"Like I told Barack, if I reach something where there's a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign." So if the President of the United States has a disagreement with his VP, he is going to tell us he has a disease and resign? The pres is going to resign because his subordinate disagrees with him? These next four years are going to be many things, and entertaining is certainly going to be one of them.

When did he say that?

Two days ago. https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-kamala-harris-interview-resign-disease?fbclid=IwAR3-GsyUk_KYrukUw2tSZclFz-rzlwE0wa13hKNFLhEETfIelOsvyLoVjv4

Yeah I found all the right wing spin on Biden's comments.

Biden jokes ‘he’ll RESIGN and develop mystery disease’ if he ever argues with VP Kamala Harris (thesun.co.uk) (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13388691/biden-vows-resign-argues-vp-kamala-harris-disease/)


Biden (http://the-sun.com/who/joe-biden), 78, said: "Our philosophy of government is sympatico on how we want to approach these issues that we're facing.
"And when we disagree, we just – so far it's been just like when Barack [Obama] and I did - it's in private. She'll say 'I think we should do A,B,C, or D.' And I'll say 'I like A, I don't like B and C' - and just go 'okay.'

Yeah it will be interesting and I expect you wingers will jump on everything. It is your turn though to be fair and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

And Biden concluded with "And we [he and Harris, the same as he and Obama] don’t have that…and we’ve discussed at length our views on foreign policy, on domestic policy, on intelligence.”

I see that conservative websites are turning a short humorous comment (a JOKE, guys!!!) into something it wasn't meant to be. Like Mom telling you, "You can have three of those freshly baked chocolate chip cookies after you've gone over the Horseshoe Falls in a barrel."

In other words, "No, we're NOT going to disagree!" and "No, you're NOT getting any cookies!"

He said, just seconds before that comment, "All kidding aside." So no, I don't think we can say it was a humorous statement. But even at that, why would he think that HE would be the one to go? And if he really thinks the two of them will not disagree, then his cognition really needs to be checked. That's Alice in Wonderland thinking.

But even worse, if he really agrees with all of KH's thinking, then we are in worse trouble than I thought.

JL, relax!!! You're turning this into something much bigger than it was. Jokers will say, "all kidding aside." That's how you know for sure they're kidding.

And no, Biden doesn't agree with Harris on everything. Remember the debates???

Why should he do interviews ? This hiding in the basement worked great during the campaign .He is the Tiberius of America. The leader who goes into a self imposed exile .

Hiding in the basement ... or ... DISASTER! having superspreader rallies and events rife with packed-together crowds, hand shaking, hugging and kissing...no masks, no social distancing....

Talk shows ... the host is "in his basement" interviewing the guests who are "in their basements." Watch The View, Dr. Phil, Rachael Ray, Kelly Clarkson, and even the new season of sitcoms that have been filmed very carefully and strategically.

JL, relax!!! You're turning this into something much bigger than it was. Jokers will say, "all kidding aside." That's how you know for sure they're kidding.Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.


And no, Biden doesn't agree with Harris on everything.Well, you said they did. "And we [he and Harris, the same as he and Obama] don’t have that"

So if they disagree, he's stepping down? My. How reassuring.

Reading comprehension is not your forte, JL.

Bad when a teacher can't READ or comprehend. He must be a right wing loony in disguise.

Admitting when you are plainly and obviously wrong is your weakness. And when you can't do that, would that make you a dufus left winger in disguise?

WG, I think it's always the argument of the weak or uninformed when they appeal to nothing more than someone else's reading comprehension. In other words, "I can't find the information to persuade you, so that is somehow your fault." Very strange approach.

Tal, I still can't get over that comment of yours. "Homey ain't gonna like that one." In what unused corner of your mind did that one come from?

Admitting when you are plainly and obviously wrong is your weakness.
...he said about himself, remembering all those times in the past when he was yelled at.

WG, I think it's always the argument of the weak or uninformed when they appeal to nothing more than someone else's reading comprehension. In other words, "I can't find the information to persuade you, so that is somehow your fault." Very strange approach.
It's there in this thread. I even looked back to make sure. But then, you don't read links we post or read back in these threads. *sigh*

...he said about himself, remembering all those times in the past when he was yelled at.How do you manage to be so frequently wrong? It's a gift, isn't it??


