This is classic Trump. When he doesn’t like something, he stops the check. He just refuses to pay you for pure spite.

Giuliani charging $20,000 a DAY for his services is pretty pathetic especially since Trump has nothing to show for it other than the signal honor of being the ONLY SITTING PRESIDENT to be Impeached TWICE!

Trump cares not a whit what trouble Giuliani might be in.

He didn’t win the election for Trump.
He didn't get a single State to stop the vote count.
He didn't get a single election official to stop the certification.
He didn't get a single State vote count to find more votes for Trump.
He didn't get a single State to declare Biden's votes invalid.
He didn't get Congress to overturn the election.

It’s pathetically, embarrassingly, much much simpler: When Trump is Unhappy— He just doesn’t Pay you. Nothing more complicated than that.

Ask the hundreds of contractors and small businesses that have had the misfortune of thinking that Trump Inc was the Big Ticket. Ask the Banks that got shafted when Trump refused to pay them and argued that it was THEIR FAULT for lending him the money in the first place.

classic Trump when he fails, you fail

classic Trump when he fails, you fail

Just those who believe and follow this fool. The rest of us shake our heads and say told you so.

Tal you may have noticed Trump failed and now your nation has decended into chaos but I hope this will be short lived. Wake up america the world needs you

the world needs you finally admitting it ?

The dufus was dumped and the power has shifted slightly to a more reasonable approach but our battles are never over. The volume has been dialed down somewhat, but still a ways to go with covid still ravaging the land.

finally admitting it ?

I said the world, I wasn't referring to any thing I need

Hermits don't need much but you're nation needs commerce like everybody else. Call us! We have better prices than the roos.

Hermits don't need much but you're nation needs commerce like everybody else. Call us! We have better prices than the roos.

What are you talking about? roos eat grass and you can't out bid the Chinese. We learned to live without "commerce" as your multinationals have steadily withdrawn leaving us a post industrial wasteland, any of this familiar? We do what we have done for centuries

Wake up america the world needs youThe truth finally comes out. It is refreshing.

What are you talking about? roos eat grass and you can't out bid the Chinese. We learned to live without "commerce" as your multinationals have steadily withdrawn leaving us a post industrial wasteland, any of this familiar? We do what we have done for centuries

Well geez, you can't call us, the Chinese or the roos so who you gonna call? Exactly what have you done for centuries beside walk with the big dog through the neighborhood?

Dominion is suing Rudy for defamation .The $1.3 billion complaint claims that Rudy , Sidney Powell, Russell Ramsland, L. Lin Wood, Mike Lindell, Patrick Byrne, Lou Dobbs, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax, One America News Network, and The Epoch Times peddled " defamatory falsehoods”.

Yes Dominion has deep pockets and your typical accused would get scared off by the amount and try to settle . But Rudy is a accomplished public attorney and knows all the tricks of the trade .

All I have to say to Dominion is be careful what you wish for . Discovery is a B+tch. Rudy says that this is going to allow him to investigate Dominion “fully and completely " ;something that he was not given a chance to do during the post election challenges .

I wonder how much of that is bluster to cover his own butt, since he made some serious allegations with no show of evidence. Countersuits are a typical delay tactic and I doubt he has a strong case to open up the company books as he claims, but we'll see. Given his performance during the dufus years, I ain't betting on his horse.

Discovery baby! Dominion just bought themselves ton of trouble . For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination . If the don't then their case will be dismissed and it will give added weight to the claims made against them.

You're a lousy lawyer, and not very astute on the law since Rudy would have to prove he knew those things for FACT when he made those allegations. If he cannot then his countersuit will be dismissed and no discovery granted and judgement for the plaintiff.

Why are you even listening to a guy with his track record of failure just this year?

