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tomder55
Nov 12, 2016, 11:54 AM
So you think we should just drop all the investigations into the Clinton crime family ? You think they will just fade into the sunset ? Nope that won't happen .

Chelsea Clinton being groomed to run for Congress | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clinton-being-groomed-to-run-for-congress/)

And the worse of it is that they are planning to run her in my Congressional District !! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!


Chelsea could run for the seat in NYC’s 17th Congressional District once Lowey, a respected, 79-year-old career politician with nearly 30 years in office, decides to retire, we have exclusively learned.
Lowey’s district includes parts of Rockland and Westchester counties and, conveniently, Chappaqua, the Clinton family home base.



The Republican party is so impotent in this part of the country that Lowey ran this year unopposed . So whichever Dem is chosen by Tammany Hall will be the Rep. The plan is clear ,bribe Lowey to retire or just muscle her out of the seat . Then when Chelsea is in Congress ,the Clintoons can continue their brand of pay for play influence peddling .

Wondergirl
Nov 12, 2016, 12:31 PM
Lotsa "could"s in that article....

Does Chelsea know anything about this plan for her political life?

tomder55
Nov 12, 2016, 02:59 PM
Lotsa "could"s in that article....

Does Chelsea know anything about this plan for her political life?

Unknown ,but from this perch it appears she's been groomed for some time .

smoothy
Nov 12, 2016, 03:27 PM
I wish they ALL would just fade away to never be heard from again.

talaniman
Nov 12, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sounds like more whining to me.

smoothy
Nov 12, 2016, 06:14 PM
After the Crap her mother has pulled... they could and should be charged under the RICO act...

tomder55
Nov 13, 2016, 02:55 AM
This was the backup plan .Those speaking fees and donations are going to stop if the Clintoons can't sell government access. Bubba already purchased the home next to his home so Chelsea will have an address in the district while she still operates in Manhattan.

She is as corrupt as her parents. She used foundation money to pay for her wedding . Her husband used foundation ties to boost his hedge fund.

This is just a logical step for the dynasty . Kennedy family ,Bush family all continued their dynasties though 2nd and 3rd generations.

earl237
Nov 17, 2016, 01:42 PM
I think that the hatred that so many people have for Hillary Clinton is pretty childish, irrational and sexist. Sure she has her flaws but she was far more qualified to be president than Trump. Look up the article 10 dark secrets of George Soros on the site listverse.com He is like a real-life Bond villain and despite the horrible things he has done, he doesn't get a fraction of the hate that Clinton gets, same thing for Trump. Grow up America.

smoothy
Nov 17, 2016, 03:41 PM
I think that the hatred that so many people have for Hillary Clinton is pretty childish, irrational and sexist. Sure she has her flaws but she was far more qualified to be president than Trump. Look up the article 10 dark secrets of George Soros on the site listverse.com He is like a real-life Bond villain and despite the horrible things he has done, he doesn't get a fraction of the hate that Clinton gets, same thing for Trump. Grow up America.
Bovine excrement, Her list of crimes it is long, Only a Democrat would call hating Hillary exist. Look at how the Democrats treated Sarah Palin, who was both smarter and one heck of a lot more likable. So before you go throwing that out, your party set that bar for what is acceptable not that many years ago.

And as far as being as you claim "far more qualified than Trump"... what a load. What has she ever been successful at besides brainwashing Democrats to believe what she says and not what her record shows? Seriously as Senator what did she actually Accomplish? What bills did she pen or cosponsor that made it through? WHat did she accomplish as Sec of State. Benghazi? Sorry only a Hillary supporter would be proud of that. As far as George Soros... oh he has a lot of haters and for good reason to. He has an international arrest warrant out for him already, and he should have one here too because its proven and well known he is funding the protestors who have committes serious amounts of proterty damage, assaults and has even been responsible for deaths so far. That's a chargeable crime. In fact there is a long list of them on that subject alone. THere are Millions world wide who will celibate the day George Soros is reported dead in the media. But HE wasn't running for an office of power in the USA.

I've also met her, off camera without the public or cameras around, Just secret service and some other various workers. She IS as mean tempered and viscous as is claimed, she only put on the smile in public... She is an evil mean spirited person... nobody called her dumb. I also know someone who worked in the White house for Bills first tern and half of his second and they saw a LOT of that same behavior. There were others I didn't know as well who back that one I did.

