Why is this NOT True?

"IF Hillary Wins
America Loses"

It should be on Signs all across the Country.

Because it Trump wins, America as we know it will be destroyed.

As bad as Hillary is, and she is not as bad as Trump or the conservative media contend she is, she is still a dedicated public servant with the good of the people on her mind.

The ONLY way for America to Win is for them BOTH to lose !!!.
Sorry, but that's how it's seen over here...
You think our politicos stretch the truth.....

Because it Trump wins, America as we know it will be destroyed.

As bad as Hillary is, and she is not as bad as Trump or the conservative media contend she is, she is still a dedicated public servant with the good of the people on her mind.

You Jest.

http://www.triketalk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40108&d=1477081071

Trump is committing seppuku now by going after Michelle Obama.

Because it's one of those empty buzz phrases I'm sick of?

I mean like really, doesn't every campaign pretty much predict utter doom if the other candidate wins?

Sick sick sick of it. If we don't shorten future campaign periods to 11 months, I'm moving to Mars to be the first to be on the compost heap in the biodome.

The Hildebeast Made Nixon look like a Saint before Bills first six months in office. In the last 8 years she's committed more crimes than 90% of the people in the prison system.

As much as I hated Julian Assange and Wikileaks... what they have done in the last several years was a great service to America by pointing out to everyone open minded enough to listen that a select few knew for years but were called conspiracy theorists.

I know more than a few native New Yorkers... as in born and raised in and around NYC. They have unique personality traits... particularly anyone who has made a success of themselves around there that is. Not just surviving. Trump embodies those traits.

He might not have been my first choice, but I can't help but like and respect someone who has the balls to speak their mind... particularly when its about a career politician who has never really earned an honest living. Particularity a crooked one who has been outed time and time again like Hillary.

First I am a born and bred New Yorker. I was born in Manhattan and grew up in Manhattan and Brooklyn. I've lived in the greater NY area all my life. Trump does NOT embody the traits of real New Yorkers. He is egotistical and egomaniacal. He lives in a fantasy world of his own making.

Sure he speaks his mind, unfortunately that mind is out of touch with reality. Its one thing to have the courage to speak one's mind. It is another thing to just utter things that don't make sense, that are outright falsehoods and worse.

Sure there are good points to having a president who is an outsider, not a career politician. But Trump is not the person for that. He does not have the temperament to function as this country's chief executive. A Trump presidency will make the US the laughing stock of the world. He will not be able to get any of his policies through because Congress will not work with him. And most of his policies will set the US and the economy back 20years or more.

As for Hillary's alleged criminal acts, she has never even been indicted for anything. Yes she has made a number of bad decisions but I don't see anything truly criminal. The fraud of Trump University, the illegal solicitation of funds for Trump Foundation, the several unethical dealing with suppliers and contractors are more criminal in my view. Given a choice between someone who has made a career of public service and someone who has made a career of self aggrandizement, I'm going to pick the public servant. I am totally and completely convinced that a Trump presidency will be a real disaster for this country. I am not convinced that a Clinton presidency will move this country forward, but it won't be disaster Trump WILL be.

Oh and about WikiLeaks, There is more than ample evidence that those leaks are being orchestrated by the Russian government. that the Russian government wants so badly to have Trump as president is almost reason enough to vote for Hillary.

First one that came to mind... FileGate... 9 months Hillary was in contempt of congress, and perjury in front of congress. Both a Jail-able offence on their own, ones anyone else and others HAVE gone to jail for. Scooter Libby went to jail for doing EXACTLY what Hillary got away with during FIlegate, . only she lied....he recalled something wrong.

The cases of files were in the White House residence the entire time... Nobody else snuck them in.. it would have been impossible. Nobody and nothing comes in and out of their without being inspected and logged by a number of Secret service agents 24X7.

And with Wikileaks... sorry, but Obama and the Democrat party are the ones with the most to lose and the most indignant about being caught on many things. They are the LEAST credible people to be pointing fingers at anyone. They rigged the Primary to make sure Hildebeast got in, and thats also been proven. I believe nothing they have to say about anything. Its already proven they will stop at nothing ti rig the election. Wikileaks has proven prominent DNC staff stating as much.

