The US must back the people of Cuba against the Castro junta Communist tyranny .

And don't believe the lies coming out of Washington by enablers like Bolshevik Bernie who blames US sanctions ,or members of the Quid Administration who are saying that the people are protesting a lack of covid vaccines .

Another American war. You just can't help yourselves. Is this why you exited the entanglement of Afghanistan? to put your young men at risk again? Let the Cubans do it alone otherwise China might feel they have to defend communism and broaden the conflict.

Cuba has given the lie to american aggression in the Caribbean for decades and what you want is the return of a mafia run country?

I said nothing about involving US troops . I said nothing about a return to the Batista dictatorship .What I did say was that the US must back the people of Cuba .

How? another Bay of Pigs? perhaps you can empty Miami of hispanics and transport them back to Cuba, solves two problems at the same time

Mr. Negativity at work again. Just vocal support would help a lot. Funneling in some secret money to assist the protestors? Cheering for the possible freedom of the Cuban people? Portraying the protestors as the good guys?

or we could live on our isolated island and say that nothing else that happens in the world is our concern . Throw another prawn on the barbie .

For your information, we don't barbq prawns that was a myth created for american tourists. I'm all for Cuban liberation but like the last time it must be the Cubans who do it for themselves. They became communists with your help and they should throw off the yoke without it

What the Cubans don't need is a redux of the emperor's policies . He spent a lot of American resources propping up the Castro commies . He blamed the US for the plight of the people and worked to ease international pressure on the regime.

Quid and the Dems appear to be wedded to that same policy . Numerous statements by the Quids fell way short of supporting the people . They again blamed US policies ;said the people were protesting about covid even though the people were on the streets shouting 'liberdad' .

The Castro/Diaz-Canel junta have taken their cue and are doing the brutal takedown of the protests . The Quid regime is silent on that .
btw ;the recent economic issues of the island relate to the loss of revenue from Venezuela and a bad sugar harvest .....well that and 60 years of communist mismanagement of the economy ;the building up of foreign debt ,and uncontrolled inflation.

BLM blames America too . They are also in solidarity with the communist dictatorship. They took time off of their busy schedule of shaking down corporations and purchasing mansions to tweet that it was the US fault and praised the regime .

(21) Sabrina Rodríguez on Twitter: "Black Lives Matter has released a statement on Cuba: https://t.co/NgnT1o1oZE" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/sabrod123/status/1415496641658896391/photo/1)

They say that Cuba supports Blacks because they harbor Assata Shakur ;(aka JoAnne Chesimard ) who is an accomplice in the 1973 brutal murder of NJ policeman Werner Foerster .

Quid's DHS director Alejandro Mayorkas has said the US will not take Cuban refugees . If he blocks them it will be the only nation's people that the Quid regime has denied entry . Mayorkas family fled Cuba in 1960 .

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yep circles . Dems repeatedly praise the Cuban dictatorship ;then when pressure builds gives milquetoast lip service support to the protesters right to protest . They did the same thing in Iran in 2009 when the regime was on the brink.

Bolshevik Bernie and the Squad support the regime ,and more Dems by their silence give cover for the regime .

No doubt Cuba has problems, the whole of the Caribbean has problems but just because it is the pond in your back garden doesn't mean you should interfere

Self determination is only possible when people have the means and ability to self rule . When they live under the jackboot of dictatorship then they need assistance ;just like the American colonists received during our revolution .

I'm not saying American military power should be exercised . There are many ways to assist . (ie air drop and smuggle in sat. phones the bypass Cuba's internet blackout ) But first there has be a will to give assistance to the people and not support the tyranny they live under . The Dems want to interfere by propping up the regime because it's failure is an indictment on all they believe about a state managed society .

If we can provide non-military assistance to the Cuban people in throwing off this tyranny, then we should begin today.

Self determination is only possible when people have the means and ability to self rule . When they live under the jackboot of dictatorship then they need assistance ;just like the American colonists received during our revolution .

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Tom the Dominican republic freed themselves without your help, It was convenient for the French to help you, since you were fighting the British.

The Demonrats only have to look to China to see what a well managed state run society can become, perhaps it is what they want for you, or they could look to Venezuela to see what failure looks like

well managed state run societyTry going into China and criticizing that "well managed state run society". See how long they allow that to go on.

a well managed state run society
you mean a Potemkin culture . They really have you bamboozled . If you put the facade of a village in front of a concentration camp ,it is still a concentration camp.