Rudy is an accomplished lawyer ,prosecutor ,mayor ,and civil servant . Do not underestimate him despite his inclination to theatrics . I can show you photos of him where he buffonishly dressed up as a biker to go on a sting . Still he got the job done over and over .
Discovery is what a presiding judge allows . Now I admit that filing in the DC Circus was a good move by Dominion because they will probably assign the case to that clown Sullivan .
But Federal rules are clear . "Parties may obtain discovery regarding any nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party's claim or defense.
For Rudy to be denied discovery request Dominion would have to prove that the request is not relevant

For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination .
Access to whom?

to whoever represents Rudy. Discovery is the pretrial phase when BOTH sides are permitted to investigate the facts by obtaining evidence from the other side including physical evidence, answers to inquiries depositions ,producing documents . In this case I would assume the voting machines being subject to forensic examination would be more than reasonable as well as examination of programing and source code and other e-discovery . They claim that the machines were not hooked up to the net. There is already an expert who proved that false by hacking into them during a hearing .
Dominion may try to say some of the stuff deposed is protected under something like trade secrets . A judge like Sullivan may even buy into that line of manure .

But Rudy is a accomplished public attorney and knows all the tricks of the trade .

Tom, why do you insist on being on the wrong side of every legal issue discussed here? To make matters worse, you are jumping on the bandwagon of a trio of the biggest buffoons ever to inhabit the world of jurisprudence.

Rudy is second only in his buffoonery to the buffoon-in-chief now happily departed, the nutty-as-a-fruitcake Sidney Powell who promotes bizarre QANON and sees commies under every bed, and the certifiable Lin Wood who routinely calls for assassination of those he dislikes.


from Tomder - Discovery baby! Dominion just bought themselves ton of trouble . For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination . If the don't then their case will be dismissed and it will give added weight to the claims made against them.

News Flash, Tom. Dominion has already provided all the information - that you think will reveal so much chicanery - to the officials who use their machines - codes and all. There's nothing new for Rudy to discover!

Your support of Rudy who has clearly become unhinged over the last several years is troubling.

(NOTE: The networks are already backtracking and withdrawing/apologizing for their false reporting re Dominion).

Well geez, you can't call us, the Chinese or the roos so who you gonna call? Exactly what have you done for centuries beside walk with the big dog through the neighborhood?
Tal sometimes big dogs attract unwarranted attention so maybe in future we will run with the pack

Cool the pack forms behind us like it always has. You already knew that though.

https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=SLq87lceKlQC7A

Biden : I want to vaccinate 1million people a day in the first 100 days

ummmm Trump had already achieved that before he left office

Biden ... make that 1.5 million

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/biden-vaccine-distribution/index.html

I suppose it beats forgetting where he is.

I thought this was amusing. "I think with the grace of God, the goodwill of the neighbor and the creek not rising, as the old saying goes, I think we may be able to get that to 1.5 million a day, rather than 1 million a day," he said.

So we are going to allow boys who think they are girls to go into girls restrooms and compete against girls, and we are going to applaud 900,000 humans lost a year to abortion, and yet we depend on God for help?

And there is no assurance at all in his statement. "We may be able..."

So we are going to allow boys who think they are girls to go into girls restrooms and compete against girls
Have you ever read up on the science behind that? Those boys ARE girls. If you haven't researched this (apparently, you haven't), thank God your mother didn't take DES or another estrogen-laced drug during her pregnancy with you to e.g., prevent a miscarriage.

Have you ever read up on the science behind that? Those boys ARE girls. If you haven't researched this (apparently, you haven't), thank God your mother didn't take DES or another estrogen-laced drug during her pregnancy with you to e.g., prevent a miscarriage.I have read up on it. Those boys have XY chromosomes, male sex organs, and are in every way male. In what way do you conclude they are girls? And I can hardly wait to hear your answer. Please do not link to another website that proves to be a waste of time. Just explain in your own words how you conclude they are girls.

Might add that the practice of using DES ended back in the 70's, so the boys being talked about now certainly do not fall into that category. You need a much more current explanation.

