Trump broke a two-day silence with reporters to deliver a brief statement filled with egregious falsehoods and smears about the election process.

He painted the election results so far as part of a broad conspiracy to deprive him of a second term by Democrats, election officials, and the news media.

“If you count the legal votes, I easily win,” Trump said today, a false statement for which he offered no evidence; instead, he listed a series of conspiracy theories.

He then listed a series of successful Republican wins on Tuesday and appeared unaware of the cognitive dissonance in saying that other Republicans had won while he lost as he claimed a plot to harm him.

True to form to the very end.

Dump may be right there is massive rorting in this election eg not one vote for Trump in 100,000 mail votes

@Athos/ Don't judge the dufus by what he says, but by what he does. Boy is he whining and lying, and losing.

@Clete. What do you mean? He has 47.8% of the vote! Clean your glasses for gosh sake.

@Athos/ Don't judge the dufus by what he says, but by what he does.

I judge Trump by what he says AND does. There's no other way.

@Athos/ Don't judge the dufus by what he says, but by what he does. Boy is he whining and lying, and losing.

@Clete. What do you mean? He has 47.8% of the vote! Clean your glasses for gosh sake.tal you cant believe the media media speak with forked tongue there is a concerted demonrat effort to steal the election

@Athos/ Don't judge the dufus by what he says, but by what he does.

What he says is far more dangerous than what Trump does. Keep in mind his words have caused criminal murderous actions by his followers - Charlottesville, El Paso, Pittsburgh, Georgia, and more - all murders committed and encouraged by the words of Trump. Add dozens of violent criminal actions injuring innocent people - all inspired by Trump's words.

So, yes, I will judge Trump by his words - we all should do the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RCQDDsMpU

I don't care how much noise the dufus makes going OUT the door.

I don't care how much noise the dufus makes going OUT the door.so you dont mind being called a liar and a cheat

Focus! The goal is to dump the dufus.

Your goal but not by any means

Everybody and their mama has eyes on the process of removing the dufus. It's about over except the shouting.

Trump lies to be replaced by Biden lies. Don't kid yourself. The difference will be a loud-mouthed, undisciplined non-pol being replaced by a slick, clever, well-trained, lifetime pol who will be robotically controlled by a committee since he no longer has the brain power to make his own decisions. So in other words, his lies will be much more carefully contrived.

I wonder when the Turkeys will realize they voted for Thanksgiving.....especially in PA where the Dems have promised to destroy the state's economy since 2008 .

Trump lies to be replaced by Biden lies. Don't kid yourself. The difference will be a loud-mouthed, undisciplined non-pol being replaced by a slick, clever, well-trained, lifetime pol who will be robotically controlled by a committee since he no longer has the brain power to make his own decisions. So in other words, his lies will be much more carefully contrived.

...and hopefully less numerous and a lot less vociferous and onerous.


I wonder when the Turkeys will realize they voted for Thanksgiving.....especially in PA where the Dems have promised to destroy the state's economy since 2008 .

The votes were close.

Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3860374#post3860374)
I wonder when the Turkeys will realize they voted for Thanksgiving.....especially in PA where the Dems have promised to destroy the state's economy since 2008 .

The votes were close.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by jlisenbe https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3860372#post3860372)
Trump lies to be replaced by Biden lies. Don't kid yourself. The difference will be a loud-mouthed, undisciplined non-pol being replaced by a slick, clever, well-trained, lifetime pol who will be robotically controlled by a committee since he no longer has the brain power to make his own decisions. So in other words, his lies will be much more carefully contrived.

...and hopefully less numerous and a lot less vociferous and onerous.

The nightmare is (almost) over.


What Trump supporters are painfully slow to learn is that Character is Destiny.


A man who lies all the time isn't going to keep his promises.


A man who steals from his own charitable foundation cannot be trusted.


A man who cheats contractors and employees out of money owed to them is a crook.


A man who has cheated on all three wives is a terrible husband and father.


A man who has over 20 women coming forward with varying degrees of sexual assault is despicable.


