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Athos
Jun 29, 2018, 07:25 AM
"A president under active criminal investigation of whether he won legitimately and whether he has obstructed that very investigation should not be permitted by a mere Senate majority to designate the justice whose votes could prove pivotal to the fate of his presidency."
Add that to the obvious crooked behavior of Trump re emoluments, appointing grifters to the cabinet, rolling back regulations protecting American citizens, and so forth, and, most egregiously, "winning" the presidency by a technicality based on an outmoded quirky electoral college while losing the popular vote by THREE MILLION votes AND by an election criminally interfered with by the enemy of democracies everywhere Russia - what more malfeasance is necessary to stop Trump from nominating a justice who will further tip the court to a place from whence it may never return?
Time to see some Profiles In Courage rise from the ranks of the Republicans who object to seeing women dying in back alleys. Time for these to refuse to sell their soul for a mess of pottage. There must be someone on that side of the aisle with a shred of decency left.
Oliver2011
Jun 29, 2018, 08:01 AM
The investigation is under investigation. If they had any evidence, it would have been shared by now.
"There must be someone on that side of the aisle with a shred of decency left." Really?
Nancy Pelosi
Maxine Waters
Enough said...
Athos
Jun 29, 2018, 08:50 AM
The investigation is under investigation. If they had any evidence, it would have been shared by now.
That's not how investigations work. Typical pro-Trump nonsense.
tomder55
Jun 29, 2018, 04:55 PM
Because Harry Reid broke Senate tradition waiving the filibuster rules for confirming justices ;Trump will get whoever he wants confirmed before the midterm elections . My choice is Mike Lee ;but I suspect that like Goresuch ,Trump will select a justice who clerked under Kennedy
btw Collins and Murkowski are your best bet for defections . and if Roe was reversed (doubtful) ;the issue would go back to being a state power issue.
talaniman
Jun 30, 2018, 07:55 AM
Even lawsuits decided in the states over policy can rise to Scotus and I see a whole bunch of them rising RAPIDLY.
tomder55
Jul 1, 2018, 02:34 AM
all the more reason to favor a constitutional textualist .
paraclete
Jul 1, 2018, 05:54 AM
Isn't a great thing that the court only rules on what is submitted to them
talaniman
Jul 1, 2018, 08:56 AM
Isn't a great thing that the court only rules on what is submitted to them
Reread post #5... the right wing loony agenda will be submitted!
tomder55
Jul 1, 2018, 09:45 AM
you see because it is ok for SCOTUS to overturn law you don't like or that was wrongly decided ie Plessy was overturned by Brown v Topeka ...or you would like SCOTUS to reverse Citizen's United . But a decision that you do like cannot be reversed because it is now "settled law " . You will hear that phrase a lot in the coming weeks .
smoothy
Jul 1, 2018, 10:55 AM
Good god, get over yourself. He won the election and the only people who actually believe otherwise are the people who supported the career criminal Hildebeast Clintard who was PROVEN to have not even legitimately won her own primary without massive fraud. Proven fact, Even the DNC admitted to it and people were fired for it, and THEY don't disagree with it. Trump has the right and the duty to select Justices. As did the idiot that was in office the previous 8 years.
And its NOT an investigation, its nothing more than a Witch hunt, by Clinton aligned operatives, and THAT has in fact been proven as well. And in fact there has been exactly ZERO proof Trump did ANYTHING, and lots of proof the Democrats actually have. Funny how none of them have been indicted yeat for THEIR collusion with the Russians, just more proof Mueller is a political hack and has actually committed many crimes himself.
But then being Canadian, you really appear to be quite uneducated in how things are done and have been done for hundreds of years in the USA. You must be so aweful proud of Trudeau, not even most Canadians can stand him.
talaniman
Jul 1, 2018, 12:36 PM
you see because it is ok for SCOTUS to overturn law you don't like or that was wrongly decided ie Plessy was overturned by Brown v Topeka ...or you would like SCOTUS to reverse Citizen's United . But a decision that you do like cannot be reversed because it is now "settled law " . You will hear that phrase a lot in the coming weeks .
It's a CIVIL WAR... No blood, just the right wing loony fringe and the racists rabble have the power of the government. Of course they will use it against their enemies, the left wing loonies, disenfranchised moderate conservatives, liberals, dems, and people of color. Which side are YOU on? Just want to be sure since the Lying cheating Dufus is your leader and has said more dumb stuff and done more wrong than anybody on both sides.
Trump has absolute power, and of course he is corrupted absolutely. You'll see.
