The House Judiciary Committee sent a letter on Thursday to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein requesting the appointment of a second special counsel .The letter posed some 14 different questions that the committee has asked at various points in the past but to this point remain unanswered related to the Clintoon Crime family and Evita's campaign ;the conduct of FBI Director James Comey ,and Att. Gen. Loretta Lynch in the investigations of the various illegal acts by Evita and her State Dept ;specifically the mishandling of classified information .They want to know more about the DNC's colluding with the Evita campaign to deny the Democrat nomination to Bernie Sanders. They also sought more information regarding the allegations that the Trump campaign had been surveilled by the emperor's regime , the “unmasking” of Trump campaign members and leaks of classified information to the media ;Comey's admitted leaks to the media ;and the FBI's reliance on the Steele dossier as a basis to continue it's investigation of Trump.

All the questions posed are unanswered despite the efforts of the various Congressional committees to obtain the information from the stonewalling of the emperor's regime's key players .

The letter cited Comey’s congressional testimony that Lynch pretty much ordered him to play down its Clinton probe.
Days after Lynch met with Bubba Clintoon, Comey announced the investigation was closed and he would not recommend charges be brought against Evita for her use of an unsecured private e-mail server ,and the illegal handling of classified information while she was Sec State .



We call on a newly appointed special counsel to investigate, consistent with appropriate regulations, the following questions, many of which were previously posed by this Committee and remain unanswered:


Then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch directing Mr. Comey to mislead the American people on the nature of the Clinton investigation;
The shadow cast over our system of justice concerning Secretary Clinton and her involvement in mishandling classified information;
FBI and DOJ’s investigative decisions related to former Secretary Clinton’s email investigation, including the propriety and consequence of immunity deals given to potential Clinton co-conspirators Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel and possibly others;
The apparent failure of DOJ to empanel a grand jury to investigate allegations of mishandling of classified information by Hillary Clinton and her associates;
The Department of State and its employees’ involvement in determining which communications of Secretary Clinton’s and her associates to turn over for public scrutiny;
WikiLeaks disclosures concerning the Clinton Foundation and its potentially unlawful international dealings;
Connections between the Clinton campaign, or the Clinton Foundation, and foreign entities, including those from Russia and Ukraine;
Mr. Comey’s knowledge of the purchase of Uranium One by the company Rosatom, whether the approval of the sale was connected to any donations made to the Clinton Foundation, and what role Secretary Clinton played in the approval of that sale that had national security ramifications;
Disclosures arising from unlawful access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) computer systems, including inappropriate collusion between the DNC and the Clinton campaign to undermine Senator Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign;
Post-election accusations by the President that he was wiretapped by the previous Administration, and whether Mr. Comey and Ms. Lynch had any knowledge of efforts made by any federal agency to unlawfully monitor communications of then-candidate Trump or his associates;
Selected leaks of classified information related to the unmasking of U.S. person identities incidentally collected upon by the intelligence community, including an assessment of whether anyone in the Obama Administration, including Mr. Comey, Ms. Lynch, Ms. Susan Rice, Ms. Samantha Power, or others, had any knowledge about the “unmasking” of individuals on then candidate-Trump’s campaign team, transition team, or both;
Admitted leaks by Mr. Comey to Columbia University law professor, Daniel Richman, regarding conversations between Mr. Comey and President Trump, how the leaked information was purposefully released to lead to the appointment of a special counsel, and whether any classified information was included in the now infamous “Comey memos”;
Mr. Comey’s and the FBI’s apparent reliance on “Fusion GPS” in its investigation of the Trump campaign, including the company’s creation of a “dossier” of information about Mr. Trump, that dossier’s commission and dissemination in the months before and after the 2016 election, whether the FBI paid anyone connected to the dossier, and the intelligence sources of Fusion GPS or any person or company working for Fusion GPS and its affiliates; and
Any and all potential leaks originated by Mr. Comey and provide to author Michael Schmidt dating back to 1993.




https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/072717_HJC-Letter-to-AG-DAG.pdf

Subpoena, everyone involved, put them under oath... and throw them in jail if and when they change stories. Scooter Libby went to jail for a single misquote during an investigation that ended with NO other crimes committed (The Valarie Plame based witch hunt where it came out it was her own husband who outed her).

Why should ANYONE involved in this be treated any differently.

Hello:

Couple things..

They LOST. Who gives a damn?

Only banana republics put their previous leaders on trial.. I have NO idea WHY the right wing wants to DEGRADE my beloved country so..

excon

We listened to the Democrats Blaming Bush for EVERYTHING.. including stuff that didn't even happen when he was in office for 8 long years.

We listened to YOU guys blame Obama for EVERYTHING and talk about him like a dog, and now you elected ANOTHER darn DUFUS you guys still ain't happy. Time to adjust your meds.

Good thing you couldn't figure out how to REPEAL Obamacare yet because you really NEED it more than ever. .

Obama actually DID the things he was accused of. Not made up unproven stuff like this Russian dead horse that you guys keep beating (decayed to a skeleton at this point).

Trump is Einstein compared to Obummer. What exactly was Barrack such a success at OUTSIDE the political spectrum anyway?

Politics takes being an accomplished LIAR to have a career in it...you have to actually be good at something to be a success in the real world.

Only banana republics put their previous leaders on trial..