A man who knows a deadly airborne virus is killing thousands of Americans and calls it a Democratic hoax is unfit to lead. Despite the deadly airborne virus Trump continued to hold maskless rallies. He has a reckless disregard for human life never before seen in a President.

Hopefully, the Trump supporters will wake up and smell the coffee. In the meantime, (the next two months) the insanity of Trump may yet prove destructive. Even within the White House, Trump's aides are worried he will do something dangerous.

It's not over yet.

it's over bar the shouting, proving those votes are invalid will be an uphill battle

Character is Destiny.Says the man who voted for H. Clinton, Biden, and ultimately K Harris.

Quid to the public ' spread the faith ' ....to Hunter 'spread the payout .... 10% for the big guy ' .

Mass migration to Georgia this month .New residents may 'move' to Georgia up until Dec 7 to vote in the January 5 runoff of both their Senate seats . After stealing the Predental election the Dems are going to try to steal the Senate

Cheese with that whine or whatever you're smoking?

Mass migration to Georgia this month .New residents may 'move' to Georgia up until Dec 7 to vote in the January 5 runoff of both their Senate seats .
Those migrants must be residents for at least 30 days before they can vote. Sounds complicated. Where will they live? What about their families and friends back home? Doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble.

After stealing the Predental election the Dems are going to try to steal the Senate
Everyone will get a different dentist? Will implants be required?

Those migrants must be residents for at least 30 days before they can vote. Sounds complicated. Where will they live? What about their families and friends back home? Doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble. I guess . But I remember Senator Bobby Kennedy NY who had a hotel address and never spent a day living in NY .

Cheese with that whine or whatever you're smoking?

make mine blue vein

I guess . But I remember Senator Bobby Kennedy NY who had a hotel address and never spent a day living in NY .
Sorta like Trump....

seriously ? Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .

seriously ? Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .
Not what I'd heard (am from NY). He and his dad were racists, ingratiators with local politicians, et al.

and what developer and politician isn't in that cesspool

Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .

Whatever you're smokin', Tom, time to change your brand.

NYC despised Trump - from his playboy days in the 70s to today. In 2016 and 2020 the voters overwhelmingly voted against Trump. Something like 80-20 against. An enormous spread for a local boy. Even Queens, his home borough where he grew up totally rejected Trump.

Not what I'd heard (am from NY). He and his dad were racists, ingratiators with local politicians, et al.That's what you heard? Well, that certainly settles it.


. In 2016 and 2020 the voters overwhelmingly voted against Trump. Something like 80-20 against. When was the last time NYC went overwhelmingly for a repub? At any rate, it wasn't quite as bleak as you suggest. "But the results, while consistent among four boroughs, nearly flip-flopped between Clinton and Republican nominee (and now president-elect) Donald Trump on Staten Island. There, Trump secured the majority with 57 percent of the vote and Clinton getting 40 percent. In Queens, the borough where Trump grew up, 20 percent of voters showed their support for the businessman."

https://abc7ny.com/election-2016-nyc-results-president/1598306/

Getting nostalgic for the better days of yesterday JL? I can dig that. The dufus did get 70 million votes this go round, and that's something even if he did fall short. Even if you cannot join the other half of the country and most of the world in celebration I'm sure we all can relate to what falling short feels like at times like these. Not like we haven't been there before and not that long ago.

For now it's OUR time, and enjoy it we will.

For now it's OUR time, and enjoy it we will.

well maybe, remember what your time did for you last time, a draconian implementation of a health care system and continuation of wars

a draconian implementation of a health care system

Your definition of "draconian" apparently includes health care for millions that previously were without health care. Give me draconian any day.

Your definition of "draconian" apparently includes health care for millions that previously were without health care. Give me draconian any day.

I'm not against health care but about not making the community pay outlandish costs for it, you see one aspect of implementing socialism is taxation in many forms

I'm not against health care but about not making the community pay outlandish costs for it, you see one aspect of implementing socialism is taxation in many forms

Your objection then is cost, NOT free universal health care. I agree with you.