Good god, get over yourself. He won the election and the only people who actually believe otherwise are the people who supported the career criminal Hildebeast Clintard who was PROVEN to have not even legitimately won her own primary without massive fraud. Proven fact, Even the DNC admitted to it and people were fired for it, and THEY don't disagree with it. Trump has the right and the duty to select Justices. As did the idiot that was in office the previous 8 years.
And its NOT an investigation, its nothing more than a Witch hunt, by Clinton aligned operatives, and THAT has in fact been proven as well. And in fact there has been exactly ZERO proof Trump did ANYTHING, and lots of proof the Democrats actually have. Funny how none of them have been indicted yeat for THEIR collusion with the Russians, just more proof Mueller is a political hack and has actually committed many crimes himself.
But then being Canadian, you really appear to be quite uneducated in how things are done and have been done for hundreds of years in the USA. You must be so aweful proud of Trudeau, not even most Canadians can stand him.
No fair copy and pasting old posts.
paraclete
Jul 1, 2018, 07:00 PM
Do you hear yourself tal, I agree with smoothy, get over it. Your antiquated system of selection gave him the election, it wasn't first past the post or who got the most votes but how many states were in favour of him, it was a resounding victory on that front giving him a mandate to proceed in a certain direction. You may not like the man, I don't like the man, but get focused on how to beat him, not the past
Athos
Jul 1, 2018, 07:37 PM
Do you hear yourself tal, I agree with smoothy, get over it. Your antiquated system of selection gave him the election, it wasn't first past the post or who got the most votes but how many states were in favour of him, it was a resounding victory on that front giving him a mandate to proceed in a certain direction. You may not like the man, I don't like the man, but get focused on how to beat him, not the past
(Smoothy's a troll - it's best to ignore trolls. He's good for comic relief, but little else.)
Trump's "resounding victory" was aided and abetted by Russia. All that remains to be determined is how much and whether their interference was decisive. Trump is running scared, telegraphing his collusion with the Russians as he desperately keeps trying to change the subject.
paraclete
Jul 1, 2018, 11:25 PM
(Smoothy's a troll - it's best to ignore trolls. He's good for comic relief, but little else.)
Trump's "resounding victory" was aided and abetted by Russia. All that remains to be determined is how much and whether their interference was decisive. Trump is running scared, telegraphing his collusion with the Russians as he desperately keeps trying to change the subject.
I don't believe that, you allow them too much influence and in that you think americans are mindless idiots. The fact is people were just tired of the same old raz-a-ma-taz and opted for something different. Anyway, poetic justice if the Russians did interfere
tomder55
Jul 2, 2018, 03:48 AM
the idea that the Russians can in any way affect our elections is the comic relief
talaniman
Jul 2, 2018, 05:45 AM
Don't laugh. Russia, and NK, China and a few others are more capable of cyber warfare than you think and to dismiss the capability and willingness to use it is a big mistake. Not only is it worth looking into, it's IMPERATIVE to investigate and understand that capability. Just ask Sony, and other big Bizz types (Read about Estonia cyber attacks). Open your mind a bit and get beyond the constant drone of lies and misdirection, and ego driven ANTICS the Dufus spews twice daily. What are you that technically challenged that you can dismiss that offhand?
There is a history of data supporting Vlad and his sycophants as well as Kim and his horde undermine us at every cyber level.
King Reagan said trust but VERIFY! The best advice I ever heard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia
Athos
Jul 2, 2018, 09:33 AM
the idea that the Russians can in any way affect our elections is the comic relief
US intelligence agencies differ with you. So does President Obama and (surprise!) Donald Trump.
Mueller has already indicted several people (including 13 Russians) and 4 have pleaded guilty with one currently in jail awaiting trial. The probable cause for interference is overwhelming and only the details remain to be revealed.
Another erstwhile Trump supporter bit the dust today - Michael Cohen - who no longer is "taking a bullet for Trump", but has decided his family and country come first. The ship is sinking.
talaniman
Jul 2, 2018, 01:43 PM
The data is out there for those that choose to read it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/02/corporate-buybacks-are-the-only-thing-keeping-the-stock-market-afloat.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/02/state-economies-caught-in-widening-trade-war.html
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/08/16/103871859-IMG_5181.720x405.JPG?v=1530561933 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/02/wilbur-ross-shorted-two-additional-shares-as-commerce-secretary.html)
(CLICK ON PICTURE)
What if Trumps lawsuits end up before the Supreme Court? Would his picks be made to recuse themselves?
https://www.greensboro.com/news/maryland-judge-to-hear-foreign-payments-case-against-trump/article_185e3f2c-5b0e-58e9-94e8-657df595a410.html
AND
Trump Org Donates $151K in Foreign Profits to U.S. Treasury (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/trump-org-donates-usd151k-in-foreign-profits-to-u-s-treasury.html)
tomder55
Jul 2, 2018, 05:15 PM
Mueller has already indicted several people (including 13 Russians) and 4 have pleaded guilty with one currently in jail awaiting trial
Indictments that have anything to do with Donald Trump - 0
Guilty pleas that involve Donald Trump in any way - 0
The Russians he indicted;well their cases will never go to trial . Not that they don't want it .Mueller gambled that they would never have to answer the charges . But a couple of them want to go to the discovery phase and Mueller is stonewalling . Same thing with Flynn ,He has nothing on Flynn so he keeps on delaying the trial .Manafort he got on old business unrelated to the Trump campaign and is using that to try to turn Manafort .