You might want to look at the CDC info on DES. No mention is made of it producing any kind of gender confusion.

https://www.cdc.gov/des/consumers/about/effects_sons.html

I have read up on it. Those boys have XY chromosomes, male sex organs, and are in every way male.
Nope, they have "broken" chromosomes that make males actually female. Since you refuse to read any of my links, I won't post any.

And you've checked with each transgender individual to find if somehow the fetus hadn't been bathed in excess estrogen, either naturally or medically?

Nope, they have "broken" chromosomes that make males actually female. Since you refuse to read any of my links, I won't post any.

And you've checked with each transgender individual to find if somehow the fetus hadn't been bathed in excess estrogen, either naturally or medically?No. There is nothing on the web to support those wild ideas. It's just wild conjecture. If there were “broken chromosomes” being found in trans people, it would be on the front page of every news site in the country.

No. There is nothing on the web to support those wild ideas. It's just wild conjecture. If there were “broken chromosomes” being found in trans people, it would be on the front page of every news site in the country.
https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/02/trans-women-not-biologically-male/

Skip past any ads and scroll down to:
No, Trans Women Are NOT ‘Biologically Male’

THAT is your weak as water evidence? From the Everydayfeminism site, you have a seven minute video by a man posing as a woman who says he cannot convince anyone other than those who already agree with him? THAT is it??? Really??? His argument is simply ridiculous.

Do you have any reputable site that agrees with your idea that trans people have "broken chromosomes"?

THAT is your weak as water evidence?
I told you to read the article.

Do you know and talk with any transwomen?

Here's from another article:
"For many people, biology defines sex, and sex is always a binary affair. Sure, postmodernists have been playing with the concept of gender for decades, but sex, well, sex is sacred, which means you're either biologically male or female. But never both. Or neither.

But biology doesn't work that way. Biological phenomena don't necessarily fit into human-ordained binary categories. So while humans insist that you're either male or female – that you have either XY or XX sex chromosomes – biology begs to differ."

Then, read Genesis 3, where sweet, innocent Eve used her free will to open up the world -- and our biology -- to endless possibilities.

I told you to read the article.
The "article" was about sixty words long. If you are even remotely serious, you would never go to a site such as "everydayfeminism.com".


Here's from another article:
"For many people, biology defines sex, and sex is always a binary affair. Sure, postmodernists have been playing with the concept of gender for decades, but sex, well, sex is sacred, which means you're either biologically male or female. But never both. Or neither.

But biology doesn't work that way. Biological phenomena don't necessarily fit into human-ordained binary categories. So while humans insist that you're either male or female – that you have either XY or XX sex chromosomes – biology begs to differ."Many assertions with no support whatsoever. Useless.


Then, read Genesis 3, where sweet, innocent Eve used her free will to open up the world -- and our biology -- to endless possibilities."Endless possibilities" like pedophilia, or necrophilia, or kleptomania, or hypersexuality, or any one of scores of other disorders? Surely you are not suggesting those are morally OK as you are trying to suggest with the trans situation? And where in the Bible do you find any support whatsoever for your idea?

You are going to have to learn that making an assertion but providing no support is the opposite of being persuasive. You tried the DES argument, but the CDC shut that down, so then you tried the "broken chromosomes" approach, and yet you have nothing to back that up. What's next, the influences of little green men? At some point you have to have a basis in fact for what you are suggesting.

The "article" was about sixty words long.
Did you deliberately read the wrong article?

Surely you are not suggesting those are morally OK as you are trying to suggest with the trans situation? And where in the Bible do you find any support whatsoever for your idea?
Jesus taught us.

This is all the article on that page. "“Yes, trans women are women, but they’re still biologically male.”Ever thought or said something like this? You might even have good intentions by stating what you think is a simple fact – after all, gender is a social construct, while sex is biological, right?
Actually, this “simple fact” of trans women being “biologically male” is inaccurate – and this misrepresentation of the truth is being used to justify some pretty hateful things.
So if you really want the facts, and to follow through on your good intentions by being a good ally, check out Riley J. Dennis’ explanation of why trans women are not biologically male.