Didn't realize there was a statute of limitations for misconduct while in office .

But many of the issues involve Evita's campaign and the DNC ;as well as the emperor's administrations illegal use of the intelligence agencies to do domestic spying .
I can't think of anything closer to a general warrant than what happened during the campaign . The Founding Fathers battled an 18th century version of the wholesale surveillance that the previous regime is accused of doing.("writs of assistance") It is the very reason why the 4th amendment was added to the Constitution. They used the flimsy premise of the fraudulent Trump dossier to obtain FISA warrants of Trump campaign staffers and possibly Trump himself .

Besides ;many of the questions that the Committee is asking is for things that happened after the election. Mueller's investigation in particular stinks of a modern day writ of assistance. He reminds me of Stalin’s henchman, Lavrentiy Beria, who said to Stalin, “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”

Silly repubics! Sinking in their own swamp but hollering about last years news. 3 and a half YEARS to go with THIS disaster.

Haaa ! and silly Dems have their Senate leader saying that the Dems are going to pick off Trump voters in the next cycle by running Trojan horse candidates like they did in 2008 ;and offering the latest version of unfunded promissory notes to those gullible rubes in the swing states . It is the Dems that are trying to pull off a 3rd world trick by staging a coup .

All the questions posed are unanswered despite the efforts of the various Congressional committees to obtain the information from the stonewalling of the emperor's regime's key players

Uh huh. Did it ever occur to anyone that these question HAVE been answered, just not the way Trump thinks they should be. But this is just Sessions trying to get back into Trump's good graces.

Don't get me wrong, I think they should investigate, and when there is nothing to be found AGAIN, the next time Trump says Crooked Hillary she can sue him for libel.

Several of those points are totally bogus. For example:
1) the first time I ever heard it called a "matter" was from Comey's testimony. I don't think it makes a bit of difference what it was called. Unless she asked him (like Trump did) to go easy, there is nothing there.
2) What shadow? She goofed, she admitted she goofed. Move on!
8) So far there has been nothing but timing linking those contributions. There has been ZERO evidence that Clinton tried to influence any of the EIGHT other agencies to agree to the deal.
10) These have been answered already
12) This was answered in Comey's testimony. He advised the committee that he had a friend pass ONE of his personal e-mails to the Times to protect himself. No "leak" and no classified info.

Talk about a fishing expedition and witch hunt! I also point out that the letter was signed by only Republican members and not even all of them!

Hillary IS crocked and can't sue ANYONE for saying so. The only reason there wasn't an investigation into Hillary and Obama administration was the Obama Administration AG's blocked such investigations from even happening... but THAT is different... because they weren't Republicans..

After All BenGhaziGate never happened...Election rigging by the Dems isn't Illegal for them to do...Handing thousands of Guns to help arm the Mexican Drug Cartels isn't illegal if you are a Democrat...and Mishandling Classified Documents isn't illegal if you are a Democrat.....

And if you are a Democrat..(Hillary) you can LIE to congress over and over with no repercussions because well Democrats are Special....while people like Scooter Libby went to jail for ONE misquote during a witch hunt investigation that turned up NO crime occurred. Because well...Laws don't apply to Democrats. But do for anyone else.

I will remind you that Clinton has not received so much as an indictment. So stating has a fact that she is crooked is libel.

And your obvious bias against democrats has you continuing to make statements that are paranoid and inane as well as untrue.

14. Any and all potential leaks originated by Mr. Comey and provide to author Michael Schmidt dating back to 1993.

This one is the funniest of all - why stop at 1993? Why not just go back to Mr. Comey's birth? You know, when he was born in Kenya?

tomder, you never give up, do you? These are beyond silly. I really thought you could do better than this.

I understand it gets harder and harder to distract from Trump as he gets more and more strange. Especially his promoting police brutality - not an easy one to get around, is it? Then there's his support of campus rape. But that fits right in with his publicly expressed attitude toward women.

There's more, lots more, but that will have to do for now.

Please get current and read the papers to see how Trump steps daily closer to the end of his weird presidency. Hillary is old news.

Repubics have yet to accept they have the state and federal governments under their legislative control and can govern as they please... for now at least, as 2018 looms large.

Will the pendulum swing back to the dems, while they are stuck on the last election?

Don't blame Tomder for this. It was the Republican members of the House Judiciary committee (and not all of them) who signed this silliness and put together that list.

Thanks Scott . Athos frequently calls my comments irrelevant or dated even if is is news that happened within a day that I mentioned it .

the first time I ever heard it called a "matter" was from Comey's testimony. I don't think it makes a bit of difference what it was called. Unless she asked him (like Trump did) to go easy, there is nothing there. The fact is that the Hillary investigation was being called an investigation until Lynch ordered him to change his language .


What shadow? She goofed, she admitted she goofed. Move on!Petraus Mishandled classified information and he was charged . Not only did she mishandle classified information ;she also set up a server against the law ,and destroyed evidence ;obstructed justice . That was much more than 'oooops .... My bad '.

So far there has been nothing but timing linking those contributions. There has been ZERO evidence that Clinton tried to influence any of the EIGHT other agencies to agree to the deal. Which is why that begged for a Congressional investigation to clear it up . But since they have been stonewalled in their pursuit ,they have recommended an independent investigation.