He MAY have something on Cohen related to Trump past business activities . Extremely doubtful that it has anything to do with the election . But as I have said from day one ;Trump's vulnerability is in sleazy real estate dealings . Any prosecutor worth their salt should be able to find something untoward on any real estate developer in this area . I don't think it is possible to have an honest real estate development business in this area .
tomder55
Jul 2, 2018, 05:22 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_c...cks_on_Estonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia)
really ? Your best argument is Russian hacking of a 3rd world country's infrastructure a decade ago ? BTW Russia would have zero chance of pulling off a similar attack today in Estonia.
talaniman
Jul 2, 2018, 05:43 PM
Oh wow, like Russia hasn't learned a thing or two since then? You really are technologically challenged. Vlad counts on that too. So do Xi and Kim. You aren't learning anything from Target or Facebook. Or Yahoo for that matter. Why do you think they stopped using Chinese phones for American service people?
https://www.cnet.com/news/pentagon-reportedly-bans-sale-of-huawei-and-zte-phones-on-us-military-bases/
Tip of the iceberg dude.
paraclete
Jul 2, 2018, 06:03 PM
Oh wow, like Russia hasn't learned a thing or two since then? You really are technologically challenged. Vlad counts on that too. So do Xi and Kim. You aren't learning anything from Target or Facebook. Or Yahoo for that matter. Why do you think they stopped using Chinese phones for American service people?
https://www.cnet.com/news/pentagon-reportedly-bans-sale-of-huawei-and-zte-phones-on-us-military-bases/
Tip of the iceberg dude.
You are really hung up on this smoking gun idea Tal, Yes, Putin would decree a disinformation campaign particularly as he wouldn't want to have to deal with that dill Hilliary. The Chinese might represent a risk but you could load your own software on the phones besides which phone isn't made in China. Woo, a cold shiver descends upon me, my Zte phone and Huawei Wifi are spying on me, I wonder what Netflix is doing, or Google, they represent a greater threat. The empire is failing and thrashing about. The knives are out for the dictator and he had better not go to the Senate but take heart, you still have friends, although I don't know why
tomder55
Jul 3, 2018, 03:06 AM
and of course this has nothing to do with the phony investigation we have been subject to for now over a year . Both Peter Strzok in closed testimony ,and Rod Rosenstein in open testimony were uncooperative with the House Judiciary Committee investigating so called "Russia-gate " . The FBI is clearly in coverup mode .
House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte said that FBI lawyers are instructing Strzok not to answer questions from congress about the nature of his involvement .
As for Rosenstein ;he should be fired immediately .He refused to take responsibility for the FISA application he signed. He wouldn't even acknowledge having read the application asking a federal judge to suspend the fundamental right to privacy of American citizens.When asked if it was his responsibility to read FISA applications he signed he said
“It depends on the circumstances”. Really ? Your taking away someone's 4th amendment protections and not reading the document that does it ?
An engineer signing off on a defective bridge would find themselves in legal jeopardy ;but the Deputy Assistant FBI Director gets a pass ?
He refused to take responsibility for unlawful redactions and unlawful delays in handing information to Congress.
Contempt and Obstruction charges should be filed immediately by the House Judiciary Committee for both Strzok and Rosenstein .
tomder55
Jul 3, 2018, 05:41 AM
My new favorite potential candidate is Amul Thapar . He is a constitutional originalist ;from Michigan ,and the son of immigrants from India .He's 49 ;meaning he'd serve for decades ;and he has a ton of public service in his resume. He has already been confirmed by the Senate for judicial posts 3 times before . His dad was a heating and AC repairman and Thapar spent summers driving trucks for him .His mother sold her successful restaurant to become a social worker after 9/11 to help soldiers transition back into the private sector.
He is not from the swamp ;not an Ivy Leaguer . He prosecuted terrorists .He's worked both sides also being a defense lawyer .He teaches at UV Law School and lectures at the Ivy League schools he did not attend .