And besides all of that... Justify the treatment Slander and Libel Trump faced daily by the media who all but ignored Hillary and in fact were helping her cheat by feeding her questions before debates... all of which has been proven by wikileaks.

And that email thing... if it was ANYONE of us... we would already be charged, tried and convicted and serving serious time in a Federal prison. I've had those level clearances... I know what's agreed to, I know what the penalties are because I was subject to them and agreed to them. More than once.

Not personal Earl, but its funny how the Liberals feel justified bashing the opposition usually on something they dream up, and get upset when their person gets called out of the carpet for things they actually have done.

And before any brings up law degrees....Neither Hillary or Bill have one , they both lost them years ago.

Alty
Nov 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
Just an interested by stander here. I find it amusing that there's so much hate for Clinton, and none for Donald from his supporters.

I guess it's all a matter of who you support. If you support Clinton then you can look past all her flaws, all the illegal things she's done. And if you support Donald you can look past all his flaws, and all the illegal things he's done. They're both criminals.

I think it's long past time for both sides to realize that neither candidate was squeaky clean, and neither would have made a good president.

I'm so sick of reading about Hilary's emails. Hello, what about the rape charges against Trump?

Both of them should be in jail, so if you pardon one, you have to pardon the other, so stop using their illegal activities as your only reason not to vote for them, they're both guilty as sin.

smoothy
Nov 17, 2016, 06:48 PM
Just an interested by stander here. I find it amusing that there's so much hate for Clinton, and none for Donald from his supporters.

I guess it's all a matter of who you support. If you support Clinton then you can look past all her flaws, all the illegal things she's done. And if you support Donald you can look past all his flaws, and all the illegal things he's done. They're both criminals.

I think it's long past time for both sides to realize that neither candidate was squeaky clean, and neither would have made a good president.

I'm so sick of reading about Hilary's emails. Hello, what about the rape charges against Trump?

Both of them should be in jail, so if you pardon one, you have to pardon the other, so stop using their illegal activities as your only reason not to vote for them, they're both guilty as sin.You haven't watched, listen to or read any of the American media then, because they have a lovefest for anything liberal, and absolute hatred for anything right of socialist. And it didn't start this election Cycle... ithey were in full on Pravda mode the last 3+ election cycles.

And maybe because there is absolutely no proof of that claim against Trump...Democrat operatives have made those sorts of unfounded claims for the last several election cycles to slander people and then those same people making the claims are never heard from again because they weren't real claims. No charges ever made nothing..they were made purely to ruin someones reputation. And that's what they were after..to take someone who had a real chance out of the running.

Hillary violated a number of very serious Federal crimes with those emails. Serious enough to get her 10-30 years in prison or more. Those were NOT a little insignificant thing...they were very real...and even Hillary doesn't disagree she did it. The bigger part of the scandle is the fact she is getting special treatment nobody else would get.

Did you know anyone in your life that had friends or relatives in the right places that got them out of trouble over and over while other people you know went to jail for the same thing.....this is just like that.

Alty
Nov 17, 2016, 07:11 PM
Smoothy, instead of posting all the things Trump didn't do, why not post what he will do for the US? I have been listening, watching, and reading, I know more than you think. So instead of writing about all of Hilary's crimes and all the reasons you didn't vote for her, take her out of the equation all together and tell me why you voted from Trump? What does he bring to the table? What will he do to make America great again?

No mention of Clinton at all, let's make it all about Trump. What will he do for your country?

tomder55
Nov 18, 2016, 11:33 AM
I did not vote for either . I note that Trump has moderated his rhetoric greatly since the campaign ,and realizes he will not succeed unless he taps into the skills of the 'establishment ' types . His chief of staff is the very definition of an insider . His National Security guy ,Gen Flynn is solid ;and a lifetime Dem btw.

Although I would've preferred Congressman Trey Gowdy or Sen Ted Cruz for AG ;Jeff Sessions is a good pick too.