The funny thing is this. Wasn't it just a couple of months ago that Clete was posting about how China was going to cause problems for Australia because of the situation in Taiwan, and imploring the rest of the world to come alongside them and help?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=848195&p=3870308#post3870308

you mean a Potemkin culture . They really have you bamboozled . If you put the facade of a village in front of a concentration camp ,it is still a concentration camp.

you guys really are out of sarcasm meters over there


The funny thing is this. Wasn't it just a couple of months ago that Clete was posting about how China was going to cause problems for Australia because of the situation in Taiwan, and imploring the rest of the world to come alongside them and help?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=848195&p=3870308#post3870308

Half facts again the situation arose because we called for an inquiry into the origins of covid, yes, we asked for solidarity in the face of aggression and we got it, fat lot of good it did as noone announced sanctions against China

No sanctions against that well managed state run society? Imagine that.

Yes I can't imagine why you are still harassing them, sailing through their waters and objecting to the concentration (sorry, reeducation) camps and to think they are so thin skinned that they can't be questioned about the origins of a pandemic. If you had asked the question they would have ignored you as they do with everything

Not to worry the WHO is getting tough with China "urging " them to cooperate in the origins investigation .

Covid: WHO urges China to co-operate better in virus origin probe - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57855653?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom3=%40bbchealth&at_custom4=0743DFAC-E5A1-11EB-808A-27ED4744363C&at_custom2=twitter)

Ha, haa, haaaa, I can't stop laughing China is a sovereign nation, the WHO has no say on what goes on in China

Then China should be expelled from all these various international organizations . WHO is a problem in that they ran cover for China when sourcing could've saved thousands of lives .

China is a joke . Beijing has been exploiting the pandemic to advance its political and financial interests Covax, the WHO backed initiative, announced it will PURCHASE 550 million doses of China's Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines . Billions of dollars for subpar vaccines that have been ineffective against the Delta variant .The Chinese shots are proving so ineffective that several countries are seeing surges due to the false comfort they provided.

The US has already DONATED over 12 million doses to Covax and will donate more . And of course funding from the US to it's various agencies is what makes money available to WHO to pay for these garbage Chinese doses and the principle owner of Sinopharm is the Chinese government .

If they go through with this sale then I agree with NJ Senator Menendez who said the US should stop donating doses to Covax and instead should rebalance distribution of its surplus shots more toward bilateral agreements and less through international organizations beholden to Beijing.


Make no mistake about it . China is already using it's vaccines as a diplomatic tool . Doses are being sent contingent on countries playing by China's rules ie change positions on Chinese occupation of other nation's seas and land ...their Taiwan policy ,and critique of how China handled the pandemic in 2019 at it's origin .

China has many diplomatic tools to bend the will of smaller nations, belt and road debt trap, loans, fishing trawler fleets, vaccines, infrastructure teams. They take a long term view something a nation with a short electoral cycle cannot compete with

The West made a calculated risk that by bringing China into the fold of a global system that they could be tamed . That was a bad gamble .
To paraphrase a quote attributed to various commies of the past; the capitalists will sell the rope that hangs them . There is some truth to that .

Nixon needed a deflection so he built on the Aussie initiative, after Whitlam had visited

by the way Tom I think the quote is; we will sell the last capitalist the rope to hang himself. China is trying to live up to that

Nixon needed a deflection so he built on the Aussie initiative,Yeah. That was right after we landed a man on the moon by following the "Aussie initiative".

Yeah. That was right after we landed a man on the moon by following the "Aussie initiative".

The moon was a bridge too far for us so we went to China first, you, on the other hand, were competing with the Russians and needed to find some new allies. We were just looking for trade opportunities and Whitlam was dark pink anyway

Yeah Nixon was a start . But the real push was the Bubba and Bush initiatives to assist China in joining the WTO. Their biggest economic advances have occurred in the last 20 years as they have thumbed their nose at any rules joining international trade organizations expect member nations to live by. The country’s 2001 entry into the WTO allowed it unprecedented opportunities for foreign trade that revolutionized Chinese markets and lifted millions out of poverty. But China has never let go of its top down tight grip on the economy. Businesses can only operate in China if the CCP approves, and only to further its goals.

and how do McDonald's and KFC further it's goals? did they get the IP to the Colonel's recipe?

the people like eating Mickey D's . So what did the Chinese do ? They allowed them to establish inside the country then CITIC ,the state owned financial company; purchased the majority stake in the Chinese operation McDonalds effectively gave up control of it's Chinese operations .

Yum China owns KFC . Although it is based in Louisville , it is essentially a Chinese brand company since 2016. Because the Chinese prefer chicken over beef ,they have an advantage over Mickey D's .What the brand brought to China was modern distribution and management systems .By localizing their menu KFC in China is exclusively a Chinese brand . .

yes I have eaten both in China, no difference in the taste, that was the appeal for the Chinese, a taste of the decedent western culture