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Wondergirl
Aug 23, 2020, 04:38 PM
Speakers? Performers of song or dance? Animal acts? Monster truck rallies? Pole-dancing contests? I can't wait for the action to begin on Monday evening!

paraclete
Aug 23, 2020, 06:18 PM
you mean they have finally found the tent, TRUMP the biggest circus in town, EVER!

tomder55
Aug 24, 2020, 05:44 AM
His agenda is the convention .
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-announces-president-trumps-2nd-term-agenda-fighting-for-you

Other things . The Dems made their convention a Trump hate fest ....both him and hatred for those who support him . Trump has to turn that and make the convention about Quid and his half century of no accomplishments . Oh yeah except the Federal sentencing that the Dems all love so much. Quid's corruption should be mentioned . They could mention that in 50 years Quid NEVER led on anything . The Dem party evolved and he went along for the ride. He went from essentially a Dixiecrat to a radical lefty never once leading his party in that direction. We know if elected he will never lead. He has adopted the Elizabeth Warren /Bolshevik Bernie / All Out Crazy agenda . One such example is this little ditty in his plagiarized acceptance speech He said he wants to "put an end to the era of shareholder capitalism — the idea [that] the only responsibility a corporation has is to its shareholders."
It is false to say that today corporations are only accountable to share holders. But let's say that was true . Just by doing that corporations do a tremendous amount of public good. All you need to do is look at the effort by companies to be the 1st on the market with a covid vaccine. They are doing that because it would be financially advantageous to be the first . But in doing all the r&d ,they will have a safe vaccine on the market much faster than if we lived in a command economy . As has been shown many times recently ,consumers vote their confidence in a company with their dollars . That is why so many corporations have made conscious efforts to support social causes . Finally ,shareholder capitalism is a myth itself. Shareholders do not own corporations . Shareholders are free to go along with the ride or sell. But corporations are autonomous legal entities . The directors or the corporate owners makes the call. Quid is buying into the concept of 'stakeholder capitalism ' (he is following the politics of Bolshevik Bernie and 1/1024 Elizabeth Warren to name a couple of proponents. )It means that corporations are also responsible to the larger community .Most corporations have already brought into the notion that they are accountable to more than just the shareholders .What the Dems are really saying is that they would mandate behavior through top down regulatory control over corporate decisions . They would enforce it by setting mandates on how and who sits on corporate boards . To see where this is heading see the Warren's 'Accountable Capitalism Act' . "S. 3348 is a proposed federal bill introduced by Senator Elizabeth Warren in August 2018. It would require that employees elect 40% of a board of directors of any corporation with over $1 billion in tax receipts, and that 75% of shareholders and directors must approve any political spending. Corporations with revenue over $1 billion would be required to obtain a federal corporate charter. The Act contains a "constituency statute" that would give directors a duty of "creating a general public benefit" with regard to a corporation's stakeholders, including shareholders, employees, and the environment, and the interests of the enterprise in the long-term. "The government by necessity would be the final arbiter of the conflicting interests that the corporation needs to satisfy .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountable_Capitalism_Act#:~:text=3348%20is%20a%2 0proposed%20federal,must%20approve%20any%20politic al%20spending (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountable_Capitalism_Act?fbclid=IwAR3rroaQ8EHy3b tqi24aX7MLPYTLtrou7mTfJY8zJI_cIi6T8CjUYzAI-hk#:~:text=3348%20is%20a%20proposed%20federal,must %20approve%20any%20political%20spending).


Trump would do well to not do what the Dems did in their convention . Ie il Duce has a disastrous record regarding C-19 . Yet he claimed credit for success .Not only that he disparaged the successes of other states or nations in combating the virus, especially on the basis of deaths per million residents.

Bubba should never mention the 'Oval Office ' because it brings up images of stained dresses ,and in the Me-too era that aint cool. So what did he do ? He lectures Trump on the proper use of the Oval Office .

The emperor should never speak of respect for the Constitution . He abused the it from his 1st day in office . We now know he was the mastermind in the attempted coup against Trump. One of his underlings pled guilty almost the same time that the emperor made his speech .You know ,the underling who proclaimed 'viva le resistance '! But his abuse of FISA court for the purpose of domestic spying began long before Flynn and Trump were targets .

