Hello:

And, they DID it (https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2016/12/09/secret-cia-assessment-says-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-win/) with the right wing's help. WHEN did right wingers fall in LOVE with Russia?? I missed it.. WE'RE going down the tubes, America.. We gotta ACT, and ACT NOW!!!!!

excon

Yet another false flag by the left... ZERO proof it ever happened... while there IS lots of proof from the DNC and Hillary's own emails that the DNC was actively cheating thanks to Wikileaks.

Apparently the DNC's cheating efforts have been so massive they can't believe someone else actually still won.

Let's see, the CIA - oh yeah; the guys that said Saddam had WMDs, then said he never had any right after the 101st captured them.

You don't get out of your bubble much do you Smoothy? The question isn't who won any longer, but who supplied Wikileaks with secret info? Of course I figured you would never wonder why the RNC was never hacked, or more accurately why any information was ever released like they did the DNC?

The bad part would be not to look into this a lot deeper, and dismiss it as partisan politics. You would be the first one screaming at the moon if the shoe was on the other foot! You do know which shoe to put on the right foot don't you?

Hello cats:

The people who ran the agencies back then are NOT the same people running them now.. Do you NOT know that?? Citing how it USED to be WAYYYYY back in ancient history, DOESN'T change what's happening today..

But, I get that you just don't wanna engage. Is that because you don't grasp the issues, or you'd rather be a smartass?

excon

Let's see, the CIA - oh yeah; the guys that said Saddam had WMDs, then said he never had any right after the 101st captured them.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2016/12/09/russians-hacked-gop-but-hid-it-u-s-intelligence-agencies-say/


In briefings to the White House and Congress, intelligence officials, including those from the CIA and the National Security Agency, have identified individual Russian officials they believe were responsible. But none have been publicly penalized

There are 17 different intelligience agencies in the US government

17 Agencies of the US Intelligence Community - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/17-agencies-of-the-us-intelligence-community-2013-5)

Let see now . Evita ignored it while Russia invaded it's neighbors . She sold them 25% of the US uranium supply . So they rigged the election against her ?

Russia has been interfering in western elections since I was a kid . The CIA just woke up to that reality now ? I guess they missed it when Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged the Democrat primaries.


Here is a reality check . Evita lost the election when the emperor tried to end oil jobs ,and Bernie said he'd shut down trucker jobs ,and Evita said she'd shut down coal jobs and on and on...... If she was so concerned about winning then why did she stop showing up in rust belt states ? Why did she not show up on campus like the emperor did in 2 campaigns ?

Yes ,the Russians rigged the election so Trump could appoint all those hardline Generals to national security positions . I get it .

Then again ;Trump just nominated Rex Tillerson ,CEO of Exxon Mobile for Sec State ??????????? Trump says that Tillerson has done a lot of business in Russia.....hmmm .

Hey ;remember when you all mocked Romney for calling Russia the greatest strategic threat to the US ? I remember .

You don't get out of your bubble much do you Smoothy? The question isn't who won any longer, but who supplied Wikileaks with secret info? Of course I figured you would never wonder why the RNC was never hacked, or more accurately why any information was ever released like they did the DNC?

The bad part would be not to look into this a lot deeper, and dismiss it as partisan politics. You would be the first one screaming at the moon if the shoe was on the other foot! You do know which shoe to put on the right foot don't you?

Tal, I get out of my bubble... its already known who hacked those accounts and handed that over to Wikileaks... it wasn't the Russians like the Dems WERE claiming the last couple months, it wasn't the CIA like they are trying to claim now... it was American Hackers who admitted to it... doesn't take too much digging to get that info Tal. I've known that for over a month. And I know a lot of people knew it before me.

Give me a link to verify your assertions that can objectively hold more credibility than 17 agencies of the US government.

If you can't lift the hammer, I will understand!

Give me a link to verify your assertions that can objectively hold more credibility than 17 agencies of the US government.

If you can't lift the hammer, I will understand!

How about giving me some proof it was that was NOT supplied by the same fake news sources that were campaigning for Hillary and Obama before her... and bashing Trump.

Because NO source that was Pro-Hillary and anti-Trump is credible. Their Bias is clear and indisputable.