With Love,
The Editors at Everyday Feminism"


Jesus taught us. Unless you can quote a passage for that idea that there are now "endless possibilities" that are morally acceptable, then you are being thoroughly dishonest to the point where you should be completely ashamed of yourself. I will wait patiently for that passage.

At some point you have to have a basis in fact for what you are suggesting.
From https://www.patheos.com/blogs/religioustolerance/2018/01/des-transgender/

"The precise cause of gender transition is unknown. However current research into gender identity and sexual orientation point towards processes before birth as being responsible.

A person's biological sex is determined during the conception process when an ovum is fertilized by one very lucky spermatozoon, and a zygote is produced normally with either an XY sex chromosome pair for a male, or XX pair for a female.

The bodies of all embryos start off as female. However, embryos that are biological males generally produce hormones that change their appearance to male. Thus, an ultrasound test on a ten-week-old embryo can often tell whether she or he is a biologically female or male.

In contrast, major neuron development in the brain of the fetus starts much later in pregnancy, in the middle of the second trimester.

Thus, during pregnancy, there are some processes early on that determine a person’s biological sex and their anatomical design.

However, the processes that develop the brain occur much later, in the second and third trimester. This introduces the possibility that some processes at different times during pregnancy can result in the birth of a new-born with a male body and a female brain or vice versa."


I will wait patiently for that passage.
John 15:12 (http://www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/online-bible/niv/john/15/) My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

This is all the article on that page. "“Yes, trans women are women, but they’re still biologically male.”Ever thought or said something like this? You might even have good intentions by stating what you think is a simple fact – after all, gender is a social construct, while sex is biological, right?
Actually, this “simple fact” of trans women being “biologically male” is inaccurate – and this misrepresentation of the truth is being used to justify some pretty hateful things.
You are still reading the wrong article or at least cherry-picking on top of it. Transwomen were born with external male sex organs but their chromosomes, heart, mind, brain scream "I'm a girl!" As they age and can afford it, they go through HRT, electrolysis, perhaps voice coaching, and what is known as bottom surgery to become the woman they know they are.

Your article you quoted at least had some scientific basis. However, there was not a shred of support for your "broken chromosomes" idea, and that is now officially a broken and preposterous suggestion alongside the DES hypothesis.

Your quote from Jesus is simply dishonest to an astounding level. He said nothing at all to support your silly idea that Eve's sin somehow opened the door to any and all sexual desires and feelings becoming acceptable. Have you no shame in attempting to drag Jesus into your baseless assertion?


Transwomen were born with external male sex organs but their chromosomes, heart, mind, brain scream "I'm a girl!" As usual, no support at all, and your comment that their "chromosomes...scream, 'I'm a girl,'" is just pure guesswork that is flatly wrong.

I'm done with this. I have no interest in your outlandish, unsupported ideas.

Your article you quoted at least had some scientific basis. However, there was not a shred of support for your "broken chromosomes" idea, and that is now officially a broken and preposterous suggestion alongside the DES hypothesis.
DES was a major gamechanger for babies born during the '30s through the '70s. Calculate how old those babies are today. And yes, a number of those now-adult babies are struggling with dysphoria because they are, to all appearances, women trapped in a man's body, or vice versa.

The broken chromosomes was my term for chromosomes that have been damaged or changed in some way. From https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Chromosome-Abnormalities-Fact-Sheet

Structural Abnormalities: A chromosome's structure can be altered in several ways.


