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jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2021, 05:00 AM
Former Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell said the indictment of Perkins-Coie attorney Michael Sussmann (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-lawyer-michael-sussmann-indicted-for-allegedly-lying-to-fbi-during-russia-investigation) by Special Counsel John Durham is an important development in the probe into the origins of the FBI's investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia, but is not necessarily key to the entire genesis of the Russia investigation.

Grenell, who also served as President Trump's ambassador to Germany, called the entire probe "such a ‘swamp’ situation" and added that Sussmann was simply one of the subjects of 63 transcripts released while he was DNI, after Durham requested them.

"I hope that we have a lot of time to focus on these issues going forward. The media that pushed this, I don’t believe that the FBI officials were duped by an outside lawyer working with Hillary Clinton who lied about his client," Grenell, speaking on "Fox News Primetime," said of Sussmann.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/ric-grenell-fbi-wasnt-duped-by-hillary-linked-lawyer-indicted-in-durham-probe

tomder55
Sep 17, 2021, 07:58 AM
In any time that there was any integrity in the compliant press ;the news that he was the point person in Evita's manufactured hoax against Trump ;and he lied to the FBI to get the deep state's intel and policing power to take down a political opponent would've been explosive headlines around the nation . But this charge against Sussmann will be met with a collective yawn and a call to move on.

jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2021, 08:51 AM
In the, "It Just Keeps Getting Worse" category, now we see this.


T o fight tax evasion, the federal government wants the IRS to track any account in the United States that transacts more than $600 in or out over the course of a year. The tracking will apply to banks and other financial institutions. The feds claim that they will use any found tax dollars to help finance the administration’s new $3.5 trillion dollar plan.


The losses of freedom just keep accelerating.

Wondergirl
Sep 17, 2021, 09:10 AM
The rule would require financial institutions to report total annual inflows and outflows on accounts with more than $600 — not individual transactions.

tomder55
Sep 17, 2021, 09:19 AM
Untraceable currencies and barter becoming more attractive every day . I would have transactions like that every couple weeks when I was working just moving money from my direct deposit account to checking . It will probably be similar when I start dipping into retirement accounts for my expenditures .

This is on the blond hair ,blue eyed native American's wish list .It is supported by IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig who is looking to pad his agencies budget and increase it's power . I know he wants to beef up the IRS but wow ! How many agents do you need for that ? And what is that supposed to accomplish?

More proof that Quid's goal is not to go after the wealthy who have their accountants and lawyers to exploit the loopholes .He wants to go after the person who fills out their own form and makes an inadvertent error .

And like with his vax mandate ,he expects to deputize private industry to enforce his dictates .

jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2021, 09:20 AM
And that makes you feel somehow better, WG?


Banks and other financial institutions would also be required to report “aggregate account outflows and inflows.” In other words, the IRS will know about all of your bank accounts, whether you earned income on that account or not, how much is in the account in a given year, and how much was transferred in and out of the account. It is unclear how this would work, but what is clear is that this new reporting obligation will create a massive compliance effort on the part of financial institutions, and eliminate a massive blindspot that the IRS is currently enduring.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/irswatch/2021/04/28/banks-will-be-required-to-report-account-balances-account-outflows-and-inflows-to-irs-under-new-biden-plan/?sh=13ad57cd12bf

Wondergirl
Sep 17, 2021, 09:44 AM
Much of the information that banks would be required to report are already collected elsewhere.

jlisenbe
Sep 17, 2021, 09:49 AM
Not really, and certainly not reported to the feds.

tomder55
Sep 17, 2021, 11:21 AM
<sarc> and the banks will do this out a sense of patriotism and not pass on the incurred costs to their customers no doubt . </sarc >



Repeat after me ....pay your fair share ,pay your fair share ,pay your fair share ,pay your fair share ,pay your fair share ,pay your fair share ,pay your fair share..........

Define fair share .

Well Warren Buffett donates $ billions .He rarely sells assets and gives himself a nominal salary at Berkshire Hathaway. So yeah ;he probably does pay an effective rate less than his secretary in Federal taxes . Will Quid recommend the end of deductions for charitable contributions ? Doubt it . He would be stepping on too many toes the Dems suck . Those who argue about the mega rich not paying their share really are peeved about is that the government does not have control of how the charitable donations are distributed .
Who's not paying their fair share ? 2019 44% of Americans paid no Federal taxes . Then came the covid relief and that number ballooned to 61% in 2020 .

tomder55
Sep 18, 2021, 04:55 AM
Back to the Durham indictment of Sussmann . I read some more detail on it . It was a parallel disinformation dirty trick to the Steele Dossier hoax . Durham did a good job detailing Sussmann's role .

Sussmann used Evita campaign funds to construct a 'memo' and other evidence alleging that communications between a server at the Alfa Bank in Russia and the Trump Tower in New York MIGHT be a secret backdoor communication system for Trump and Putin to collude in the stealing of the election . The indictment says the Alfa bank allegations came via an unidentified tech executive (“Tech Executive-1”), who according to one of his emails expected to get the “top [cybersecurity] job” in Evita's Administration. The memo he created was a fraud that has been completely debunked .

He gave the memo to the FBI General Council James Baker in the crucial weeks before the election. Sussmann lied to Baker telling him that he was just being a good citizen ;not disclosing his role in the Evita campaign. He charged all his work on the scam to the Evita campaign. Baker thinking the information came from a neutral source ran with it .

"Sussman's false statement to the FBI general counsel was material to that investigation because among other reasons it was relevant to the FBI whether the conveyor of these allegations was providing them as an ordinary citizen merely passing along information or whether he was instead doing so as a paid advocate for clients with a political or business agenda."
9901e223-403a-47ce-93e0-1d78a5ff6627.pdf (justthenews.com) (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-09/9901e223-403a-47ce-93e0-1d78a5ff6627.pdf)

So where does it go from here ? If Durham is allowed to continue then Sussmann probably cops a plea deal and fingers more Evita dirty tricksters . Some of them have prominent roles in Quid's administration and some of them still hold rank in the law enforcement and intel agencies .[ie Jake Sullivan, now Quid's National Security Advisor who admitted to a House Committee that as an Evita operative , he spread the hoax narrative to the compliant press ], There are many more people who need to be held to account for the hoax and the sham investigation aimed to first cover up Evita and Bubba's dealings with Moscow ,to damage the Trump campaign and finally to take down Trump .