It's there in this thread. I even looked back to make sure. But then, you don't read links we post or read back in these threads. *sigh*You said that last time. Sigh. You were flat wrong, so we don't believe that wild tale anymore. Too close to a lie for comfort.

Remember???

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847830&page=6&p=3861082#post3861082

Look at the post 112 right above it as well. You flatly told a falsehood, or you were grossly mistaken. Either way, I don't pay attention to your sighs anymore.

Hiding in the basement ... or ... DISASTER! having superspreader rallies and events rife with packed-together crowds, hand shaking, hugging and kissing...no masks, no social distancing....

Talk shows ... the host is "in his basement" interviewing the guests who are "in their basements." Watch The View, Dr. Phil, Rachael Ray, Kelly Clarkson, and even the new season of sitcoms that have been filmed very carefully and strategically.

I fail to see what that has to do with the question about why Quid doesn't do interviews . I follow him on Twitter and all he does is word salad platitudes .
(1) Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JoeBiden)

When he does interviews it is almost with pop pom waving pseudo journalists /entertainers like Jimmy Fallon . The toughest one he has had is with Jake Tapper where he described how he ran naked down the hallway trying to pull his dog's tail . That is allegedly how he broke his foot. You and I know that was a lie.

During the campaign he fielded nothing but softball questions like the one he did with '60 Minutes ' right before the election .

By contrast Trump routinely went into the lion's den at CNN et al knowing he would field one 'gotcha question ' after another .

Quid's great plan for covid ...... wear masks .

The toughest one he has had is with Jake Tapper where he described how he ran naked down the hallway trying to pull his dog's tail .Thankfully, I did not see that interview.


During the campaign he fielded nothing but softball questions like the one he did with '60 Minutes ' right before the election .

By contrast Trump routinely went into the lion's den at CNN et al knowing he would field one 'gotcha question ' after another .Exactly correct. The biased news media is a big reason Trump lost this thing. That and his own stubborn stupidity.

The dufus words antics and behavior got the dem vote out, and even long time repubs were motivated against him. No matter the right wing spin and criticism Joe did enough to win or not to lose even while the dufus increased his support base.

Outcome Joe! Conservatives have been crying about the lamestream media so long it's no wonder they get a raw deal. That and just being raging lunatics most times with a callous disregard for the rest of us with their openly biased shenanigans that turn off the the poor and have nots which they're finding out have some huge numbers when they turn out to exercise their franchise.

A robust turn out worked against the dufus and collectively, hopefully the emotional political volume was turned down considerably. Ultimately the fear of sickness, death, and financial ruin was too much for the dufus usual BS to overcome against a highly well known experienced favorable politician!

Right wing hollering points just didn't stick, yet that's all you guys had. 3 years of BS lies didn't help conservatives either as far as the dufus was concerned.

1. Record low unemployment figures. 2. Substantial economic growth. 3. Substantial growth in manufacturing jobs, far, far more than Obama ever had. 4. Appointment of fed judges who actually value the Constitution and rule of law. 5. Got rid of the useless Paris Climate Accords. 6. Got rid of a useless treaty with Iran. 7. At least made a start on a southern wall in order to control illegal immigration. 8. Moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. 9. Fast tracked COVID vaccine. 10. Drew down overseas troop deployments. 11. Substantially increased U.S. exports. 12. Growth in the stock market. 13. Kept N. Korea under control. 14. Achieved American energy independence. 15. Held the American economy together during COVID epidemic and surpassed predictions in lowering unemployment BY FAR.

I think you're the one with the BS.

Might want to also remember that we gained seats in the House and in state legislatures, and have a good shot at holding the Senate. The fact that the left could not use the COVID tragedy to make more progress is telling. I'll predict right now that the dems will have massive losses in the House and Senate after two years of Harris/Pelosi/AOC.

We booted the dufus from office to put an end to red meat racists delusions of grandeur by you wingers. All those so called accomplishments are talking points of the past. Half of them are puffed up talking points and the other half are meaning less lies. Right wing loony BS.

Nice spin to keep your heads from exploding. Go ahead finish off the rest of the repub party or what's left of those scoundrels.

Yet another well-reasoned, logical, coherent response about heads exploding, racist delusions, "meaning less lies", and scoundrels.

Thank you! Bout time you figured it out.

You can certainly be assured that I have it figured out.

Care to share?

Sure. I tallied fifteen or so accomplishments of the Trump admin. You could not contradict any of them, so you just went off on an incoherent rant.

