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tomder55
Sep 28, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jared Kushner, senior adviser and son-in-law to President Donald Trump, apparently registered to vote as a female.

Jared Kushner is registered to vote as a female - CNNPolitics (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html)

smoothy
Sep 28, 2017, 03:43 PM
You'd think CNN and the lefties would be praising him for that...they after all like to harp that you are what you feel, not what you was actually born with the parts for.

talaniman
Sep 28, 2017, 03:59 PM
Who cares about his gender benders? This is a better topic for liberals

Jared Kushner used private email to talk to WH officials, attorney says - CNNPolitics (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politics/jared-kushner-private-email/index.html)

tomder55
Sep 28, 2017, 04:13 PM
Is he storing classified information in a private server that can't be retrieved ?

talaniman
Sep 28, 2017, 04:51 PM
Maybe we can get to ask him when he testifies before congress again. He sure didn't disclose it when he had the chance. Hey Tom you going to start a Trump Tax reform thread here?

Okay I'll start it. Trump lies again and thinks nobody will notice his new middle class tax reform plan that won't benefit him, or the rest of the rich guys.

smoothy
Sep 28, 2017, 08:01 PM
From the fake news?

paraclete
Sep 29, 2017, 01:46 AM
A fake gender, well what do you know will all the poofters, etc, please go away we don't want to know who you are, what you are, or what you might be when you get over yourself

tomder55
Sep 29, 2017, 01:52 PM
Hey Tom you going to start a Trump Tax reform thread here?

Okay I'll start it. Trump lies again and thinks nobody will notice his new middle class tax reform plan that won't benefit him, or the rest of the rich guys.



I haven't gone through all the details yet . I am unimpressed with your analysis . All we ever hear is that the rich get richer /the poor poorer ;the middle class screwed ...no matter which plan is proposed .

The one part of it that interests me is the elimination of state and local tax deductions . I figure that will have the biggest impact on the blue states that over tax their residents . I'm betting that if it goes through then maybe the folks in those states will finally begin to question the logic behind them being taxed to death at the state level ;maybe ask their reps to justify the almost annual increases in property taxes that force people to pay the equivalent of a second mortgage to cover the taxes ...Maybe they will begin to question what value they get for this plunder at the local level.

As for me ;I'm going to be voting with my feet in the next couple of years . I can't afford to retire here ;so I'll have to move on.Maybe I'll move to a state where my vote actually matters .

talaniman
Sep 29, 2017, 08:18 PM
Come on down! Texas is a red state, with no state tax. Trumponomics is nothing more than trickle down economics on steroids. A revision of the Bush tax cuts that so far only lacks the off the books expenditures that hide increasing deficits spending so good luck selling that to conservatives who insist on deficit reductions. I doubt that's a recipe for the sustained, consistence, growth projections that Trump promises will pay for those cuts I mean REFORMS, nor would I trust those "job creators" his plan calls for to do the right thing for Americans (good paying jobs), when they never have before with tax cuts, or new investment money from repatriating off shore profits. Not without strong regulatory "incentives" to do so.

King Reagan at least brought FLEXIBILITY to tax policy, but we know what happened when Pappy Bush tried the same thing. Or when Obama wanted a very modest tax increase for the richest amongst us for an infrastructure package. So we will see what happens when the meat is added to the bare bones Trump proposal.

smoothy
Sep 30, 2017, 12:40 PM
Well giving free stuff to 47% of the population has achieved what exactly... besides creating a larger dependent class of people who aren't productive OR tax payers. Most of whom would probably starve to death if they were ever expected to actually support themselves.

talaniman
Sep 30, 2017, 01:03 PM
Actually that 47% includes the working poor, and their children, many with two jobs, or two people working minimum pay jobs who qualify for extra help. I know a married couple with a couple of kids just starting school who need food stamps, and rent subsidies who barely can afford gas to put in the raggedy a$$ beater they drive.

We need to be careful when we pigeon hole so large a part of the population into derogatory categories just make ourselves think we are better because they are so much worse off. Like Dufus did when he castigated Puerto Rico for being devastated by 2 category 5 hurricanes.