The final endorsement in my book is that the libs are freaking out over the possibility of him being an associate justice of SCOTUS .
https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/there-is-no-supreme-court-vacancy-but-this-group-is-already?utm_term=.ixl0Gdbog#.ouM2xDGRe
It would be so much fun watching the Dems trash another minority selection during confirmation hearings .
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 06:29 AM
You are really hung up on this smoking gun idea Tal, Yes, Putin would decree a disinformation campaign particularly as he wouldn't want to have to deal with that dill Hilliary. The Chinese might represent a risk but you could load your own software on the phones besides which phone isn't made in China. Woo, a cold shiver descends upon me, my Zte phone and Huawei Wifi are spying on me, I wonder what Netflix is doing, or Google, they represent a greater threat. The empire is failing and thrashing about. The knives are out for the dictator and he had better not go to the Senate but take heart, you still have friends, although I don't know why
You seem less cyber savvy than our friend Tom, if you don't know Netflix tracks your usage and preferences just like Google and uses outside firms that they share this info with, to tailor your cyber experience just for YOU. Part of the Facebook scandal was not only having YOUR information but that of your friends who you allow on your Facebook page. This data is accessed by the outside contractors who design the software and they appear to be the entry point into hackers, and criminals seeking that data. This is also suspected in state and government systems especially voter rolls here and no doubt abroad given them a wide range of targets to steal data from. So you are correct in saying that Netflix and Google do represent a HUGE threat to your personal info, and data (Think your banking and credit cards you use online, AND your friends.). It's no wonder ordinary people are not aware of such cyber threats or the capabilities of hackers and criminals nor can imagine hundreds and thousands of TECHS in the employment of governments working to access and us such data around the world. It's a problem and that everybody who does know and understand this threat is scrambling to deal with. In this sense we all are flailing and thrashing about for the right fixes and adjustment against some very sophisticated and determined adversaries.
If your local law enforcement can track your location (And they all can very easily), and decrypt your texts and emails what makes you think that governments cannot if you were IMPORTANT enough to them? Fortunately for YOU and ME we are not, but soldier stationed on military bases are. Geez we have had SPY satellites for decades and who doesn't have Google EARTH?
LOL, we still have friends, albeit not so happy with The Dufus, because we are still the BADDEST dog in the neighborhood. In that there is no failure despite The Dufus's devise and abrasive behavior during our silly season. He is getting really desperate, him and his sycophants to retain power, and even grab MORE!
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 06:35 AM
and of course this has nothing to do with the phony investigation we have been subject to for now over a year . Both Peter Strzok in closed testimony ,and Rod Rosenstein in open testimony were uncooperative with the House Judiciary Committee investigating so called "Russia-gate " . The FBI is clearly in coverup mode .
House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte said that FBI lawyers are instructing Strzok not to answer questions from congress about the nature of his involvement .
As for Rosenstein ;he should be fired immediately .He refused to take responsibility for the FISA application he signed. He wouldn't even acknowledge having read the application asking a federal judge to suspend the fundamental right to privacy of American citizens.When asked if it was his responsibility to read FISA applications he signed he said
“It depends on the circumstances”. Really ? Your taking away someone's 4th amendment protections and not reading the document that does it ?
An engineer signing off on a defective bridge would find themselves in legal jeopardy ;but the Deputy Assistant FBI Director gets a pass ?
He refused to take responsibility for unlawful redactions and unlawful delays in handing information to Congress.
Contempt and Obstruction charges should be filed immediately by the House Judiciary Committee for both Strzok and Rosenstein .
Your denial of the facts and skewing of the truth leads you to some pretty wild speculations that fits your narrative like a glove. More will be revealed later for sure but what we saw in the Rosenstein hearing was Trumps sycophants covering their savior and fishing for information in a sensitive ONGOING investigation. Trey Gowdy spent a few years investigating Clinton, now he wants The Dufus investigation to be STOPPED?
That's the definition of HYPOCRISY! Pretty flimsy logic here Tom.
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 06:42 AM
My new favorite potential candidate is Amul Thapar . He is a constitutional originalist ;from Michigan ,and the son of immigrants from India .He's 49 ;meaning he'd serve for decades ;and he has a ton of public service in his resume. He has already been confirmed by the Senate for judicial posts 3 times before . His dad was a heating and AC repairman and Thapar spent summers driving trucks for him .His mother sold her successful restaurant to become a social worker after 9/11 to help soldiers transition back into the private sector.
He is not from the swamp ;not an Ivy Leaguer . He prosecuted terrorists .He's worked both sides also being a defense lawyer .He teaches at UV Law School and lectures at the Ivy League schools he did not attend .