Biden, as I understand it, wants to increase taxes on the wealthy in order to promote "fairness", as evidently the top 20% of income earners paying 87% of fed income taxes while the bottom 50% only pay 3% is somehow not fair enough. Perhaps by a near miracle that will result in an additional 400 bil in tax revenues. The dem Congress, having learned nothing from their losses in the election, will propose Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, though they will call them something else due to those terms having developed some bad vibes. No one has any idea what the bill will be, but an additional 2 to 4 trillion dollars a year sounds reasonable. This will be on top of the 3 tril or so economic package designed to stimulate an economy that was already recovering nicely and needs no stimulus. So we can anticipate a completely unprecedented budget deficit next year of many trillions of dollars, which in a sane world would blow our minds, but in the brave new world of liberal dems will sound very normal. It all has "Impending Doom" written all over it, but liberal dems on this site will still rejoice since the man they absolutely loved to hate will be out of office, and that's what it was really all about.

Good luck to all of us.


NOT free universal health careThere is no such thing as "free" health care. It is much more accurate to call it "Borrowed Money Healthcare".

So I guess the rising infection rates of covid are just to be ignored since we ain't got no money? The sick probably ain't got none either.

There was a time when not having money was considered a really good reason to not spend money.

I'm sure hungry and cold or sick isn't one of them.

And you are personally helping these people? Bet not.

My best efforts are limited and inadequate, as are those of most individuals or even charities to address the great need that is prevalent, and do believe as a nation we should be willing to do what we can to protect those through no fault of their own fall short of helping themselves, or have the least.

I'll be honest I hate disclosing the time I've put in with church and civic groups mostly because it's a very personal thing between me and the God that I'm learning to understand. I hope YOU understand and don't bet against me and my paltry efforts, I'm doing the best I can with what I have.

I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to get you to understand that when we allow our stupid fed govt to go out and borrow multiple trillions of dollars to meet the budget, then it is no different than us going out and borrowing the money personally. And if we continue to allow these crooked, despicable pols to get away with it, then we are as dumb as they are. No one here would borrow money to give to charity, but that's what you expect our govt to do in our name. That is not sound thinking.

If we want it, then let's pay for it. To put it on the backs of our children and grandchildren is the most cowardly, sickening, pathetic approach to government I can possibly imagine. It is a game of fantasy that will have terrible consequences.

No one here would borrow money to give to charity, but that's what you expect our govt to do in our name. That is not sound thinking.
Other Americans and I pay taxes (income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, and real estate taxes) with the trust that the money will be used to help everyone, both rich and poor -- e.g., building and repairing streets and roads/bridges, national defense, Social Security and health care, interest on the national debt, education, transportation, and law enforcement.

Other Americans and I pay taxes (income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, and real estate taxes) with the trust that the money will be used to help everyone, both rich and poor -- e.g., building and repairing streets and roads/bridges, national defense, Social Security and health care, interest on the national debt, education, transportation, and law enforcement.I get that, and I basically agree with you to a large extent. HOWEVER, they are spending our tax money, and then they are borrowing out the wazoo as well, and this coming year has all the potential to be a nightmare in that regard. Now if a person cares nothing about the future, then that plan is fine, but if you want to leave a bright future for your children and grandchildren, then you cannot ignore this.

One more point. The federal government has no mandate to provide for individuals. It's mandate is to do that which helps everyone.

Other Americans and I pay taxes (income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, and real estate taxes) with the trust that the money will be used to help everyone, both rich and poor -- e.g., building and repairing streets and roads/bridges, national defense, Social Security and health care, interest on the national debt, education, transportation, and law enforcement.

Everything you say is true, but the now-dismissed-toddler-in-chief supporters will come back with decrying the increase in the national debt because of such an "unfair" tax burden or spending or whatever the reason du jour happens to be.

However, they always fail to note that the debt has INCREASED enormously under Trump and the Republicans, even before the pandemic. Much of Trump's increase has been the result of his massive reduction in taxes for the wealthiest people in the nation.