As many times as Bush was accused of wagging the dog by the Democrat, this bunch of Democrats is actually doing it.


I don't give a free pass to any of the people that passed classified data to them because they were upset....They took the job..they do the job..if they can't they should quit the job...but they need to respect the conditions of the job..or suffer the consequences from not doing that. I admire wikileaks on one hand for outting the hypocricy proving what many of us have said for years, but also vilify them for the rest on the other hand. I actually do still have much more disdain for them than respect. Just not as much as before.

Half of my coworkers are in Manhattan and North Jersey, I've known dozens over the last 20+ years who spent their entire lives that that do have those traits...and these are all people in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. I didn't imply they all do, I know they don't...but all the ones I personally know who have done well for themselves do. Transplants tend to mellow when they are out of that environment, and that I've seen from some ex-New Yorkers.

Not meaning that in a negative way...its not that much different than other TYPE A personalities...its just a bit more identifiable. Humility and humbleness are not common among type A people. Type A aggressiveness is rewarded most often...the type B person who may be good at what they do...will be taken advantage of and not get ahead nearly as fast.

That applies more in NYC than most other areas. They have a very good reason to say, if you can make it in NYC, you can make it anywhere.

Ben got it right on this one.
That's why I'm pushing third party, hopeless as it seems.

A saying is floating around the web that Trump is an example of everything wrong with American Culture while Clinton is an example of everything wrong with American Government.

Edit: To answer the OP, rumor has it that Putin has threatened to launch if Hillary wins. Another rumor has BLM threatening civil war if Trump gets it. I can probably survive BLM.

Again, she hasn't been indicted for anything. If others went to jail for what you believe Hillary did and she didn't, then maybe there wasn't enough evidence to indict.

With WikiLeaks I've seen several of these alleged e-mails that have been proven to be phonies.

I believe nothing they have to say about anything.
While I can understand why you feel that way, It shows that you have a bias that will ignore things that are facts.

What I have seen throughout this election is twofold. First people are not supporting a candidate, they are against the other candidate. And second this makes them blind to the other candidate's shortcomings. People support Trump because they dislike Hillary and vice versa.

I realize Hillary has problems and I don't know if she will be a good president or not. That's why we need to pay more attention to the down ballot races. We need to send to Congress people who we believe will reign in whoever we choose for president.

But I am firmly convinced that Trump represents a danger to this country. Just look at the latest storm. At the first debate he promised to accept the election. Then, as is numbers slipped, he started whining about election fraud with no proof whatsoever. I am reminded of Joe McCarthy holding up a piece of paper claiming to have the names of communists in government. This is a man who claims he can unite the country, yet all he does is increase division. His refusal to say he will accept the outcome if he loses is just another example that he doesn't have the temperament to be president.

Again, I grew up in New York City. And the song is right; "If you can make it there..." But that doesn't mean that Trump displays those characteristics. Instead he displays the worst part of the characteristics of New Yorkers. The arrogance, the sense of entitlement, etc. And may I remind you that Hillary did make it there.


Ben got it right on this one.
That's why I'm pushing third party, hopeless as it seems.

That's not the best answer. The best answer is to concentrate on down ballot elections. Elect a congress that supports your principles and will keep the president in check.

That's not the best answer. The best answer is to concentrate on down ballot elections. Elect a congress that supports your principles and will keep the president in check.

That has not worked so well. The Tax Protest upswell of 2010 had little effect. The record setting takeover of down ballot offices by the republicans since then still hasn't gotten the GDP over 2% growth.

As far as making a laughingstock of America overseas, I give you the respect shown the current administration by the Philippines.

Again, she hasn't been indicted for anything. If others went to jail for what you believe Hillary did and she didn't, then maybe there wasn't enough evidence to indict.

With WikiLeaks I've seen several of these alleged e-mails that have been proven to be phonies.

