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tomder55
Aug 28, 2021, 03:51 PM
I don' t say that lightly or with pleasure .

But Quid has been a disaster and I don't believe we can stand more of this ..

Joe Biden appears to doze off in the middle of a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFWaeCBDohw)

Wondergirl
Aug 28, 2021, 05:05 PM
Nope. Watch the entire meeting. He was concentrating and listening carefully to what the Prime Minister was saying.

tomder55
Aug 28, 2021, 06:08 PM
He "concentrates " often at meetings .

Wondergirl
Aug 28, 2021, 06:33 PM
He "concentrates " often at meetings .
As do I, with head down so I'm not distracted. Your little peepers dart around, looking here and there, so the speaker doesn't have a clue if you're even listening? Plus, if someone messed with the video, they could have embellished when, at one point for several minutes, he had been looking down at and reading from his notes that were lying in his lap.

jlisenbe
Aug 28, 2021, 09:05 PM
If he had started snoring, then he would really have been concentrating.

tomder55
Aug 29, 2021, 03:57 AM
When I sat in meetings at work ;I looked in the eyes of the person speaking, or at least was writing or looking at notes .There was no way I would sit at a meeting head down with my eyes closed .

Bennett seeing Quid dose off did the polite thing . He kept on talking to not embarrass Quid.

jlisenbe
Aug 29, 2021, 05:22 AM
I can't say he was dozing, but during the entire thirty second clip, all he moved was a couple of fingers. One thing was for sure. His little peepers were certainly not darting around.

Wondergirl
Aug 29, 2021, 07:26 AM
Biden has narrow eyes (thus Trump's nicknaming him "Sleepy Joe"), so when he looks down, his lashes cover his open but slitted eyes so they look closed. He wasn't asleep; he was listening thoughtfully. Watch the entire video and you will see how the two men were engaged and listening and responding to each other. And if you constantly stare at a speaker, tomder, that is scary! Watch the entire video, JL, especially for that tweaked section. Find it yet?

tomder55
Aug 29, 2021, 09:52 AM
I did not say stare . Whoever is speaking knows they have my attention . Quid looks like he wants to be anyplace else but in that room meeting with Bennett .

Wondergirl
Aug 29, 2021, 10:24 AM
I did not say stare . Whoever is speaking knows they have my attention . Quid looks like he wants to be anyplace else but in that room meeting with Bennett .
Have you watched the entire (quite short, yes, you have time for it) dialogue yet?

Oh, have you ever sat in church, listening to the pastor's sermon, tilted your head down and looked at your lap? Had the sermon lulled you to sleep -- or were you concentrating on/lost in thought at the message being preached?

jlisenbe
Aug 29, 2021, 11:58 AM
It's pretty bad when people feel they have to prove the President was really not asleep.

tomder55
Aug 29, 2021, 12:02 PM
yeah I'm sure Bennett was captivating and mesmerizing .
https://i0.wp.com/www.opindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Opindia-Images-2021-08-29T130404.487.jpg?resize=696%2C398&ssl=1
Maybe the person who tells him which reporter to call on during a presser forgot to tell him nap time was over .

Wondergirl
Aug 29, 2021, 12:17 PM
I just watched the COMPLETE video again. The part you're bashing comes at the end of their meeting. Wow! Biden is awash with gratitude at Bennett's kind words and feels likeminded.

jlisenbe
Aug 29, 2021, 01:01 PM
Yeah, Tom. He only slept for a minute or so.

jlisenbe
Aug 29, 2021, 04:42 PM
Off topic, I realize, but this has interested me. Is the number of views for this even remotely correct? 23,625?? That doesn't sound believable, does it?

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Wondergirl
Aug 29, 2021, 05:02 PM
Off topic, I realize, but this has interested me. Is the number of views for this even remotely correct? 23,625?? That doesn't sound believable, does it?
It's the total number of times anyone has gone onto that thread. You may have been on it 4,000 times so far as you bounce off and on, posting and editing and adding more and posting again and editing and deleting and tweaking. It was started on June 29 and has seen a lot of activity by the site regulars, plus, of course, others (who may or may not be members) peek in to see how the fist fight is going.

jlisenbe
Aug 29, 2021, 05:38 PM
You may have been on it 4,000 times so far as you bounce off and on,That would be about sixty times a day. Pretty sure that's not right. It just seems strange to me. It would be four hundred views a day...from who?

tomder55
Aug 30, 2021, 03:52 AM
Quid: I'm not supposed to take any questions, but go ahead.

QUESTION: Mr. President, on Afghanistan--

Quid : I’m not going to answer on Afghanistan now.


Who exactly are the people who keep telling Quid that he can't answer questions? Why do they tell him that? Why is he so deferential to them?

jlisenbe
Aug 30, 2021, 04:23 AM
His approval ratings are plummeting and understandably so. He plainly seems to be just a puppet. I wonder who is really in charge. Obama?

tomder55
Aug 30, 2021, 04:56 AM
Lessons for Quid .... the emperor tried to walk away from Iraq .Then ISIS formed and at their peak were able to carve out significant territory from Iraq and Syria. They were rolled back by the US air power supporting Kurd ground troops .