Will Quid and Garland allow Durham to continue ? I doubt it . As you recall ;Quid played a role in the deception. We know as an example that he was in the Oval Office when discussing the take down of Flynn. We know the emperor sat in and we can speculate that none of this occurred without his blessing . Brennan told the emperor that Evita was concocting the dirty trick to cover up her vulnerably over Bubba's Russian ties and her server scandal .The emperor could've stopped government assistance in the hoax at any time .

Should Durham continue ? You betcha ! The indictment says that Clinton campaign officials were informed and updated about the scam, Durham was facing a statute of limitation deadline for the false statement charge. He doesn't face such restraints about other charges .

The compliant press has already been doing the leg work for the Dems .with headlines like "Is this all Durham has ? " Read the indictment , It is an earthquake that shatters the myth the Dems created and ran with for more than 4 years .

jlisenbe
Sep 18, 2021, 05:05 AM
Sussmann probably cops a plea deal and fingers more Evita dirty tricksters .I wonder if he is placing his life in jeopardy if he does that.


Will Quid and Garland allow Durham to continue ? I doubt it .That, rather sadly, is likely true. And the compliant press and liberal dems will yawn and go on about their day. That's the REALLY sad part.

tomder55
Sep 18, 2021, 05:25 AM
Sussmann probably cops a plea deal and fingers more Evita dirty tricksters .


I wonder if he is placing his life in jeopardy if he does that.

remember the Bubba playbook Deny Deny Deny and then off your opponent .

Athos
Sep 18, 2021, 08:41 AM
Back to the Durham indictment of Sussmann . I read some more detail on it . It was a parallel disinformation dirty trick to the Steele Dossier hoax . Durham did a good job detailing Sussmann's role .

Durham did nothing re the Steele Dossier. Read the indictment. Your post connects dots where none can be connected - plenty of "speculation" and typical right-wing baloney.



Sussmann used Evita campaign funds to construct a 'memo' and other evidence alleging that communications between a server at the Alfa Bank in Russia and the Trump Tower in New York MIGHT be a secret backdoor communication system for ...............................blah blah blah................ to get the “top [cybersecurity] job” in Evita's Administration. The memo he created was a fraud that has been completely debunked .
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vita campaign. Baker thinking ...blah blah blah................................. the information came from neutral source ran with it ."Sussman's false statement to the FBI general counsel was material to that investigation because among other reasons it was relevant to the FBI whether the conveyor of these allegations was providing them as an ordinary citizen merely passing alon.......................blah blah blah......................g in

formation or whether he was instead doing so as a paid advocate for clients with a political or business agenda." So where does it go from here ? If Durham is allowed to continue then Sussmann probably cops a plea deal and fingers more Evita dirty tricksters . Some of them have prominent roles in Quid's administration and some of them still hold rane hoax narrative to the compliant press ], There are many more people who need to be ennan told the emperor that Evita was concocting the dirty trick to cover up her vulnerably......................blah blah blah..................... doing the leg work for the Dems .with headlines like .


After years of investigation and millions of taxpayer dollars - and the statute of limitations looming in three days - all Durham could come up with is Sussman's alleged lie to the FBI in 2015 which Sussman correctly denies.

Rather than take on your extended BS, let's just agree with your sentence bolded above and let the chips fall where they may. Don't hold your breath.

tomder55
Sep 18, 2021, 09:32 AM
After years of investigation and millions of taxpayer dollars - and the statute of limitations looming in three days - all Durham could come up with is Sussman's alleged lie to the FBI in 2015 which Sussman correctly denies.

Rather than take on your extended BS, let's just agree with your sentence bolded above and let the chips fall where they may. Don't hold your breath.


I share your frustration that Durham did not get more indictments . Part of the reason is that investigations of this nature with no predetermined outcome like the Russia hoax investigation take time and professional prosecutors follow a path that is plodding and methodical .

Another part of the reason was that he was charged to come up with a report about the Russiagate hoax origin. I expect he will be submitting that soon to AG Garland . I expect the Justice Dept will bury it . That is why I hope that Garland ;being one of the few honorable people in Quid's cabal, will do the right thing and let the justice system take it's course .

jlisenbe
Sep 18, 2021, 09:41 AM
If the report is not made public, then the repubs should absolutely raise cane about it.

Athos
Sep 18, 2021, 11:27 AM
Part of the reason is that investigations of this nature with no predetermined outcome like the Russia hoax investigation take time and professional prosecutors follow a path that is plodding and methodical

Durham's investigation lasted longer than the investigation he was investigating. Other than the lame indictment he came up with to beat the statute of limitations, he came up with nothing.

Mueller's investigation resulted in the prosecution of Papodopoulous, Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Cohen and others I can't recall at the moment. Then there were the 10-12 accusations of obstruction of justice still pending.


I expect he will be submitting that soon to AG Garland . I expect the Justice Dept will bury it

You mean like AG Barr buried Mueller's report? Acknowledged by all to be a tissue of lies.


...do the right thing and let the justice system take it's course .

We agree on that.

tomder55
Sep 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
Waiting for the pending conspiracy charges .

So who is Tech Executive -1 in the Sussmann indictment . ? Hmmmm " 13.By virtue of his position at Internet Company 1 and other companies Tech Executive -1 maintained direct and indirect access to ,and the ability to provide others access to, large amounts of internet and cybersecurity data including DNS data , " (page 5)
Thinking it is Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg .

According to the indictment Tech Exec 1 was promised a gig in Evita's administration

Athos
Sep 19, 2021, 04:24 PM
According to the indictment Tech Exec 1 was promised a gig in Evita's administration

That's little more than beltway gossip.

tomder55
Sep 19, 2021, 05:31 PM
see line item 15 in the indictment . Tech Exec-1 stated in an emaii that he was offered the top cybersecurity job in Evita's administration.

Athos
Sep 19, 2021, 05:40 PM
see line item 15 in the indictment . Tech Exec-1 stated in an emaii that he was offered the top cybersecurity job in Evita's administration.

Yes, I saw it. I'm not denying it's in the indictment, but you know anything can be stated in an indictment - even a ham sandwich.

tomder55
Sep 23, 2021, 03:38 AM
Durham investigation is ongoing . It did not end with this indictment,

Grand Jury Indicts D.C. Attorney with Making False Statements to the FBI in 2016 Regarding Alleged Communications Between Trump Organization and Russian Bank | SCO | Department of Justice (https://www.justice.gov/sco/pr/grand-jury-indicts-dc-attorney-making-false-statements-fbi-2016-regarding-alleged)

He used the indictment to outline a broader conspiracy case that he’s building that invokes several other federal statutes.James Baker is cooperating with Durham’s investigation, along with former FBI counterintelligence chief Bill Priestap, who has provided prosecutors notes about what led the bureau to open an investigation into the allegations Trump used Alfa Bank as an intermediary between his campaign and Putin .