While I can understand why you feel that way, It shows that you have a bias that will ignore things that are facts.

What I have seen throughout this election is twofold. First people are not supporting a candidate, they are against the other candidate. And second this makes them blind to the other candidate's shortcomings. People support Trump because they dislike Hillary and vice versa.

I realize Hillary has problems and I don't know if she will be a good president or not. That's why we need to pay more attention to the down ballot races. We need to send to Congress people who we believe will reign in whoever we choose for president.

But I am firmly convinced that Trump represents a danger to this country. Just look at the latest storm. At the first debate he promised to accept the election. Then, as is numbers slipped, he started whining about election fraud with no proof whatsoever. I am reminded of Joe McCarthy holding up a piece of paper claiming to have the names of communists in government. This is a man who claims he can unite the country, yet all he does is increase division. His refusal to say he will accept the outcome if he loses is just another example that he doesn't have the temperament to be president.

Again, I grew up in New York City. And the song is right; "If you can make it there..." But that doesn't mean that Trump displays those characteristics. Instead he displays the worst part of the characteristics of New Yorkers. The arrogance, the sense of entitlement, etc. And may I remind you that Hillary did make it there.



That's not the best answer. The best answer is to concentrate on down ballot elections. Elect a congress that supports your principles and will keep the president in check.

Has nothing to do with bias... I've caught them in numerous lies over the last several decades that I knew for a fact were lies... WIKILEAKS just proved I was right. It takes a real bias to take a proven liars word for anything blindly because you have to ignore all the times they have been caught previously.

The Boy that cried wolf story applies... also for the record, I don't blindly believe the media either for the same reasons, and the RNC doesn't get a pass either... 30+ years in and around the government opens ones eyes to the degree of lies politicians and the media will stoop to in order to push whatever their agenda is.

You can't get elected dogcatcher without lies... and the higher up the political ladder you go, the worse it gets.

I hold honesty in high regard.. even if I may not agree with them... but when I catch one in a lie, or worse multiple lies... then I suspect everything they say.

I believe the best place to start... is voter ID. Every country in the world requires a person to present a government issued ID before they can cast a vote. That assures those voting at least are alive and are there legally. And this crap like happened in Illinois and other places... where "uncounted" ballot stuffed boxes were "found" in political party officials vehicles? How obvious a fraud is that... those should never be handled by ANY group with a vested interest in the outcome. Anyone caught committing vote fraud should be forever stripped of their right to vote and be added to a national list of people who have lost that right...

And incidentally.. the RNC has proven themselves to not be much better or different in how they were treating Trump...

And the Media? Well look no further than the Washington comPost... who has been working overtime defending every action Hilary has ever made... ( this email thing violated a number of FEDERAL laws put in place AFTER Nixons administration. Yet to this day they act like Nixon was so horrible and all he did was erase 10 minutes of tape, and in retrospect and comparison a very minor coverup.)

No I'm not giving anyone a free ride here...plenty of blame to go around. Its become endemic in politics and the Media.

All I am going to say further in this discussion is the Democrat Party are a bunch of cowards who are afraid of a fair election. If they wanted fair elections, they would be all for "Voter ID". Now the people on the other hand should be for "Term Limits". They should also send those term limited politicians home, find a job, and not be sucking on the "teat" of the government for the rest of their lives. We have seen what has happened to this country when the politicians have been allowed to run "rough shod" over us. It is time for an outsider to take a shot at it and just maybe we may start to get this country back on the right track. Of course it is up to the stupid voters too many of which are sucking on the political teat to want any change. Bottom line, I will not be around to see this country go down. But, I do feel sorry for my family and all of the future generations yet to come. I am voting for Donald Trump I care less what you people here, think of him. Yes, and the Blacks had better wake up and smell the coffee, instead of standing around with a nickel in one hand and a wish in the other.

Trump is committing seppuku now by going after Michelle Obama.