And 17 agencies of the Federal government made this claim? really now...I've Dealt with every Agency in this government for over 30 years and I know which ones do exactly what...if 17 are making this claim THAT alone should prove 16 of them should be closed because of overlap and replication because only 4 even remotely have that capability and three of those are allowed to operate within the US borders under the law..all 4 do operate outside of its borders.

Do that and I will present mine.

Hello again,

Lemme see, Manafort was seen back at Trump Tower. He's back in business. He's a VERY good friend of the Russians. Rex Tillerson, our new Secretary of State, is VERY good friends with the Russians. He wants to make MONEY with them.. 17 intelligence agencies SAID the Russians hacked the Democrats computer, but Trump said it was some fat kid. All this while Trump, himself, is having a public bromance with Putin..

Looks to me like Trump is a REAL LIFE Manchurian Candidate..

excon

... its already known who hacked those accounts and handed that over to Wikileaks...

But, I'm NOT gonna tell ya why it's known, and you can't make me.. Hello, smoothy:

Are you in 4th grade??

excon

Hello, smoothy:

Are you in 4th grade??

excon

Are you?

I haven't seen any proof from an impartial source that it WAS the Russians yet... so why should I be bothered to prove it was American Hackers which was NOT a secret as THAT was in the news last month. Just not on CNN.

Gotta give Trump credit .All those small business startups like Goldman Sachs and Exxon Mobil will finally have a say in the government .



just got an update from the Trump transition team . They are saying there will not be an announcement about Sec State until next week. This could all be a trial balloon ...or some more fake news .

I haven't seen any proof from an impartial source
What do you consider an impartial news source?

Spasiba

Were any of the Podesta emails proven false or fabricated ? Nope . All the Russian hacking revealed was the truth about Evita ,the DNC, and MSM collusion and corruption.

Very helpful those Russians, no doubt aided by a certain ex-pat resident in Russia

Hello again, tom:

What?? You don't think Republicans have embarrassing truths??? Why weren't any of them revealed?? It's cause the fix was in..

excon

Ex the whole campaign was one truth after another revealed about Trump .Some of them were very disturbing and disgusting . That was the MSM doing their job.

What you should ask is why was it that the only embarrassing truths revealed about the Dem campaign occurred through hacked leaks ?

Tom I thought the whole campaign was one lie revealed after another but then you are closer to the action than I

again there is a disconnect between our intelligence and investigative agencies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

This "Russian connections " is going to be the Dem meme equivalent of "Bush stole the election" . They refuse to look in the mirror and admit that they lost because working class American turned their backs on a party that increasingly turns their backs on them in favor of wacko environmentalism and over regulation .Since we are floating Manchurian Candidate conspiracy theories ;how about a few pages of '7 Days in May' .This soft coup d'état attempt could just as easily be a coup by the intel agencies and the emperor to influence the outcome of the electoral college vote to install an administration that will go along with the emperor's plans to wage a cold or hot war against Moscow .

I wouldn't worry about what the dems do, since they are way out of power at every level, it's repubs who have the burden to deliver now.

Trump made promises and he better keep them in a big way and quickly, or face the wrath of his own making, and to be fair, no doubt repubs in congress will TRY to push their own very conservative agenda, but again with all the power, repubs better deliver if they intend to KEEP that power.

The pendulum can swing left as fast as it swung to the right, and we have seen that happen when people get angry they are screwed with or left out of the pie. My advice for Trump AND the congress is they better appease those white blue collar voters who got 'em there PDQ. Let's see how repubs manage that!

PLACE YOUR BETS FOLKS!!

Hello again,

To put a period on what Tal said, I'm not living under the illusion that ANYTHING will be reversed, and I'm NOT sniveling. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I have to be quiet. In fact, it's EASIER to be on the OFFENSE rather than DEFENSE..

Watch this space.

excon

The pendulum can swing left as fast as it swung to the right, yep ;saw it in 2006-2008 .