There are allegations that Sussmann also used the same false narrative in conversations with the CIA . The CIA being willing conspirators did not question his source of the info and did not question his role in the Evita campaign

Of course John Brennan fully endorsed the deception . He briefed Senate Majority leader Harry Reid about the bogus Alpha Bank narrative in late July 2016 .Reid dutifully then fired off a letter to 'inspector Javert' James Comey demanding he do more to investigate Trump.'

We know the emperor was briefed . He ordered the CIA to investigate Russian interference .

No doubt Quid was involved too. We know he was in on the meeting Jan 5 2001 when he suggested the take down of Flynn with the Logan Act. So it is safe to assume that he was involved in the conspiracy all along .

jlisenbe
Sep 23, 2021, 05:01 AM
The CIA being willing conspirators did not question his source of the info and did not question his role in the Evita campaignIssues like that are a great concern. I used to hear references to "the swamp" and how this enormous, bloated fed government we have was filled with people who have agendas with no intention of changing course just because a new occupant is in the White House. I didn't pay much attention to it then, but more and more it's becoming clear that it is true. Trump, in his clumsy and loud-mouthed way, seemed to try and clean some of it out. They managed to get rid of him. Federal agencies seem to have a momentum and political agenda all their own.

tomder55
Sep 23, 2021, 05:08 AM
I on the other hand was on board with the deep state conspiracy theory since a child when LBJ had JFK wacked.

jlisenbe
Sep 23, 2021, 05:18 AM
Excerpt from column by Jonathan Turley.


The 26-page indictment of former cybersecurity attorney and Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann by special counsel John Durham is as detailed as it is damning on the alleged effort to push a false Russia collusion claim before the 2016 presidential campaign. One line, however, seems to reverberate for those of us who have followed this scandal for years now: “You do realize that we will have to expose every trick we have in our bag.”

That warning from an unnamed “university researcher” captures the most fascinating aspect of the indictment in describing a type of Nixonian dirty tricks operation run by — or at least billed to — the Clinton campaign. With Nixon, his personal attorney and the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP) paid for operatives to engage in disruptive and ultimately criminal conduct targeting his opponents. With Clinton, the indictment and prior disclosures suggest that Clinton campaign lawyers at the law firm of Perkins Coie helped organize an effort to spread Russia collusion stories and trigger an investigation.

Clinton lawyer's indictment reveals 'bag of tricks' | TheHill (https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/572861-clinton-lawyers-indictment-reveals-bag-of-tricks)

tomder55
Nov 5, 2021, 03:28 AM
Durham knocked down another domino with the arrest of Igor Danchenko . Danchenko lied to the FBI . He was the major source of the Steele Dossier . But most of his research came from Democrat gossip .
Danchenko alleged he received a call from from Russian reporter/businessman Sergei Millian alleging a Trump/Russia conspiracy. Millian has long-denied placing this call. This call was important because it was the basis for the FISA warrants against Carter Page. Durham’s investigation revealed Danchenko “never received such a phone call or such information from” Millian.
Danchenko wasn’t a source .He was a go-between, providing Steele with information from the Democrat PR Executive( Charles Dolan Jr.) Danchenko lied to the FBI about Dolan not being his source.

The DOJ and FBI allowed themselves to become an enforcement arm of the Evita campaign. Most thought that she was a sure bet and they were looking for Administration jobs and favors. That is normal deep state game playing But two things happened. First they went way too far in their dirty tricks and second Trump won so they had to keep up the façade lest they become exposed.

jlisenbe
Nov 5, 2021, 05:18 AM
The dangers of a large, burdensome central government are playing out before our eyes.

tomder55
Nov 9, 2021, 02:56 AM
Now that Durham has established the Evita campaign link to the Steele dossier hoax ,he will now go after the FBI agents involved in misleading the FISA court with the bogus dossier.

According to John Solomon of 'Just the News ' ;Igor Danchenko, Steele's primary source for the dossier, contrived an entire source for key allegations in the dossier and relied on a longtime Hillary Clinton-supporting public relations executive( Charles Dolan) for other intelligence without telling the FBI, the indictment charges. That PR executive had extensive ties to Russian government officials, even as he provided Danchenko information that landed in the dossier.

In other words ;as I have suggested ,it may have been Evita who was in collusion with the Russian government . That re:set thingy .


For some reason, Comey's FBI couldn't detect these serious flaws even though a group of civil lawyers was able to locate several Russians suspected of being Danchenko's sub-sources, interviewing each of them and securing declarations that the information attributed to them in the dossier was wrong or contrived.
"I believe that Mr. Danchenko framed me as Sub-Source 4 to add credibility to his low-quality work, which is not based on real information or in-depth analysis," said the witness declaration from Alexey Sergeyevich Dundich.
"My impression is that Mr. Danchenko fabricated the information published in the Dossier to make quick money," he added. "It is apparent to me that the Dossier is a deliberate fraud and a collection of idle rumors."

The biggest loser of the Durham indictments: James Comey's FBI | Just The News (https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/biggest-loser-durham-indictments-james-comeys-fbi)

"The fact pattern that John Durham is methodically establishing shows what James Comey and Andrew McCabe likely knew from day one, that the Steele Dossier was politically-driven nonsense created at the behest of the Clinton campaign,"said Kevin Brock, the FBI's former intelligence chief and one of the bureau's most respected retirees.

Durham is making slow but steady progress without the daily leaks that were so prevalent in the Inspector Javert Robert Mueller investigation. The only thing that could derail his progress is Quid or his Justice Dept obstructing his investigation .

Fionna Hill;“Think Tank Employee-1,” in the indictment has become the Forest Gump of both the Russia hoax and the impeachment effort of Trump regarding Ukraine. She is always there hovering around . She worked at the Brookings Institution with Danchenko for years before serving as a Russia expert in the Trump NSC. She introduced Danchenko to Steele .“introduced Danchenko to PR Executive-1,” Dolan,“in connection with potential business opportunities” around February 2016 according to the indictment
She was very busy key behind the scenes contributor to both the Russian hoax as well as a many character in the 1st impeachment ,

The new crop of allegations stemming from Danchenko’s indictment appears to suggest that Fiona Hill mentored, collaborated with, and actively promoted someone who helped to shape one of the most consequential political scandals in U.S. history. Despite participating in what amounted to an opposition research effort to portray Trump and members of his campaign as Russian stooges, Hill herself went on to accept a top post at the Trump administration’s National Security Council in April 2017. Did Hill suspect—and was she ever warned—at any point over the course of their lengthy professional relationship that Danchenko could possibly be compromised by Russian intelligence?