The final endorsement in my book is that the libs are freaking out over the possibility of him being an associate justice of SCOTUS .
https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/there-is-no-supreme-court-vacancy-but-this-group-is-already?utm_term=.ixl0Gdbog#.ouM2xDGRe
It would be so much fun watching the Dems trash another minority selection during confirmation hearings .
The Dufus did a great job outsourcing his judge picks to conservatives and a few loonies for sure. No push back from them. In truth doesn't matter what the dems do or say. Mitch has all the cards and will play them, and he has time on his side for sure.
Dems can do nothing but holler, which repubs and you will laugh and throw rocks. Can't blame you, I would do the same if I had your hand, so obviously it's YOUR turn to ENJOY IT WILL IT LASTS!
paraclete
Jul 3, 2018, 06:49 AM
Tal some day you will understand rhetoric in the meantime don't get biitten when the dog bites its fleas
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 07:07 AM
That's what flea collars are for but a SMART big dog doesn't lay down with the little dogs and best they stay on the porch when he's around. In no way do I suggest Trump is a big dog, just a loud undisciplined mongrel mutt!
How's that for rhetoric?
tomder55
Jul 3, 2018, 07:26 AM
if you don't see the connection linking the Evita investigation with the Dems unlawful attempts to take down the Trump candidacy /Presidency then you are missing the bigger narrative. Yeah it was likely that anything would come from an Evita investigation with the emperor's minions in Justice ,State , the Intel community ,and the compliant press running cover for her .As far as I'm concerned the Evita investigation is far from over . You think that because they are out of office that they have run out the clock ? The IG report was loaded with malfeasance by the whole group of them .
and you can bleat all you want about that great Russian cyber mind games . A couple of Russian bots and troll bloggers in pajamas in their momma's house had zero influence on the election (at least you've given up the lunatic assertions that they "hacked " the election .at least now you call it an agitprop campaign ) …
If you want to know the key to why Trump won read Salena Zito's book on the campaign . https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076YZC99L/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 08:56 AM
Are you saying that Trump's hand picked republicans are working with the out of power dems to screw Trump? If that's not loony tunes then I don't know what is. What dems control Rosenstein and Mueller (Both life long repubs)? Name a few, explain your insanity.
tomder55
Jul 3, 2018, 09:12 AM
you dont want me to start in about Mueller do you ? Do you want me to include the recent reporting the Mueller conspired to cover up Saudi involvement in 9-11 ? I've already detailed other Mueller screwed up investigations in past posts ;including the anthrax case when he relentlessly investigated an innocent man.
Mueller is protecting his good friend James Comey .Rosenstein is protecting the agency . That part of it is not really a Dem /Repub thingy except for the fact that the agency threw all it's eggs in the Evita basket and made a decision based on the rationale that she would win so they had to be seen on her side of both the email investigation ;and the election . Those texts / emails between Strzok and his paramour Lisa Page are the only honest things you've seen from the FBI throughout this whole affair .
talaniman
Jul 3, 2018, 01:10 PM
Those two got canned, but let me get this straight. The Dufus and his sycophants are the good guys, and Mueller and the intel committee are the bad guys. Did I read that right?
tomder55
Jul 3, 2018, 01:55 PM
yeah you got that right .
The DOJ IG report destroyed the credibility of both the DOJ & FBI and it also confirms that the emperor's DOJ & FBI investigation of Evita was
, half-baked, rushed, rigged, & compromised by anti-Trump & pro-Evita bias & actions.
The report details repeated DOJ/FBI deference to Evita , her aides ,cronies ,and their lawyers. You see in the 2 investigations an unequal treatment . At the same time they were whitewashing Evita's transactions they were working on her behalf to follow up on charges that her campaign paid for in the Fusion GPS Steele dossier .
The IG report details how at least five top FBI agents and lawyers exchanged pro-Clinton and anti-Trump communications(not just the 2 I mentioned ...and they did not get canned ;they were reassigned ). The IG report states that this bias cast a cloud over the credibility of the Evita email and Russia investigations.
Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who was appointed by President Obama ,has also opened investigations into James Comey's leaking of classified documents to his gumba in the press ;and he also released a report about Andrew McCabe being dishonest to investigators about how classified FBI docs ended up in the hands of the Wall Street Journal .
Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who met with Bubba Clinton just days before Evita's FBI interview, was also a subject of Horowitz’s report.
Am I the only one who noticed that the FBI was able to review 650,000 to 1 million of Evita's Emails on Weiner's laptop to determine she was innocent in 4 days but it has taken 18 months to produce the few documents that the Congressional committees have requested ?
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 06:35 AM
So we end up with a vanilla pudding marshmallow Bushie from Yale . YAWN ! . Going to be hard for the Dems to scream their doomsday Casandra warnings . Best guess is that since Kavanaugh clerked with the likes of Kennedy and Sotomayor that he will try to duplicate Kennedy's attempts at being the "swing vote " .