These have been answered already correct ;we already know that unmasking was done in violation of FISA law and 4th amendment protections .


This was answered in Comey's testimony. He advised the committee that he had a friend pass ONE of his personal e-mails to the Times to protect himself. No "leak" and no classified info. No we do not know the complete content of the leaked memo so we don't know if any classified information was leaked by Comey .


This one is the funniest of all - why stop at 1993? Why not just go back to Mr. Comey's birth? You know, when he was born in Kenya?

That was the silliest comment in this thread . Simply stated ;if Comey passed information to ex-U.S. attorney, later identified as Columbia University Prof. Daniel Richman, this time for the purpose of it being published in the Times then why should we believe that this was the first time Comey used him as a middle man to leak to the press ? Richman is mentioned in 151 results in a New York Times search dating back to 1993, with 11 of those articles also featuring Comey and six of them being authored by Michael S. Schmidt – who later wrote the “Comey memos” story which Comey told Congress he directed Richman to leak. That is why 1993 was the date chosen.

Why is this still being debated?

First, I'm a facts guy. I call the facts out no matter who gets them wrong.

And again, I don't recall it ever referred to as a matter. Nor does what it was called matter, it's the extent of the investigation that matters.

Sorry, I believe Comey when he said she was careless, not criminal.

Who has been stonewalling? I don't see proof of that. I cannot imagine that of 8 different agencies that had to approve the deal, if Clinton had tried to influence them it wouldn't have come out.

Do we? From what I recall, the process of unmasking is very stringent. I remember Rice denying any unmasking outside of procedures.

Seriously? Comey specifically stated that the ONE e-mail he passed to his friend was specifically composed to not include classified info.

Again, the letter coming from only half the committee and all Republicans is nothing more than a fishing expedition. It uses innuendo and false premises in a real witch hunt. It's got Trump's heavy handed thumbprint all over it. If Trump wants this investigation then just tell Sessions to start it.

Hillary has been investigated for how many years? Give it a rest! If she was indeed guilty of something the right wing noise machine would have more than just talking points, noise, and allegations, and conspiracy theories. Now Trump and his minions are just getting started on some serious vetting. He either survives the scrutiny, or he doesn't.

What is he afraid of? Repubs should govern RESPONSIBLY, like they said Obama and the dems did NOT. Is that too much to expect? Boy are they off to a great start, hope they get it together.

Blaming Bush for EVERYTHING.. including stuff that didn't even happen when he was in office for 8 long years.Hello smoothy:

BLAMING is NOT the same as PROSECUTING.. Dude!

excon

How about giving Trump a break... Hillary actually broke laws a lot of other people went to jail for. Some STILL in jail for. Why exactly do you guys feel SHE is special and above the laws that the rest of us are legally bound to follow?

But then.. why let FACTS get in the way of stopping the Liberal lynch mob.

excon With the retards Holder and Lynch out....we CAN finally go after what they were protecting and covering up. Then let the prosecutions start..

How about giving Trump a break...
A break from WHAT? He's his own worst enemy!

A break from WHAT? He's his own worst enemy!The incessant libel and slander for one.

The incessant libel and slander for one.
Because of what he says....? and that's all okay with you?

The incessant libel and slander for one.

Please prove to me that Trump has been libeled or slandered in any way. I've seen absolutely nothing said or written about Trump that qualifies as that.

Kelly vs. Scaramucci. Guess who won?

The Marines have landed and pushed that thug back to Long Island where he belongs.

Another chapter in the ongoing dysfunctional soap opera that is Trump's White House.

Stay tuned.

Scott ;Here is Comey's testimony in June to the Senate Intel Committee :

"At one point the attorney general directed me not to call it an 'investigation' but instead to call it a 'matter,' which confused me and concerned me," "That was one of the bricks in the load that lead me to conclude I have to step away from the (Justice) department if we are to close this case credibly."
"We had a criminal investigation open at the time, so that gave me a queasy feeling,"
Comey: Lynch asked for Clinton investigation to be called a 'matter' - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/politics/james-comey-loretta-lynch/index.html)

Kelly vs. Scaramucci. Guess who won?

The Marines have landed and pushed that thug back to Long Island where he belongs.

Another chapter in the ongoing dysfunctional soap opera that is Trump's White House.

Stay tuned.

The Mooch had to go . Trump thought he could run the WH like he does his businesses with an open door to all his staffers . But the WH cannot be run like a business. The President's time has got to be budgeted . I think Kelly will be an excellent Chief of Staff who will structure the WH operations well for as long as he lasts .

Scott ;Here is Comey's testimony in June to the Senate Intel Committee :

"At one point the attorney general directed me not to call it an 'investigation' but instead to call it a 'matter,' which confused me and concerned me," "That was one of the bricks in the load that lead me to conclude I have to step away from the (Justice) department if we are to close this case credibly."
"We had a criminal investigation open at the time, so that gave me a queasy feeling,"
Comey: Lynch asked for Clinton investigation to be called a 'matter' - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/politics/james-comey-loretta-lynch/index.html)

Not only is this a semantic difference, but the criminal investigation is CLOSED. That's what I didn't like about Comey was how he handled things during the election especially given there were no finding of criminal activity. Of course the need for political discreetness escaped him, since in my mind this should have not been made public until or unless there was a criminal finding.