In Afghanistan there is still a pocket of resistance in Panjshir Valley .The Soviets could not take the valley and the Taliban never could when they ruled in the 1990s . When the Taliban was driven from power after 9-11 ,there was American Spec Ops ;sometimes riding horse and donkey ,directing US air power ;and the foot soldiers from the Northern Alliance (mostly from the Panjshir Valley . )

Taliban forces are converging on the Valley . They have offered a ruse for the Tajik of the valley to join the government . But the Tajik want an autonomous region . That is unacceptable to the Taliban.

The US should support the Tajik resistance . We should also retake Bagram as a permanent outpost until we are satisfied that all US citizens are repatriated ;and that the Taliban will not allow Afghanistan become a place where jihadists can attack America . Bagram is only 60 miles from Panjshir and is 40 miles from Kabul .It is perfectly located for the purpose.

jlisenbe
Aug 30, 2021, 12:53 PM
https://scontent.fmem1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s720x720/240752463_2344560339007578_8599336737929537478_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=8cttEK3NdqcAX8ZCUWJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fmem1-2.fna&oh=2e37e9eba089ca99e3d7a84d1a450cc8&oe=61523D0D

Wondergirl
Aug 30, 2021, 12:58 PM
Why didn't Trump solve the problems in Afghanistan and get us out?

jlisenbe
Aug 30, 2021, 01:05 PM
Yeah. It's all Trump's fault.

Good grief.

Wondergirl
Aug 30, 2021, 01:39 PM
Yeah. It's all Trump's fault.

Good grief.
Why didn't he? He was cleaning up the world and protecting us with a wall on the southern border and limiting the influx of refugees and immigrants.

jlisenbe
Aug 30, 2021, 02:53 PM
Trump was the one who signed the agreement that we would withdraw back in May. Few people are criticizing Biden for the withdrawal. It is the incredibly inept manner in which it has been done that is at issue, and it has clearly been a disaster. I just wonder what liberal dems are going to say when we have to start talks to get all of the remaining Americans (think "hostages") out.

Wondergirl
Aug 30, 2021, 03:42 PM
The talks have been going on already.

tomder55
Aug 30, 2021, 04:03 PM
The Taliban did not attack troops for over 18 months during Trump's watch while the withdrawal was being negotiated . All they needed to see was the way he dispatched IRGC boss Qasem Soleimani to know that they would rather not cross him up .

tomder55
Sep 1, 2021, 05:55 AM
Quid says he wants to shift to low intensity "over the horizon drone warfare (the last drone attack killed more than 10 innocent Aghani civilians ) . But without Bagram Air base that horizon is almost 1200 miles away. That's a 6 hr flight after assessing the intel; and arming /fueling the drone . Situations change rapidly in that time frame .That is how the target got close to the Kabul air base in an area surrounded by civilians . The choice ? Attack the truck and kill innocents or let the suicide attack occur.

We do not have a very sophisticated drone strike force . Oh the explosions make for great video . But we do not have anything close to a drone warfare doctrine . The Houthis using Iranian cheap swarm drones are better at it by far.
. “By using an unconventional long range strike capability, the [Iran backed] Houthi have consistently demonstrated an ability to penetrate modern air defenses and achieve strategic effects despite being overmatched in technology, manpower and funding” by the Saudi-led coalition.

Developing Unconventional Long Range Strike Capability for the ADF - Part 1 | The Cove (army.gov.au) (https://cove.army.gov.au/article/developing-unconventional-long-range-strike-capability-the-adf-part-1)

The highest profile and successful attack occurred on 14 September 2019, targeting the ARMACO facility in Abqaiq. While some of the details of this strike are disputed, the successful penetration of air defence and the effects are in no doubt. The attack utilised a combination of up to 25 OWA UAVs and ballistic missiles, and disrupted 50% of Saudi’s oil output and 6% of global supply.

And Iranian drones are becoming much more sophisticated ;thanks to the good ole USA .
https://theaviationist.Com/2016/10/02/iran-unveils-new-ucav-modeled-on-captured-u-s-rq-170-stealth-drone/

Quid tried to get Putin to agree for US bases in the formerly Soviet 'Stans' nations to conduct his counter terrorism strategy The Dems have given Putin no reason to do so .

Russian President Vladimir Putin, during a June 16 summit meeting with President Biden, objected to any role for American forces in Central Asian countries, senior U.S. and Russian officials said, undercutting the U.S. military’s efforts to act against new terrorist dangers after its Afghanistan withdrawal. The previously unreported exchange between the U.S. and Russian leaders has complicated the U.S. military’s options for basing drones and other counterterrorism forces in countries bordering landlocked Afghanistan.

Putin Rejected Role for U.S. Forces Near Afghanistan at Summit With Biden - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-rebuffed-u-s-plans-for-bases-near-afghanistan-at-summit-with-biden-11629398848)

Another complication of course is that we now have no one on the ground we can trust to direct the attacks . US troops ? Gone .CIA ? They bugged out early . The Diplomats ? They were on some of the 1st planes out . The Afghan Army ? They cut and run when funding and America's withdrawal date was set .

jlisenbe
Sep 1, 2021, 06:04 AM
We should never have pulled out. Staying would have had its negatives, but pulling out has far more. We had developed a good strategy for our forces that was largely non-combat. It was a foolish move that we will live to regret.

tomder55
Sep 1, 2021, 08:08 AM
Bagram would've been an outpost equivalent to our troops on the 38th parallel ;or in Gitmo .