The blond haired blue eyed native American should never in fact bring up native American issues . So it turns out that she served on the Democratic Convention Native American Caucus Committee . Clearly her pedigree serves as legitimacy .

All the RNC needs to do is point out what is well known .
The Dems have an agenda almost no one in America wants .
The Dems platform is the furthest socialist left that has ever been proposed by a major party . The Dems hate law enforcement . Not ONE of their speakers called out the wanton looting ,arson ,violence of the "peaceful protests" going on in Democrat controlled cities .
The Dems hate America and say it is historically and fundamentally flawed ;and should be dismantled as we know it . The Republicans will celebrate America and it's exceptional greatness.

paraclete
Aug 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
His agenda is the convention .


All the RNC needs to do is point out what is well known .
.

You don't mean they are going to regale us with trump's list of failures, his list of successes being short

Wondergirl
Aug 24, 2020, 08:46 AM
You don't mean they are going to regale us with trump's list of failures, his list of successes being short
Nope, all of his kids (from three different wives, oops, not Barron so TWO wives) are going to tell us what a great dad he is -- fun family vacations to Yo-semite Park, family outings to Thigh restaurants and ESPECIALLY to his favorite, McDonald's, plus all the enjoyment they got walking the adorable and much-loved family dogs.

tomder55
Aug 24, 2020, 10:49 AM
ok Clete for you I will start in foreign policy:
Trump mostly kept the United States out of an unwinnable war in Syria, fired John Bolton before he could start a war in Iran over the downing of a drone . I was a critic and thought he should take a stronger stand. But in retrospect he has flexed against Iran and has properly punished them with his sanctions and his recent UN action to call for the continuation of UN sanctions .

He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem;and has brokered a peace deal between the UAE and Israel .

The NORKS have not had a nuke test since early in his administration ,

Despite the silly nonsense that the left tries to perpetrate that he is a puppet of Putin; His sanctions on Russia are tougher than the emperor's . He gave the Poles defensive weapons against the Russian threat . He has gotten NATO to forward deploy to Eastern Europe and to get NATO troops the defend the Baltic States from possible Russian aggression.

He has strengthened ties with South America while still putting the squeeze on rogue nations like Venezuela .

He renegotiated NAFTA and what emerged is a vast improvement .

He is getting NATO to finally pony up their fair share of the funding .

We finally have a President who has the cahones to treat China as the enemy of the world and the US that they are .

Yeah I get it . He is unpopular . So what ? He doesn't have to be loved to be effective ,

Curlyben
Aug 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
'Nuff said really....
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Who's Tiffany anyways ??

tomder55
Aug 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ? They keep him locked away deeper in the dungeon than Quid Pro Joe himself . The Biden family isn't in the loop in any government function . They prefer to work behind the scene cashing in on Quid's name and influence . They as much a dynasty as Trump's or Kim's .

Curlyben
Aug 24, 2020, 02:05 PM
My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ? They keep him locked away deeper in the dungeon than Quid Pro Joe himself . The Biden family isn't in the loop in any government function . They prefer to work behind the scene cashing in on Quid's name and influence . They as much a dynasty as Trump's or Kim's .

I think that's actually true of most families involved in the political scene, generally, however they keep lower profiles rather than blatantly exploiting the family nepotism.

Wondergirl
Aug 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ?
Probably was playing poker with Barron.

paraclete
Aug 24, 2020, 03:32 PM
By all means start Tom but he loves the limelight too much and his policies on CV19 have seen the US be the most infected country far ahead of any third world country and he hasn't brought China to account on that. He promised to build a wall, he promised to repeal Obamacare in both cases he has tinkered around the edges

tomder55
Aug 24, 2020, 04:27 PM
The wall is well on it's way to being built besides all the road blocks the Dems have put up .It is going up at a rate of apx 10 miles a week . You tell me .What do you prefer ; border control or open borders . Trump is for border control . The Dems were mum on it during their convention. But we all know they want open uncontrolled borders .

How should he hold China responsible ? He calls them out on it constantly ;but are you advocating getting into an all out war with a nation of a billion people that are armed with nukes ? The real issue is that the Dems don't even recognized China as a threat ,let alone an enemy . Quid brought his son there on Air Force 2 to make a large fortune for himself . So who's interest do you think Quid will represent ?