Even now I would afford Trump the same courtesy if the Dufus would just stay out of the public with his defensive/offensive tweets, words, and actions. I mean he couldn't try any harder to look guilty of something if he robbed a bank in broad daylight.

Hmmm, maybe we should make sure he never has on second thought.

Please prove to me that Trump has been libeled or slandered in any way. I've seen absolutely nothing said or written about Trump that qualifies as that.

Every single thing the lunatic fringe on the left has accused him of since before the election. NONE of it has been proven yet. PROVE he has had any collusion with the Russians that the Democrats themselves haven't had MORE of.

But then... the left feels Trump is guilty until proven innocent... and Hillary and Obama aren't even guilty AFTER they admit to something.

Its Slander and Libel UNTIL you prove he did it... and he hasn't even been charged of it much less Convicted. Or does that simple fact not matter at all? There has been ZERO proof of ANYTHING presented yet, besides the "words" of someone with Ties to the Democrat party, or George Soros.

Simply because we are a nation of laws and no one is above the law. Otherwise we ARE a banana republic!

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Legally you are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty in a court of law... until then claiming someone did something is libel and slander depending on the method spread... as well as defamation.

Let the neighbor down the street accuse you of being a pedophile that molests kids in the neighborhood. Would you or would you NOT have recourse against them? Same deal. The sore losers on the left haven't proven ANY of it yet.

Picking ONE, Hillary admitted to breaking the law numerous times with FileGate...she can and should face trial for that and lies to Congress (7 proven instances so far)....same stuff Scooter Libby served time for (one single instance). The laws apply to Democrats too.

The FBI didn't refer charges to the Justice Department and closed the case. As in CASE CLOSED!

As to Trump and his sycophants, they are innocent until proven guilty too, so until the case is closed, we keep digging through their crap. We already know they have been lying through their teeth.

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Smoothy, just as I expected, you haven't offered one specific thing that proves he's been slandered or libeled. I'm not talking about individuals on social media mouthing off. I'm taking about responsible people speaking in public. I haven't seen anyone accusing Trump personally of collusion.

So I challenge you again to produce one example of libel or slander.

Tomder, I know what Comey said. Because he is an ethical and honest person (though not that competent) I can see why he might have felt "queasy" at Lynch's request. His admission actually reinforces the veracity of his other comments, specifically about Trump's actions. I just don't think the semantical difference amounts too much, especially since I don't recall seeing that term used at all.

The point is ;how much pressure was used by Lynch to stonewall and obstruct the investigation?You have to admit it was quite a coincidence that Comey laid out the case against Evita before deciding to not recommend charges against her days after Lynch met with Bubba on the airport tarmac. Lynch's comments about the substance of the meeting were laughably false, with her claiming that she and Bubba only talked about personal family things, like golf and grandkids.Even Dianne Feinstein said that Lynch's actions should be investigated for possible obstruction of justice and political collusion .She recommended that the Judiciary committee investigate this aspect of the Evita scandal .
Feinstein: Congress should probe whether Lynch provided cover for Clinton - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/11/feinstein-lynch-clinton-emails-239391)

That raises the larger question . What did the emperor know and when did he know it ? It was no coincidence that the emperor and Evita flew together in Air Force One for a campaign event in North Carolina the day before the Comey press conference clearing her . Would the emperor have allowed her to use the implied endorsement of the Presidency had he had any doubt about the possibility that Comey would recommend charges ? No WAY !

Tomder First, when refer to Obama and Clinton as Emperor and Evita, you turn me off. You want to post your opinion and facts to support them, fine. But things like that just show unreasoning bias. Second, Whatever did happen on that tarmac, unless Bill Clinton or Lynch admit anything other than what they have already said, further investigation will get nowhere. No one has shown that their being at the same place at the same time was planned.

If repubs and Trump would take a page from the Clintons and dems maybe they would actually accomplish something now that they have power, instead of digging rabbit holes to hide in. Seems logical that Trump would do more than throw red meat at the fringe base, and tweet against his own divided lawmakers, AND staff, to buffer himself against the dems onslaught which is nothing more than what the repubs did for 8 solid years against Obama.

Of course I'm enjoying watching the feckless repubs and the clumsy Dufus trying to govern against each other. Kudos to Mitch and Paul who obviously add to the chaos from the thrones of their own kingdoms, which the Orangeman has no clue how to unite because he is too busy talking loud and saying nothing. I have to admit while I enjoy the show, it's a very sad one to watch because it's a reflection on all of us that we elected this clown and his cohorts.

tal calling herr Donald "dufus " turns me off. As we all know Bush Jr was officially designated the title "dufus" .

Scott the timeline of the "chance meeting " and the events that transpired are worthy of further investigation IMO; and in the opinion of the majority of the Senate Intel Committee .

Obviously there is a new Dufus in town, and while repubs want more Hillary investigations, EVERYBODY on the Hill wants Mueller to keep investigating TRUMP and his sycophants.

Obviously there is a new Dufus in town, and while repubs want more Hillary investigations, EVERYBODY on the Hill wants Mueller to keep investigating TRUMP and his sycophants.
Maybe Trump wants to leave. “That White House is a real dump,” Trump told a group of members during a recent trip to his New Jersey golf course.