Was Brookings the Hidden Hand Behind the Steele Dossier? | The National Interest (https://nationalinterest.org/feature/was-brookings-hidden-hand-behind-steele-dossier-195852)

tomder55
Nov 9, 2021, 03:07 AM
deleted duplicate post

jlisenbe
Nov 9, 2021, 05:06 AM
I wonder how Mueller managed to not find out about this information? Deliberate?

tomder55
Nov 9, 2021, 05:12 AM
Mueller is not clean . I believe that part of Durham's investigation will be how Mueller knew early on that the whole thing was a dirty trick hoax and still went on with his investigation .All Mueller really did was persecute by inventing process crimes and files charges about past unrelated financial activities of some of the people he took down.

tomder55
Nov 10, 2021, 03:14 AM
on comment #10 I wrote Some of them have prominent roles in Quid's administration and some of them still hold rank in the law enforcement and intel agencies .[ie Jake Sullivan, now Quid's National Security Advisor who admitted to a House Committee that as an Evita operative , he spread the hoax narrative to the compliant press ]

The compliant press is finally catching up and reporting this and questioning Quid's mouthpieces about his role in the Russia hoax.



The report that the “foreign policy advisor” in the Sussmann indictment is Sullivan broke during a White House press briefing, leading a reporter to ask if there was “any conflict that would preclude Sullivan from carrying out his duties” as national-security adviser.
“I’m just now hearing this, so I don’t have a comment for you at this moment,” White House deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said. “I don’t know anything about what you’re just mentioning.”

Report: National-Security Adviser Jake Sullivan Is ‘Foreign Policy Advisor’ Mentioned in Durham Indictment (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/report-national-security-advisor-jake-202127374.html)

That is a flat out lie. It has been known for weeks about Sullivan's role .

Mike Flynn was persecuted by Mueller . But apparently Durham has not indicated that Sullivan will have charges against him. As minority chair of the House Intel Committee , Rep Devin Nunes said “It seems like a lot of the key Russia hoaxers fell upward and got promotions in the Biden administration.”“If Jake Sullivan was involved in the hoax, he should come clean and give a full, honest account of his role — but I won’t hold my breath for that,”

jlisenbe
Nov 10, 2021, 05:41 AM
“It seems like a lot of the key Russia hoaxers fell upward and got promotions in the Biden administration.”The worst of all possible outcomes.

tomder55
Nov 10, 2021, 06:07 AM
Jonathan Turley has a good article today detailing the revolving door between the Brookings Institute and the Dem power elites .

Six Degrees From Brookings: How a Liberal Think Tank Keeps Coming Up in the Russian Collusion Investigation – JONATHAN TURLEY (https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/08/six-degrees-from-brookings-how-a-liberal-think-tank-keeps-coming-up-in-the-russian-collusion-investigation/)

Brookings Institution’s influence on the Russian collusion scandal will likely remain central to Durham’s unravelling of how the FBI was duped into the Russian investigation and the role of Clinton operatives in that effort.

I would amend it to say how the FBI was a WILLING participant in the Russian hoax ;and later in the Democrat coup attempt .

tomder55
Nov 11, 2021, 02:22 PM
It gets curiouser and curiouser. So, Christopher Steele says this guy Igor Danchenko was a primary source for the dossier. Who did Igor Danchenko get his info from?

The FBI actually pretended to be interested in that. When they questioned Danchenko about his source who gave him allegedly a key link between Trump and the Kremlin; he told them that he talked on the phone with Sergei Millian, an immigrant from Belarus, president and founder of an organization called the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce...... a reliable source as ever there was one [sarc].

Turns out that was not true either. There was in fact no phone call according to the indictment.

Knowing this, the FBI still continued to use Danchenko’s supposed source’s claims of a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” between Russia and Trump to convince the FISA court to allow investigators to electronically monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who the FBI accused of masterminding the alleged conspiracy based on Danchenko's claims.

FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page.pdf (senate.gov) (https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FISA%20Warrant%20Application%20for%20Carter%20Page .pdf)

Agents told the court that Danchenko was “truthful and cooperative,” even after discovering he misled them. Millian has emphatically denied he had the phone call.

Danchenko’s fabrications about Millian were also fed to the FBI by the top DOJ official Bruce Ohr, whose wife, Nellie, worked for Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS; the firm that was paid first by John McCain, and then Evita's campaign to smear Trump. Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele who in turn hired Danchenko to assemble the fiction known as the Steele Dossier

Page was never charged and is now suing the FBI and Justice Department for $75 million.

tomder55
Nov 13, 2021, 03:49 AM
did the emperor know; and what was his involvement in the hoax?


What Did Obama Know and When Did He Know It? - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics (https://spectator.org/what-did-obama-know-and-when-did-he-know-it-2/)

tomder55
May 16, 2022, 04:43 PM
Sussman trial begins this week. His best defense is that he is being tried in DC and will have a DC jury pool. Durham will be able to make his case and name names.

The more interesting case could be the Danchenko case . His trial will be in Virginia .

In neither case I don't believe that they will want to fall on their swords for Evita et al.

tomder55
May 17, 2022, 03:50 AM
Here is the Federal Statute that Sussman violated according to Durham


...whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—(1)falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

(2)makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

(3)makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years ......


18 U.S. Code § 1001 - Statements or entries generally | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001#:~:text=Prior%20to%20amendment%2C%20text%20re ad,or%20fraudulent%20statements%20or%20representat ions%2C)


Yesterday jury selection lasted 8 hrs . One of the jurors is a Fed Employee who admitted to donating to the Dems. Another one ;also another Fed employee was seated who admitted to "strongly" disliking Trump. Both claimed they could be impartial.

tomder55
May 17, 2022, 08:48 AM
Lol more details Judge Cooper was appointed by the emperor. He allowed not only the 2 jurors I mentioned but a contributor to All Out Crazy . One of the jurors above said he would "strive for impartiality as best I can "

jlisenbe
May 17, 2022, 11:24 AM
I would be hopeful that this sewage pipe of corruption would bust open for all to see, but past history gives me no hope for that to happen. It's hard to imagine a more corrupt duo than the Clintons, and they have gotten off completely free. As an example, the tarmac meeting of AG Lynch and BC was a smelly as a garbage dump, and yet no one was held responsible and HC, of course, was not charged.

tomder55
May 17, 2022, 05:58 PM
I had a discussion with someone obsessed with the daily news of the Johnny Depp law suit . i said that was trivia but the real trial to follow was the Sussmam trial . I got a yawn . We are doomed .

jlisenbe
May 17, 2022, 06:57 PM
I was visiting a friend in a med facility today and he had ABC's evening news on. It was stunning to see them running interference for the Biden admin. They were talking about his visit to Buffalo. They way they fawned all over his wife and him, portraying them as the very souls of virtue and condolences, was disgusting. And then a following story about the baby formula disaster made no mention, of course, of the failure of the FDA in addressing the situation.