What is seppuku

Hello c,

I'm not a Hillary fan, but she's gonna get my vote because of the 3 or 4 Supreme Court seats she's gonna fill.. Presidents, bad or good, only impact the country for a decade or so.. The Supreme Court that she'll pick will impact the nation for a century...

Let me be specific. If Trump wins, his Supreme Court will, outlaw abortion, outlaw gay marriage, reinstate the ban on gays in the military, put the final nail in the Voting Rights Act, and insert more and more Christianity into our NON Christian system..

Hillary's Supreme Court, on the other hand, will SAVE a woman's right to choose, overturn Heller, overturn Citizens United, and STRENGTHEN the Voting Rights Act..

Those are just the highlights, but they're BIG highlights.

excon

What is seppuku

I get it

Hello c,

I'm not a Hillary fan, but she's gonna get my vote because of the 3 or 4 Supreme Court seats she's gonna fill.. Presidents, bad or good, only impact the country for a decade or so.. The Supreme Court that she'll pick will impact the nation for a century...

Let me be specific. If Trump wins, his Supreme Court will, outlaw abortion, outlaw gay marriage, reinstate the ban on gays in the military, put the final nail in the Voting Rights Act, and insert more and more Christianity into our NON Christian system..

Hillary's Supreme Court, on the other hand, will SAVE a woman's right to choose, overturn Heller, overturn Citizens United, and STRENGTHEN the Voting Rights Act..

Those are just the highlights, but they're BIG highlights.

excon

Awww, man are you serious? You honestly believe all that is what is going to happen?

Awww, man are you serious? You honestly believe all that is what is going to happen?Hello again, c:

Sure. You don't???

excon

Hello again, c:

Sure. You don't???

excon

Yo Con, you want Heller overturned I get it. LOL

Now as far as abortion is concerned, I don't care about it unless I have to pay for it. It is a damn shame that it is being used as a contraception and letting the country pay for their play.

Hello again, c:

Yeah... I read the 2nd Amendment, and it says something about a MILITIA, not about Joe Schmoe owning guns.. But, it's NOT a matter of what I want anymore.. It's a matter of what's, in FACT, going to happen, and it's going to happen BIGLY. It's going to be LIBERAL heaven.. This is an election you SHOULD have won, but you ran a doofus instead.

Here's some more good stuff: Hobby Lobby will be overturned. Women WILL be covered by their employers insurance, and they WILL be covered for contraceptives... Voter ID laws will be THROWN out.

If I think of some more earth shattering decisions, I'll pop back in..

excon

Hello again, c:

Yeah... I read the 2nd Amendment, and it says something about a MILITIA, not about Joe Schmoe owning guns.. But, it's NOT a matter of what I want anymore.. It's a matter of what's, in FACT, going to happen.

Lemme add a couple more features of a liberal Supreme Court.. Hobby Lobby will be overturned. Women WILL be covered by their employers insurance, and they WILL be covered for contraceptives... Voter ID laws will be THROWN out.

If I think of some more earth shattering decisions, I'll pop back in..

excon

Okay, can't wait. The sky will be blue again, crime will go away and love and flowers will bloom everywhere
But, it's NOT a matter of what I want anymore.. It's a matter of what's, in FACT, going to happen.
Does that make you happy? Maybe I am reading you wrong?

But, it's NOT a matter of what I want anymore.. It's a matter of what's, in FACT, going to happen. Does that make you happy? Maybe I am reading you wrong?Hello again, c:

What's going to happen has NOTHING to do with my politics. Frankly, it has MORE to do with WHY the right wing ran a guy who COULDN'T win - who had NO CHANCE of winning because he knows NOTHING. It's Sharron Angle all over again, only BIGLYER.

Look. I'm not being coy. If you couldn't tell, I'm a flaming lib..

excon

Hello again, c:

What's going to happen has NOTHING to do with my politics. Frankly, it has MORE to do with WHY the right wing ran a guy who COULDN'T win - who had NO CHANCE of winning because he knows NOTHING. It's Sharron Angle all over again, only BIGLYER.

