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Trump has a health issue everyone gets if they’re lucky, but it’s also invariably fatal: old age. JFK never had that problem, but it is true that both JFK and DJT tried to cover up their health issues. But the sources of their health issue didn’t overlap at all, so neither did the remedies.

In Trump’s case, he’s tried to avoid looking his age. He dyes his hair and goes to elaborate lengths to conceal his bald spot. He wears Soviet-era oversized suits and absurdly long ties to conceal his paunch. He wears oversized pads in the shoulders of those suits to conceal his pear-shaped body.

He wears lifts in his shoes to make him look more imposing, even though he’s at least 6 feet tall without “assistance.” He sprays on tan to look younger, though the white rings around his eyes make him look like an orange raccoon.

Overall the attempt is to make him look like a fit, virile ex-linebacker in his late 40s instead of an obese old man.
Sad.

Yet it works on at least 40% of the voters.

(anon)

No wonder he is up all night tweeting! He has to take off yesterdays make up, and apply a fresh coat everyday.

there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .

there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .

Your point?

What's your point ? That Trump has a vanity problem ? So what ? JFK was a walking wreck and he hid it and tried to portray himself as a man of vigor (“vigah,”). That was pure vanity on his part portraying a fiction .

Had the nation known his health problems it is likely he would not have become President .He had Addison’s disease for which he was regularly administered steroids .He suffered from ulcers and colitis. He had chronic back issues .Many of the treatments doctors gave Kennedy did far more harm than good. Kennedy was taking an extraordinary variety of medications: steroids ,painkillers for his back; anti-spasmodics for colitis; antibiotics for urinary-tract infections; antihistamines for allergies; and, on at least one occasion, an anti-psychotic. We were never told even though today ,many of those treatments would make us question his ability to competently do his job.

He was under the care of an allergist, an endocrinologist, a gastroenterologist, an orthopedist, and a urologist, along with that of Janet Travell ,his personal physician , Admiral George Burkley, and Max Jacobson,( called “Dr. Feelgood” by his patients ) was an emigre doctor from Germany who made a reputation by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.

We should be grateful the dufus doesn't hide any of his short comings and seems to take pride in displaying them for all to see. The dufus lies like a rug.

What's your point ? That Trump has ................................. by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

I still don't get your point.


Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.

From the dufus spray-painting his face to orange to the Kennedy assassination - wow, talk about a stretch!

Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.

Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.
While liberals dont think at all they just feel

While liberals dont think at all they just feel

Bad for conservatives!

Not at all we are not touchy feely we can see disadvantage and not skurm and want to solve it

What have you solved so far? Just curious.

What have you solved so far? Just curious.

We do things a bit at a time so everyone is entitled to support, health care. Not saying we solved it just we are working on it without the hooha

Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.

Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.

What it seems is you are much talk and little action but these are problems you cannot talk your way out of

The Civil War has been over for a long time but the war of ideas rages on.

we have been in the prelude to a civil war for some time . It starts long before the shooting starts . The church of woke has the upper hand at the moment because the rest of the people are afraid to speak out lest they offend .

If you are looking for a comparison to the American Civil war we are at this point currently
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This is a lithograph depicting U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks' attack on Sen. Charles Sumner in the U.S. Senate on May 22, 1856. We are not in civil war yet . The constitution hangs together by a tattered thread . But constitutional order still exists . A civil war happens when constitutional order no longer exists and the competing sides claim they have the legitimacy to form a new constitution. There becomes no more room for compromise . Whatever new order emerges .both sides must submit to willingly or unwillingly . Force determines the winner .As long as things can be resolved within the framework of the old constitution ie elections ,then it is not yet a civil war. The election of 1860 told the South that their way of life was going to be taken away. The North for their part would not accept the nationalization of slavery that would've been the defacto reality that came from the Dred Scott Decision (another great ruling by the putz's in SCOTUS) .

Since 1992 the two party system has been on a fast tract to destruction . Gone are the days of compromise . With each succeeding administration, the political climate has grown more rancorous and divided. There is no relationship between parties now .The only thing they agree on is that they are sworn enemies and the agenda of each is to beat the other's agenda.

That was the America in the1850s . Dredd Scott (thanks again to SCOTUS )nullified the Missouri Compromise . Kansas -Nebraska Act went into law which effectively guaranteed the territories introduction into the Union as free or slave states would be decided at the point of the sword. It should've been no surprise that Bloody Kansas would become national .

Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking

Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking What is so great about 20th and 21st century thinking ? Millions dead by totalitarians and millions more by progressive thinking that doesn t value human life .Now we have Maoist and Trotskyites marauding in the streets trying like Taliban and ISIS to destroy our history and their intellectual movement to destroy independent thought . You can have it .

What's so great about conservative thinking that follows the rich guys superiority in economic and social justice and assigns the values that keep them rich and superior? That centuries old thinking has always kept power and wealth in their own hands that they dole out as they please.

What is so great about 20th and 21st century thinking ? Millions dead by totalitarians and millions more by progressive thinking that doesn t value human life .Now we have Maoist and Trotskyites marauding in the streets trying like Taliban and ISIS to destroy our history and their intellectual movement to destroy independent thought . You can have it .

What makes you think it was different in the eighteenth century, they had great wars, numbers only limited by population, and millions subjected and enslaved. We have progressed in one thing, slavery is no longer in favour, but the disrespect for human life remains. the elite still rule and crush, it is time those values so highly prized changes to something more benign and encompassing. The Taliban and ISIS are a fundamentalist backlash against the tyranny of the elites so typified by that eighteenth century though you value so highly

The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .

The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .

Enlightenment? Or the Devil in disguise?



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The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .

You don't need them to destroy it, you are doing it yourselves

The great American experiment has hit a great stone wall for the moment. It happens in most societies.

The great American experiment has hit a great stone wall for the moment. It happens in most societies.


Yes it seems empires and civilisations have a finite life

Some for thousands of years.

Not really

Sure really. The thing is will your country, or mine last that long? Everybody around us has.

Sure really. The thing is will your country, or mine last that long? Everybody around us has.

My country has been inhabited for 60,000 years so it can be done without civilisation and empire

And you guys came along and screwed it up for the natives while making it for your own purpose. America may be as old as 90,000 years or more, just to one up you.

And you guys came along and screwed it up for the natives while making it for your own purpose. America may be as old as 90,000 years or more, just to one up you.

Nah your indigenous came across the land bridge after the last ice age. let's face it none of us know how long humans have inhabited this world but we do know large tracts were uninhabitable for eons. Primitive societies existed. Don't talk about us screwing it up for the natives without including yourself in that. Your intrusion into that continent was just as much a disaster as ours was here

I can agree with that. I just thought you were being a bit snotty is all.

I can agree with that. I just thought you were being a bit snotty is all.

we didn't conduct wars with the indigenous inhabitants, no need for that, many died of disease and there weren't that many anyway. their culture was based on sharing so they had no concept of land ownership, that is a concept they acquired from us. conflict centred around taking of domestic livestock

we didn't conduct wars with the indigenous inhabitants, no need for that, many died of disease and there weren't that many anyway.

They were no threat, but helpless as any indigenous people to diseases brought by invaders. They couldn't stop you from coming anymore than our indigenous could stop the Euros.


their culture was based on sharing so they had no concept of land ownership, that is a concept they acquired from us. conflict centred around taking of domestic livestock

Dress it up but same thing as I said before, you came over and took over like we did. Less bloody but same results. We did have more Natives to contend with and they did try to fight the Euros off.

They were no threat, but helpless as any indigenous people to diseases brought by invaders. They couldn't stop you from coming anymore than our indigenous could stop the Euros.


Dress it up but same thing as I said before, you came over and took over like we did. Less bloody but same results. We did have more Natives to contend with and they did try to fight the Euros off.

Yes ours did fight too, in pockets, but they were few, just family groups really and they didn't realise the threat, didn't understand the British would just keep coming, just as they did in the americas. Your legacy and ours has the same rootes, but the two nations have a very different ethos

Of course we have a different ethos because you are much more white Euro dominated and we are becoming less. DUH!

Of course we have a different ethos because you are much more white Euro dominated and we are becoming less. DUH!

We are the most diverse population on Earth, as the song line says "from all the lands on earth we come" and that is represented among our politicians but we haven't gone down the road of rabid capitalism as you have

The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash

The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash
What about the British and Irish convicts who were taken to Australia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia

We are the most diverse population on Earth, as the song line says "from all the lands on earth we come" and that is represented among our politicians but we haven't gone down the road of rabid capitalism as you have

The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash

I see you have your own homebrewed snake oil of which you have generously partaken of Clete. That's cool.

What about the British and Irish convicts who were taken to Australia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia

Well they had nowhere else to send them after the americas closed but they did the same there. Convicts were punished if they didn't do what was required but many became useful citizens because unlike your African slaves, they would be released after a time.


I see you have your own homebrewed snake oil of which you have generously partaken of Clete. That's cool.

No not snake oil euclypis oil Tal and unlike snake oil it cures all manner of of disease as does goanna oil

How convenient, that England could empty it's jails in America, and later Australia. No doubt for the good of the crown and mutually beneficial for both countries as we had similar experience with those convicts blending into the population as citizens and contributors to the labor force. England abolished slavery in the 1800's, but continued to colonize the New World which included Canada, the West Indies and South America. For sure unless they had a tattoo on their forehead, few knew they were convicts and certainly not their descendants, and lets be real, a guy with dark skin and no papers could hardly go unnoticed. So adding eucalyptus to snake oil may make it go down better but it's still snake oil.

No English convicts then Aussies could well have been speaking French or some other language than English, same here obviously.

No English convicts then Aussies could well have been speaking French or some other language than English, same here obviously.

Not really the french sailed by but didn't stay, a flag was enough to deter them, maybe they had other thoughts in mind, so did the dutch only the british could see the potential of this place

As a perfect place to dump people in English jails.

That may be but some people like my ancestors came as free settlers in the early nineteenth century, we weren't all convicts, you know?

How would I know that? You have done well though, so far!

Yes with a few million people we have done extraordinarily well

Hope the success continues with a few hundred million people.

Hope the success continues with a few hundred million people.
it will never get to that, this continent lacks the water resource yours has to sustain such a population, our population would decline even now if not for migration

We'll see. You might solve that problem eventually.

Yes bring our Antarctic territories closer that is the only way we will get more water, climate change predicts more droughts, you have hurricanes to dump water on you, our cyclones arn't always so obliging

We pump oil/crude for miles across our nation and you guys can't pump water? What am I missing?

We pump oil/crude for miles across our nation and you guys can't pump water? What am I missing?

The availability of water, no great lakes here, even the mighty Darling is a dry channel most of the time. we have considered damming the coastal rivers in the north and pumping the water over the mountains, a visionary idea from the early twentieth century but if money were no object and the greenies and indigenous were to suddenly die out... but on probabalities , no