For those of you who think he'll be a deciding vote on abortion;think again. 'Garza v. Hargan ' he concurred with an opinion that a teenage illegal alien caught at the border and put in detention has a right to an abortion in the United States.Kavanaugh argued that in saying the illegal alien teen had a right to abortion in the United States he was accepting the government’s assumption regarding existing Supreme Court precedents. So keep your shorts on . Let your head explode about something else.
talaniman
Jul 10, 2018, 07:13 AM
My objection is 1) The Dufus is under criminal investigation, and 2) The precedent of waiting for the people to vote has been set by Slick Mitch. Gathering rocks as we speak!
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 08:51 AM
politics . 1. Mueller says the President is NOT the subject of his investigation .
2. Your side screwed by changing the 60 vote to end filibuster rule for judicial appointments .
Assuming that once Collins and Murkowski are properly greased up .and Rand Paul takes his meds ;and they wheel McCain into the Senate .... the Repubs should have enough votes . Then there are Dem Senators like Manchin who are vulnerable this fall ,whose states voted for Trump who will probably fall in line ;as well as some Dem swamp creatures who realize that this guy is not the threat that Rachel Madcow, Chris Matthews , and Joe and Mika make it sound ....bottom line is his confirmation is a lock unless they find ways to BORK him .
Athos
Jul 10, 2018, 09:17 AM
So we end up with a vanilla pudding marshmallow Bushie from Yale .
The Democrats should do EXACTLY what the Republicans did to Garland. McConnell's rule was to do nothing during an election year. Nothing should be done for anyone Colludin' Donald nominates this election year.
Especially since Justice Kennedy's retirement conveniently comes a few months before there would have been a fairer playing field.
This is not the first favor the Kennedys have done for Trump.
Kennedy's son was a senior bank officer with Deutsche Bank when Trump could get zero credit from American banks because he was a known deadbeat. Kennedy, head of the real estate division, managed to loan Trump over one BILLION dollars (that's BILLION with a "B").
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 09:41 AM
it was a Presidential election year . we can revisit that in 2020 . Meanwhile the Dems don't have the power .They were in the minority then and they are in the minority now .
I have no doubt that the Kennedy retirement was a prearranged event .
Will be interesting to see who he replaces Ginsburg with . The Dems have her on life support and vitamin injections .
Oliver2011
Jul 10, 2018, 09:48 AM
Trump could have said any name and Pelosi, Chuck, and the idiot Maxine would have been screaming before he got the name fully out of his mouth. Same works for the other side I know. It's become ridiculous to watch the news anymore. It's sad really.
talaniman
Jul 10, 2018, 10:39 AM
Of course Slick Mitch wants to get his guy in before the election in case he is no longer the Main Man for The Dufus after the election. He is a ruthless political beast. My side needs one of those.
Elections have consequences and so does NOT voting during the mid terms. Electing Obama was great, but leaving him alone against the repubs was STUPID! Thinking repubs are going down without one helluva fight is even more STUPID!
Oliver2011
Jul 10, 2018, 11:11 AM
I am no way a Mitch M fan. I don't want him to be the face of the conservatives as well as I am sure the democrats don't want Pelosi or Idiot Maxine.
Athos
Jul 10, 2018, 12:30 PM
it was a Presidential election year . we can revisit that in 2020 . Meanwhile the Dems don't have the power .They were in the minority then and they are in the minority now .
I have no doubt that the Kennedy retirement was a prearranged event .
Will be interesting to see who he replaces Ginsburg with . The Dems have her on life support and vitamin injections .
McConnell is one of the worst politicians to ever darken the halls of Congress. He is a total zero and his public comments not to serve the duly-elected President Obama were treasonous. He disgusts people on all sides except the driven ideologues.
(I had to smile at the Ginsburg crack - she does look frail).
Athos
Jul 10, 2018, 01:06 PM
I have no doubt that the Kennedy retirement was a prearranged event .
Not only that, the report now is that Kennedy and Trump colluded for Kennedy to retire when he did so that his former law clerk Kavanagh would get the nomination.
There's just no end to the corruption of these creeps.
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 02:01 PM
ironically ,it's Trumps "right to choose " .
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 02:07 PM
I hear the Dems plan is to feeze Ruth Ginsberg in carbonite until the next SCOTUS session .
Wondergirl
Jul 10, 2018, 02:12 PM
I hear the Dems plan is to feeze Ruth Ginsberg in carbonite until the next SCOTUS session .