In my neighborhood we don't pat ourselves on the back, and you only get credit for a job well done after the job has been well done. I'm on record on this forum for that regarding past presidents. To your list specifically

1. Record low unemployment figures. Did US Unemployment Reach Record Low Due to Trump? (snopes.com) (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/unemployment-low-trump/)


The president rightly takes credit for having low unemployment during his presidency. In December of 2019, the unemployment rate was a scant 3.5 percent, the lowest it had been in 50 years.
However, as good as that number was, when Trump took office the rate was already at 4.7 percent. That figure is quite low by historical standards (lower than all of the 1980s as well as most of the 1990s and 2000s). In December of 2017, it was the lowest the number had been since the Great Recession. In fact, Obama saw a much steeper drop in unemployment in his second term, a 3.3 drop in the rate, than Trump did in his first three years, a decline of 1.2 points.
2. Substantial economic growth. Trump’s Economic Scorecard: 3 Years In Office (forbes.com) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/10/trumps-economic-scorecard-3-years-in-office/?sh=6955e57f7847)

3. Substantial growth in manufacturing jobs, far, far more than Obama ever had.
Fact-check: Did Trump overstate manufacturing job gains during debate? (statesman.com) (https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/01/fact-check-did-trump-overstate-manufacturing-job-gains-during-debate/114197350/)

4. Appointment of fed judges who actually value the Constitution and rule of law.
TBD

5. Got rid of the useless Paris Climate Accords.
To be rectified

6. Got rid of a useless treaty with Iran.
To be renegotiated

7. At least made a start on a southern wall in order to control illegal immigration.
YUP!

8. Moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.
PFFFT

9. Fast tracked COVID vaccine.
Under discussion

10. Drew down overseas troop deployments.
One I can give you...good or bad.

11. Substantially increased U.S. exports.
Trump's War on US Exports | PIIE (https://www.piie.com/blogs/trade-and-investment-policy-watch/trumps-war-us-exports)

12. Growth in the stock market.
OKAY? Even with the trillions of dollars of infusion by Fed....

13. Kept N. Korea under control. Threat from nuclear weapons has grown under Trump administration | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nuclear-weapons-missiles-north-korea-china-russia-b1009550.html)

14. Achieved American energy independence. The REAL story (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence)

15. Held the American economy together during COVID epidemic and surpassed predictions in lowering unemployment BY FAR.

Sure with trillions in bailouts which ain't a bad thing, but are expiring in the next few weeks unless the congress acts again.

sounds like you are a Trump fan Tal if a little reluctant. No list like that could be produced for Obumma

sounds like you are a Trump fan Tal if a little reluctant. No list like that could be produced for Obumma
It's jlisenbe's list with TAL's comments for each.

yes but it seems like he agrees

yes but it seems like he agrees
Where?

OK. Just to humor you, I looked at your first three links. As is always the case, they prove...NOTHING. The Snopes article admitted that unemployment was at record lows, but refused to attribute it to Trump. That it happened in Trump's first term in indisputable.

As to the second point, that we had substantial economic growth in his first three years was not even disputed, so what was the point? And right in middle of the article was this: "Unemployment rate is about as low as it can go." Did you see that?

As to the third point, you have somewhat of an issue there. There is no question but that manufacturing has grown substantially under Trump. In fact, 2019 was the best year in the past 30 years. "U.S. enjoys best manufacturing jobs growth of the last 30 years."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/manufacturing-employment-in-the-us-is-at-the-same-level-of-69-years-ago-2019-01-04

...despite Trump.

OK. Just to humor you, I looked at your first three links. As is always the case, they prove...NOTHING. The Snopes article admitted that unemployment was at record lows, but refused to attribute it to Trump. That it happened in Trump's first term in indisputable.

As to the second point, that we had substantial economic growth in his first three years was not even disputed, so what was the point? And right in middle of the article was this: "Unemployment rate is about as low as it can go." Did you see that?

LOL, Obama brought the rate to 4.7 after the recession highs, but the dufus dropping it down a point gives him credit for record lows. You wingers are LOONY!

BREAKING NEWS

Supreme Court denies Trump allies’ bid to overturn Pennsylvania election results (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-denies-trump-allies-bid-to-overturn-pennsylvania-election-results/ar-BB1bKzAD?ocid=msedgntp)

He had his chance for his day in court but he blew it for lack of evidence.