That's a deplorable mindset considering his 3 star general he sent to get things in order said he didn't have the man power or resource to deal with the situation. And these are fellow Americans who need help! What a disgust example of leadership.

tomder55
Oct 1, 2017, 01:20 AM
Mayor Gomez is calling out Trump . But Geraldo Rivera is on the ground and is questioning her accusations.

https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera


and of course herr Donald put his phone in his mouth again responding with ridiculous tweets .

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914087234869047296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2Fcorn er%2F452070%2Ftrump-falls-democrats-trap-puerto-rico

Trump sparring with a lower-ranking Hispanic woman (San Juan’s Mayor) and accusing Puerto Rican workers of laying about waiting for help just plays into every bad narrative about Trump.




As you know with the Houston example ;private initiative is on the ground and at work while the government fiddles with it's genitals planning a response. I don't blame the people of the island . They have been conditioned to rely on government services .

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-rico-relief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports

A long time ago the ultimatum should've been given to either become a state or an independent nation. A referendum with those 2 choices should've been on the ballot . Puerto Rico’s current troubles grow out of the island’s lack of autonomy in constructing its own economic policies. Puerto Rico’s relationship with the United States continues to be one of colonial-style dependency.
Their economy and the people have also been screwed by the arcane 1920s era Jones act. It should be voted out of existence instead of these grants of temporary reprieve . The net effect on places like Puerto Rico, Hawaii ,Alaska ,Guam etc is that the cost of living is higher than in mainland USA . Consumer items from the U.S. mainland cost twice as much in Puerto Rico as they do in other Caribbean islands.

Meanwhile if you are looking for an organization to donate to help the island's relief then I highly recommend Team Rubicon. The challenge is enormous .This isn't the Berlin air lift . You can't air drop running water and electricity . The ports were damaged and the roads from the ports impassable . It will take a short term and a long term response .In many ways this is worse than Katrina. You can't truck in supplies .

https://teamrubiconusa.org/hurricane-maria-update/

https://teamrubiconusa.org/story-of-team-rubicon/

paraclete
Oct 1, 2017, 04:58 AM
So the self-opiniated mouth has struck again, Yes it is not unreasonable that people who have their homes destroyed, who have little food and are facing a prospect of months of homelessness, should expect Trump to do more, 10,000 marines for 2 million people, not enough, but there is a bigger issue here, a race issue, these people are hispanic and not Trump voters, their island is already victim of the american dream, things were bad there before the hurricanes. You can bet the key state of Florida will get all the help it needs

Tom no matter how bad infrastructure is, the military has the ability to get the supplies, yes you can truck in electricity its called an aircraft carrier and it can act as a base untill airfields are restored, it can provide desalinated water, and the US has plenty of aircraft carriers and LCD. Instead of fighting imaginary wars with Kim they should be deployed. I know what the military can do, Small civilian teams can help but boots on the ground engineer teams is what is needed

tomder55
Oct 1, 2017, 01:34 PM
ridiculous assertion . Same weak slander they gave to GWBush . You think there are no minorities in Houston ? Look Puerto Rican Geraldo Rivera is there on the ground ;and he is not being critical of the Federal response. The mayor of San Juan is taking cheap shots for political reasons.

talaniman
Oct 1, 2017, 03:05 PM
Begging for help for her peeps is a cheap shot? Okay tell me why 20/30 thousand troops weren't deployed the minute the rain stopped? Or why a 3 star general said HE needs more help?

Put the politics and the pat aide and put Americans first. That would Make America Great Again like he promised.

paraclete
Oct 1, 2017, 03:53 PM
Put the politics and the pat aide and put Americans first. That would Make America Great Again like he promised.

Yes what makes a nation great is caring for your people and we are not talking about a Caribbean island here, this is just as much a part of the US as Houston, or Miami, and yes it is inconvenient that there have been three hurricanes to deal with

tomder55
Oct 1, 2017, 04:27 PM
Clete there is a minimal amt an aircraft carrier can do to bring supplies to a mostly mountainous island .Stop the hatred . The US government is doing what it can. I can't say the same for the idiot local leadership . Why did they not have generators and fuel on hand ;being that they are islands that constantly get hit by weather events ? Like I said ;they have been conditioned to rely on the liberal big nanny state for so long that they don't have a clue about how to take care of themselves.

paraclete
Oct 1, 2017, 07:40 PM
Clete there is a minimal amt an aircraft carrier can do to bring supplies to a mostly mountainous island .Stop the hatred . The US government is doing what it can. I can't say the same for the idiot local leadership . Why did they not have generators and fuel on hand ;being that they are islands that constantly get hit by weather events ? Like I said ;they have been conditioned to rely on the liberal big nanny state for so long that they don't have a clue about how to take care of themselves.