No, in bubblewrap.
tomder55
Jul 10, 2018, 04:14 PM
bubblewrap would've worked too ..... but too late
https://babylonbee.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ginsbonite-1024x580.jpg
tomder55
Jul 11, 2018, 06:42 AM
one has to wonder why the emperor did not try to talk Ruth Ginsberg into retiring when he had the clout . Also one of these days the nation will see my logic in judges having term limits .
talaniman
Jul 11, 2018, 08:20 AM
one has to wonder why the emperor did not try to talk Ruth Ginsberg into retiring when he had the clout . Also one of these days the nation will see my logic in judges having term limits .
I already see that logic since our executive and legislative branches have become feckless political BOOBS fighting for power and control instead of PROGRESS!
tomder55
Jul 11, 2018, 08:26 AM
40 years is too long . There are plenty examples where these judges become senile .
paraclete
Jul 11, 2018, 04:25 PM
Yes retiring at 70 would seem a good idea
talaniman
Jul 11, 2018, 07:44 PM
You don't have to be senile to be out of touch, but the greater danger, is to be influenced by the political winds instead of the confluence of the law.
paraclete
Jul 11, 2018, 08:43 PM
Are you saying democrat appointees are influenced by the political winds
talaniman
Jul 11, 2018, 09:17 PM
Just the ones appointed by the DUFUS!
paraclete
Jul 11, 2018, 10:21 PM
Ridiculous statement
jlisenbe
Jul 28, 2018, 06:41 PM
Thank goodness Tal avoids hate speech by calling the president "the Dufus". Yep. Nothing like a little civility.
talaniman
Jul 28, 2018, 07:46 PM
Dufus is short for lying, cheating, loudmouth, bullying DUFUS. Descriptive and accurate. Sometimes I get tired of writing the whole thing. You think I'm wrong? Tell me how, and please let's not revisit the Hillary thing. This is about one guy who is the president NOW.
I'm listening!
jlisenbe
Jul 28, 2018, 08:59 PM
How quickly democrats want to avoid talking about HC. Is Trump a mess? Yes. Is he a mess with an economy that, in only 18 months, has already far surpassed anything Mr. Obama did? Yes. Has he done more with NoKo and NATO than Mr. Obama did? Yes. And has he nominated two believers in the rule of law to the Supreme Court? Yes. So in spite of his many failings, I hang in there with him. Of course, we could also point out Ms. Clinton's many accomplishments. If, that is, if we could think of any.
I'll say it again. Anyone who supported HC for president should be ashamed to say so much as a single negative word about Mr. Trump. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Good grief.
Athos
Jul 29, 2018, 03:11 AM
an economy that, in only 18 months, has already far surpassed anything Mr. Obama did? Yes.
Complete and utter nonsense. Even Trump supporters don't go this far. Trump, of course, is the source for this bizarre statement. Obama inherited a near world-wide economic collapse from the Republican Bush Administration and prevented a financial disaster that was feared to be worse than the Great Depression. Today's economy simply continues the impetus gained from the Obama years. I am always shocked at the ignorance of the right-wing when it comes to basic economics especially since all the stats are readily available on the internet to anyone who can read.
Has he done more with NoKo and NATO than Mr. Obama did? Yes.
So far North Korea has achieved a status it's been aiming at for decades and has gotten Trump to agree to North Korean demands to cancel the joint US/South Korean military exercises. In return, Trump achieved nothing. After the latest talks, Pompeo called them "productive". North Korea called them "regrettable".
Trump's criticism of NATO is simply untrue. He has lied about financing, about readiness, and just about everything else he said. As a candidate, he admitted he didn't know much about NATO. He still doesn't. And his attacks against NATO fit perfectly into Putin's foreign policy re NATO.
These two diplomatic disasters of Trump should tell you all you need to know about his negotiating talents. And I haven't even gotten to Trump agreeing with Russia in preference to his own intelligence organization. Treason, many said. Certainly close to that.
And has he nominated two believers in the rule of law to the Supreme Court? Yes.
That's pretty vague, isn't it? "Two believers in the rule of law". I'm sure your real interest in his nominations are their positions of repealing Roe v. Wade, and not their being "believers in the rule of law". Kavanagh has even gone on record as believing Trump is above the law. A strange position, indeed, for someone who believes in the rule of law. Like all evangelicals who base their support of Trump almost exclusively on an anti-abortion platform, even in the face of a lifestyle repellent to Christians, I suspect you fall into that category.
Of course, we could also point out Ms. Clinton's many accomplishments.
It never fails, does it? You Trump supporters always bring up Hillary. It's usually Benghazi or uranium. The one having been investigated no less than TEN TIMES (once by Gowdy) and having found nothing and the other a charge so ridiculous none but the farthest far out are still working it.
Anyone who supported HC for president should be ashamed to say so much as a single negative word about Mr. Trump.
