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tomder55
Jun 10, 2021, 06:19 AM
This one said that Trump had Lafayette Park cleared using tear gas so he could have a photo op at St John's Church ...... LIE !!

The Inspector General of the Interior Department, Mark Lee Greenblatt did his own extensive investigation .


Over the course of this review, our career investigative staff conducted extensive witness interviews, reviewed video footage from numerous vantage points, listened to radio transmissions from multiple law enforcement entities, and examined evidence including emails, text messages, telephone records, procurement documents, and other related materials. This report presents a thorough, independent examination of that evidence to assess the USPP’s decision making and operations, including a detailed timeline of relevant actions and an analysis of whether the USPP’s actions complied with governing policies.

And what did he find ?


The evidence we reviewed showed that the USPP cleared the park to allow the contractor to safely install the anti-scale fencing in response to destruction of property and injury to officers occurring on May 30 and 31. Further, the evidence showed that the USPP did not know about the President’s potential movement until mid- to late afternoon on June 1—hours after it had begun developing its operational plan and the fencing contractor had arrived in the park.

None of the decision makers had any idea Trump was coming when they implemented plans to clear the Park

The USPP operations commander, the USPP incident commander, and the USPP acting chief of police told us they did not know the President planned to make a speech in the Rose Garden that evening. The USPP incident commander told us he was never informed of the President's specific plans or when the President planned to come out of the White House. He said, "It was just a, 'Hey, here he comes.' And all of a sudden I turn around and there's the entourage."

The USPP acting chief of police also told us he did not know about the President's plans to visit St. John's Church and that the USPP incident commander told him the President might come to the park to assess the damage at an unspecified time. The USPP acting chief of police and the USPP incident commander told us this information had no impact on their operational plan, and both denied that the President's potential visit to the park influenced the USPP’s decision to clear Lafayette Park and the surrounding areas. Numerous other USPP captains and lieutenants and the ACPD civil disturbance unit commanders also told us they received no information suggesting that the USPP cleared the area to facilitate the President's visit to St. John's Church. The DCNG major we interviewed told us that his USPP liaison appeared as surprised as he was when the President visited Lafayette Park, stating, "We [were] both kind of equally shocked."

Final Statement (ibmcloud.com) (https://doioig.opengov.ibmcloud.com/sites/doioig.gov/files/Final%20Statement_0.pdf)

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2021, 07:30 AM
One of many.

I wonder if your documentation will find approval here.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2021, 08:39 AM
Then, obviously, Trump's minions had informed him that the area would be cleared of people, so he mentally shouted "Aha!" and took advantage of that to make his "speech".

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2021, 09:02 AM
When the truth does not correspond with your preconceived notions, it is best to change your notions.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2021, 09:05 AM
When the truth does not correspond with your preconceived notions, it is best to change your notions.
Just like you do! (Plus, I never said Trump had the area cleared for his Bible presentation. The most obvious truth at the time was that Trump had the area cleared before venturing out. As it turned out, he -- or someone in the WH -- was savvy enough to view the clearing out as a golden opportunity.)

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2021, 10:00 AM
I encourage people to believe the truth.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2021, 10:06 AM
I encourage people to believe the truth.
You didn't know the truth when Trump did his Bible presentation.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2021, 10:06 AM
The new narrative without missing a beat is that the Park police did not warn BLM that they were going to clear out the park . Quid's DOJ already argued in court against a law suit against Trump by the ACLU and BLM over the removal of the rioters . (don't tell me it wasn't a riot .They did extensive vandalism to the park and to St John's Church ......and they tried to topple a statue in the park. They also battled with the police . )

Quid's argument .... one is legit ;one is nonsense.
The first one has to do with Presidential security . Obviously Quid would like the same type of protection DOJ attorney David Cutler cited a 2004 Supreme Court ruling that Secret Service agents could not be sued for damages by antiwar protesters, who claimed their free speech rights were violated when they were moved two blocks away from a restaurant where President GW. Bush was having dinner. Cutler argued that the plaintiffs in the Lafayette Square case “seek to hold the attorney general personally liable for damages for actions taken to ensure a safe perimeter for the president of the United States.”

His other argument to the judge must've been a real belly laugher to the judge . He said that the lawsuit was moot because Quid unlike Trump, was not hostile to the 'mostly peaceful protesters' , and therefore there was no danger of a recurrence of the events.

talaniman
Jun 10, 2021, 10:11 AM
The bottom line is they cleared a peaceful crowd with tear gas and pepper spray. That's the truth and the rest is just opportunistic spin to detract from the truth.

Nice try though.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2021, 10:12 AM
...therefore there was no danger of a recurrence of the events.
That will be interesting to see out if there's widespread protesting, marching, and opportunistic looting and destruction when President Biden presides over a large outdoor event or rally.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2021, 10:46 AM
BLM will be on their best behavior . Can't vouch for the antifa terrorists however . They are the same goon squads that took to the streets to riot and disrupt World Bank and IMF gatherings under Bubba's and GW Bush's terms .

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2021, 10:55 AM
BLM will be on their best behaviorThey have a best behavior?

Athos
Jun 10, 2021, 11:02 AM
Can't vouch for the antifa terrorists however . They are the same goon squads that took to the streets to riot and disrupt World Bank and IMF gatherings under Bubba's and GW Bush's terms .

You left out that they were the insurrectionists on Jan 6 posing as Trump supporters and Jesus saves.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2021, 12:49 PM
i have no evidence of that

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2021, 02:35 PM
I can only assume Athos was being sarcastic. We've got to get that sarcasm font working again.