Wondergirl
May 17, 2022, 07:32 PM
Biden's speech was well spoken and from the heart.

jlisenbe
May 17, 2022, 07:53 PM
How do you know it was from the heart?

Wondergirl
May 17, 2022, 08:03 PM
He too has lost loved ones, family members suddenly, unexpectedly, even cruelly.

tomder55
May 18, 2022, 02:56 AM
It was hyperbolic demagoguery on a topic that deserves it's own posting .

jlisenbe
May 18, 2022, 04:32 AM
He too has lost loved ones, family members suddenly, unexpectedly, even cruelly.And he also is very much a political animal. So neither one of us really knows which area was motivating him. Probably both.

tomder55
May 18, 2022, 04:37 AM
Yes he used his personal family tragedies to the greatest political advantage......“we know a little bit of what’s like [sic] to lose a piece of your soul when you lose a son, a daughter, a husband, a wife, a mother, a father.”

When he screwed up in Afghanistan . He brought out the Beau card .

tomder55
May 18, 2022, 04:46 AM
Durham's prosecutor Brittain Shaw argued in opening statements yesterday that "The defendant's lie was all part of a bigger plan. ... It was a plan to create an October surprise on the eve of the election ... to use and manipulate the FBI,"

I believe that is giving the FBI way too much credit. They were willing participants in the fraud and took the lead in the later coup attempt.

jlisenbe
May 18, 2022, 04:57 AM
He issued yet again the tired old call to get assault weapons "off the streets". Perhaps someone could explain to him that an AR-15 is not a military assault weapon, and that such semi-auto rifles account for a very tiny slice of murders in our country. The chief culprit, by far, is handguns. Knives, in fact, are used to commit murder about four times more often than rifles. So his remarks are nothing more than meaningless political hyperbole.

At one point Biden said this. "Hate, through the media, politics, the internet has radicalized angry, alienated, lost, and isolated individuals has led them to falsely believe that they will be replaced...by the other." He could very well have been saying that about BLM and other black nationalist organizations.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

Wondergirl
May 18, 2022, 10:16 AM
Yes he used his personal family tragedies to the greatest political advantage......“we know a little bit of what’s like [sic] to lose a piece of your soul when you lose a son, a daughter, a husband, a wife, a mother, a father.”
It's called sympathy (Greek = feeling with), even empathy (Greek = feeling in, being able to get inside the other's skin to feel what he feels). I would have done the same thing and mentioned my husband's and my tragic loss to show I understand completely.

tomder55
May 18, 2022, 12:55 PM
He doesn't believe it for a second .He uses personal his personal tragedy too often for it to be genuine .

Wondergirl
May 18, 2022, 01:37 PM
He doesn't believe it for a second .He uses personal his personal tragedy too often for it to be genuine .
You're saying it didn't happen or it didn't affect him?

tomder55
May 18, 2022, 03:06 PM
He uses his tragedy for political purposes any chance he gets . It is disgusting how many times he has used Beau . Let the poor guy rest already !

tomder55
May 19, 2022, 11:44 AM
Former Top FBI lawyer James Baker confirmed in court today that Sussman lied to him when he told Baker that he was not representing Evita when he brought to Baker the debunked Alpha Bank Russia -gate fraud . He said he was 100% confident" that Sussmann told him he was not acting on behalf of a client. Because of this, Baker protected Sussmann's name when FBI agents took the evidence since he viewed him as a source. If Sussmann had come on behalf of a client, Baker said he wouldn't have protected Sussmann's name, just the client. Baker believed Sussmann was bringing this information in good faith as a good citizen.

Judge Cooper denied the defense's request for a mistrial

The jury is still Sussman's greatest defense . Today one of the jurors told the court that the juror's daughter and Sussmann's daughter are on the same crew team. The juror claims to have not met any of the Sussmanns.The prosecution moved to unseat the juror, which the judge denied.

jlisenbe
May 19, 2022, 11:49 AM
Today one of the jurors told the court that the juror's daughter and Sussmann's daughter are on the same crew team. The juror claims to have not met any of the Sussmanns. The prosecution moved to unseat the juror, which the judge denied.So the two daughters play on the same team and yet he has not met Sussman's daughter??? Sure sounds like a rigged verdict.

tomder55
May 20, 2022, 11:48 AM
Testimony today ; Former Evita campaign manager Robby Mook testified that Evita approved the dissemination of fake information about a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and the Russian Alfa Bank to the media knowing it was false .Mook testified that he was told that the data had come from "people that had expertise in this sort of matter." He testified that Evita agreed to give it to the compliant press. Both Evita and Jake Sullivan knew it was false and tweeted as if it were true ,
Hillary Clinton on Twitter: "Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank. https://t.co/8f8n9xMzUU" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793250312119263233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E793250312119263233%7Ctwgr%5E %7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2 Fhillary-clinton-approved-trump-russian-bank-allegations-sussmann-trial)

Jake Sullivan is eyeball deep in this scandal . He currently serves as National Security Advisor for Clueless.

tomder55
May 20, 2022, 12:28 PM
Above tweet has been put in the public record as evidence for this trial .

jlisenbe
May 21, 2022, 05:51 AM
Sussman is clearly guilty and HC is clearly guilty. If this boatload of evidence was about DT being guilty, the Trump haters on this site would be going nuts, but since the guilty are liberal dems, then it's just crickets.

But I don't see much hope for a conviction. In addition to the juror whose daughter plays sports with Sussman's daughter, there is another who is an AOC supporter. The only bright spot is that BC and Chelsea are not on the jury! I just think the chance of at least one juror standing in the way of a guilty verdict is just about 100%. Any American genuinely interested in justice should be alarmed about this stunning level of corruption.

tomder55
May 21, 2022, 09:52 AM
like I said in comment 36 . Durham will be able name the actors . This will not be the last trial What we have learned fron the 1st couple days of this trial will merit another grand jury.

tomder55
May 22, 2022, 05:08 AM
Sussman is looking for jury nullification .He's guilty and knows it . But his defense will be to say the name Donald Trump over and over again.
James Baker made the prosecution argument a slam dunk .Baker did not want to testify against Sussman Still he had to tell the truth ...the truth being that Sussman lied to the FBI to get them to start an unwarranted investigation against Trump.