So if he continues to select good people to serve in his administration then maybe he won't be as bad as I fear he'll be.

earl237
Nov 18, 2016, 12:44 PM
Slate.com has an article saying that Jeff Sessions will be a disaster for civil rights so I don't see why you think that he is such a great pick. They're saying that Mitt Romney could be secretary of state, he would be a good, respectable choice. Treasury, Commerce and Interior are the ones I'm worried about since trade with the U.S. is very important for Canada's economy and I care a lot about the environment but Trump's views on the environment and climate change are very backward. Approving the Keystone pipeline and cutting corporate taxes are some of the only issues that I agree with him on.

tomder55
Nov 19, 2016, 10:44 AM
Slate.com has an article saying that Jeff Sessions will be a disaster for civil rights so I don't see why you think that he is such a great pick. They're saying that Mitt Romney could be secretary of state, he would be a good, respectable choice. Treasury, Commerce and Interior are the ones I'm worried about since trade with the U.S. is very important for Canada's economy and I care a lot about the environment but Trump's views on the environment and climate change are very backward. Approving the Keystone pipeline and cutting corporate taxes are some of the only issues that I agree with him on.

Slate is wrong about many things .Sessions included . I'll say again he was not my 1st choice . But he will do well there . The lies they tell about his supposed racism is appalling . He played a big role in desegregating Alabama schools . Their claims that he ever favored the KKK is a vile smear. Contrarily he took on the Klan .He prosecuted the head of the state Klan, Henry Francis Hays, for abducting and killing Michael Donald, a black teenager selected at random. Sessions insisted on the death penalty for Hays. When he was later elected the state Attorney General, Sessions followed through and made sure Hays was executed. The successful prosecution of Hays also led to a $7 million civil judgment against the Klan, effectively breaking the back of the KKK in Alabama. Sessions actively supported the nomination of Eric Holder;Obama 's 1st AG.

I think this meeting with Romney is for party unity . Nothing will come of it . I think John Bolton would be the best pick for Sec State .

I heard rumors that Trump made an offer to Jamie Dimon, CEO of J.P. Morgan for Treasury . That would be a mistake.

I heard Wilbur Ross ,a billionaire as a possible Commerce Sec.

Interior could be interesting . I've heard everyone from oil executives ,to Jan Brewer's and Sarah Palin's name being floated .

tomder55
Nov 19, 2016, 10:53 AM
also love the idea of Michelle Rhee as Sec Education.

Wondergirl
Nov 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
also love the idea of Michelle Rhee as Sec Education.
She'll fit right in with the rest of that crowd.

smoothy
Nov 19, 2016, 09:54 PM
Smoothy, instead of posting all the things Trump didn't do, why not post what he will do for the US? I have been listening, watching, and reading, I know more than you think. So instead of writing about all of Hilary's crimes and all the reasons you didn't vote for her, take her out of the equation all together and tell me why you voted from Trump? What does he bring to the table? What will he do to make America great again?

No mention of Clinton at all, let's make it all about Trump. What will he do for your country?

He WILL do numerous things that are Pro-Business... which are pro-jobs, and that is good for the economy. Which will be a marked change from the anti-business attitude we have suffered from for 8 years that reduces jobs, has resulted in the lowest workforce participation rate since Jimmy Carter was in office. U-6 unemployment number reflect this and the Government statistics do show it as well. The so-called "Unemployment Rates" you hear on the media are mostly bogus numbers because they only count people who are eligible to collect benefits (which does not count Contractors, temporary workers, ANY self employed person) or those who were collecting benefits but they ran out before they found employment.

Trump is going to stand up for this country and not apologize to every other country like Obama did. Trump is not the weak willed Senator who never voted for anything except as "present". Unlike most Career politicians... he knows what it takes to run a successful business... and what makes a business NOT want to hire people or expand. And before anyone harps on him having filed a bankruptcy in the past... millions of other people have as well as the Clinton's, One of my best friends wife went on shopping sprees and did it...more than once. The difference is he earned his money.. he didn't get handouts from political groupies giving huge amounts to listen to them regurgitate propaganda.

Trump may not have been my first pick... but he was better than anyone he was running against. Which is often the case with elected positions.

And most importantly... Its not about the perks or the money and pension... he's as disgusted as most of us at political cesspool. He may not be able to drain the entire swamp... but if he can drain even half of it and cut down on the mosquito infestation... he will have made a HUGE improvement.

Wondergirl
Nov 19, 2016, 10:03 PM
Voting "Present" in the Senate means "not good enough -- go back to the drawing board and give this some more thought."

http://m.blogher.com/what-does-it-mean-vote-present

smoothy
Nov 19, 2016, 11:58 PM
Voting "Present" in the Senate means "not good enough -- go back to the drawing board and give this some more thought."