“That White House is a real dump,”

A Dump in a Dump

tal calling herr Donald "dufus " turns me off. As we all know Bush Jr was officially designated the title "dufus" ..Hello tom:

I was the one to proclaim Bush a dufus, and I RETRACT it..

excon

Hello tom:

I was the one to proclaim Bush a dufus, and I RETRACT it..

excon

Too late, ex, this is the next generation

Hello again,

In retirement, George W. Bush has acted like a statesman and a gentleman - things I didn't think he was while he was pres.

excon

Michelle Obama said she felt like she was in jail in the White House .She wasn't making an off the cuff bad joke when she said it .

This is herr Donald's m.o. .Before the election he said moving into the White House would be a 'down grade' . To someone who is used to living in Versailles like opulence ,it is not a surprise that he would think the White House is not up to his standards .

So far to my knowledge he hasn't held Bacchanalian parties there ,or rented out the Lincoln bedroom for campaign donations .

Context is everything....

Being first lady has “prisonlike elements,” [Michelle Obama] said, as the Weekly Standard reported. She made the comments seated next to former first lady Laura Bush.
Specifically, she said: Presidents’ wives “have probably the best job in the world because while our husbands … have to react and respond to crises on a minute-to-minute basis, we got to work on what we’re passionate about. I have just found it a very freeing and liberating opportunity … there are prisonlike elements, but it’s a really nice prison. You can’t complain. There are confining elements.”

Michelle Obama: White House like a 'prison' - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/2/michelle-obama-white-house-prison/)

yep context is everything . Yucking it up with golfing buddies should not be taken too seriously .

yep context is everything . Yucking it up with golfing buddies should not be taken too seriously .
We've noticed the man has no filter on his mouth.

We've noticed the man has no filter on his mouth.



indeed .His impulses will probably do him in unless General Kelly can muzzle him (not likely).

indeed .His impulses will probably do him in unless General Kelly can muzzle him (not likely).
They need to consult with a veteran preschool teacher to learn how to deal with him in the best way and to keep him from acting out.

Evidently the White House is more of a Dump than we knew .

White House set for renovations as Trump takes first vacation - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-set-renovations-trump-takes-vacation/story?id=49010672)
SCROTUS POTUS will take 7 weeks vacation while these renovations take place . (I bet his own crew could get it done in 2 weeks . )

they need to consult with a veteran preschool teacher to learn how to deal with him in the best way and to keep him from acting out.

LOLOLOL


Evidently the White House is more of a Dump than we knew .

White House set for renovations as Trump takes first vacation - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-set-renovations-trump-takes-vacation/story?id=49010672)
SCROTUS POTUS will take 7 weeks vacation while these renovations take place . (I bet his own crew could get it done in 2 weeks . )

Yeah, two weeks for his own crew that he helped to enter the country illegally - then he'd refuse to pay them because they are illegal aliens.

PS - Please see today's WAPO for how the orangeheaded one begged the pres of Mexico to lie for him re the Great Wall. Bigly pathetic !!

The first thing General Kelly has to do is purge the White House of all the Obots that still work there . I wasn't a Trump supporter ;so I never bought his nonsense about the wall anyway .But his concern is misdirected . None of the people who voted for him are going to change their vote in 2020 over the issue of Mexico paying for a wall that may or may not be built. Please tell me you didn't really take that stuff literally ?

Please tell me you didn't really take that stuff literally ?
I know Trump fans in Texas who did.

Will they be voting for Trump in 2020 if a wall doesn't get built ? Of course they will . It was a throw away red meat line for rallies ....sorta like "if you like your plan you can keep it " .

Please tell me you didn't really take that stuff literally ?

His core believed him absolutely. But it probably won't matter - Mueller has called a grand jury in DC. Things are heating up.

The way Trump protests his innocence every chance he gets, he sure looks guilty. We'll soon see.

His core believed him absolutely.
Nah they took him figuratively .It was the press that took him literally .


But it probably won't matter - Mueller has called a grand jury in DC.
He's going for the perjury trap ;probably with Trump Jr and Jared over that meeting in Trump tower with the Russian lawyer trap the Dems pulled . If he puts Trump's family in legal jeopardy then he can hold it over Trump .

The Russians set up Dufus Jr, not the dems.

Wrong ..........Natalia Veselnitskaya was cleared into the United States by the Lynch Justice Department under “extraordinary circumstances”;without a visa , just days before she met with Trump Jr.
She had previously had been turned down for a visa to enter the U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by Lynch (who denies she had anything to do with it ;but in is not in dispute that her Justice Dept issued the “extraordinary circumstances” waiver .


Veselnitskaya arranged the meeting under the pretext of giving Trump Jr information she had about Evita . But when the meeting began she only wanted to talk about the Magnitsky Act .So Trump ended the meeting .

What Mueller is hoping to do is catch one of the participants in a 'process crime' ,probably a slight contradiction in narratives like what happened to Scotter Libby ..

Veselnitskaya arranged the meeting under the pretext of giving Trump Jr information she had about Evita . But when the meeting began she only wanted to talk about the Magnitsky Act .So Trump ended the meeting .


You're missing the point. It is not WHAT they talked about, it is HOW EAGER Trump Jr was to get some dirt on Hillary which was what was promised to him and why he agreed to the meeting. No one, including Trump Jr or Sr, disputes this fact.