Obamacare was legislative action legitimized by SCOTUS . Trump has done what he can to dismantle it but ultimately either SCOTUS will have to approved of the dismantle ;or a filibuster proof majority of Repubs who want it dismantled will have to be voted in .In 2017, the Republican Congress cut the tax penalty for those who lacked insurance to zero as part of the tax overhaul. Without the mandate ,Obamacare will die eventually . SCOTUS is scheduled to hear Trump's court challenge to Obamacare November 10 ....after the election.

Athos
Aug 24, 2020, 05:09 PM
The wall is well on it's way to being built

Trump has built three (3) miles of wall. The other mileage worked has been repair or replacement of dilapidated sections. His cronies raising money to build the wall have all been indicted for fraud and are headed to jail. You should know by now that Trump is a COMPLETE fraud.

The rest of your post is like Trump's wall - not much there.

Wondergirl
Aug 24, 2020, 05:13 PM
SCOTUS is scheduled to hear Trump's court challenge to Obamacare November 10 ....after the election.
The best birthday gift I will get on November 10 is Trump doing a well-earned perp walk.

tomder55
Aug 24, 2020, 05:42 PM
216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.

Wondergirl
Aug 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.
And taking over cemeteries and protected lands and even private property. Plus, tRump is getting money from private citizens to build the wall that he said Mexico was to pay for.

"Only one day after he was indicted (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/steve-bannon-we-build-the-wall-indicted-1046931/) on conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering charges, a video has surfaced showing former Trump campaign manager Steve Bannon (https://www.rollingstone.com/t/steve-bannon/) joking with one of his alleged co-conspirators about stealing “all that money from ‘We Build The Wall,’” a crowdfunding campaign that raised more than $25 million with the promise to erect a barrier on the southern border."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/video-surfacess-bannon-joking-about-stealing-money-from-build-a-wall-1048305/

Athos
Aug 24, 2020, 05:56 PM
216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017


Wrong - replaced/repaired wall is NOT new wall. Read my lips. It is replaced/repaired wall.

As WG noted, in any case, the wall was to be paid for by Mexico. Remember that? As she further noted, Bannon and his cronies were stealing millions from a wall fund, they got caught, and are headed to long prison terms.

Stop defending a weak position, tomder.

paraclete
Aug 24, 2020, 05:57 PM
216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.

I seem to recall part of this new wall fell down recently so I guess that section doesn't count. Tom, I'm not against your wall, effective border control is essential for any nation and covid seems to have solved the problem anyway, for the time being, at least. What is paradoxical is you have NAFTA, which is essentially an open border with Mexico, and yet you need a wall. Seems something might have been missing in that agreement, so by the end of his term Trump might have built 500 miles of wall, at this rate he would need four terms to complete it.

Athos
Aug 24, 2020, 06:01 PM
He renegotiated NAFTA and what emerged is a vast improvement .

Speaking of NAFTA, this is one of the funniest "accomplishments" you mentioned. All he did was change the name to USMCA with hardly anything else changed.

talaniman
Aug 24, 2020, 08:45 PM
I am grateful for my Netflix subscription, as I await the return of the Walking Dead, and the new Star Trek series on All Access. Saves me from the depression of the dufus reality, and conservative capitalist spin and sycophants...on primetime display this week. Obviously Tomder, not all Americans, or not even all repubs are on board for more dufus and family BS!

paraclete
Aug 24, 2020, 08:49 PM
yes recede into fantasy

talaniman
Aug 24, 2020, 08:59 PM
A nice vacation from BS! Having fun with my FANTASY sports too!

tomder55
Aug 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
replacing this counts as building new wall .
https://media.oregonlive.com/news_impact/photo/borderfencejpg-49e0b6a663a5917a.jpg
https://www.staradvertiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/web1_AP19283695832380.jpg

tomder55
Aug 25, 2020, 02:38 AM
Tal I listened to the DNC (mostly the next day because here in NY it starts and ends too darn late .) And I did make a valiant effort trying to win in fantasy baseball. Too bad half my roster had the weekend off . That reality in fantasy 2020 .