What does it mean to vote "Present" | BlogHer (http://m.blogher.com/what-does-it-mean-vote-present)

Voting Present means he was trying to be on both sides of the fence at the same time. He can argue he didn't vote for it to the people opposed to it, and he also claim he didn't vote against it for the people who supported it.

If it wasn't good enough a NO vote would do it. All it REALLY amounts to saying was I was there at that moment.

tomder55
Nov 20, 2016, 03:21 AM
also love the idea of Michelle Rhee as Sec Education.


She'll fit right in with the rest of that crowd.

She did great work as Chancellor of the DC schools . I know the teacher's unions heads will collectively explode over the pick because she demands accountability and performance. What the nation needs is more choice in education ,and she took a lead in that effort before the Dems in Washington denied the parents and children of the DC schools a choice. The only better outcome than a Rhee appointment to Dept of Education would be the elimination of the whole dept all together .


Your opposition to her puts you in agreement with conservative sites like The Federalist ,Breitbart, and American Thinker .

Wondergirl
Nov 20, 2016, 09:17 AM
Voting Present means he was trying to be on both sides of the fence at the same time. He can argue he didn't vote for it to the people opposed to it, and he also claim he didn't vote against it for the people who supported it.

If it wasn't good enough a NO vote would do it. All it REALLY amounts to saying was I was there at that moment.
Not true, smoothy! Please read the link.

Wondergirl
Nov 20, 2016, 09:45 AM
Your opposition to her puts you in agreement with conservative sites like The Federalist ,Breitbart, and American Thinker .
Rhee has no love for teachers and staff:

When she taught in Baltimore, "students had national standardized test (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardized_test) scores that were initially at the 13th percentile but at the end of two years, the class was at grade level, with some students performing at the 90th percentile." [There were questions about how this amazing changes came about. "Education expert Diane Ravitch (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Ravitch) questioned the legitimacy of Rhee's results, alleging that 'cheating, teaching to bad tests, institutionalized fraud, dumbing down of tests, and a narrowed curriculum' were the true outcomes of Rhee's tenure in D.C. schools."]

"In 2010 [as D.C. Chancellor], Rhee and the unions agreed on a new contract that offered 20 percent pay raises and bonuses of $20,000 to $30,000 for "strong student achievement," in exchange for weakened teachers' seniority protections and the end of teacher tenure for one year. Under this new agreement, Rhee fired 241 teachers, the vast majority of whom received poor evaluations, and put 737 additional school employees on notice." (all quotes from Wikipedia)

tomder55
Nov 23, 2016, 07:29 PM
Under this new agreement, Rhee fired 241 teachers, the vast majority of whom received poor evaluations, accountability sucks .

Anyway Trump picked someone instead who will really have the progressive'
heads exploding .Excellent choice Betsy DeVos ;Take out Common Core; Take on Teachers Union; Let local folk decide..... Real Reform.

tomder55
Nov 24, 2016, 10:27 AM
That pay for play Clinton gig is drying up . Chelsea had better hurry up .

Foreign Donors Begin Pulling Out From Clinton Foundation | Observer (http://observer.com/2016/11/foreign-donors-begin-pulling-out-from-clinton-foundation/)

talaniman
Nov 24, 2016, 08:55 PM
They're all running over to Trump!

tomder55
Nov 25, 2016, 04:44 AM
Trump has so many conflicts of interest that can potentially cause a constitutional crisis. I don't see how the issues can be resolved unless he concedes to major liquidation . I don't even think a blind trust would work since much of his wealth is generated from name branding .

Just one example ..... foreign diplomats are rushing to book rooms in his new DC hotel . That is clearly an attempt to get on his good side .

talaniman
Nov 25, 2016, 07:04 AM
You can bet the dems AND the "lamestream" will point all of that out Tom, in a very public way. The issue is where will repubs fall on what actions should be taken on those very obvious conflicts, AND the less obvious ones?

smoothy
Nov 25, 2016, 12:16 PM
Not true, smoothy! Please read the link.
It is true. If you like it you vote for it, if you dislike it you vote against it. If you are trying to claim both or neither to try to suck up to both side you vote present. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... its a duck. Just like John Kerry voting for it right before he voted against it. Maybe it wasn't a famous flub and like so many other Democrats who have been voting more than once...and it did vote for it AND against it. Politicians want to have their cake and eat it too. And will write REAMS explaining how white really isn't white and black really isn't black.

tomder55
Nov 26, 2016, 03:33 AM
More proof that the Clinton Foundation was just a pay to play scam by the Clintonoids .
Clinton cash stops: Australian donations to Clinton Foundation over (http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australia-ceases-multimilliondollar-donations-to-controversial-clinton-family-charities/news-story/219577919ed8dfbd79cf808321234eba)

The government should not cease it's investigation into the Clinton Family racketeering and corruption .

tomder55
Nov 26, 2016, 04:03 AM
You can bet the dems AND the "lamestream" will point all of that out Tom, in a very public way.