And to imply that Lynch arranged the meeting to entrap Junior is beyond absurd. That's right out of the Sean Hannity playbook.

it is HOW EAGER Trump Jr was to get some dirt on Hillary which was what was promised to him and why he agreed to the meeting. No one, including Trump Jr or Sr, disputes this fact.

Your right ;no one disputes that . Where is the crime ? Opposition research is the name of the game .1984 Ted Kennedy was willing to work with the KGB in his opposition to Reagan . 2005 the Dems wanted financial information on Michael Steele who was considering running for a vacant Senate seat in Maryland ,so Schmuck Schumer sent a couple of operatives to dumpster dive so to speak . They obtained Steele’s confidential credit report by using his Social Security number, which they had culled from court records ;a blatantly illegal act under the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act. The 2 staffers were suspended with pay for their punishment .

Face facts ;dirty tricks and opposition research are as American as apple pie. Go back to the contest between Jefferson and Adams and you'll find plenty of examples . Heck the Steele dossier was just another dirty trick

So it doesn't matter who you are, your goose is cooked

If Clinton can go through the impeachment process for lying about his sex life, Trump can get impeached for lying to everybody, about everything. Maybe the senate will save his presidency, after they have exposed him to the public. Have you seen his numbers? The most unpopular candidate is the most unpopular president ever... so far, and I doubt it gets better.

After 6 months repubs are starting to put him in his place, as well they should. This dude is off his frigging rocker. Only a looney could love him.


So it doesn't matter who you are, your goose is cooked

He's a DUCK, but you can cook those too!

Your right ;no one disputes that . Where is the crime ?


Isolated, there is no crime. Yet, it points to a willingness to collude with the Russians to undermine an American presidential election. It's part of a widespread pattern of Russian interference on Trump's behalf. Now we know that Trump Sr was instrumental in creating the excuse for junior when Senior initially denied any involvement. Why all the lying?

And why do you insist on excusing present behavior with some "news" from as far back as 1984 sourced, no doubt, from an alt-right website?

There is so much smoke coming from all the prevarication of Trump and his cronies that soon it will all burst into flame and Mueller will be right there waiting.

Special prosecutors are appointed after a crime ;not to fish to find a crime. The biggest problem in the past has been prosecutors digging and digging until they find a process crime instead of evidence of the underlying crime being committed .
Politicians seek dirt on other candidates ;the dirtier the better. That is what “opposition research” is all about.That is why I bring up history ;to show that it is not unusual for campaigns to go to great lengths to find mud .The Ukrainian government sought to assist Evita's campaign by supplying damaging information regarding Manafort to a Democratic operative. Embassy officials “worked very closely” with the operative to expose Manafort’s work for Viktor Yanukovych;And the DNC encouraged the operative to meet with the Ukrainian ambassador.Was that a crime ? No . But under the standards being applied to the Trump Jr meeting it is .

Even if there was "collusion ",collusion is not a federal crime except in antitrust law.We do not have a federal statute punishing efforts to influence an election, unless done by particular prohibited acts such as vote buying or illegal political contributions.

Legally it’s not enough for an associate of the president to work together with a Russian.The American would need to work with a Russian to commit a crime, to aid a Russian in committing a crime or to conceal a crime committed by a Russian. As an example ,the hacking of servers and giving the emails to WikiLeaks. Anyone who aided in the hacking of those servers committed a crime. But Mueller already knows no one in the Trump campaign was involved in that . Did Trump Jr solicit contributions from the Russian lawyer (as we know the Clintoons have done in the past ) ? That would've been a crime . But we know from all accounts that did not happen.
It could be crime if someone offered to act in an official capacity, by repealing a law or discontinuing sanctions against Russia, in exchange for something of value.By all accounts the meeting was abruptly ended when Veselnitskaya mentioned the Magnitsky Act. If there was a quid pro quo ;damaging information on Evita in exchange for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act ,then you have your crime . But we know that did not happen.

If anything ,Mueller should be looking at the role of the DNC in the hackings . What role did Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her IT team of Imran Awan and family have in the hacking of servers during the campaign ;or the release of emails to Wiki ?

But inspector Robert Javert Mueller is a Democrat poodle and a close crony of James Comey .He is obsessed with finding anything that he can pin on Trump.

Lots of assertions but we do have a crime, by Flynn, and that opens up the whole can of worms to verify and follow. That's where the investigation started if you remember that ensnared the Trump cohorts. Then there is Manafort and his ties to big RUSSIAN money, We will see where it leads won't we.

Funny how you never wonder how Manafort got involved in the Trump campaign at such a high level in the first place given his known history of Russian ties. I call those two lines of inquiry PROBABLE CAUSE to look deeper, wouldn't you? Sure digging for dirt on political opponents is standard, and not a crime, but working with adversarial nations is collusion, and trying to thwart an investigation into that collusion is OBSTRUCTION. Not being honest on FEDERAL documents is a crime, and we have PLENTY of PROBABLE CAUSE for that.

So while you dig into your allegations of democratic wrong doing, why ignore Trump wrong doing? Seems to me that the 30 year Clinton investigation was a witch hunt too, but nobody on your side acknowledges that. Now if you were saying dems are better criminal then I can go along with that, since repubs have noise, but no charges on dems after this long and MANY investigations into EVERYTHING Clinton, or we have better investigators, a notion I reject since it's bipartisan investigators digging into Trump.