Deletions: A portion of the chromosome is missing or deleted.
Duplications: A portion of the chromosome is duplicated, resulting in extra genetic material.
Translocations: A portion of one chromosome is transferred to another chromosome. There are two main types of translocation. In a reciprocal translocation, segments from two different chromosomes have been exchanged. In a Robertsonian translocation, an entire chromosome has attached to another at the centromere.
Inversions: A portion of the chromosome has broken off, turned upside down, and reattached. As a result, the genetic material is inverted.
Rings: A portion of a chromosome has broken off and formed a circle or ring. This can happen with or without loss of genetic material.


Your quote from Jesus is simply dishonest to an astounding level.
He said treat each other with love. How is that dishonest?

I have no interest in your outlandish, unsupported ideas.
Get to know people in the trans community and talk (nicely) with them, ask questions -- like I have.

He said treat each other with love. How is that dishonest?It was completely dishonest since loving each other was not the topic. The topic was your suggestion that Eve's sin opened to the door to sexual sin and abnormalities becoming moral and normal.

And the chromosome information you presented was likewise thoroughly dishonest. Everyone knows of chromosomal abnormalities, and that is nothing new. You, however, asserted that trans people had "broken chromosomes", and have presented zilch to back up that idea. Even worse, you presented material on chromosomes in the hope, I suppose, that it would make it appear that you found some support. You didn't.

I'm all for treating trans people with love and kindness. I am absolutely not for lying about what causes their problem.

And where in the Bible do you find any support whatsoever for your idea?

Genesis 3. The LGBTQIA community has been in existence for millennia. Adam and Eve, using their free will, opened up their Creator's binary plan.


It was completely dishonest since loving each other was not the topic. The topic was your suggestion that Eve's sin opened to the door to sexual sin and abnormalities becoming moral and normal.
And you think what?

And the chromosome information you presented was likewise thoroughly dishonest. Everyone knows of chromosomal abnormalities, and that is nothing new. You, however, asserted that trans people had "broken chromosomes", and have presented zilch to back up that idea. Even worse, you presented material on chromosomes in the hope, I suppose, that it would make it appear that you found some support. You didn't.
You don't read what I post, do you.

I'm all for treating trans people with love and kindness. I am absolutely not for lying about what causes their problem.
And sooooo, you think what causes their problem?

Genesis 3. The LGBTQIA community has been in existence for millennia. Adam and Eve, using their free will, opened up their Creator's binary plan.At some point you have to stop grasping at straws. Nothing at all in that passage supports your idea.


And you think what?I think your idea has not one shred of support, either in the Bible or in science. You certainly have not been able to present any.



And sooooo, you think what causes their problem?It falls in the same category as a man who thinks he is a dog, cat, Jesus, God, the devil, or whatever.

At some point you have to stop grasping at straws. Nothing at all in that passage supports your idea.
Did Adam shave every morning? Did he and Eve bathe? Did they need a bathroom? Did what are now carnivores eat fruit and plants? Were there mosquitoes and rattlesnakes? Did Adam and Eve visit what is now Australia?

And your point is?

Actually, I get your point. Pedophilia, necrophilia, kleptomania, hypersexuality, bestiality, and many other disorders are, in your view, just fine, as is a man who thinks he is a woman.

Actually, I get your point. Pedophilia, necrophilia, kleptomania, hypersexuality, bestiality, and many other disorders are, in your view, just fine, as is a man who thinks he is a woman.
So a man cannot possibly have his gender "messed up" (your take on it) by estrogen baths when he was in utero? The unlimited possibilities because of Genesis 3 don't affect humans and gender?

The trans community wants to fix what went wrong.

So a man cannot possibly have his gender "messed up" (your take on it) by estrogen baths when he was in utero? Back to the little green men again. You just have speculation completely unsupported by any evidence.


The unlimited possibilities because of Genesis 3 don't affect humans and gender?You need to learn that you saying it does not make it true. You are just putting out speculation as truth, and that is terrible. According to your idea, pedophilia, necrophilia, kleptomania, hypersexuality, bestiality, and many other disorders are just fine, as is a man who thinks he is a woman. After all, it's all of those "unlimited possibilities".