Don't worry, kids. The new Ministry of Truth (It won't be called that) will take care of them Russkies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_Foreign_Propaganda_and_Disinformation_A ct

What I find interesting is that the Trump team seems to be circling the wagons. I've seen several quotes from the team denying the CIA report's conclusions. But I don't believe that any have seen the report since the CIA has only given a broad overview to a few Senators. When Comey first revealed the existence of the Weiner e-mails, Hillary's reaction was to ask they all be reviewed and investigated. She stated she didn't believe their review would change anything. So why isn't the Trump team doing the same thing? If the CIA report is correct it will not reverse the election. But is should affect US-Russia relations, And if a foreign government was interfering with an US election then it should affect those relations.

The only reason this could affect the results of the election is if it was found that members of the Trump team were aware of it. In that case, charges of treason may be applicable.

Scott , agree.
Trump should sign on to the joint investigation that McCain and Schumer have proposed. Maybe if he was reading or attending the daily intel briefings he'd get some insight .
Another thing that should be looked at is the contradictory conclusions that the CIA and FBI came up with.

The big coup is that everyone is arguing about Russian influence and the CIA is once aging discredited

Maybe if he was reading or attending the daily intel briefings he'd get some insight .

I read an interview where he explained why he was skipping the daily briefings and it did make sense. He said that the briefings were very repetitive and that he didn't need to go over the same stuff every day. He said if anything changed or was important they could get to him at a moment's notice. If what he said about the briefings is accurate, I can understand his point. He also said that Pence was attending the dailies as a backup.

He also said he felt he was too smart to be have to go through this. In my opinion its just the opposite, that his brain can only handle so much so he doesn't want to burden it with information overload.

Scott , agree.
Trump should sign on to the joint investigation that McCain and Schumer have proposed. Maybe if he was reading or attending the daily intel briefings he'd get some insight .
Another thing that should be looked at is the contradictory conclusions that the CIA and FBI came up with.

The only contradiction between the CIA and FBI is the motives for the hacking, but they both agree on who did it.

Funny how the Dems who have been arguing HOW many years that Saddam never had the WMD the CIA claimed he had... (which ultimately we proved he did have), suddenly decide to do a 180 and absolutely believe this so called claim Russia did it ( and I seriously doubt the validity from any of the talking heads who claim this because they also blindly supported Hillary despite even her own admission of guilt).

And I haven't seen where the FBI actually agrees with the source. But there is no doubt that people driving this in both of those agencies are Obama appointees who have a vested interest in keeping their own jobs beyond next month... even if such claims are nothing more than a "Hail Marry pass" given they don't have a snowballs chance in hell of being reappointed.

his brain can only handle so much so he doesn't want to burden it with information overload.
I suspect his problem is one of focus. His attention is all over the map.

I wouldn't worry about what the dems do, since they are way out of power at every level, it's repubs who have the burden to deliver now.

Trump made promises and he better keep them in a big way and quickly, or face the wrath of his own making, and to be fair, no doubt repubs in congress will TRY to push their own very conservative agenda, but again with all the power, repubs better deliver if they intend to KEEP that power.

The pendulum can swing left as fast as it swung to the right, and we have seen that happen when people get angry they are screwed with or left out of the pie. My advice for Trump AND the congress is they better appease those white blue collar voters who got 'em there PDQ. Let's see how repubs manage that!

PLACE YOUR BETS FOLKS!!

And yet its OWEbama who brought more big brother Government Overlording and micromanagement from the government via excessive overbearing regulations than ANY Previous Republican Administration.And the Pendulum has already swung as far left as it can possibly go it has nowhere left to go but back where it should have always been. The Democrat party has been the party for ever Bigger government for decades now...not smaller government.

George Orwells 1984 is knocking on the door....and has the Democrat party to thank for that.

What do you consider an impartial news source?

What I consider is an impartial news source is one that doesn't actively campaign on behalf of a certain candidate by ignoring negative stories while making up ones for the other. And worse.. conspire with one party to rig "Debates" by feeding one side the questions in advance and having that same side write other questions. Basically if they push their opinions devoid of facts backing them... they aren't impartial.

We are both old enough to remember when that might have actually existed ( I say MIGHT because it was long before I learned from first hand experience what is reported is someones opinion of what happened, not someone presenting the facts about what happened). But its been a long long time since it ended if in fact it ever did exist.