The only fish that's important is the one you catch, and fairy tales are made about the one that got away.

Where is the crime ?Hello tom:

Obstruction of justice is the crime.. When he fired Comey, he did it to end the investigation... He said so on live TV.. What they were investigating isn't relevant. That they WERE investigating and Trump INTERFERED, is relevant.. It's textbook obstruction.

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This is how WHITE COLLAR crime is uncovered Tom. It's not like rich guys or big money wears a hoodie and hangs out on the corner, or runs in a bank hollering "stick 'em up!". Wouldn't you investigate a chronic liar after he does suspicious stuff? Naw! I guess you wouldn't because a rich guy with a team of lawyers can do NO WRONG in your book.

Hate to break it to you the President can fire the director of the FBI ,or any other executive branch employee for any reason. But I'm glad you've all admitted finally that there is no crime related to Russian "hacking ".

Flynn did not talk with Sergey Kislyak until Dec 29 ,almost 2 months after the election .If Flynn did anything illegal it was in his relationship with Turkey ;not Russia.

Manafort was hired to run the convention phase of the campaign .He worked for Trump from March until the end of August . That means he had nothing to do with the campaign after Trump was the nominee .

That makes Trump a real dufus if he didn't know his National Security Advisor/campaign worker worked for Turkey and was taking money illegally per his military regulations. Or that his campaign manager worked for the Ukraine government when they were hooked up with Russia, OR firing the guy investigating these two would NOT LOOK GOOD! Just like it doesn't look good that PENCE knew NOTHING when he ran his mouth in public.

Tom come on, being that dumb and stupid should be a crime! That's just the obvious stuff! If Trump worked as hard to repeal and replace with something GREAT as he does trying to stop this investigation we would all be happy but NOOOOOOOOOO, we get his lying tweets everyday, while he throws red meat to his base voters when he gets caught in them.

Give him a chance you say? Seriously? Tell that to repubs who have finally found the guts to corral this loose cannon.

But I'm glad you've all admitted finally that there is no crime related to Russian "hacking ".


Sorry, but the only admission was mine, none of the others, and mine was strictly re Junior's taking a meeting, nothing else.

I believe the actual laws state that AFTER A CRIME HAS BEEN DISCOVERED they convene a Special Prosecutor. As far as I know, after months of digging, there STILL is no identifiable crime!!

Therefore, this is nothing but a witch hunt.

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Are you guys that blind? The crime is Flynn, and Manafort, and their foreign connections and that ties the Trump campaign guys in by association. It didn't help that Trump wanted the FBI to back off Flynn, or firing Comey when he didn't, or bragging to the Russians he did it to stop the investigation. So you guys just keep repeating after Trump about witch hunts because OPINIONs from the peanut gallery don't matter.

All that matters is what comes of the investigation that started because of faulty paper work to the feds by a host of Trump sycophants to get security clearances and the lies about it. I guess the fact he was railing on Sessions to get him to quit, then wanted to move him from DOJ, to appoint another AG that would fire Mueller doesn't look suspicious enough for some folks, but even repubs are getting wise to the tricks so the kept the congress open so no recess appointments, and informed the Orange dude no AG appointments the rest of the year, but if you guys want to still believe their I nothing to see move along, and this is a witch hunt, then okay, your boy Dufus is a witch!

I can go with that!

I believe the actual laws state that AFTER A CRIME HAS BEEN DISCOVERED they convene a Special Prosecutor. As far as I know, after months of digging, there STILL is no identifiable crime!!

Therefore, this is nothing but a witch hunt.
- A grand jury is a legal body empowered to conduct official proceedings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_proceedings) and investigate potential criminal conduct (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime), and determine whether criminal charges should be brought. A grand jury may compel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpoena) the production of documents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(law)) and compel sworn testimony of witnesses to appear before it. A grand jury is separate from the courts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court), which do not preside over its functioning. (Wikipedia)

- A group of people chosen at random that sits on a regular basis to hear evidence brought by a prosecutor. The prosecutor presents evidence against a person that he or she thinks will justify an indictment (formal charges) and a trial. Grand juries, unlike petit juries, meet in secret, need not reach unanimous decisions, and do not decide on a person's guilt or innocence (they only decide whether the person should stand trial). (Nolo)

Grand jury bombshell rocks media, but calm down: This is what prosecutors do | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/04/grand-jury-bombshell-rocks-media-but-calm-down-this-is-what-prosecutors-do.html)

Please show me where I mentioned a Grand Jury in my earlier post. My comment was in regards to the laws surrounding the appointment of a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

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Welcome guy, and did you use the Reply with Quote button?

The right accuses the left of a witch hunt when it is Trumps own appointee Rosenstein, that appointed Mueller, who is a republican. Is this a lie, fake news, or just a stupid assertion by a Dufus?

Mueller was also interviewed by Trump for FBI director. Funny how he blames the dems for his problems and his followers and sympathizers just swallow his lies hook, line, and sinker.

Welcome guy, and did you use the Reply with Quote button?

The right accuses the left of a witch hunt when it is Trumps own appointee Rosenstein, that appointed Mueller, who is a republican. Is this a lie, fake news, or just a stupid assertion by a Dufus?

