Your president has threatened to send Federal Government troops to the states to put down protests. I thought you guys were against this and supported the 2nd Amendment for this very reason.

Do you plan to organize against Trump? You know, with your AK-47s that you bring to rallies supporting Trump?

Rabble rousing athos?

his use of the Insurrection Act is legit . Now if Antifa nihilists militias
were to invade my neighborhood and the local authorities were unwilling or unable to protect our lives and property ..... well let's just say that they will understand in a hurry why we embrace the 2nd Amendment .

Now if Antifa nihilists militias

Now revealed to be white supremacists POSING as antifa!


were to invade my neighborhood and the local authorities were unwilling or unable to protect our lives and property ..... well let's just say that they will understand in a hurry why we embrace the 2nd Amendment .

You'll get no argument from me if you wish to shoot white supremacists.

Now revealed to be white supremacists POSING as antifa! lol revealed by whom ? some clown pol in Milwaukee ?;the same authorities who abandoned their own police HQ ?

Wrong state/city/!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fringe-groups-point-finger-back-at-trump-democrats/ar-BB14UpGx?ocid=msedgntp

interesting that all those Hollywierdos are donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to right wing extremists . Who'd thunk it ?

https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/hollywood-s-seth-rogen-steve-carell-help-minneapolis-rioters-post-bail-N7itM6-PcUO-8JpBMO6P7g

Not surprising from a cop website.

here we go again calling out the site and ignoring the content . Do you dispute the FACT that Hollywierdo's are paying tribute in the form of defense funds for the rioters to buy their security while thugs sack down town LA a few minutes from their home ?

Really stop wasting my time . I assure you I don't use single sources .

https://deadline.com/2020/05/colin-kaepernick-legal-defense-fund-other-celebs-fund-bail-1202947629/

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-05-30/chrissy-teigen-protest-bail-funds-george-floyd-black-lives-matter

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-figures-begin-donating-bail-minneapolis-protesters-1296264

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/stars-donate-to-support-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

I know you don't Tom, but I doubt every arrest was for rioting, as curfew violations and failing to obey a lawful command among other things were charged, but I will admit I know a bit about this cop group, and how they got started, and the stuff they've been pushing over the last few years. Not saying I oppose them fully, but not my faves either. Just being honest.

I just think your narrative about supporting extremist was rather misleading.

here we go again calling out the site and ignoring the content

Like you just did?

I called out the Milwaukie pol who I first heard suggest that it was White Supremist Not twitter . Twitter is not a single source .

As for White Supremist maybe these 2 Ivy Leaguers are card carrying members of the Klan

https://abovethelaw.com/2020/06/furloughed-biglaw-associate-charged-in-new-york-molotov-cocktail-attack/?fbclid=IwAR17OcsnhO-kRjdeOM-MeKxhWPkoWtD2083ZtSUCTMaKVjrWaN5RwPxXUbQ&rf=1

It was Gov. Tim Walz who I first heard floating the absurd notion that it was White Supremacists that were doing the rioting .Then Twitter went atwitter and ran with it .

It's completely absurd to suppose that the 84 registered white supremacists, the ones who show up by the...pairs??...whenever there is a white supremacist rally are now scattered across the country and helping people, most of whom seem to be black, riot. Yeah. That's really believable.

It doesn't matter to me who loots and sets fires, it criminal behavior, and it's not so absurd for one white dude to pay a few black dudes to start crap! You don't know facts until you get the criminals. The issue is police brutality which should NEVER happen.

I thought this was an interesting perspective to understand the criminal behavior.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-people-loot/ar-BB14WjLA?ocid=anaheim-ntp-feeds


Most of the experts I spoke with agreed that looting is a side effect of protests, which are a side effect of the conditions causing the protests. In this case, the root cause is yet another killing of a black man by a white police officer. To fully eliminate looting, you’d have to eliminate the conditions that make people upset enough to protest.

As Christian Davenport, a political-science professor at the University of Michigan, put it to me, “the best way to prevent looting is to provide individuals with a living wage, provide for their basic needs, treat them with human dignity, and facilitate a life that is about thriving.”

excuse the criminals .... figures .

I excuse no one, but I think it's important to understand the criminality to make effective changes to mitigate and eliminate it with effective strategies, especially for/from my fellow minority brethren Tom. That doesn't mean individuals should not be held accountable for their actions, but we do need to acknowledge the mindset and deal with the lack of opportunities and the traumatic effects for sure, of institutional racism, suppression, oppression, exploitation and just plain cruelty!