My best efforts are limited and inadequate, as are those of most individuals or even charities to address the great need that is prevalent, and do believe as a nation we should be willing to do what we can to protect those through no fault of their own fall short of helping themselves, or have the least.

These words or something very like them are inscribed at the heart of every religion in the world. The Scrooges of the world who see only the cost will always be with us.

Actually they don't borrow they sell bonds just like cities do for capital projects and private sector companies.

Actually they don't borrow they sell bonds just like cities do for capital projects and private sector companies.

Tal, I tried to send you a private message but your inbox is at capacity and needs to be cleared.

The process is simple, the pigs with their snout in the trough keep snorting for more food and the fatter they grow the more their hunger increases. Fat little piggies get a higher price at market

Actually they don't borrow they sell bonds just like cities do for capital projects and private sector companies.No, they don't. It's not at all the same. Municipal bonds are for set periods and get paid back in the same sense that you pay your house mortgage, and they are generally used to fund special projects like schools or road construction. The feds use it simply to fund day to day operations, and no one pretends that they plan on paying back the fed debt. It's borrowed money on which they merely pay interest. That's why fed debt, as a percentage of GDP, has risen from around 30% in 1980 to its current 136% and rising fast. It's your kind of excuse making that must stop before the public will get the courage, if it ever does, to force a stop to it. It is cowardice on an enormous scale on our parts. We want to spend the money without paying the taxes. All gain and no pain for today and the heck with tomorrow.

borrowing long to pay day to day expenses is always a recipe for disaster, sooner or later you will have to repudiate the national debt and become a banana republic

borrowing long to pay day to day expenses is always a recipe for disaster, sooner or later you will have to repudiate the national debt and become a banana republicWe're not in this alone, if that's any consolation. Many European nations are following a similarly insane path as is Japan.

We're not in this alone, if that's any consolation. Many European nations are following a similarly insane path as is Japan.

Yes I know and we have increased debt to pay for CV19 programs. In one year we have gone from surplus to mortgaging the next generation. It is insane but then politicians of all persuasions have to look good

borrowing long to pay day to day expenses is always a recipe for disaster, sooner or later you will have to repudiate the national debt and become a banana republic

Not always. The US incurred a tremendous debt to pay for WW2 which was not repudiated and did not result in the US becoming a banana republic.

Not always. The US incurred a tremendous debt to pay for WW2 which was not repudiated and did not result in the US becoming a banana republic.

I'm talking about the path you are now on

The US incurred a tremendous debt to pay for WW2 which was not repudiated and did not result in the US becoming a banana republic.What Athos forgot to tell you was this. During both World Wars and the Great Depression, national debt rose, but then fell precipitously because we had enough sense to know that incurring debt during good economic times was stupid. The explosion of debt over the past forty years is unprecedented, and deficit spending every year, year after year, is now considered the norm. The next four years are going to be disastrous in that regard. Neither party is willing to take a stand for fiscal sanity, and no one seems to believe that having a plan to pay for new expenditures has any real importance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_Federal_Debt_Held_By_Public_as_of_Sep._202 0.png

I'm talking about the path you are now on

Ok, but that's not what you said initially.

What Athos forgot to tell you was this. During both World Wars and the Great Depression, national debt rose, but then fell precipitously because we had enough sense to know that incurring debt during good economic times was stupid. The explosion of debt over the past forty years is unprecedented, and deficit spending every year, year after year, is now considered the norm. The next four years are going to be disastrous in that regard. Neither party is willing to take a stand for fiscal sanity, and no one seems to believe that having a plan to pay for new expenditures has any real importance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_Federal_Debt_Held_By_Public_as_of_Sep._202 0.png

Thank FDR for that with his social and fiscal policy.


Not always. The US incurred a tremendous debt to pay for WW2 which was not repudiated and did not result in the US becoming a banana republic.

Economic stimulus has spurred growth and bananas are tasty, but our republic doesn't need them to thrive and survive during a crisis or any other obstacle.

Thank FDR for that with his social and fiscal policy.FDR increased the national debt every year he served.