The smoking gun is this text sent to Baker by Sussman
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“I’m coming on my own — not on behalf of a client or company — want to help the Bureau.”

Baker testified that he would not have met with Sussmann had he known the attorney was coming for a client. He also testified that the Bureau’s assessment of any information Sussmann provided would have been profoundly affected had they known it came from the Evita campaign, which had a direct interest in tying Trump to Russia...... showing that the FBI was investigating those ties..... and publicizing that investigation in the compliant press before the election.

Evita's campaign manager linked her directly to the plot Friday . Now there is a reason for Durham to continue his investigation and indictments up the ladder .

Still to come ...how an October surprise by the Evita campaign became a coup attempt against the elected President . There will be blood regardless of the jury decision in this trial.

jlisenbe
May 22, 2022, 05:21 AM
One can hope that some level of justice will be served in this case, but the Clintons have a long history of justice avoided. We'll see. I'm not going to get my hopes up. The whole deal seems to have driven by an insane hatred, and perhaps even fear, of all things Trump.

tomder55
May 22, 2022, 05:24 AM
One more thing ...... John Brennan was CIA boss at the time . The CIA discovered that Evita was going to pull this dirty trick to distract attention from her own Email server scandal. Brennan personally went to the emperor with this info.

The emperor armed with this information still went along with an FBI probe of the Trump campaign that included the authorized use of spying on the campaign. Then he told James Comey how to brief President elect Trump on the more salacious aspects of the Steele dossier in an attempt to hang a sword of Damicles over Trump's head .


The emperor was complicit in this plot as well as the phony investigation of Michael Flynn ;a meeting that Clueless also sat in on . It was Clueless who suggested that they use the Logan Act as a pretext for the spying and entrapment of Flynn.

tomder55
May 22, 2022, 06:07 AM
of course the world is focused more on Jack Sparrow's defamation lawsuit . We live in a dumbed down America ,
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jlisenbe
May 22, 2022, 06:26 AM
Yep. The non-thinking crowd is holding sway. How else can Biden's election be explained?

tomder55
May 23, 2022, 11:31 AM
Sussman's defense appears to be that it was NOT what they were doing to Trump that was the problem. It was what the FBI was doing to the Evita campaign.

Mook testified Comey's July joke of a presser where he said Evita was guilty but that no "reasonable " prosecutor would indict her .....and later in October 2016 after Comey reopened the case after more Evita Emails was found on Anthony Weiner's computer ,did more damage to Evita's chances than Trump did. What that has to do with Sussman lying to create the deflection narrative is beyond me.

But it may work as a defense . Durham is using this trial as a gateway to get the truth out .Whatever the outcome ;there will be more .

jlisenbe
May 23, 2022, 11:50 AM
"We were guilty, but Trump was even more guilty, so therefore we are innocent!" It's the America of 2022.

tomder55
May 25, 2022, 07:48 PM
FBI Supervisory Special Agent Scott Hellman testified “it took him and another agent less than a day to ascertain the data and ‘white papers’ on two thumb drives Sussmann gave Baker did not support the Trump-Alfa Bank ‘secret connection’ allegation.” Hellman concluded that the data showed there was no “secret connection” between Trump and Alfa Bank and “whoever had written that paper had just come to conclusions not supported by the technical data.” He said the methodology they chose was questionable” and “it just didn’t make sense to us. Why would a presidential candidate put their own name on a supposedly secret domain name?”

Knowing this , James Comey and Acting AG Rod Rosenstein (and probably Jeff Sessions to) allowed special council Robert Inspector Javert Mueller go on a fishing expedition to persecute Trump and his Presidency in an apparent coup attempt.

jlisenbe
May 25, 2022, 08:01 PM
Knowing this , James Comey and Acting AG Rod Rosenstein (and probably Jeff Sessions to) allowed special council Robert Inspector Javert Mueller go on a fishing expedition to persecute Trump and his Presidency in an apparent coup attempt.About sums it up. The level of corruption is just breath-taking.

tomder55
May 26, 2022, 04:44 AM
Sussman is seriously arguing in his defense that although he was technically working for the Evita campaign, that in fact he was not acting in the Evita campaign's interest when he offered, as a patriotic American, salacious and false information about Trump to the FBI. He says that had Evita known he was going to the FBI that she would've naturally opposed it. He says they wanted to promote it in the compliant press.

However ,Evita did just that .Even better was now she had an active FBI investigation to add to the fairy tail she was weaving . His proof ? Well after all her campaign manager went to her to get approval to float the story to the compliant press; and she agreed to it.

So the gist of his defense is that as a patriotic American ,and his concern about national security ,he went to the FBI AGAINST his clients interest . Get it ?

What does the ABA conflict of interest rules say on this matter ?

Personal Interest Conflicts.....

“the lawyer’s own interests should not be permitted to have an adverse effect on representation of a client.”

Rule 1.7 Conflict of Interest: Current Clients - Comment (americanbar.org) (https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_7_conflict_of_interest_current_clients/comment_on_rule_1_7/)

His obligation to Evita was to disclose his intention.

Of course this is moot because he is perjuring himself if he testifies to that . I hope Durham has the evidence on hand during cross examination. For one we know that Sussmann billed the campaign for his visit to Baker.

The prosecution on Wednesday morning produced the record from Perkins Coie that they say proves the law firm billed "Hillary for America" for the meeting Sussmann had with Baker at FBI headquarters on Sept. 19, 2016.On the bill, also dated Sept. 19, 2016, the Clinton campaign is listed as the client, the time is listed as 3.3 hours, and the memo states: "work and communications regarding confidential project." Other testimony revealed Sussmann charged approximately $800 per hour.

Prosecution, defense spar over bill allegedly proving Sussmann charged Clinton campaign for 2016 FBI meeting | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sussmann-charged-clinton-campaign-2016-fbi-meeting-durham-trial)

It is beyond laughable .His defense countered that although he billed Evita for a 'confidential project' .He did not specifically bill her for the meeting with Baker .
The jury learned Wednesday that Sussmann did bill Clinton that day, but only for "work and communications regarding confidential project."

"There is no reference to the FBI in that entry, is there?" defense attorney Michael Bosworth asked Durham paralegal Kori Arsenault, who was on the witness stand. "There is not," she said.
Bosworth highlighted expense reports showing that Sussmann didn't bill the Clinton campaign for his taxis to and from the FBI building, but instead billed his law firm at the time, Perkins Coie. Bosworth also pointed out that when Sussmann previously met with FBI officials on behalf of other unrelated clients, he would usually explicitly put "meeting with FBI" in his billing records.
Prosecutors showed that Sussmann billed the campaign for USB thumb drives that he bought days before meeting Baker -- when he handed over two thumb drives with cyber data about Trump.