Back to the little green men again. You just have speculation completely unsupported by any evidence.

You need to learn that you saying it does not make it true. You are just putting out speculation as truth, and that is terrible. According to your idea, pedophilia, necrophilia, kleptomania, hypersexuality, bestiality, and many other disorders are just fine, as is a man who thinks he is a woman. After all, it's all of those "unlimited possibilities".

No wonder you're confused. You can't lump a bunch of stuff into one big group that aren't even remotely related nor have anything to do with transgender issues.

WG, believe anything you want about broken chromosomes or Genesis 3. You have that privilege and I'm not trying to belittle your beliefs. But if you are asked to support them, then that's where we are running afoul of each other. If you want to believe that Gen. 3 opened some mystical door of endless gender possibilities, then go for it, but at least be honest enough to admit that there is no support for that in the Bible. Saying that Jesus told us to love everyone does not support the idea of many, many gender arrangements, and it comes far short of showing that Jesus would approve of that. His testimony was that God created man and woman and put them together in marriage. Beyond that, He made no comments on gender that I can recall.

Similarly, science offers no support of a chromosomal cause for trans people. Now that the human genome has been mapped, it is a fairly straight forward undertaking to compare genomes one person to another. No genetic basis has been discovered for same sex attraction, and I feel pretty safe in saying the same is true for the trans situation.

His testimony was that God created man and woman and put them together in marriage. Beyond that, He made no comments on gender that I can recall.[No, because Eve totally messed up God's plan for only binary relationships.

Similarly, science offers no support of a chromosomal cause for trans people.
Yes, it does. More later after I get specific information from my Oklahoma trans woman friend.

“Eve totally messed up Gods plan for binary relationships.” Actually it never says that, but at least you now agree that God’s plan was for a man and a woman, and anything outside of that is outside of God’s will and plan. Progress!

If you go talk to a pedophile, you will get a pedophile friendly answer. What do you think you will get from talking to a trans person? Do you really think that person will say, "I have a mental illness that is causing this?"

“Eve totally messed up Gods plan for binary relationships.” Actually it never says that, but at least you now agree that God’s plan was for a man and a woman, and anything outside of that is outside of God’s will and plan. Progress!
I done said that awreddy! "Genesis 3. The LGBTQIA community has been in existence for millennia. Adam and Eve, using their free will, opened up their Creator's binary plan."

From https://www.christiancentury.org/article/critical-essay/nonbinary-gender-and-diverse-beauty-creation

"Just as we call God the Alpha and the Omega, implying all things from first to last and in between, the author of Genesis 1 is using a poetic device to corral the infinite diversity of creation into categories we can easily understand. For as long as there have been humans, there have been people who fall outside of the male/female binary.

A creation story from Sumer, a Meso­po­tamian society and neighbor to what would become Israel, has references from 1600 BCE to humans who are created with sex organs that are not immediately identifiable as female or male.

The Mishnah and the Talmud, the Jewish compilations of law put together between 200 CE and 500 CE, include examples of individuals who don’t fit male or female categories, including those whose sex is indeterminable, those who have characteristics of more than one sex, and those whose characteristics change over time. This tells us that even the descendants of the people who recorded Genesis 1 did not necessarily assume that the gender or sex categories seen in verse 27 were all-encompassing.

In Greek and Roman times, people born with indeterminate or ambiguous sex characteristics were called hermaphrodites, after a Greek god who exhibited both male and female traits.

Today people with a combination of different sex characteristics identify themselves as intersex, and they make up between .018 percent and 1.7 percent of the world’s population. Throughout history, doctors have attempted to 'fix' intersex infants through surgical intervention before a child can make any decisions, and sometimes even without the knowledge or consent of the parents."
If you go talk to a pedophile, you will get a pedophile friendly answer. What do you think you will get from talking to a trans person? Do you really think that person will say, "I have a mental illness that is causing this?"
No, that has never been the answer from any of my trans, bi, gay, and enby friends.