Ah the you should have been prepared for all eventualities or what is known as the boy scout excuse. You weren't prepared so you are an idiot excuse. How many generators do you provide for a population of millions? Where do you store the emergency fuel? Yes I have a generator in my garage, do you? But I would only have fuel for a few days anyway. Way I hear it Peurto Rico is a failed state within the USA, so little ability to prepare and use prescious resources, but then, oh, one of perfect knowledge like Trump, you know what needs to be done before it needs to be done and you don't send the aircraft carriers because after all the island is mountainous rather than seeing that they can help the people of San Juan. Who conditioned them to rely on the nanny state? Where has been the nation building to build their economy, you would rather invest in Mexico or China. There is an amazing disconnect in the thinking over there

talaniman
Oct 1, 2017, 08:02 PM
Ah the you should have been prepared for all eventualities or what is known as the boy scout excuse. You weren't prepared so you are an idiot excuse. How many generators do you provide for a population of millions? Where do you store the emergency fuel? Yes I have a generator in my garage, do you? But I would only have fuel for a few days anyway. Way I hear it Peurto Rico is a failed state within the USA, so little ability to prepare and use prescious resources, but then, oh, one of perfect knowledge like Trump, you know what needs to be done before it needs to be done and you don't send the aircraft carriers because after all the island is mountainous rather than seeing that they can help the people of San Juan. Who conditioned them to rely on the nanny state? Where has been the nation building to build their economy, you would rather invest in Mexico or China. There is an amazing disconnect in the thinking over there

Totally AGREE!

smoothy
Oct 2, 2017, 05:39 PM
Actually that 47% includes the working poor, and their children, many with two jobs, or two people working minimum pay jobs who qualify for extra help. I know a married couple with a couple of kids just starting school who need food stamps, and rent subsidies who barely can afford gas to put in the raggedy a$$ beater they drive.

We need to be careful when we pigeon hole so large a part of the population into derogatory categories just make ourselves think we are better because they are so much worse off. Like Dufus did when he castigated Puerto Rico for being devastated by 2 category 5 hurricanes.

That's a deplorable mindset considering his 3 star general he sent to get things in order said he didn't have the man power or resource to deal with the situation. And these are fellow Americans who need help! What a disgust example of leadership.

That 47% after tax deductions STILL don't pay any taxes.. making them leeches to society. Plain and simple. THEY are not making a contribution to anything. Yet then somehow feel they have a right to harp about how tax dollars they pay effectively NONE of are spent.

And on another note....the Crap in Puerto Rico is one retarded communist Mayor with an IQ lower than her shoe size. Lots of aid there already and more on the way..if the idiot Unions there weren't refusing to pick it up and deliver it from the port.

Wondergirl
Oct 2, 2017, 06:11 PM
That 47% after tax deductions STILL don't pay any taxes
"after tax deductions" -- please read what you typed. Read it slowly and carefully.

The working poor (as tal mentioned) pay taxes. I was a "working poor" for years as was my father before me. We paid taxes -- sales taxes, state and federal income taxes, property taxes, and whatever other taxes were required.

talaniman
Oct 2, 2017, 07:48 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/04/heres-why-puerto-ricos-broke.html

Broke And Barred From Bankruptcy, Puerto Rico Seeks Outside Cash : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2015/06/05/411710928/broke-and-barred-from-bankruptcy-puerto-rico-seeks-outside-cash)

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/01/business/dealbook/the-bonds-that-broke-puerto-rico.html

Do I really have to remind you of other parts of America that have gone through the same thing?

paraclete
Oct 2, 2017, 10:17 PM
Do I really have to remind of other parts of America that have gone through the same thing?