For starters throwing thousands of poor people in high rises (projects) is a recipe for the development and growth of gangs. A trap few escape in their lifetimes. You couldn't think up a better model for criminality if you tried.

and it's not so absurd for one white dude to pay a few black dudes to start crap! You don't know facts until you get the criminals. I would certainly agree that you don't know the facts. It's possible that Martians came down and started this trouble. An Australian antifa group might have slipped in and started it all. OR, the obvious answer is the likely one. When people figure out that they can break into stores, steal, loot, and destroy property with impunity, then they are likely to do it.

I would certainly agree that you don't know the facts. It's possible that Martians came down and started this trouble. An Australian antifa group might have slipped in and started it all. OR, the obvious answer is the likely one. When people figure out that they can break into stores, steal, loot, and destroy property with impunity, then they are likely to do it.

I will skip the absurdity of your comments and just offer the freaks come out at night to do all kinds of stuff. I doubt seriously if the peacefully protesting folks suddenly change their behavior.

Criminals though are opportunists, and there is just no either or, but many levels in between good guys and bad.

the freaks come out at night to do all kinds of stuff. I doubt seriously if the peacefully protesting folks suddenly change their behavior.I would tend to agree with that. Perhaps don't believe it quite as much as you do but that's a fair statement.

I try to be a fair man. People can surprise you though.

It was Gov. Tim Walz who I first heard floating the absurd notion that it was White Supremacists that were doing the rioting .Then Twitter went atwitter and ran with it .

Tom, here's the proof that a white supremacist group created the false antifa message.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/national/twitter-removes-white-supremacist-account-posing-as-antifa/video_9a584736-a96a-577b-b0f0-84fa9366b4e3.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/02/twitter-shuts-down-white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa-after-donald-trump-jr-shares-its-tweet/

https://www.technewsworld.com/story/86692.html?rss=1

It's okay for 2nd amendment folks to exercise their right to bear arms at state capitals, but we need the army to squelch citizens exercising their first amendment rights?

Maybe the message is some people have more rights than others.

There is a first amendment right to burn, loot, and riot? Wow. I didn't know that.

There is a first amendment right to burn, loot, and riot? Wow. I didn't know that.

Don't be silly! Nobody is condoning that, so you focus on the bad acts and not the protest or what they are protesting about? You blaming the peaceful protesters for criminal acts? Sure sounds like it.

This is your comment I was referring to. "...but we need the army to squelch citizens exercising their first amendment rights?" No one has suggested using the military to scatter peaceful protesters. It is the rioters who would be the target.

https://scontent.fmem1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/101944197_10215781958172356_5687940849267113984_o. jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=teD4iacMAkUAX9S3AFn&_nc_ht=scontent.fmem1-2.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=ac32941447a063a9696519fd67d606a4&oe=5EFD7975

I don't trust the dufus when he employs riot tactics on peaceful protestors for a photo ops and his uniformed troops with NO insignias reminds me of VLAD invading Ukraine with soldiers with NO insignias. That military helicopter hovering low over DC peaceful protesters doesn't help me trust him either.

tal ,if the demonstrators can't control the 10% or whatever they are who riot loot and attack innocent demonstrators ,store owners ,truckers who happen to be in the area ,and law enforcement trying to maintain order ......and if the local police cannot or are not permitted to maintain control (4 NYC police were seriously injured in attacks last night) ....... AND if blue state Governors will not mobilize the State National Guard . Then who exactly is supposed to control the violence ? All these rights of protest and speech assembly do not matter much if you are not in a civil society . It is absolutely the responsibility of our leadership to maintain civil order .

It would become immediately serious if Tal's home or business was being looted and burned. What has been done to these communities has been a national disgrace that we sit by idly and allow it to happen.

Wonderful statement. "All these rights of protest and speech assembly do not matter much if you are not in a civil society . It is absolutely the responsibility of our leadership to maintain civil order." I think the pertinent phrase is, "to ensure domestic tranquility."

I realize it's especially tough when criminals pose as citizens, and hide among them. Hard to separate the good guys from the bad guys for sure, which makes the example of the dufus Monday even more despicable.

How about the do-nothing democrat mayors and governors who have stood by and basically done nothing? What does it make them?

And when you consider the truth of your statement ( it's especially tough when criminals pose as citizens, and hide among them. Hard to separate the good guys from the bad guys for sure), then what other choice did the pres have but to clear out the park? When he went to the bunker he got criticized, and when he (unlike the dems mentioned above) actually went out and showed how to restore order, he gets criticized. Honestly, his biggest problem amongst libs is the fact that he is not named Obama.