Mexico paying for the wall was rhetoric .The financial benefit of having the wall and a new USMCA agreement will pay for the wall. No one realistically expected Mexico to cut a check for the wall. Trump's supporters mostly realized it then and now .Only the Ann Coulter crowd took it serious enough to possibly change their vote ,although when it comes time to cast that ballot ,only the hard core NeverTrumpers are going to vote for Quid . Mexico is also indirectly paying for it with better enforcement of their southern border by their national guard
.

paraclete
Aug 25, 2020, 06:25 AM
Tal I listened to the DNC (mostly the next day because here in NY it starts and ends too darn late .) And I did make a valiant effort trying to win in fantasy baseball. Too bad half my roster had the weekend off . That reality in fantasy 2020 .

Mexico paying for the wall was rhetoric .The financial benefit of having the wall and a new USMCA agreement will pay for the wall. No one realistically expected Mexico to cut a check for the wall. Trump's supporters mostly realized it then and now .Only the Ann Coulter crowd took it serious enough to possibly change their vote ,although when it comes time to cast that ballot ,only the hard core NeverTrumpers are going to vote for Quid . Mexico is also indirectly paying for it with better enforcement of their southern border by their national guard
.
That isn't the same as paying for the wall which wouldn't be necessary if Mexico stepped up and enforced the border

replacing this counts as building new wall .
actually it might count as building a wall so what do the ones who built it in the first place think they were doing, herding sheep?

tomder55
Aug 25, 2020, 06:45 AM
nah they prefer to herd sheeple .

talaniman
Aug 25, 2020, 07:01 AM
Those hard core never trumpers are growing not shrinking, and actually stepping out and saying they rather have Joe than the dufus. Dems got a small bump from their convention and we'll see what the repubs get after theirs. Should be as interesting as making a line up during a virus.

tomder55
Aug 25, 2020, 07:20 AM
Those were the same NreverTrumpers who opposed him 4 years ago. Then they said they would not vote for Evita. But they are swamp critters so of course they will vote for a fellow senior swamp critter

talaniman
Aug 25, 2020, 07:30 AM
Who cares as long as they vote for Joe and not the dufus?

paraclete
Aug 25, 2020, 08:29 PM
Those hard core never trumpers are growing not shrinking, and actually stepping out and saying they rather have Joe than the dufus. Dems got a small bump from their convention and we'll see what the repubs get after theirs. Should be as interesting as making a line up during a virus.

Yes I notice Joe said he would be all things to all people and even hinted at a move to the right. On the practical side of an election in a pandemic, more polling stations are obviously needed as is perhaps longer access to voting

tomder55
Aug 26, 2020, 04:46 AM
hinted at a move to the right The Dems have played that trojan horse before .

paraclete
Aug 26, 2020, 06:51 AM
The Dems have played that trojan horse before .

Yes an old one but a good one, as Trump moves further to the right they assume the middle ground

tomder55
Aug 26, 2020, 07:27 AM
lol you are kidding ;Trump moving to the right ? The President who wants to spend a fortune on big ticket infrastructure and bail outs for everyone .

talaniman
Aug 26, 2020, 07:34 AM
Yes I notice Joe said he would be all things to all people and even hinted at a move to the right. On the practical side of an election in a pandemic, more polling stations are obviously needed as is perhaps longer access to voting

That calls for more volunteers and working machines and competent direction from the states who run those things. Requested a mail in ballot even though we take advantage of early voting which starts in October.


The Dems have played that trojan horse before .

Repubs before the dufus played the same game...it's called a pivot.


Yes an old one but a good one, as Trump moves further to the right they assume the middle ground

Exactly, where the undecideds and swing voters are.


lol you are kidding ;Trump moving to the right ? The President who wants to spend a fortune on big ticket infrastructure and bail outs for everyone .

He feeds his base plenty of red meat, you know right wing loony red meat! He has since he announced in 2015 so the right wing loonies are fat and happy and clamoring for more!