What I consider is an impartial news source is one that doesn't actively campaign on behalf of a certain candidate by ignoring negative stories while making up ones for the other.
And names of such are....?

What I consider is an impartial news source is one that doesn't actively campaign on behalf of a certain candidate Hello again, smoothy:

Oh, like infowars.com.

Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha.

excon

What I consider is an impartial news source is one that doesn't actively campaign on behalf of a certain candidate

Don't you think such a site exists? All news outlets are biased one way or another with most biased to the left

Don't you think such a site exists? All news outlets are biased one way or another with most biased to the left

Real Clear Politics is a pretty impartial aggregator.
RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Video and Polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/)

Mostly you need to do your own balancing. Huffpo and Drudge often have the same stories from different angles. Another good pairing is Politico and Wall Street Journal.

Cats ;agree ,especially with RCP .

The only contradiction between the CIA and FBI is the motives for the hacking, but they both agree on who did it.

Not only do the FBI and the CIA differ . But so does James Clapper ; the DNI ,and the man in charge of all the intel agencies. Podesta admits that the reason that someone was able to hack his emails was because he lost his phone.
I'll ask again.....which of the Wiki releases proved to be inaccurate ?

I think it would be fun to go around the rust belt states and ask the people there if they think Ruskies influenced their choice .

If there is a concern about hacking ;it is about the reported cases where government workers had their personal information hacked from government sites . There is where the nations vulnerability lies ;not in emails of the DNC that showed that they rigged the primaries to gain Evita the nomination. If there is a concern about hacking ,it is in the fact that the Chinese were able to duplicate the stealth technology of the F-35 .

Funny how Reagan called the USSR the "Evil Empire" and now Trump thinks Putin is America's favorite dictator.

I'll ask again.....which of the Wiki releases proved to be inaccurate ?


Whatever your perspective on the wiki leaks, it's politically disgusting repubs never hollered about where the stuff came from until after the election, even though they knew that the Russians were at the bottom of it.


I think it would be fun to go around the rust belt states and ask the people there if they think Ruskies influenced their choice .

Doesn't matter why voters voted the way they did. All that matters is Russians hacking. Investigate and deal with facts and not partisan political BS!

Hello again,

Trump, and his cadre, are painting Tillerson's relationship with Putin as incidental. They're painting Manafort's relationship with Russia as incidental.. They're painting Trump's BROMANCE with Putin as incidental.

Contrary to what 17 American intelligence agencies said, they're DENYING the Russian hack. IMHO, the reason Trump WON'T release his tax returns, is because they'll show how much he owes to Russian banks.

For a country who is at ODDS with Russia, there's just TOO many Russian CO-INCIDENTS.

excon

Trump WON'T release his tax returns, is because they'll show how much he owes to Russian banks.

Another conspiracy theory EX or can we think of it as fake news

Hello clete:

I think I used the letters, IMHO... In other words, it's NOT news. It's my opinion..

excon

I got a conspiracy theory for you . It wasn't the Ruskies ; it was Fancy Bear ,Cozy Bear ,Gucifer 2.0 and the Shadow Brokers .


I'm much more concerned with the NSA system hacks of the last few months that got hardly any coverage ,than DNC emails getting hacked from the cell phone Podesta lost .All this stuff will go away when the Electoral College votes and Congress certifies the results. Then for the next 4 years we can hear the whiners cry "Trump stole the election ! "

And the libs will love T Rex . He got us gay scout leaders when he ran the BoyScouts . He has spoken in favor of Common Core ;believes in AWG ,favors TPP etc. He will represent the NY limosine liberal we elected well.

Hello clete:

I think I used the letters, IMHO... In other words, it's NOT news. It's my opinion..

excon

I'm sorry Ex I didn't see that buried in your comments. I don't speak acronym and that is because SMS is more of nuaince than a tool


I got a conspiracy theory for you .

I have one for you too, it wasn't the Russians per se, it was Snowden

no it really was Fancy Bear ,Cozy Bear ,Gucifer 2.0 and the Shadow Brokers .Look it up.