Well maybe you do Tal, because the folks in Puerto Rico maybe think two hurricanes is one more than most of you experienced, and they don't have the local resources to deal with it, they couldn't evacuate and they don't have the benefit of their neighbour states helping out. Why don't you remind them, like Trump did, that they are lazy ingrates?

talaniman
Oct 3, 2017, 04:19 AM
Trump travels to PR today and has the opportunity to tell the lazy ingrates to their face what he thinks of them. Maybe he can show them how to clear the roads and deliver food and fuel, and bring a few SAT phones so they can talk to each other.

paraclete
Oct 3, 2017, 04:59 AM
Maybe, that's a big maybe, but don't worry he is going to tell them what really lovely people they are

smoothy
Oct 3, 2017, 07:42 AM
"after tax deductions" -- please read what you typed. Read it slowly and carefully.

The working poor (as tal mentioned) pay taxes. I was a "working poor" for years as was my father before me. We paid taxes -- sales taxes, state and federal income taxes, property taxes, and whatever other taxes were required.
You don't "pay taxes" when you get most or even MORE back than you paid in after filing your returns. And since most of the major Freebies are Federal... they didn't pay a dime towards them.

And funny how after graduating College a one bedroom apartment cost almost as much as I cleared before any other expenses (food, student loan payment, etc), and barely got by with 2 other roommates in a 3br apartment those first few years, yet even with a CPA doing my taxes... never once did I get back even most or heaven forbid even MORE than I paid in. Guess that's that "White Privilege" we hear so much about.

tomder55
Oct 3, 2017, 08:42 AM
Who conditioned them to rely on the nanny state?

You already know the answer to that . The same group that left evacuation busses parked in the low lying areas of New Orleans during Katrina .

talaniman
Oct 3, 2017, 05:27 PM
Well the buffoon went to PR and handed out rolls of towel paper, praised the praisers, and informed them that they are blowing a BIG hole in the budget.

Next stop, Las Vegas who just broke the record for the biggest mass killings in our history. More hope and prayers, and on to the next headline.

Wondergirl
Oct 3, 2017, 05:29 PM
Well the buffoon went to PR and handed out rolls of towel paper and informed them that they are blowing a BIG hole in the budget.
And concluded with, "Have a good time!"

Why oh why didn't he also toss out DVDs of "West Side Story"?

paraclete
Oct 3, 2017, 06:47 PM
Well the buffoon went to PR and handed out rolls of towel paper, praised the praisers, and informed them that they are blowing a BIG hole in the budget.

Next stop, Las Vegas who just broke the record for the biggest mass killings in our history. More hope and prayers, and on to the next headline.

Yes he is really sympathetic to the cause, $50 million blows a really big hole in the budget, is that the budget for his golf tours?

Trump did no more than anyone could expect, he told the locals to drive trucks, like it is a skill you can get overnight, well, really you can with a really good instructor, wonder how many of those aren't driving trucks.

The gun problem isn't because of gun availability after all a deranged idiot only needed 23, and so the problem is the supply of deranged idiots, or so Trump thinks , but then he should know, being the Deranged Idiot in Chief

tomder55
Oct 4, 2017, 09:48 AM
Trump did no more than anyone could expect, he told the locals to drive trucks, like it is a skill you can get overnight, well, really you can with a really good instructor, wonder how many of those aren't driving trucks. As smoothy already pointed out ,there are plenty of drivers on the island .But like most of the island ;they play by union rules.

talaniman
Oct 4, 2017, 11:42 AM
Fake news posts blame Puerto Rico's truck drivers for refusing to ship relief supplies | PunditFact (http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/03/blog-posting/fake-news-posts-blame-puerto-ricos-truck-drivers-r/)

This is closer to reality.

Cut off after bridge collapsed, Puerto Ricans cross river with cable - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/americas/puerto-rico-san-lorenzo/index.html)

Wondergirl
Oct 4, 2017, 12:34 PM
Fake news posts blame Puerto Rico's truck drivers for refusing to ship relief supplies | PunditFact (http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/03/blog-posting/fake-news-posts-blame-puerto-ricos-truck-drivers-r/)

This is closer to reality.

Cut off after bridge collapsed, Puerto Ricans cross river with cable - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/americas/puerto-rico-san-lorenzo/index.html)
And downed trees and other debris lying across roads....

paraclete
Oct 4, 2017, 03:35 PM
As smoothy already pointed out ,there are plenty of drivers on the island .But like most of the island ;they play by union rules.











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