Durham prosecutors rest case against Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/politics/sussmann-durham-rests-case/index.html)

Babylon Bee ......where are you when we need you ?

tomder55
May 26, 2022, 04:56 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTXPv-_XwAImSoT?format=jpg&name=medium
Hoping Durham does some follow up indictment on this testimony from Marc Elias that says current National Security Advisor Jake the snake Sullivan was in on the plot ;as well as John Podesta ;long time Clintoon hack ;and Jennifer Palmieri ;another Clintonista who was the emperor's White House Director of Communication before joining the Evita campaign.

jlisenbe
May 26, 2022, 05:20 AM
Needed: A republican pres with the courage to pursue this.

tomder55
May 26, 2022, 05:26 AM
I suspect that if Durham loses this case ,Clueless will shut him down,

tomder55
May 28, 2022, 02:00 PM
The case was sent to the jury . If nothing else ,Durham has established in court that Evita ,senior officials in her campaign ,and senior officials in the FBI were at a minimum unindicted co-conspirators .

tomder55
May 31, 2022, 11:34 AM
as expected Sussman was found not guilty . Justice in America is not blind . It is political .

jlisenbe
May 31, 2022, 11:52 AM
About as expected, sad to say.

tomder55
May 31, 2022, 03:30 PM
What I found out today beyond the jury rigging and the fact that Judge Cooper being appointed by the emperor is that the judge is married to Lisa Page's attorney Amy Jeffress who used to work in the Justice Dept while Sussman was there ;for AG Eric Holder . And to put a big cherry on the cake ........ Merrick Garland presided over their wedding !!! This is how the swamp works .

Judge Cooper and his father in law William Jeffress successfully defended Saudi Arabia AGAINST the families of 9-11 victims . Aint that sweet !! . Previously he was a special assistant to Dept AG Jamie Gorelick

You remember Gorelick as the moron who wrote the 1995 memo that established a "wall "between the FBI and CIA where information about terrorist plots could not be passed on between the agencies . That was a major part of the intel failure that led to 9-11

And so the swamp goes .

tomder55
Jun 1, 2022, 02:04 AM
Besides the jury deck obviously being stacked in DC , Durham did not do a good job in his treatment of the FBI. He treated them as a victim instead of co-conspirators.

If Durham continues to treat the FBI like dupes instead of part of the coup then the real story of Russia-gate will not be adjudicated .

The real story is how law enforcement and intelligence agencies colluded with the Evita campaign and interfered in the political process by spying on the Trump campaign ;creating a false narrative that Trump was a Manchurian candidate in the service of Putin. When that failed to derail Trump they undermined his Presidency and attempted a coup .

Durham ignores the emperor's intel and law enforcement agencies roles and concentrates on the Evita campaign . That doesn't even come close to telling the complete story and holding those responsible accountable .

Durham's previous indictment was against Kevin Clinesmith ,an FBI lawyer who concealed vital information about Carter Page to get FISA warrants . He let Clinesmith off the hook by letting him plea guilty to lying to the FBI rather than defrauding the FISA court on behalf of the FBI ;making the FBI appear the victim.

Next up is Igor Danchenko ,the Steele dossier compiler . The trial will be in Virginia so at least there is a chance of an honest jury. Again he is charged with lying to the FBI .Again the FBI is portrayed as a victim.

The FBI in fact used the dossier in it's FISA applications without ever attempting to verify the content or even interview him until after the fact . His information conveniently reenforced the narrative they wanted to peddle . They were not duped at all.

There will be no accountability until Durham gets this right . If there is another acquittal I believe Clueless anf Garland will shut the investigation down . Already the narrative on the left is that the investigation has gone on too long and that Durham is only fishing and making marginal charges .After 3 years investigating ,we should be much further along .

edit found this op-ed this morning
Deep State Allies Play Judge, Jury and Perhaps Executioner Against Durham | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/deep-state-allies-play-judge-jury-perhaps-executioner-against-durham-opinion-1710197)

tomder55
Jun 4, 2022, 10:39 AM
100 days of war. Clueless has done absolutely nothing in an attempt to come up with a diplomatic solution to the war. Instead the US continues to pump massive amounts of weaponry for the apparent goal of bleeding the Russians while not sending enough weapons to be a decisive game changer .

Clueless could be like Teddy Roosevelt who took the lead in a negotiated end to the Russia -China war 1904-5 . He could even get that coveted Nobel Peace Prize out of it .
Who is winning ? The US Arms industry
Who is losing ? Ukraine people ;Russian people ,US taxpayer ,hundreds of millions of people facing famine mostly in 3rd world nations .
What happened to the American anti-war left ? They have all become war mongers .

tomder55
Jul 21, 2022, 05:15 AM
Durham keeps plodding along. Next up to watch is the trial of Igor Danchenko. Durham has requested no less than 30 subpoenas for this trial

John Durham requesting 30 subpoenas a serious move, Kash Patel says | U.S. & World | gazette.com (https://gazette.com/news/us-world/john-durham-requesting-30-subpoenas-a-serious-move-kash-patel-says/article_5aef7636-5566-52e2-9398-3398857d3358.html)

It will be in Virginia ;not in the swamp .

On top of that there is more than a dozen referrals from Congress to Durham for cases of potential perjury involving the emperor's administration and Evita campaign officials who have testified behind closed doors about their involvement in the Russia hoax .

tomder55
Sep 14, 2022, 01:39 PM
Durham revealed in court filings before the trial that Igor Danchenko not only worked with Christopher Steele to concoct the bogus salacious Steele dossier ;he also was a paid informant for the FBI.The filing states that "in March 2017, the FBI signed the defendant up as a paid confidential human source ofthe FBI. The FBI terminated its source relationship with the defendant in October 2020."The filing says that the FBI during that period was trying "to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Steele Reports." Yet, it was paying one of the key figures in the conspiracy .

tomder55
Sep 24, 2022, 02:52 AM
ok so Danchenko ,who worked at the Dem think tank Brookings Institute ;who gave Steele the fantasy dirt on Trump ;who smeared a patriot Carter Page and gave the FBI lies about Page that they used to open a FISA warrant against him and the Trump campaign ;who later was a paid FBI informant ........ was himself investigated by the FBI previously .

New filings by Durham for the Danchenko trial reveal that while he was in Brookings ;and prior to the emperor's reign ,he "engaged two fellow employees about whether one...might be willing or able in the future to provide classified information in exchange for money."
Danchenko thought the employee "might be in a position to enter the incoming Obama administration and have access to classified information." Danchenko allegedly told his colleague that "he had access to people who would be willing to pay money...for classified information."