I'll give you that one Tom as conspiracy theories go, it's good

Hello again:

Lemme suggest a few things that'll HAPPEN, on the ground, under a Trump/Putin (I mean Pence) presidency..

Putin will CONSOLIDATE his hold on the Ukraine. He'll MOVE on the Baltics. From there, he'll threaten Europe - maybe even invade. All the while Tillerson and Trump will WRECK the Arctic drilling for oil.. In KGB terms, Trump has been compromised. He's Putin's useful idiot.

Those are the reasons why freedom loving people the world over need to STOP this from happening.

excon

Hello again:

Lemme suggest a few things that'll HAPPEN, on the ground, under a Trump/Putin (I mean Pence) presidency..

Putin will CONSOLIDATE his hold on the Ukraine. He'll MOVE on the Baltics. From there, he'll threaten Europe - maybe even invade. All the while Tillerson and Trump will WRECK the Arctic drilling for oil.. In KGB terms, Trump has been compromised. He's Putin's useful idiot.

Those are the reasons why freedom loving people the world over need to STOP this from happening.

excon

Frankly Ex I'm not concerned if the Ukraine votes to stay in the Russian camp. The US thinks it has had a successful coup in Kiev but there is very long history there and it might be better if the US consolidated the Polish border. Putin doesn't want a war with the US and NATO, Russia can't afford it. Putin knows his soviet era Air Force and Navy aren't in the game, his nuclear capibilty is strong but they won't use that in a preemptive strike, Putin isn't stupid. Russia needs its market in Europe, take that away and Russia is bankrupt but the US needs to stop pushing Russia

Dump isn't stupid either, he sees advantage in normalising relations with Russia, a little leverage on China. If Dump is going to fight with anyone it is the Chinese, he doesn't understand China. This is about the long game not the short game of a Dump presidency

You can see how the Chinese ignored BO and went ahead with their forts in the South China Sea. The long game. they will still be there in a hundred years, it is just another wall. The Chinese think in terms of walls, while the americans think of projecting power with gunboats

xxxxxx

Let me suggest something . The Congressional Intel Committee wanted closed door hearings with the CIA so they could detail the evidence they have that Russia hacked and tried to influence the election. The CIA turned them down and refused to cooperate with the Congressional investigation That is a fact ;not a conspiracy theory . If the emperor wants bipartisan investigations on the issue he should compel the CIA to cooperate . Meanwhile Podesta is asking the CIA to brief electors . Talk about politicizing intelligence !!!

But let's assume that the Russians did it . Why would they ? Did the emperor stop them from invading Ukraine ? Did the emperor enforce his red line ? Did Hillary not sell them 20% of the US uranium supply ? Putin ate Evita's lunch for her whole term starting with the ridiculous reset button.
If they did it then maybe Vladay got a little miffed when Hillary accused him of rigging the Russian Duma elections . Or maybe they think that the US meddled in the Ukraine elections . Russian soldiers have been fighting that battle since. Does the US try to influence foreign elections ?We know for a fact it has been done in the past . Did the Obama administration try to influence foreign elections ? Let's see what Bibi Netanyahu has to say about that . Or just read this bipartisan Congressional report and decide for yourself.

https://www.scribd.com/doc.../318115226/OneVoice-Report-7-12

Tom it has got to the stage where I don't believe any of it.. either this is a very successful disinformation campaign or it is total desparation, but what we are seeing is the US being on the receiving end for a change and there are people running hither, thither and yon. Tell me Tom, what about a revolution, must be getting close to the trigger points?

Michael Moore and the usual suspects are planning massive demonstrations ,and there may be some window smashing .But this is not even close to the revolution boiling point.

Maybe some of these folks will do some introspection after their temper tantrums. Then they'll look for the real reason the working class people turned against them.

Then they'll look for the real reason the working class people turned against them.
And that is?

Then they'll look for the real reason the working class people turned against them.