Honestly, his biggest problem amongst libs is the fact that he is not named Obama.

Honestly, your problem is you cannot watch an event that's been played on tv all over the world and commented on everywhere and yet you still are totally unable to understand what is going on.

I am truly sorry for you. Honestly.

Thank goodness!! When you feel sorry for me, then I know I'm going in the right direction. It's a badge of honor.

Thank goodness!! When you feel sorry for me, then I know I'm going in the right direction. It's a badge of honor.

Make of it what you can. Your neediness demands it.

I wear it with great honor.

I wear it with great honor.

Well, good you have at least ONE badge of honor.

Even if it was my only one, it would be the best. Incredibly good!!

Even if it was my only one, it would be the best. Incredibly good!!

It IS your only one!

How would you know? And once again, you claim to know something you have no earthly way of knowing. What is it with you?

How would you know?

I can tell from how you reveal yourself on these pages. It's pretty obvious.

And you seem to even have mystic powers. Wow. You can tell about a person from how they "reveal" themselves in print.

And you seem to even have mystic powers. Wow. You can tell about a person from how they "reveal" themselves in print.

Yes. It's not that uncommon. It's done all the time.

Not by you it's not. You are flatly wrong.

Are you going to man up and take a job in an inner city school? You never got around to replying to that one. If you did that for even five minutes, then you would at least have five minutes to compare to my seventeen years.

Not by you it's not. You are flatly wrong.

I am flatly or not flatly CORRECT!


Are you going to man up and take a job in an inner city school? You never got around to replying to that one. If you did that for even five minutes, then you would at least have five minutes to compare to my seventeen years.

You've already lost on that issue. I hope you're not going back to all your losses.

I am flatly or not flatly CORRECT!Calm down. You're making me laugh.

Lost on that issue that you have studied from the couch in your living room? Yeah. Sure. Go back to your little place of comfort. Leave the tough jobs to those of us who have actually done it. You know, we used to laugh at guys like you. Experts in your own minds who never had the courage to come in where we worked and try it out, but who wanted to act like scholars from the comfort of their living rooms.

Be a man, Athos. Go try it out, even for a month.

Lost on that issue that you have studied from the couch in your living room? Yeah. Sure. Go back to your little place of comfort. Leave the tough jobs to those of us who have actually done it. You know, we used to laugh at guys like you. Experts in your own minds who never had the courage to come in where we worked and try it out, but who wanted to act like scholars from the comfort of their living rooms.

Wow, I'm getting to you even more than I thought. When you act out like that, I know your frustration is getting the better of you.

, I'm getting to you even more than I thought.You copied me again!! Have you no shame?

I know you won't do it. Don't feel too badly about it. Recruiting teachers for inner city schools is a tough proposition. All the do-good liberals are too busy doing whatever it is they do to actually get up and lend a hand. They tend to leave that to others.

If you want to do some reading to help you understand inner city schools, I would recommend:

The Learning Gap by Stevenson and Stigler. It compares specific American schools to selected schools from high performing nations. It is excellent.

Meaningful Differences by Hart and Risley. A great book which looks at the cultural aspects of student achievement. They are not just meaningful; they are stunning.

No Excuses by Thernstrom and Thernstrom. A great book which examines NAEP data in depth. Great, great book.

They do all types of crowd control when POTUS is on the move . He comes into NYC all the time and roads are blocked and air traffic diverted . The crowd was told to disperse and didn't ........... boolah boolah they were evicted . Next time maybe they will follow the instructions of officers of the law . Here in NYC last night the cops got fed up with being shot at ,run over ,hit in the head with hammers ,getting bricks thrown at them ,and stabbed .So when the time came ,they went in with batons swinging . Maybe a stitched up looter will think twice .

We can only hope that is so.

They do all types of crowd control when POTUS is on the move . He comes into NYC all the time and roads are blocked and air traffic diverted . The crowd was told to disperse and didn't ........... boolah boolah they were evicted . Next time maybe they will follow the instructions of officers of the law . Here in NYC last night the cops got fed up with being shot at ,run over ,hit in the head with hammers ,getting bricks thrown at them ,and stabbed .So when the time came ,they went in with batons swinging . Maybe a stitched up looter will think twice .

There was no warning of the dufus photo op, his own people didn't know and while a stitched up looter is no big deal, that's not the only beatings NYC cops were handing out was it?