Wondergirl
Aug 26, 2020, 09:22 AM
The President who wants to spend a fortune on big ticket infrastructure and bail outs for everyone .
What's TRUMP been doing for the past three-plus years?

tomder55
Aug 26, 2020, 09:22 AM
the one thing he has done to make conservatives happy is appoint a bunch of judges that were recommended to him by 'The Federalists ' ...that and he has appointed Larry Kudlow and Steve Moore as economics advisors .

talaniman
Aug 26, 2020, 05:28 PM
That's obviously not enough for some repub conservatives.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/08/26/all-the-republicans-who-have-endorsed-joe-biden-for-president/?ocid=uxbndlbing#28feb2e3298d

They're going with Joe...Go Joe Go!

paraclete
Aug 26, 2020, 07:06 PM
Yes Biden more conservative than Trump who bears the fascist flag

tomder55
Aug 27, 2020, 04:00 AM
NeverTrumpers Kaisich never got over the fact that Trump made fun of the way he eats . Christine Whitless was the EPA boss who declared there was nothing toxic in the air in downtown NYC after the 9-11 attack .


Yes Biden more conservative than Trump who bears the fascist flag False It is the Dem supporting 'peaceful protesters ' who are acting like brown shirt fascists . Biden wants government control of industry . That is fascism by definition. Trump wants to unleash private enterprise from government shackles .

talaniman
Aug 27, 2020, 05:16 AM
You righties just don't get it do you? There are peaceful protestors, and there are angry criminals. They both need to be addressed in different ways and conflating them together does no good and perpetrating the LIE that the left supports violent criminals is just an excuse to perpetrate a fake law and order agenda and NOT address the social underpinning of police brutality.

The left condemn the violence, when will the right condemn the brutality?

tomder55
Aug 27, 2020, 06:19 AM
Did you see the BLM peaceful protesters confronting diners in DC demanding that they raise their fists in a show of solidarity ? Nah tal all I heard was crickets about the issue of protester violence at the DNC . There was plenty of condemnation against cops however .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSnTTND0UcM

Clete I have to amend my comments . Before he became the emperor's lackey ;Biden was pro cop and law and order . Biden was against gay marriage . On the social issues he was much more conservative than Trump ever was . He said homosexuals would be a security risk if appointed to high office . Trump on the other had appointed openly gay Richard Grenell as acting Director of National Intelligence .Actually he did not change his position on gay marriage until May 2012 .Both he and the emperor "evolved " when it became untenable to be a Dem opposing it .

paraclete
Aug 27, 2020, 06:52 AM
so another demonrat shifting in the wind?

talaniman
Aug 27, 2020, 07:01 AM
Actually I did see those left wing loons confront the diner. Disgusting as right wing loons and more so, that defend bad cops. The idea of a curfew to separate the good guys from the bad is a good one. Hope it works to clarify the two separate issues and find a resolution to both.

Shooting a brother in the back 7 times, or a knee to the neck until he dies, just ain't good police work, and hiding behind criminal actions to justify a lack of action in regard to those bad cops is immoral.

Everybody has an opinion about social issues but scaring suburban women about the dangers of poor people destroying their way of life is loony and racist when you put a brothers face on it who happens to be a senator, as well as defending the 17 year old loon (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kyle-rittenhouse-was-fixated-on-supporting-police-before-deadly-shooting-in-kenosha/ar-BB18qqRH?ocid=msedgntp) who shot and killed people because he was helping cops against looters and arsonists.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/08/27/tucker-carlson-defends-kenosha-teenage-vigilante-shootinger/5641248002/

We could consider if we had listened to Kaepernick when he took a knee, we might not be hearing from Lebron, and Doc Rivers and the other fed up young brothers, and have these endless protests and the ensuing violence.

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 09:12 AM
Before he became the emperor's lackey ;Biden was pro cop and law and order . Biden was against gay marriage . On the social issues he was much more conservative than Trump ever was . He said homosexuals would be a security risk if appointed to high office . Trump on the other had appointed openly gay Richard Grenell as acting Director of National Intelligence .Actually he did not change his position on gay marriage until May 2012 .Both he and the emperor "evolved " when it became untenable to be a Dem opposing it .
Biden finally matured and got smart. He musta read Genesis 3, the story about those two people and that "apple".

tomder55
Aug 27, 2020, 01:21 PM
I don't recall any bible passage about putting your finger in the wind to determine your convictions .

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 01:29 PM
I don't recall any bible passage about putting your finger in the wind to determine your convictions .
Adam and Eve did with their free will.

paraclete
Aug 27, 2020, 04:05 PM
Adam and Eve did with their free will.