Tom the sad part is that for all his rhetoric Dump is going to give them a bowl of more of the same and call it chicken broth. He has taken on board the people who have exported the jobs, the people who are responsible for fossil fuels, the military. And Where are the working class? What can he really do? Lower taxes? That advantages his wealthy friends more than it does the working class. Carry on a trade war with China? That is in noone's interest. Close the border? Build a pipeline? You claim yours is a representative republic, why then aren't the working class represented in the cabinet? The truth is you are governed by a cabal.

travel the land of the deplorables like Salena Zito did this election cycle (one of the few reporters in the country that actually did their job) and speak to the people from the land that Evita and Madame Mimi only see from the windows of their personal or chartered jets . While Trump promised to bring jobs ,Bolshevik Bernie promised to shut down the trucking industry ;Evita promise to shut down the coal industry ;and the Emperor promised to shut down almost all the energy generating industries .

I started reading her columns early in the election and warned my fellow conservatives that Trump could pull this off. Here is a sample of her prescient reporting :




If you drive anywhere in Pennsylvania, from the turnpike to the old U.S. routes to the dirt roads connecting small towns like Hooversville with “bigger” small towns like Somerset, you might conclude that Donald Trump is ahead in this state by double digits.




Large signs, small signs, homemade signs, signs that wrap around barns, signs that go from one end of a fence to another, all dot the landscape with such frequency that, if you were playing the old-fashioned road-trip game of counting cows, you would hit 100 in just one small town like this one.
In Ruffsdale, I am pretty sure I saw more than 100 Trump signs.
It's as if people here have not turned on the television to hear pundits drone on and on about how badly Trump is losing in Pennsylvania.
It's not just visual: In interview after interview in all corners of the state, I've found that Trump's support across the ideological spectrum remains strong. Democrats, Republicans, independents, people who have not voted in presidential elections for years — they have not wavered in their support.
Two components of these voters' answers and profiles remain consistent: They are middle-class, and they do not live in a big city. They are suburban to rural and are not poor — an element I found fascinating, until a Gallup survey last week confirmed that what I've gathered in interviews is more than just freakishly anecdotal.
The Gallup analysis, based on 87,000 interviews over the past year, shows that while economic anxiety and Trump's appeal are intertwined, his supporters for the most part do not make less than average Americans (not those in New York City or Washington, perhaps, but their Main Street peers) and are less likely to be unemployed.
The study backs up what many of my interviews across the state found — that these people are more concerned about their children and grandchildren.
While Trump supporters here are overwhelmingly white, their support has little to do with race (yes, you'll always find one or two who make race the issue) but has a lot to do with a perceived loss of power.
Not power in the way that Washington or Wall Street board rooms view power, but power in the sense that these people see a diminishing respect for them and their ways of life, their work ethic, their tendency to not be mobile (many live in the same eight square miles that their father's father's father lived in).
Thirty years ago, such people determined the country's standards in entertainment, music, food, clothing, politics, personal values. Today, they are the people who are accused of creating every social injustice imaginable; when anything in society fails, they get blamed.
The places where they live lack economic opportunities for the next generation; they know their children and grandchildren will never experience the comfortable situations they had growing up — surrounded by family who lived next door, able to find a great job without going to college, both common traits among many successful small-business owners in the state.
These Trump supporters are not the kind you find on Twitter saying dumb or racist things; many of them don't have the time or the patience to engage in social media because they are too busy working and living life in real time.
These are voters who are intellectually offended watching the Affordable Care Act crumble because they warned six years ago that it was an unworkable government overreach. They are the same people who wonder why President Obama has not taken a break from a week of golfing to address the devastating floods in Louisiana. (As one woman told me, “It appears as if he only makes statements during tragedies if there is political gain attached.”)
Voice such a remark, and you risk being labeled a racist in many parts of America.
The Joe-Six-Pack stereotype of a Trump supporter was not created in a vacuum; it's real and it's out there. Yet, if you dig down deep into the Gallup survey — or, better yet, take a drive 15 minutes outside of most cities in America — you will learn a different story.
That is, if you look and listen.

Interesting piece Tom and neglect will do it, it will cause people to change who they support

"or, better yet, take a drive 15 minutes outside of most cities in America....
These Trump supporters are not the kind you find on Twitter saying dumb or racist things; many of them don't have the time or the patience to engage in social media because they are too busy working and living life in real time".


