View Full Version : Kim's train
paraclete
Feb 24, 2019, 09:46 PM
Now here is a guy who understands great train journeys and not so fast trains
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/02/24/01/44/kim-begins-long-train-ride-to-trump-summit
Fact is train journeys are the forgotten form of luxury travel in the western world but not in Asia.
How trusting is Kim that no one will attempt to assassinate him during his classic train journey. A murder on the orient express situation, literally.
tomder55
Feb 25, 2019, 04:03 AM
yeah he owns the train and the country it will traverse . I'm sure his train is packed with all the amenities. But I do get your point about train travel . They just shut down the dining car in the Amtrac train here . However ,travel long distance by train was top technology in the late 19th century . I don't see the appeal today .
paraclete
Feb 25, 2019, 05:03 AM
yeah he owns the train and the country it will traverse . I'm sure his train is packed with all the amenities. But I do get your point about train travel . They just shut down the dining car in the Amtrac train here . However ,travel long distance by train was top technology in the late 19th century . I don't see the appeal today .
Well it must have some appeal to dictators, did you know the Chinese even built a very fast train to NK. I did a lot of train travel when I was young and carless, even caught a 60's version of a VFT, it could do 100 mph, boggles the mind, don't it, don't have any trains that travel that fast today
paraclete
Feb 25, 2019, 06:28 PM
How can you say he owns the country traversed, for thousands of miles he will be in a foreign place. It may be friendly, it may not. I have ridden on rail for part of that system and, generally, I found it fairly boring, so Kim will be bored out of his brain by the time he gets there, but if you don't own a personal jet, what else do you have. Trump may have an advantage of meeting Kim when he is bored and dulled by the journey.
talaniman
Feb 25, 2019, 06:45 PM
The dufus could have offered to pick him up and ride together to 'Nam. Now that's a photo op!
tomder55
Feb 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
How can you say he owns the country traversed, for thousands of miles he will be in a foreign place.
Because he is only traveling to the border of Vietnam by train and in China he will be under the protection of the Chinese . They won't let anything happen to him . How do you know he is even on the train? This report could be a diversion.
paraclete
Feb 25, 2019, 08:09 PM
Because he is only traveling to the border of Vietnam by train and in China he will be under the protection of the Chinese . They won't let anything happen to him . How do you know he is even on the train? This report could be a diversion.
Well this is true, who knows what an NK thinks, let alone does, paranoid in depth. But yes, Tal, Trump could have offered him a lift, the ultimate humilation You and I might think it a reasonble gesture, but to an oriental, don't go there.
Trump should have offered to meet Kim on home ground, nothing to loose
talaniman
Feb 25, 2019, 08:26 PM
The dufus in NK? Naw, they make outsiders wait forever, he should have sent Pence, since the Sec of State told him no way! Oh but Pence went to south America, or someplace else far from the Nam photo shoot. Even the dufus wouldn't wait on Kim to get his hair and suit on. All this crapola for a photo shoot?
tomder55
Feb 26, 2019, 08:49 AM
no way !!! I'm glad Trump isn't going to Beijing to meet Xi . They don't deserve that respect .
paraclete
Feb 26, 2019, 02:18 PM
So Tom you are not suggesting the Chinese are equals on the world stage, but are not worthy of your respect
tomder55
Feb 27, 2019, 06:03 AM
The Chinese have plundered American intellectual property for years . I think the US should treat China like they are ,an aggressive rival . They don't play by rules so you can wish all you like for a level playing field ....but it will never happen .
paraclete
Feb 27, 2019, 10:54 AM
The Chinese have plundered American intellectual property for years . I think the US should treat China like they are ,an aggressive rival . They don't play by rules so you can wish all you like for a level playing field ....but it will never happen .
Only because you allowed them to do it and you got back the cheap products. You want it both ways, always have, but they have become strong enough to play you at your own game. I never asked for a level playing field, that is your concept so you can plunder the world
tomder55
Feb 27, 2019, 02:50 PM
sometimes the big dogs gonna fight.
paraclete
Feb 27, 2019, 04:32 PM
Always
talaniman
Feb 27, 2019, 07:29 PM
What's Russia doing in 'Nam advising the dufus? Aw, never mind, no telling what strange bedfellows we may find when the camera ain't rolling.
paraclete
Feb 27, 2019, 07:31 PM
What's Russia doing in 'Nam advising the dufus? Aw, never mind, no telling what strange bedfellows we may find when the camera ain't rolling.