Mueller was also interviewed by Trump for FBI director. Funny how he blames the dems for his problems and his followers and sympathizers just swallow his lies hook, line, and sinker.

Well Tal Dump is about to tell you in REAL NEWS which is his version of the news. I'm wondering how this differs from twitter, oh, I'm all a twitter wondering what the great man thinks is the truth

https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-walshs-washington/articles/2017-08-08/trump-tv-takes-to-the-airwaves

I've been following that story awhile Clete, and Sinclair Broadcasting Group (http://sbgi.net/) is buying up a bunch of local TV affiliates, and Trump has cut a deal to be a part of it with the sole purpose of spreading the Trump Gospel. Got to see how this plays out, but when a GOVERNMENT has that kind of control of the airwaves, no telling how they will use it. For sure it won't be fair, or balanced, but he had to replace Fox News as his mouthpiece amid all the scandals, which have grown bigger the last few weeks.

In the US broadcasters are limited to what share of the network markets they can own on the national level, however there is no limits on the local market share levels. A loophole Trump and Sinclair are exploiting, UNLESS the congress closes that loophole QUICK!

Another development of importance is this,

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-10/russia-caves-in-on-bitcoin-to-open-new-front-on-money-laundering

Makes all the sanctions pretty useless doesn't it? But that goes back a ways,

https://www.cnbc.com/2014/12/17/russians-move-into-bitcoin-as-ruble-tanks.html

oh snap ;the days of progressives dominating the airwaves are over ... time to regulate the competition out of business. Bring back the "fairness doctrine" .You call a bunch of people airing in a single network of broadcasters
"government having control of the airwaves " when the progressives dominate the major networks AND half (if not more ) of cable broadcasts ??????? come on man !


bitcoin is the currency of laundering . I don't know what nationalities will use to defend their currencies . But they should think long and hard about it ;and how international crooks like George Soros can manipulate that currency .

bitcoin is the currency of laundering . I don't know what nationalities will use to defend their currencies . But they should think long and hard about it ;and how international crooks like George Soros can manipulate that currency .

Tom, you want to talk about manipulation, talk about Trump, the manipulator in chief. Wants his own news service so he can manipulate the news. That means you won't hear anything unfavourable to him on his network. We should christen him Gobbles from now on. The fourth Reich takes over the fourth estate, another round of hail to the chief

We should christen him Gobbles from now on. The fourth Reich takes over the fourth estate, another round of hail to the chief


That's DOCTOR JOSEPH GOEBBLES to all here. HEIL, TRUMP !!!!!

Seems the two Dufuses are getting ready to roast each other. Kim and Donald. Can't they just get a room?

Trump's 'fire and fury' threat to North Korea sparks new fears of war - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-north-korea-warning-241409)

Bring popcorn and plenty of MARSHMELLOWS.

oh snap ;the days of progressives dominating the airwaves are over ...

Maybe it seems that way in New York, but trust me buddy, that's NOT TRUE in Texas, not my part for sure.


time to regulate the competition out of business.

Everybody is under the same rules despite right wing whining.


Bring back the "fairness doctrine" .

Fairness Doctrine - RationalWiki (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine)


...This has caused its reinstatement to become a bogeyman (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:Liberal_boogeyman) of the right, with conservative radio hosts constantly claiming that Democrats (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Democrats) are about to reinstate it, without any single Democrat in power having proposed a single piece of legislation to do any such thing....


You call a bunch of people airing in a single network of broadcasters
"government having control of the airwaves " when the progressives dominate the major networks AND half (if not more ) of cable broadcasts ??????? come on man !

No, I call a bunch of people who are Trump, and his supporters and EMPLOYEES past and present government taking control of the airways with their counter to fake news, defined as anything bad about TRUMP. Especially when the current FCC secretary allows a conglomerate like Sinclair to buy up local markets and install it's pro-dufus programming.

Trump launches "real" Trump TV news with Kayleigh McEnany - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-launches-real-trump-tv-news-with-kayleigh-mcenany/)


bitcoin is the currency of laundering . I don't know what nationalities will use to defend their currencies . But they should think long and hard about it ;and how international crooks like George Soros can manipulate that currency .

It's also the currency of mail order hard core, designer drugs. I am sure there are some republican international crooks in on the manipulation too.

You guys are silly . There is no way that a single network could completely dominate the news(unless laws like the "fairness doctrine " are reinstated ) . The days of your big 3 liberal networks are history . That is the closest we ever came to one pov dominating the media .Tal could Sinclair possibly control as much of the media as CBS(owned by Viacom) ,NBC (owned by GE ) and ,ABC (owned by Disney ) ? That troika is as close to a cartel as you can get

I can't blame Trumphead for starting his own network since fair and balanced Fake.. I mean Fox News.has gotten such a lousy name. You still got Breitbart, and Red State though.

Stop blaming progressives for the candidates you guys keep electing president. >SIGH< Not our fault conservatives want to run things all by themselves which is a pretty dumb notion given the WHOLE country. You got Pence so ain't things looking up?

Stop blaming progressives for the candidates you guys keep electing president. >SIGH< Not our fault conservatives want to run things all by themselves which is a pretty dumb notion given the WHOLE country. You got Pence so ain't things looking up?

On day you guys are gunna understand consensus, you just about got congress down pat after two hundred years