It's already started .http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/2016-11-23-GAO_Letter_On_Trump_Transition.pdf

talaniman
Nov 26, 2016, 12:46 PM
More proof that the Clinton Foundation was just a pay to play scam by the Clintonoids .
Clinton cash stops: Australian donations to Clinton Foundation over (http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australia-ceases-multimilliondollar-donations-to-controversial-clinton-family-charities/news-story/219577919ed8dfbd79cf808321234eba)

The government should not cease it's investigation into the Clinton Family racketeering and corruption .

Nor should they ignore the Trump Foundation activities or those of Rudy Gulliani, or any other rich guy making money schemes, super pacs notwithstanding.

You may a well get them all under scrutiny because to think Hillary is the only corrupt politician would be rather naïve wouldn't it?

smoothy
Nov 26, 2016, 01:58 PM
Hillary is the MOST CORRUPT politician in American History. That's the issue. And the party who has been constantly harping to this day about Watergate.. which was really absolutely nothing should at least be keeping their own house somewhat clean.

Wondergirl
Nov 26, 2016, 02:05 PM
Hillary is the MOST CORRUPT politician in American History.
But does she grab guys' crotches?

tomder55
Nov 26, 2016, 02:13 PM
Nor should they ignore the Trump Foundation activities or those of Rudy Gulliani, or any other rich guy making money schemes, super pacs notwithstanding.

You may a well get them all under scrutiny because to think Hillary is the only corrupt politician would be rather naïve wouldn't it?

of course . I'm for shining the light in all the dark corners and watching the roaches scatter .

smoothy
Nov 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
But does she grab guys' crotches? Most guys would punch that shrew out if she tried. She is a most unpleasant person to be around. That's why Bill did what he did as long as he's been doing it.

Wondergirl
Nov 26, 2016, 05:01 PM
Most guys would punch that shrew out if she tried. She is a most unpleasant person to be around.
But women aren't allowed to (literally or verbally) punch out Trump. He has lotsa money.

smoothy
Nov 26, 2016, 05:39 PM
But women aren't allowed to (literally or verbally) punch out Trump. He has lotsa money.Nobody is stopping them. Maybe contrary to the leftist medias opinion... they really didn't mind it at all and probably liked it. Its acceptable for women to flirt and more when they want to get ahead... nobody chastises them for doing it. Except maybe the militant feminists that nobody wants anyway.

Wondergirl
Nov 26, 2016, 06:04 PM
Nobody is stopping them. Maybe contrary to the leftist medias opinion... they really didn't mind it at all and probably liked it. Its acceptable for women to flirt and more when they want to get ahead... nobody chastises them for doing it. Except maybe the militant feminists that nobody wants anyway.
Sorry, Charlie. I've been grabbed and groped by men on buses and trains and street corners. I didn't ask for it, wasn't even hoping for it. It was quick and dirty, too fast to lash out. They disappeared as quickly as they had appeared. It ain't no fun. And who do ya call? Not Ghostbusters.... (P.S. I didn't like it, not one bit.)

earl237
Nov 28, 2016, 01:07 PM
I agree that groping and sexual harassment are serious problems and that perpetrators should face serious punishment but false accusations do happen. I saw a Japanese film called "I just didn't do it" about a young man who was falsely accused of groping a woman on a train and it took a five year legal battle to clear his name. The justice system in Japan is terrifying. Remaining silent and asking for a lawyer are practically considered an admission of guilt, defendants usually plead guilty even if they're innocent because there is an over 99% conviction rate if a case goes to trial, finding defendants not guilty can actually damage a judge's career. Even in Canada and the U.S. you're only innocent until proven broke and anyone accused of a sexual offense in college is usually automatically expelled without proof or the chance to defend oneself.