Does that include the 66 million who voted for Clinton - 3 million more than Trump!
For someone who preaches civility, you don't seem very civil yourself.
jlisenbe
Jul 29, 2018, 05:13 AM
Obama supporters always trot out the same nonsense. Always the same narrative. The country was about to fall apart, blah, blah, blah, but saint Obama managed to forestall that. 8 years and 10 trillion dollars of debt later, the economy was still only limping along. He had eight years to see a true economic recovery and failed miserably. Trump accomplished that in 18 months. He has made it clear to NATO that it's time for them to pick up the burden for their own defense. NoKo has stopped testing missles and is making at least some progress towards dismantling their nukes. And yes, the 73 Roe decision had nothing to do with law. The Constitution is not even quoted in the majority decision. You are OK with babies killed in the womb. I am not. The principle of the rule of law is vague? Only to you.
It's difficult to discuss these things with someone who is intentionally blind.
And I'll say it again, since no one has bothered to answer it. If you supported Ms. Clinton, then you have no ground to complain about a president who lies. The Clintons were both accomplished, skillful liars. Just remember, for one example, the ridiculous tale she told of flying into Kosovo under sniper fire and having to be hurried off the base. Turned out that the story was just another Clinton whopper.
I am not a Trump supporter. He does many things I don't like (routinely lying is one of them), and if a sensible candidate is put forward in two years, I'll vote for that person. But I get tired of reading material from people who are so full of passionate hate for Trump that they cannot be fair-minded in their appraisal of his performance, nor can they defend their support of a candidate who was equally a liar.
I'm done. This is going no where.
talaniman
Jul 29, 2018, 05:55 AM
I get that way too watching the loudmouth Dufus tweet and talk on TV spewing lies and crazy stuff. One can only imagine how sensible people who hated Hillary must feel with this Dufus as the only alternative. I see no change in 2020 though but you can always send a democratic house and senate to Washington as a balance to The Dufus.
That's how the founders solved that queasy feeling with an election every TWO years. Good for reigning in would be dictators and incompetent DUFUSES.
Just sayin' and enjoy your coffee.
jlisenbe
Jul 29, 2018, 06:59 AM
Just sayin' and enjoy your coffee.
Ha! I did. Thanks.
Athos
Jul 29, 2018, 10:51 AM
I'm done. This is going no where.
Good that you are done since you're contributing nothing here. Losers are always quick to quit the field. You simply repeat lies straight from the playbook of Trump without a scintilla of evidence. Your incivility and rudeness is remarkable for a newbie to this page.
For those of us who consider Trump a "dufus", we have statistics readily available, Trump's own words from videos, innumerable tweets, a long history of Trump's business failures and evidence of a character so corrupt it boggles the mind. Trump's supporters almost invariably claim that they "don't support his lies and behavior", but voted for him anyway. One wonders.
It's a sad truth that Trump's supporters are primarily the Republican establishment who have put party agenda ahead of country, evangelicals who have subordinated the message of their founder to the single issue of abortion, and those who hope Trump will bring back a world that never was and that Trump repeatedly caters to with his never-ending campaign rallies.
His promises are hollow and his support is fraying at the edges as more and more of Trump's supporters are deserting him with every new increasingly bizarre position he manages to adopt as he frantically tries to get out from under in a world that is closing around him.
jlisenbe
Jul 29, 2018, 12:50 PM
Good that you are done since you're contributing nothing here. Losers are always quick to quit the field. You simply repeat lies straight from the playbook of Trump without a scintilla of evidence. Your incivility and rudeness is remarkable for a newbie to this page.
That's the funniest statement I've read in a long time, and I'll bet you can't figure out why. That's why I'm outa here. It's your unwillingness to think seriously without bitterness. Sad.
paraclete
Jul 29, 2018, 04:12 PM
I'm done. This is going no where.
Good that you are able to recognise the circular nature of these debates
Athos
Jul 29, 2018, 06:30 PM
That's the funniest statement I've read in a long time, and I'll bet you can't figure out why. That's why I'm outa here. It's your unwillingness to think seriously without bitterness. Sad.
Sorry, bait not taken. Seems you used this same strategy on another page on this website. Didn't work there, won't work here.
Then you charge others with not thinking seriously. This is what Trump does consistently - accuses the opposition of the very thing he is guilty of. Throw in a few ad hominems and you have a tried and true tactic used by demagogues for many years. You do it, but not very well. Your posts here are transparent to anyone reading them.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
paraclete
Jul 29, 2018, 10:22 PM
Maybe it's you who should take a time out
jlisenbe
Aug 4, 2018, 10:07 AM
As I thought. He could not figure out why. Too consumed with bitterness.