need the best, and I use them in those 3 programs, I got rid of Mcafee,Norton and Panda, my old big 3.

They fell behind the pack, Please tell me you really did not pay for a Free program just because of the ads, :D

ScottGem
Mar 28, 2005, 06:31 AM
Ok, I have to put my 2 cents in here.

First, maintaining an anti-virus program costs money. To be effective, an anti-virus program has be kept up to date. This requires researchers and programmers to disect new viruses and fine ways to detect and clean them. For that reason alone, it makes sense to pay for an A/V, even a "free" one to make sure they have the funds to stay viable and up to date.

Second, making your e-mail a billboard for another company is a personal decision. In my personal mail, I don't care that much, but in my business mail I do and would not want that to happen. I can fully understand why someone would be willing to pay so that such ads would not occur.

Wendy225
Mar 28, 2005, 07:59 PM
Actually on my business email, I would want the persoanl Anti Virus ad, even more, that way, the people I do business, with, would have even more assurance and trust in me, that I use Anti Virus protection, I would think they would like that.

:)

thebriggsdude
Mar 28, 2005, 08:17 PM
Well I just got a email from a friend that I got to use the newest avg free version, only thing attached to the email was
(No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.) and that's it, and I don't have the avg free version on my comp. I'm using now.

traka
Mar 28, 2005, 09:57 PM
Well, I suppose on the email attached message it could also add the date, of the last time the anit-virus software was updated !

:eek:

In reply to a previous post on this thread, yes I *know* anti-virus and firewall are 2 different aplications. But there have been some cases where the workings of 2 different companies installed have crashed or froze MS O/systems.

But when I read the bundled version of AVG with a firewall included, as a consumer I would like it all to work perfectly if at all possible with the 1st install of both applications. All the "tweaking" has been taken care of with the internals and shared DLL files.

The time saved doing it myself and IF there are glitches,better to just send a glitch notice to AVG and it's taken note of priority wise because one has paid up.
Saves time and increases production because of not having to probe all day or pay someome to fix what has crashed because of probing !
I am not in the biszines of discrediting other anti-virus and firewall developers, but I have tried many and prefer the simplicity of AVG and it's bundled Kerio Personal Firewall.

For example, you would not try AVG for anti-virus and a stand-alone Nortons Firewall, would you ?
I don't have the time to test it either.

thebriggsdude
Mar 28, 2005, 10:40 PM
No it doesn't add the last time it was updated, avg updates all the time by default when you connect to the internet.

ScottGem
Mar 29, 2005, 05:01 AM
In reply to a previous post on this thread, yes I *know* anti-virus and firewall are 2 different aplications. But there have been some cases where the workings of 2 different companies installed have crashed or froze MS O/systems.


Yes, its possible for software to conflict. But generally those coflicts are in the same type of software. And yes its advantageous to deal with one company (why suites are so popular).

fredg
Mar 30, 2005, 09:37 AM
Hi,
My original message, posted early this morning, Wed, is not here. So, here is part of it again.
I agree with ScottGem in regards to paying for it, also in regards to Business Emails not having advertising attached to it.
I will be surprised if Grisoft.com continues offering AVG for free, after another year. But, if it has money coming in from advertising, donations, etc, maybe it will continue to be free. I support this site and the Antivirus Program it offers. I am able to pay the $33; and if you can't, then don't.

Business Emails should be in a "business" format, just as a formal business letter, typed, and mailed through the USPS.; but opinions vary. Opinions vary on everything!

fredg

traka
Mar 31, 2005, 07:26 PM
There also has to be a level of free anti-virus at a basic level because those who choose to not pay for things that are now fact of life with viruses and anit-virus measures are the one's probabaly most likely to get a virus if free anti-virus measures are not taken.

If these other internet users then bow out of having any anti-virus software installed due to having to pay, then the rest of the internet community will suffer in the long run because it is these groups that are more likely to get affected first,mainly due to ignorance and "can't happen to me" mentality or simply not understanding what is going on behind the scenes.
It's like saying. "the internet is a Garden of Eden and there is no sin, everything is perfect.
Yeah riiiight...

This is not meant to be in any way what so ever to put anyone down that looks for freebies when it comes to anti-virus software for free.
It's fact, it's just part of the statistics and number crunching, overall, in my opinion.

ScottGem
Apr 1, 2005, 06:32 AM
Traka,
You make an excellent point here. I agree that some of the vendors offering free versions of A/V may be doing it more to protect the Internet from people too foolish and/or stingy to protect themselves.

Nez
Apr 1, 2005, 11:46 AM
Agree with Traka and Scott on anti-virus protection.I use Bit Defender on my main PC,which I tried for a thirty day "freebie",before paying for the program.In the long run,and this is just my opinion,those of us who pay for anti-virus products are helping these programs progress through funding.Yes,if you want to use a free version of product X,Y,or Z,so be it,but in the end if everyone said no to the anti-virus companies,and work stalled,imagine the state of your PC if there were no updates?

Yes,there would be advertising by the very big companies,but to me,that is'nt the point.Spending a few pounds or dollars on a sensible precaution is much better than crossing your fingers in the long run.

All the best,
Nez.