Look. I'm not being coy. If you couldn't tell, I'm a flaming lib..

excon

Just so you know, I am a little slow. Yah a flaming lib... with an afterburner. Gotta run catch you later.

As far as making a laughingstock of America overseas, I give you the respect shown the current administration by the Philippines.Hello C:

The Philippine president is MURDERING his citizens at an extremely rapid rate so, who cares much about what HE has to say??

excon

Awww, man are you serious? You honestly believe all that is what is going to happen?
I agree with excon.

Clinton will almost certainly win the election, especially since early voting is already looking good for Democrats. Trump support is stuck in the 37 to 42 range, inbred morons will vote for him but sensible people will vote for Clinton. Romney got 47 percent in 2012 and he still lost in a landslide. Trump isn't even popular in his own party and a silent majority of suburban women (nasty women), Latinos (bad hombres) and educated middle class people will vote in huge numbers for Clinton.

God, Nov 9 can't come fast enough.

God, Nov 9 can't come fast enough.
I know! I know! The 9th is the day before my birthday. I'm already getting excited!

Clinton will almost certainly win the election, especially since early voting is already looking good for Democrats. Trump support is stuck in the 37 to 42 range, inbred morons will vote for him but sensible people will vote for Clinton. Romney got 47 percent in 2012 and he still lost in a landslide. Trump isn't even popular in his own party and a silent majority of suburban women (nasty women), Latinos (bad hombres) and educated middle class people will vote in huge numbers for Clinton.
That's because those who vote often start early so they can vote under more borrowed and made up names.... and dead people hate standing in line, because well the zombie thing you know.

God, Nov 9 can't come fast enough.

Possibly the most entertaining day online this century.

Currently the left wing media has their panties in a knot because Trump said rightfully should be suspicious of results after Wikileaks has proven the DNC has and does talk about committing election fraud. They also suffer collective amnesia about AL GORE contesting election results all the way to the Supreme court... but hey, he was one of them so that was OK.

Hello again,

There was a time when patriotic Americans wouldn't celebrate a Russian cyber attack. I can't believe one of our political parties is doing that.. Of course, the party of Trump, is now the party of Putin, so I guess it's understandable..

Fortunately, there are still patriotic left wingers, like myself, who can recognize hostile adversaries..

excon

Hello again,

There was a time when patriotic Americans wouldn't celebrate a Russian cyber attack. I can't believe one of our political parties is doing that.. Of course, the party of Trump, is now the party of Putin, so I guess it's understandable..

Fortunately, there are still patriotic left wingers, like myself, who can recognize hostile adversaries..

excon

Hey Glib Lib, stop patting yourself on the back so hard. So you believe Putin is our guy? Just because the Media and the DOJ opps Department of Injustice and the FBI says it, it's true, right? With you being a lefty, that is understandable. Hey, I am left handed but I am not a lefty lib.

Just because the Media and the DOJ opps Department of Injustice and the FBI says it, it's true, right? Hello again, c:

Yeah, that's the Trump line.. So, if the left wing media reported that SEVENTEEN (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/) American intelligence agencies say the culprit is Russia, they'd be LYING??? But, Rush Limprod is telling you the truth, huh? Okee, doakee..

excon

Ex, I truly enjoy you and the left media having fits about who stole the e-mails. It's almost like you're trying to forget who WROTE them.

Hello again, c:

Yeah, that's the Trump line.. So, if the left wing media reported that SEVENTEEN (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/) American intelligence agencies say the culprit is Russia, they'd be LYING??? But, Rush Limprod is telling you the truth, huh? Okee, doakee..

excon

I bet that none of the 17 are snooping around in Russia either. Left or Right it is all wrong. Wonder why we have 17 anyway, might do a better job if they had maybe 5 or 6.

Awww, man are you serious? You honestly believe all that is what is going to happen?

You don't? Both Trump and Hillary said as much at the last debate!

Ex, I truly enjoy you and the left media having fits about who stole the e-mails. It's almost like you're trying to forget who WROTE them.