20 years ago, the county I live in was solid Democrat. In this past election, of all the county seats, judges, tax people, coroner, Sheriff etc. only 1 Democrat ran. Trump carried the county, just outside metro Atlanta, 75-25 and Trump signs ran 95-5. County used to be fairly redneck, born and raised here, almost all blue collar. Today, the county is predominantly white collar. HMMM. Majority of the people moving here are from liberal NE and Mid West states yet they vote overwhelmingly Republican.

Don't blame the Ruskies, blame Hillary, Podesta, Shultz, Palmieri and all the Ivory Tower intelligencia who only wanted 2 things; hide the emails and buy a purple pants suit-XL.

Been busy as heck the last few days ergo my absence... about these claims "the CIA" made the claim.. and the FBI backs them... bullhockey. They all originated from "unnamed sources" which in lame stream media parlance.. means they made it up most of the time.. and you have a lot of other Liberal media cross quoting each other on this... the root issue is unreliable and likely fraudulent "unnamed sources" makes this yet another Fake news story.

yet another Fake news story.

Didn't have any doubt smoothy, if the Russians did it they would be much more subtle. Come Monday all this hoo ha should come to an end

Didn't have any doubt smoothy, if the Russians did it they would be much more subtle. Come Monday all this hoo ha should come to an end
The CIA doesn't have an issue making a Press release on issues like this IF in fact it did originate from them... they haven't shyed away in the past ... why would they have on this? I agree...like so many other things this will fade into the past.

I disagree and doubt this will fade away. Just the opposite... it will get BIGGER... as well it should!

48620

If that is referring to the riots protesting Trump's election that came AFTER the election so that Meme doesn't make any sense. The only violence I recall during the campaign came around Trump rallies.

Here is the lastest Salena Zito article .

The glass revolving doors of Trump Tower were doing what they have done every day since Donald Trump became the president-elect of the United States: briskly allowing a steady stream of mostly tourists from the interior of the country get a glimpse, sometimes longer, of the comings and goings of the man and his Cabinet members who will soon govern this country. "The energy of the people who come just to stand behind the ropes is sort of unbelievable," said one of two New York City fireman charged with keeping an eye on things in the lobby of the building where the president-elect has been going about the business of putting his government together for his January inauguration.
"If you see Mr. Trump can you please tell him that the Murphys' from Minnesota wish him good luck and that we pray for him?" a gentleman told one of the police officers as he and his wife strolled past the elevators where Trump, his children, future Cabinet members, U.S. senators, members of Congress, business leaders, a former vice president and a rapper have all taken the golden elevators to the 26th floor.
Carlos, from Florida, a third-generation Hispanic American also wanted to pass on good wishes to the Trump family, as he lingered with his family in the lobby, "We saved up to come to New York for Christmas for the first time, I wanted my family to see the best city in America, first place we stop is here to maybe see the next president," he told an officer standing off to the left of the gold elevators

It's like that all day long," the fire chief said, adding, "To be honest I didn't know what to expect during the transition process, but honestly the well-wishers come from all over and really just want him to know they are behind him," he said.

It's not exactly the same reception that Trump is getting from those who opposed him, loathed him, still have not accepted that he has won the election and worse yet still have not understood why he won.