Show us the evidence otherwise all you have is smoke and mirrors
talaniman
Feb 27, 2019, 08:18 PM
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cache/lw600/170/17036/1703611.jpg
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cache/lw600/170/17016/1701688.jpg
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/170/17021/1702158.gif
paraclete
Feb 27, 2019, 09:38 PM
More allegations, just smoke and mirrors
talaniman
Feb 28, 2019, 04:01 AM
Doesn't matter, the party broke up early, and the dufus is headed home to feed his base more lies and BS.
paraclete
Feb 28, 2019, 04:40 AM
Doesn't matter, the party broke up early, and the dufus is headed home to feed his base more lies and BS.
Well that might be so but no deal is better than a bad deal. Sanctions are hurting Kim and he was desperate to remove them but only offered a small concession. Trump was playing for the end game and so no deal means more negotiations and maybe some movement on human rights
tomder55
Feb 28, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aw, never mind, no telling what strange bedfellows we may find when the camera ain't rolling.
or when they think they are off mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxEDomUlXw
Kim's train derailed. He thought Trump was the same as previous Presidents who would cave and make a deal for the sake of making a deal. Now Kim knows that any deal struck will have to be honored by him.
talaniman
Feb 28, 2019, 03:12 PM
As opposed to standing at the podium in front of the world and saying "Vlad didn't do it!" "MBS didn't do it!", and "Kim didn't do it!" ?
tomder55
Feb 28, 2019, 04:31 PM
The summit was not one of Trumps finest hours. He made public statements affirming the character of a man who authorized the execution of his uncle with an anti-aircraft gun;his brother with wmd . He disgustingly gave a pass to Kim about the murder of American citizen Warmbier . I would not have begun talks with him until he emptied his concentration camp gulag .
paraclete
Feb 28, 2019, 09:18 PM
I would not have begun talks with him until he emptied his concentration camp gulag .
Well you see, that might have been one of the demands before a deal was done. But it is easy, want the camps emptied, just agree to take them as refugees and you can empty them immediately
talaniman
Mar 1, 2019, 03:48 AM
Kim can go home and kick his prisoners, and maybe the dufus can stop in Israel and hug Netty before he gets home to face what promises to be a blistering expose of more of his cronies, and their antics, on his behalf.
paraclete
Mar 1, 2019, 06:07 AM
Kim can go home and kick his prisoners, and maybe the dufus can stop in Israel and hug Netty before he gets home to face what promises to be a blistering expose of more of his cronies, and their antics, on his behalf.
No he can't hug Netty. Netty is being done for corruption. The Jews in the US must be going ape over that, probably want Donald to rescue him. Any bets on an emergency in Israel.
Don't worry about Kim he can point to the americans and say not only did they lie but they weren't serious
talaniman
Mar 1, 2019, 06:30 AM
Kim is a ruthless dictator who can lie with impunity and destroy anyone of his countrymen who doesn't praise him for it. Unlike the dufus, who's lies are questioned and broadcast through the land everyday, all day. Advantage... Kim (Vlad and Xi!)
Poor Netty, he never did get it, and I doubt the dufus can save him even if he wanted to because he will be quite busy saving his own corrupt butt. A hug is all he's got on the way out. Whose next is the question.
paraclete
Mar 1, 2019, 10:31 PM
Let me see here, you contend Kim doesn't need to lie since no one would call him on it, but Trump needs to lie to keep his image with the fake news media. Trump didn't settle for half, now you can criticize this, or applaud it, but Kim could not be allowed to have things his way, otherwise, it would be the mouse belling the cat
tomder55
Mar 2, 2019, 11:44 AM
Trump made more concessions for nothing ,and it barely made the news
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-military-cancel-exercise-south-korean-20190301-story.html
paraclete
Mar 2, 2019, 05:19 PM
That link goes nowhere
tomder55
Mar 3, 2019, 07:28 AM
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/
tomder55
Mar 3, 2019, 07:35 AM
The NORKS
are in the midst of its massive Winter Training Cycle, practice for an invasion of SK
and we're ending our large-scale defensive exercises? Dangerous move on our part.
paraclete
Mar 3, 2019, 01:52 PM
Do you think they don't know they would be annilated if they did