When I ask you or try to discuss something with you, why do I get a downputting, even nasty, response? Is it because you're a conservative Southern white male?

I done said that awreddy! "Genesis 3. The LGBTQIA community has been in existence for millennia. Adam and Eve, using their free will, opened up their Creator's binary plan."Then we agree that God's will is for men and women. Like I said "awreddy". Progress!


The Mishnah and the Talmud, the Jewish compilations of law put together between 200 CE and 500 CE, include examples of individuals who don’t fit male or female categories1. I doubt that is true. 2. Even if it is, there are many examples in the Bible of people who don't follow God's will. That does not mean their behavior is approved.

The rest of your passage was just stats. Still waiting to see how those "broken chromosomes" work. Better yet, just a statement that you were guessing.


When I ask you or try to discuss something with you, why do I get a downputting, even nasty, response? Is it because you're a conservative Southern white male?Wow. Gender bias, regional bias, and political bias, and all in one sentence. And you want to accuse people of "downputting"??? I question your thinking and your rationale. You insult my gender, region, and political philosophy. Who really do you think is guilty???

Then we agree that God's will is for men and women. Like I said "awreddy". Progress!
Yes, that was God's will. Then Eve ate that legendary apple.

1. I doubt that is true. 2. Even if it is, there are many examples in the Bible of people who don't follow God's will. That does not mean their behavior is approved.
It has nothing to do with following God's will!* Your lack of reading comprehension again...plus unwillingness to look beyond your literal nose.

The rest of your passage was just stats. Still waiting to see how those "broken chromosomes" work. Better yet, just a statement that you were guessing.
My trans woman friend will be reexplaining that to me this evening. Stay tuned.

Wow. Gender bias, regional bias, and political bias, and all in one sentence. And you want to accuse people of "downputting"???
And what have you done to earn my complaint?

*Let's say at birth you were born with external male sex organs plus a vagina. What would your parents have done about that?

It has nothing to do with following God's will!* Your lack of reading comprehension again...plus unwillingness to look beyond your literal nose.Everything has to do with following God's will.


And what have you done to earn my complaint?
So your behavior is someone else's fault? Interesting. As to "what I have done", I have questioned your thinking, rationale, and responses. That's how discussions go. If you don't like that, then I'll be glad to just drop it.


*Let's say at birth you were born with external male sex organs plus a vagina. What would your parents have done about that?Completely separate issue. That is not what trans-gender people are.

Everything has to do with following God's will.
If you're born with a faulty body, was that God's will? If your parents, medical professionals, and/or you make corrections, is that against God's will?

So your behavior is someone else's fault? Interesting.
People react to what each of us says or does.

Completely separate issue. That is not what trans-gender people are.
Ah! What ARE they?

If you're born with a faulty body, was that God's will? If your parents, medical professionals, and/or you make corrections, is that against God's will?You have yet to show that trans people have a "faulty body".


People react to what each of us says or does.You are responsible for your own behavior.


Ah! What ARE they?Hermaphrodites. You stated that above. Sometimes referred to as intersex.

WG, my friend, why are you aiding, abetting and enabling a TROLL?

WG, my friend, why are you aiding, abetting and enabling a TROLL?
I know, I know. I just PMed Curlyben about that thread.

I know, I know. I just PMed Curlyben about that thread.Oh for goodness sake. If it bothers you so much to have an honest discussion, then talk to someone else. You are not required to exchange with me. After all, you know how those white, southern, conservative men are. Tell me why that should not have been considered to be a race-based, gender biased statement? Should it be reported?

I asked Curlyben to move our discussion to its own thread on a different board. What we are talking about has nothing to do with the thread's topic, Giuliani, nor does it have anything to do with Current Events.

If you genuinely consider me to be a troll, please say so. I would prefer to drop it rather than accept that.

Perhaps a good way to end the night.

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