They have blamed Russian interference and James Comey's letter for Hillary Clinton's loss; yes the Russians have appeared to interfere and yes Comey's letter was damning to Clinton, but if we all had the ability to be honest with ourselves the DNC emails and the Comey hesitation only reinforced people's view of Clinton's character whether for or against her.
In short, if more journalists had spent time in Middle America, they would have understood that this election wasn't decided at the last moment. The outcome was not a result of what was in those emails. People had already concluded they knew who Clinton was, and the revelations only cemented those sentiments.
Same with the Comey letter.
Here is a shocker: I'd estimate based on my reporting that this election was baked before the debates, before the "Access Hollywood" tapes, before the hacked emails and before anyone took the time to actually notice, listen and understand just how upended the American voter is.
Pollsters will likely become apoplectic over my conclusion. That's OK, they deal with numbers and could likely argue with great big gobs of data that I'm wrong; while I am not in the business of predicting, I am in the business of listening to people.
It was there in plain sight for everyone to see if they wanted to; it is clear that they did not and that is a bias towards him and prejudice towards the people that needs to be corrected.
What is remarkable right now is that a large portion of the pundits and some reporters still don't get it; they still aren't listening, they still aren't opening their minds to the concerns of the voters who placed him in office and they are still missing what is hiding in plain sight for all of them to see; this guy connects with a large portion of the United States.
Yes Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump, the bulk of which are located in two states, but that is not how you win. In the 1960 World Series the New York Yankees scored 55 runs to the Pittsburgh Pirates 27; out-hit them as well .328 verses .256, but the Pirates won when it counted and all those superior numbers meant nothing.
In short, you win by the rules of the game, not by the rules of your bias.
The media miss the things that matter to voters like how Trump thanks his voters verses Clinton's thank you; he holds rallies in the very regions that provided him with a win, while Hillary thanks the big dollar donors in Manhattan.
Absolutely no one knows if Donald Trump is going to be a good or bad president. That is on him, his decision and the people he surrounds himself with. Was it a good idea to go after the CIA when it came to the Russians? No. He should have drawn a clear line saying his win had nothing to do with Russian hacking and that as president he will make sure that this never happens again.
That is the part of him that he needs to curtail but certainly not a sign, as many have suggested, that he is in bed with the Russians, or that he is a demagogue, or a fascist, or a Nazi, or will take press freedoms away, or any of the other of the thousands of things he has been accused of in the past month.
And despite repeated efforts to delegitimize his candidacy with recounts and faithless electors and allegations that the Russians stole the election from Clinton, none of this doubt-casting is going to change anything. It is a reminder that many people in this country have no idea of basic U.S. civics.
Hillary Clinton lost because she ran arguably one of the worst campaigns in the history of campaigns; there was no message, their team ignored the pleas of longtime grassroots activists to be more engaged, and to stop hating on anyone who was not brown, black, gay or part of some specialized voting bloc.
Bill Clinton understood that , you could see it in his speeches and his mannerisms at each event in Western Pennsylvania and Ohio that I covered; he understood that the politics was not reaching the very voters he embraced 20 years earlier, and you could see it pained him to see them dying young, left behind and without hope.
There is an argument to be made that had reporters and Clinton's team done two things a year ago they would have understood what was happening this year; read Trump's book, "The Art of the Deal," and gone out and really listened to voters rather than make a spectacle of them.
There is also an argument to be made going forward that reporters should do the same thing today; we have four more years of this administration with a big midterm in between today and his potential reelection. It might be a good time to start to get to know both instead of spending the next four years continuously getting him and them wrong.

Salena Zito
Two things Democrats, and the media, should do to understand Trump | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/two-things-democrats-and-the-media-should-do-to-understand-trump/article/2609882?custom_click=rss)

I think it is time to understand that Dump won despite the media, He won despite the hysteria, he won despite the illegals. Whether he has the temprement to be president is something else

What Zito is saying is that reporters should actually visit America before they pretend to report about it .

Don't the losers whine and winners celebrate? Happens after EVERY election doesn't it?

let's see ;2000 the Dems contested the results in court ;2004 Kerry claimed that Bush rigged the election .

In 2004, when Kerry lost the Presidential race to George W. Bush, who is widely considered the worst President of the modern era, he refused to challenge the results, despite his suspicion that in certain states, particularly Ohio, where the Electoral College count hinged, proxies for Bush had rigged many voting machines,”
John Kerry Thinks Bush Rigged The 2004 Election | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/15/john-kerry-thinks-bush-rigged-the-2004-election/#ixzz4TF4nvCEh)

2008 Al Franken challenges the results of the Minnesota Senate race . Franken won after ineligible voter ballots were allowed. He becomes the key vote in the Obamacare Senate vote .He casts the 60th vote Dec 2009 making the law filibuster proof.
Jan 2010 Mass.voters selected Scott Brown to replace the swimmer Ted Kennedy . There was no more 60th vote . So the Dem narrative changed to Republican obstruction due to the race of the President . Anyway there was no equivalent challenges to the legitimacy of the Obama adm except for some fringe people like Trump who challenged the emperor's eligibility