Supreme Court unlikely to help Donald Trump's allies overturn election (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/08/supreme-court-unlikely-help-donald-trumps-allies-overturn-election/6492261002/)

Why post an old link, acknowledged there were positives during Trump's term, and now we will see what positives Biden will round up, reducing covid deaths would be a big plus

Why post an old link, acknowledged there were positives during Trump's term, and now we will see what positives Biden will round up, reducing covid deaths would be a big plus

I'm throwing rocks at JL, maybe you should duck! Hard to give a selfish lying, cheating dufus any credit while he carries on with this shameless attempt to subvert the will of the people. State repubs aren't doing what he dictates and neither is his new fixer Barr, or his handpicked SCOTUS.

gives him credit for record lowsPerhaps that is because...he set records for low unemployment figures? You think?

He couldn't have done what he done without Obama doing what he did could he? Like the repub dufus before him, this repub dufus leaves with a mess the new guy has to clean up.

Will you give this dufus credit for that?

He couldn't have done what he done without Obama doing what he did could he?No one has suggested otherwise, but that does not mean that the economy did not set records for low unemployment under his four years.

As to leaving a mess, that is really a crazy statement. Have you heard of the COVID virus that has messed up the entire world's economy? And aren't you the guy who has been loudly claiming that we have been paying TOO MUCH attention to the economy???

TDS. The symptoms are very clear.

No one has suggested otherwise, but that does not mean that the economy did not set records for low unemployment under his four years.

If I started on 3rd base I could score too! If HC had been elected, she would have set records too!


As to leaving a mess, that is really a crazy statement. Have you heard of the COVID virus that has messed up the entire world's economy? And aren't you the guy who has been loudly claiming that we have been paying TOO MUCH attention to the economy???

I don't fault the storm that we ran into, just the reaction too it.


TDS. The symptoms are very clear.

Is that as bad as SSDUDA? I doubt it. My symptoms have cleared and I hope yours do to.

If I started on 3rd base I could score too! If HC had been elected, she would have set records too!Obama had eight years and didn't get it done. HC would have done it? Sure she would have.


Is that as bad as SSDUDA? I doubt it. My symptoms have cleared and I hope yours do to.Nah. One is a recognized malady that actually has a Wikipedia page, and you have an abundance of symptoms. The other is just an dumb comment.

Obama had eight years and didn't get it done. HC would have done it? Sure she would have.

Point taken. Took him all eight years to get us within a point of the record low unemployment after the recession. Maybe if the dufus had another term he could have done better but obviously his first term was quite enough to get him booted for Obama's vice. I'll just note for the record that Obama got his second term without getting it all the way done but obviously whomever followed benefited from his work.


Nah. One is a recognized malady that actually has a Wikipedia page, and you have an abundance of symptoms. The other is just an dumb comment.

Your malady may not have Wikipedia page, but boy, do you have all the symptoms. You need emergency extraction immediately!

of the record low unemployment Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.

Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.
He was talking about Obama patching up W's recession.

Nope, not in the quote I gave.

Nope, not in the quote I gave.
Comprehension problems here! Whose presidency lasted for eight years? Whose recession was it? (Your quote was from Tal's "Took him all eight years to get us within a point of the record low unemployment after the recession.")

You haven’t been keeping up. Tal had basically said there were no records set. His statement above, however, was an affirmation that records had been set. So my comprehension was quite good as it turns out.

Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.

No he didn't he just took the credit. You just keep spinning stuff and it's no wonder your so dizzy. You get no credit for building a house if all you did was polish the doorknob.

Are you crazy (Obviously a dumb question, but just as obviously a real concern)?

Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit. It cannot be denied. If I deny that, then I qualify as being crazy.

Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit.
He gave himself credit. His yes-people cheered him on.

And Obama didn't give himself credit, including his "yes people" on this board? Your selective criticism is so typical of the symptoms of TDS.

He gave himself credit. His yes-people cheered him on.
Lots of Tweets and videos and rally quotes....

What are your top three reasons for disliking Obama, JL?

Lots of Tweets and videos and rally quotes....
And that was not true of Obama??? Stop your selective outrage. It is unbecoming for an intelligent person.