So did the dufus so what's your point?

THAT DEFICIT SPENDING DURING GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES IS A TERRIBLE IDEA!! Repub pres and dem House, and neither did anything to stop it. You, of course, only mentioned Trump, but now you have a pres who has stated he is going to start a number of pricey new spending initiatives to be funded by an altogether insufficient tax increase, so we will good from very bad to much worse.

So to say it again, anyone who turns a blind eye to a record and still growing national debt just doesn't give a daxn about the country they will leave to their kids and grandkids. It's pathetic.

pathetic.

yes that's the word and that makes all politicians who support it pathetic

THAT DEFICIT SPENDING DURING GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES IS A TERRIBLE IDEA!! Repub pres and dem House, and neither did anything to stop it. You, of course, only mentioned Trump, but now you have a pres who has stated he is going to start a number of pricey new spending initiatives to be funded by an altogether insufficient tax increase, so we will good from very bad to much worse.

So to say it again, anyone who turns a blind eye to a record and still growing national debt just doesn't give a daxn about the country they will leave to their kids and grandkids. It's pathetic.

Please elaborate given this is hardly good economic times for everybody and a pandemic rages on. Aren't you ignoring the plight of the sick and dying and poor? One way to pay for stuff is growing the economy through stimulus spending such as we did during the bank and auto bailouts and shovel ready projects which yield not just a profit but created jobs and infrastructure improvements.

Maybe you can argue the Biden tax increase proposals insufficient, but I would argue the Repub tax cuts as excessive.

Please elaborate given this is hardly good economic times for everybody and a pandemic rages on. Aren't you ignoring the plight of the sick and dying and poor? One way to pay for stuff is growing the economy through stimulus spending such as we did during the bank and auto bailouts and shovel ready projects which yield not just a profit but created jobs and infrastructure improvements.Blah, blah, blah. Always an excuse to engage in deficit spending. We have never had debt this high, not even in WW2, so I'll just say it again. Any adult who makes excuses for this foolishness just doesn't care one whit about his/her children or grandchildren.

As to the unemployed, there are about 13 million of them. We could write each one a check for 15 thousand dollars each, and only spend about 200 billion dollars. The idiot dems in Congress want to spend 15 times more than that. It's all lunacy.


Maybe you can argue the Biden tax increase proposals insufficient, but I would argue the Repub tax cuts as excessive.Neither one made much difference. Trump's tax cuts amounted to about 25% of his deficits, and Bidens' tax increases, though it is still early to say, will cover perhaps 10 to 20% of his deficit. Revenues are not the problem, it's absolute runaway spending that has no constraints at all.

It's sad to see a perfectly intelligent person like you so committed to liberal dem orthodoxy that you can't even recognize what's right in front of your face.

Blah, blah, blah. Always an excuse to engage in deficit spending. We have never had debt this high, not even in WW2
The U.S. national debt has ballooned under the administration of President Donald Trump, increasing by nearly $7 trillion in less than four years.

The U.S. national debt has ballooned under the administration of President Donald Trump, increasing by nearly $7 trillion in less than four years.The debt under Trump was at 2.3 trillion after 2019, so I don't think your figure is correct. And of course you mention Trump but not Obama, but I don't care. Deficit spending is a terrible idea that has gotten completely out of hand. The dem Congress is as responsible for all of this as Trump is, so they are all guilty to me. I don't care if it's repub or dem, it's a terrible practice. I do know that combining Harris/Biden with a dem House is a recipe for disaster.

http://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-national-debt-by-year/#:~:text=The%20number%20used%20per%20year%20is%20t he%20accumulated,FY2019%20debt%20of%20%2422%2C027% 2C424%2C114%2C818.60.%20%C2%A0%20%28Last%20Updated %3A%206%2F03%2F2019%29

The debt under Trump was at 2.3 trillion after 2019, so I don't think your figure is correct.
I consulted several unrelated sources. Trump outdid himself during the past year.

I consulted several unrelated sources. Trump outdid himself during the past year.Fine. Link them.