So the FBI opened and investigation on him from late 2008-2011....."as an associate of two FBI counterintelligence subjects" They found that he "had previous contact with the Russian embassy and known Russian intelligence officers." He "had also informed one Russian intelligence officer that he had interest in entering the Russian diplomatic service."

The FBI closed the investigation after they had mistakenly concluded that he left the country

Despite knowing this, the FBI from March 2017 through October 2020,put him on the payroll as an informant.

The FBI Paid for Russian Disinformation While Punishing a Patriot | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-paid-russian-disinformation-while-punishing-patriot-opinion-1745574)

tomder55
Oct 12, 2022, 04:11 AM
Danchenko trial began

Breaking news is that the FBI offered Christopher Steele $1 million to corroborate the details of the dossier . He was unable to back up the claims . This came from questioning of Brian Auten, a supervisory counter intelligence analyst with the FBI. Auten repeatedly admitted under questioning from Durham that the FBI never got corroboration of the information in the dossier but used it in the initial FISA application and in the three subsequent renewals.

Robert Mueller's henchman Andrew Weissman knew this and still proceeded with the witch hunt against Trump.

Durham still is going with this narrative that somehow the FBI was duped . Oh they wanted the info in the dossier to be true .The leadership in the FBI was not duped at all . They went into this with eyes wide open.

tomder55
Oct 18, 2022, 03:10 PM
He was acquitted of all charges . The deep swamp state is indeed deep .

tomder55
Oct 20, 2022, 05:08 AM
The jury is in . The deep state swamp can now legitimately claim that ANY accusation the the FBI has done anything wrong should just be ignored .
The main "source " to Christopher Steel's salacious and completely false dossier was found not guilty on 4 counts of lying to the FBI. A 5th count was dismissed by the judge because his lie was about an email instead of a phone call as Durham claimed

Durham's task was to prove the lies affected the FBI's investigation. The evidence showed it didn't because the FBI knew that he lied to them ;and they just did not care . They went ahead with the phony narrative of the dossier ,and submitted it to the FISA court anyway to spy on the Trump campaign.

Durham will write a final report about his investigation where he will prove beyond a doubt that the FBI was complicit in the Evita conspiracy to sabotage the Trump campaign and to criminalize his Presidency.

The problem is that in not getting any indictments ;and not even trying to indict any of the principles of the FBI involved ;there will be pressure on AG Garland to not permit the report to go public

One of the reason the deep state swap can shield itself from legal liability is that cased involving swamp critters are tried in DC and it's environs . Sussman's trial was in DC . This one was in Alexandriae Va ;a burb of DC . Potential jurors too often are invested in the swamp.

Here is a thought for the incoming red wave . The Constitution gives Congress the power to construct the judiciary . Only the Supreme Court is mandated .

“The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.” (Article 3 Sec 1 )

There is nothing that says that cases involving the Federal government have to be done in a DC area court . Congress could as an example designate Federal cases on a rotating basis to jurisdictions around the country. These cases after all affect the entire nation.

The problem is that Quid Pro Joe has veto power . But that could be resolved by compromise since the Dems long for an expansion of the judiciary (last happened in 1990 when Congress expanded the circuit courts by 11 permanent seats and the district courts by 61 permanent seats. ) Clueless and the Dems would get their jollies appointing new judges . Deep state cases would be fairly adjudicated by the people of the country and not by people who have a vested interest in the outcome.

tomder55
Dec 21, 2022, 06:03 AM
A close examination of the FISA requests the FBI filed to spy on the Trump campaign reveals that the FBI lifted entire sentences verbatim from the debunked Steele dossier in the applications . They then filed it to the court without verification of source or content using hedging language like “allegedly” or “purportedly” to indicate that the claims were unverified.
The application reads "the FBI has learned” that Trump campaign  adviser Carter Page had secretly met with sanctioned Kremlin officials in Moscow. But those allegations  came from Steele researcher Igor Danchenko, who admitted to the FBI in a January 2017 that the claim was just hearsay gathered from “conversation with friends over beer.”The FBI knew it was bogus information . They offered Steele $1 million to verify the content of the dossier and he could not .

The FISA warrant applications were signed off on by both Comey and McCabe when they knew the information provided by Danchenko in the dossier was bogus . Even after 2017 when they definitively knew his information was false they did not correct the applications as required by law. Instead they continued to meet with Steele and Danchenko to dig up more Trump dirt .The information was so deliberately inaccurate that the FBI was reprimanded by FISA judge Rosemary Collyer in 2019 .Collyer signed the original warrants on Carter Page .She warned that other FISA  warrants may be equally tainted and based on fraudulent information.

The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or  contradicted by information in their possession,  and [the frequency] with which they withheld information  detrimental to their  case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI  applications is reliable,

MIsc 19 02 191217.pdf (uscourts.gov) (https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf)

Besides the FBI deceptions ;the bigger question is what did the FISA courts do to address this besides this mild slap on the wrist ? The powers the court has exceeds almost any other judicial body in the country .

Under today’s foreign intelligence surveillance system, the government’s ability to collect information about ordinary Americans’ lives has increased exponentially while judicial oversight has been reduced to near-nothingness. This report concludes that the role of today’s FISA Court no longer comports with constitutional requirements, including the strictures of Article III and the Fourth Amendment.

What Went Wrong with the FISA Court | Brennan Center for Justice (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-went-wrong-fisa-court)

When Congress created the FISA Court, it made a departure from all the accumulated experience of our centuries-long legal tradition. It created an institution that was novel and untested, with secrecy and the lack of adversarial proceedings short-circuiting the normal operation of normal courts in very profound ways. It did this out of a recognition that our giant yet secretive national security agencies are something new in human history, that require new, more robust forms of checks and balances. But it now seems very clear that this deformed mutant version of a “court” is not up to the job.

The FISA Court’s Problems Run Deep, and More Than Tinkering is Required | News & Commentary | American Civil Liberties Union (aclu.org) (https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/fisa-courts-problems-run-deep-and-more-tinkering)

jlisenbe
Dec 21, 2022, 06:38 AM
What is most disturbing in this story is that the FBI is operating along the lines of a secret police. They target people they find unacceptable, in this case Trump, and lie like a dog to make a "case" against him, and yet very few people seem to find it disturbing. Suppose the Trump FBI had targeted HC in that fashion? What response do you think it would have brought about? The attitude of so many liberals is that anything goes as long it goes against conservatives.