So you are saying they were convinced of who the devil was and they want to be like God

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
So you are saying they were convinced of who the devil was and they want to be like God
Don't know if they had figured out who the devil was. They certainly were gullible. And Genesis 3 says:

5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

tomder55
Aug 27, 2020, 05:09 PM
are you saying that Biden ate from the apple and is now God like ? Bwaaaahaaahhaaaahaaa !!!!!!!!! Today he took a further step in his road to divinity . He finally admitted that the violent protests are wrong . Did not hear any of the Dem speakers address that during the DNC

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 05:34 PM
are you saying that Biden ate from the apple and is now God like ? Bwaaaahaaahhaaaahaaa !!!!!!!!! Today he took a further step in his road to divinity . He finally admitted that the violent protests are wrong . Did not hear any of the Dem speakers address that during the DNC
And the Republicans want to be MORE violent (which won't solve anything). The Dems spoke about peace and unity, working together to solve our nation's problem.

tomder55
Aug 27, 2020, 05:36 PM
no they don't.... that is a lie by the god like quid ....which makes him Satan like .

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 05:38 PM
For your listening and viewing pleasure. Feel free to sing along!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78BQugoKLQ4

Wondergirl
Aug 27, 2020, 05:43 PM
no they don't.... that is a lie by the god like quid ....which makes him Satan like .
The Republicans HAVE BEEN more violent! (Um, watch the news! Read the newspapers!) And they still are!

talaniman
Aug 27, 2020, 07:09 PM
For your listening and viewing pleasure. Feel free to sing along!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78BQugoKLQ4

Wow, that was great...The LIAR King!

paraclete
Aug 27, 2020, 08:32 PM
For your listening and viewing pleasure. Feel free to sing along!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78BQugoKLQ4

Good one WG perhaps the best political satire this century

tomder55
Aug 28, 2020, 12:31 AM
as well as defending the 17 year old loon (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kyle-rittenhouse-was-fixated-on-supporting-police-before-deadly-shooting-in-kenosha/ar-BB18qqRH?ocid=msedgntp) who shot and killed people because he was helping cops against looters and arsonists. So of the 3 people he shot
1. Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, was the first one killed. Video shows him chasing teen shooter & throwing something at him. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.

2.Anthony Huber, 26, was shot & killed He chased down the armed teen ,hitting him when he was on the ground with a skateboard. He has a criminal history that includes charges of battery & repeat domestic abuse.

3. shot (& survived),Gaige Grosskreutz, 26. He's a member of the People’s Revolution Movement. He was filmed chasing after the teen with a pistol. He was shot at close-range in the upper arm. He also has a criminal record . https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgausSUXYAEk3uR?format=jpg&name=360x360

tomder55
Aug 28, 2020, 03:26 AM
Don Lemon of CNN talking to Fredo let the cat out of the bag , "The rioting (aka 'peaceful protests ") has to stop … It’s showing up in the polling. It’s showing up in the focus groups.”
So that is why Burn baby Biden decided to speak up about it right before Trump's address even though he and the Dems were completely mum about the violence during their convention lest they offend the Antifa/BLM militia.
This is what else they considered in their calculation..... Kenosha is a small town city in a swing state . It is ok to not speak out against ,indeed to support the 'peaceful protests ' mayhem in primarily Dems controlled cities /states because as long as it stays local there is little political costs . But middle America sees and identifies cities like Kenosha as Middle America and the people wonder when the mayhem will show up at their doorsteps . It is all there on video. 'Peaceful protesters ' stole gas from a nearby station and proceeded to torch businesses ,a car lot ,even a Dollar Store was not spared . What wasn't torched was looted .
Wisconsin Repub Rep. Brian Steil was on site immediately. The folks of Kenosha asked him to step up. He did .“Just broadly speaking, people want to see public safety restored to the city of Kenosha,"...."I don't think they care if a Republican does it, a Democrat does it, if the man on the moon does it. They just want to see it done. They want to see leadership.”

He​ saw law enforcement was overwhelmed . He asked city officials if they were open to Federal assistance. They said they were . So he made the case to Democrat Guv Tony Evers .Evers rejected the idea .
Then Kyle Rittenhouse armed himself and foolishly decided to assist the police . He was chased down and assaulted . He fired his weapon killing 2 outstanding model citizens and wounding another . He faces a number or charges for his self defense .