Fine. Link them.
So you can spit on them? Google is your friend.

So you can spit on them? Googling is your friend.Just as I suspected.

Just as I suspected.
I've done it in the past. Am still wiping off the saliva.

Say hello to my friend Google.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/?sh=6ea97c5a4819

Say hello to my friend Google.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/?sh=6ea97c5a4819

Perfect link - and from Forbes! Trump is the all-time master of deficit spending and debt. His denial is just another form of his gaslighting which, apparently, is working here on AMHD.

Say hello to my friend Google.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...h=6ea97c5a4819 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/?sh=6ea97c5a4819)Rather strangely missing (not really) from your article is any evidence supporting your false allegation that Trump ran up 7 tril in debt in only four years. Your own article clearly puts the figure at about half of what you suggested.

Put the saliva back on. You'll need to do a lot better than that.


The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/#79be18b64fed).
As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.
That was laughable. The economy contracted enormously in the second quarter. Trump proposed economic stimulus that was about half of what Pelosi wanted to do, so to blame this on Trump is sheer partisanship. But I would completely agree that Trump and the House should not have run deficits in his first three years. He followed Obama's lead in doing so, and that was an enormous mistake.

Rather strangely missing (not really) from your article is any evidence supporting your false allegation that Trump ran up 7 tril in debt in only four years. Your own article clearly puts the figure at about half of what you suggested.

Put the saliva back on. You'll need to do a lot better than that.
I didn't post that link. Someone else did.

I didn't post that link. Someone else did.Very true. I just assumed it was you. My apologies. Still, your claim falls flat by that article. Not a big deal, so we move on.

The dufus debt would have surely risen, maybe doubled given 4 more years.

So if Biden's deficits are doubled, will you be critical of that, or is your standard simply based on partisanship, so it's only bad when Trump does it?

As you have said many times deficit spending during good times is stupid and until covid that's what the dufus did after he claimed the greatest economy ever after being handed a healthy economy.

Given the economy and covid situation Biden has been handed, don't see much choice but to add to the debt, but we'll see won't we.

As you have said many times deficit spending during good times is stupid and until covid that's what the dufus did after he claimed the greatest economy ever after being handed a healthy economy.He did just what Obama did in his final five or six years, so was Obama a "dufus" as well? (Please let me answer that one!!! Please, please!!)

Biden has been given an economy that is rapidly recovering and will continue to do so unless he completely botches it. A vaccine will be ready by the end of the year, exactly as Trump has said, so Biden is stepping into a pretty good situation. It will all work out if he doesn't overreact and blow the whole thing.

Like the dufus did as rising infections hospitalizations deaths and lingering effects of the recovered sweep the nation? Refrigerator trucks behind hospitals is not a good sign.

Biden has been given an economy that is rapidly recovering and will continue to do so unless he completely botches it.
The economy is rapidly recovering because Biden has been elected president.

No it would have recovered anyway, CV19 is a temporary setback

WG, look at the third quarter stats. You are wrong.

WG, look at the third quarter stats. You are wrong.
Who cares about the third quarter!

***U.S. stock index futures pointed to a sharply higher open on Monday after President-elect Joe Biden was declared the winner in a highly contentious election.

Although the President has not conceded and there was concern regarding legal challenges, prominent Republicans, including former President (George W.) Bush in essence publicly called the election and the market has embraced the election results too," said Quincy Krosby, chief market strategist at Prudential Financial in Newark, New Jersey.

"The market is up and it looks as if we're going to continue."***

-Business Insider, 11/09/2020

Who cares about the third quarter!34% annual growth in GDP during the third quarter, which is fantastically good. If Biden ever does that, make sure to let us know.

The only boost to the market is the knowledge that the democrats will stupidly spend three tril on a stimulus program that we don't need. Short term gain is the deal there.

Short term gain is the deal there.

so what is new, the market doesn't look to the long term

Market people will take a buck however they can for as long as they can...like everybody else.

like everybody else.Exactly.

Yes How many bucks did the Biden clan take