What are your top three reasons for disliking Obama, JL?I didn't dislike Obama which is why I don't waste my time making up insulting nicknames for him. I disliked his policies. 1. His enthusiastic support for abortion and his appointing fed judges who would support abortion. 2. His refusal to develop a balanced budget when he had 8 years to do it. 3. His outrageous lying about Benghazi in order to win an election. 4. His moving us down the road of socialism with Obamacare. 5. His weak as water economic recovery which was the slowest recovery from a recession in something like a hundred years. 6. His racist polices towards the police. 7. I can't blame Obama for this, but the unceasing support he had from a plainly biased and prejudiced press.

Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit. It cannot be denied. If I deny that, then I qualify as being crazy.

Bingo! At last you admit that because of warped thinking you give the dufus credit for his small part in setting a record Obama worked for that happened on the dufus watch. I notice the credit you give Obama for his working through his own financial downturn left by the other dufus is always described with sideways snark and derision, and criticism yet you expect all that to be forgotten as you pedestalize your dufus.

Yeah that's crazy.

Actually, I was just agreeing with your statement.

"of the record low unemployment"

But I could put it this way, and it is unarguably true. "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.

Doesn't square on balance with his incompetence in leading the country through this crisis if it was even partially true. To be fair the virus has exposed everybody's flaws and weaknesses.

8000 dead just this week already leaves little room for anyone to get an attaboy. Nor justify his insane quest to overturn the will of the people without any...wait for it.....evidence​ of wrongdoing.

We weren't talking about the whole story of the Trump admin. We were discussing unemployment figures. So I would just repeat, "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.

As to your statement above, there is some truth to it, and some falseness.

We weren't talking about the whole story of the Trump admin. We were discussing unemployment figures. So I would just repeat, "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.

As to your statement above, there is some truth to it, and some falseness.

yes it all has to do with Trump's "economic genius" or maybe it was that the US recovered from a recession of their own making. Either way I happen to think leaders don't have as much to do with it as they would like you to think

It was our own fat greedy rich guys that screwed the world for sure and I might have agreed leaders really don't do much for the economy until the dufus showed up and wrote his name on everything and claimed he did it. It's been down hill since.

It was our own fat greedy rich guys that screwed the world for sure and I might have agreed leaders really don't do much for the economy until the dufus showed up and wrote his name on everything and claimed he did it. It's been down hill since.My goodness. Such hate speech about fat people! Shame.

It was actually uphill until Covid hit, and it would still be otherwise.

Dontcha just hate it when stuff happens? And that was fat greedy rich people...I was specific.

You mean the ones who pay nearly all of the income taxes?

Dontcha just hate it when stuff happens? And that was fat greedy rich people...I was specific.

Not specific enough, you meant Trump but jl is back focused on those rich people who pay taxes and yet he gives his buddy trump who doesn't a pass

I haven't given anyone a pass. Trump's returns are looked at annually by the IRS, and anyone who thinks the IRS is giving him a pass is an idiot. And as much as the truth irritates people here, it is simply a fact that wealthy people pay close to ninety percent of fed income taxes, so any call for "tax fairness" is a call being made by an ignorant dufusite. (Yeah...I borrowed the term.)

You know, don't you, that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxes and the poor pay nothing, since the rich have 100% of the advantage and 100% of the property and the poor have nothing. The dufus here is you

that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxesWe have discussed this before. You seem perfectly happy to let others do your "charity" for you. My feeling is that anyone blessed enough to live in this country should shoulder at least some of the load for running the place. It's a responsibility we should all undertake and be happy to do it. To suggest the poor have "nothing" is ridiculous. They certainly have less, much less in fact, but they do not have "nothing" as a general rule. If they have nothing else, they have the golden opportunity of living here and, assuming the person is physically and mentally capable, being free to make a success out of his/her life.

And before you start trying to lecture me on the condition of the poor, I would guess that I have a hundred times more experience of working with poor people than you do. And unlike you, it seems, I have put my own time and money into play to help them rather than depending on taxing the rich to do it.

You are welcome to believe as you will, but I am not going to let you or anyone else on this board get away with portraying your fake charity as something noble. You care so much for poor people that you are willing to force others to help them? Sorry, but not impressed.

You're position is fine, nothing new or different from what I've heard for decades. We voted already for a different direction though than the one we were on and that my friend is the true beauty of America. Next election in two years. The only question to be answered in this cycle is which party will control the senate, and that answer will be in about a month or so. After that it's game on! The debate continues!