Then and only then did Evers accept Federal assistance due to public pressure .

It also woke up the Dems who out of their convention decided to try to make Trump the owner of the lawlessness in the country . D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser and Oregon Guv. Kate Brown, called for the end of riots, violence, and harassment (aka 'peaceful protests") in their own cities. Quid tried to directly pin it all on Trump.
Here is the metrics. June ,the people of Wisconsin approved BLM protests 61% to 36%. Today it is closer to 50% and falling . And that does NOT include the recent Kenosha 'peaceful protests ' .
This shift to blame Trump will not work .Last night the 'peaceful protesters 'were in DC assaulting the audience of Trump's acceptance speech as they left the White House . Rand Paul was saved only because DC cops surrounded him.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/protesters-assault-trump-supporters-eggs-bottles-punches-after-rally-n585096

We have seen this type of 'peaceful protest' before .They wore brown shirts .

paraclete
Aug 28, 2020, 06:15 AM
We have seen this type of 'peaceful protest' before .They wore brown shirts

so who then is their furher?

talaniman
Aug 28, 2020, 06:56 AM
That's not even good spin against the backdrop of the dufus rerun of his greatest white grievance speech on the WH lawn, and the very real grievances in cities of America and a 17 year old loon with a gun. That conservatives love to find anecdotes to defend bad behavior just feeds into those white grievance fears so that's all you see.

The fact Tom you cannot separate the reasons for protests with the very real criminal behavior that occurs is a testament for the need to get rid of the dufus and end the chaos of his feeding you crap sandwiches that renders any solutions useless.

Or do you ignore police brutality because it makes you feel better for some warped reason? Or do you fail to address the actions of bad cops and a very bad liar and bully because he is talking your language? Or maybe you have no clue about how to address the circumstances we find ourselves in.

tomder55
Aug 30, 2020, 02:23 AM
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Jacob-Blake-Knife-In-Hand-728x381-1-1.jpg

talaniman
Aug 30, 2020, 06:05 AM
What's your point?

paraclete
Aug 31, 2020, 08:13 PM
What's your point?

the point is he was not an unarmed black man

talaniman
Aug 31, 2020, 08:20 PM
You can't tell that from Toms picture, and even if he was how is he a threat, and does that justify 7 shots in the back? Come on man?!

paraclete
Aug 31, 2020, 09:07 PM
As I have said elsewhere your local authorities have too much power and are paranoid, he didn't seem to be a threat and what he had in his hand might also have been car keys, but he should have known, you obey police instructions and you don't just walk away. This doesn't justify it and the rules of engagement need to be modified. Actually, you should take firearms away from local cops, that would curb the violence

talaniman
Sep 1, 2020, 06:09 PM
LOL, take the guns from cops and the bad guys would be in total control. When cops screw up they should be dealt with like everybody else.

paraclete
Sep 1, 2020, 08:11 PM
LOL, take the guns from cops and the bad guys would be in total control. When cops screw up they should be dealt with like everybody else.

yes that is the myth of the lore of the gun, let's face it you are never going to get armed police shooting down one of their own

talaniman
Sep 2, 2020, 04:08 AM
That's what the fuss is about, protecting cops that screw up and people die.

paraclete
Sep 2, 2020, 06:17 AM
You avoid the elephant in the room, unarmed people are killed by guns, or cops, or cops with guns, it is cowboy culture from the nineteenth century, the sheriff shots the bad guy

paraclete
Sep 2, 2020, 06:27 AM
https://scontent.fsyd3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/118305407_3177992768922118_1196491845647388685_o.j pg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SV9eoxbYGa0AX-Lzk7D&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd3-1.fna&tp=6&oh=9ff991ece389f44af60e21a9fbe1304a&oe=5F73690D

talaniman
Sep 2, 2020, 09:29 AM
You avoid the elephant in the room, unarmed people are killed by guns, or cops, or cops with guns, it is cowboy culture from the nineteenth century, the sheriff shots the bad guy

Seems we would have evolved beyond our past and be more responsible, but great as we are we haven't lived up to our potential nor addressed certain issues. A lot to overcome and it's not OVER.

Great cartoon by the way.