Its not only that. Several of the e-mails have been shown to have been doctored. Others have only been partially made public, taken out of context. But there is also the point that the Russians seem to want Trump as president and that should scare people.

You don't? Both Trump and Hillary said as much at the last debate!

If, you are saying that each said what they would do then, yes.

And lets point out something else. Trump and the Republicans have spoken about their respect for the Constitution (especially the 2nd amendment). Yet these hypocrites totally ignored the Constitution by refusing to even hold hearings on Obama's nomination to replace Scalia. This, in direct violation of the term's of the Constitution.

Um.. Scott, hate to remind you but the Democrats did that same thing back under Bush... whats good for the goose is good for the gander. THey can't do something then jump up and down and whine when someone else does it too. They set that bar as being acceptable. Lest we remember Obamacare was forced upon us from behind closed doors without a single vote yeah or neigh from a single Republican.

The Democrats really have no moral high ground on anything....where high ground in government these days actually approximates the geography of Florida, or more like a sandbar.

It seems that everyone wants to prove that their party is above question, it just won't fly. As an example
try on the "Nuclear Option" that Harry Reid pulled.

Um.. Scott, hate to remind you but the Democrats did that same thing back under Bush....

Estrada was not a Supreme court nominee. Nor did that incident leave the court with
Out a full slate of judges, hamstringing the court.

Its not only that. Several of the e-mails have been shown to have been doctored.

Shown by whom? Donna Brazille? MSNBC? Trustworthy sources there.

Estrada was not a Supreme court nominee. Nor did that incident leave the court with
Out a full slate of judges, hamstringing the court.
I wasn't talking Estrada. The President only gets to recommend... there is no obligation constitutionally or otherwise to accept or simply rubber stamp any or all recommendations made by the President. In fact Democrats have worked hard in the past to block many.

10 Times Democrats Vowed To Block Republican Nominees (http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/16/10-times-democrats-vowed-to-block-republican-nominees/)

Supreme Court nominations are too politicised in the U.S. In Canada, the prime minister appoints justices and parliament cannot block appointments. Supreme Court judges must retire at age 75. I think this would be a great system for all countries, although I think a 10 year limit would be even better, it would prevent one president from stacking the court for generations like they can now.

Supreme Court nominations are too politicised in the U.S. In Canada, the prime minister appoints justices and parliament cannot block appointments. Supreme Court judges must retire at age 75. I think this would be a great system for all countries, although I think a 10 year limit would be even better, it would prevent one president from stacking the court for generations like they can now.

I tend to agree with you on that Earl. Of course there may need to be some adjustments to what you have said, but the Idea is a good one. Anything to get politics out of the courts.

Okay, so now I understand why you Hillary supporters love Hillary soooo much. Because her odor is something similar to burning sulfer, it reminds you of your father, Satan:

A newly leaked email from Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Manager John Podesta is titled “Hillary actions / unpleasant odor.”
“People tell me that Hillary is acting ‘like a retard’ since her head injury,” wrote Podesta on March 22, 2015. “Frankly, considering her normal behavior, I’m surprised anyone noticed! (this is a joke!) Have someone talk to her doctor and see if there’s anything he can give her.”
“Also, I’ve noticed she’s had an ‘odor’ lately,” he continued. “It reminds me of a combination of boiled cabbage, urine and farts. I’m guessing it’s either connected to her fall or simply the fact that she rarely bathes.”
“Outside of encouraging her to take a shower once in a while, I don’t know what to do about this. — any suggestions would be appreciated.”

Oh, by the way, I did exactly what Scott Diamond does, I copy and pasted this. Scott is the Copy & Paste King however, if you want the perfect answer from the perfect "EXPERT."

"newly leaked"??? That was several weeks ago. Keep up!!!!!

(Where's your rotating Spam can?)

Oh, by the way, I did exactly what Scott Diamond does, I copy and pasted this. Scott is the Copy & Paste King however, if you want the perfect answer from the perfect "EXPERT."

What is that supposed to mean? Sure I copy and paste. I do so to quote from someone's post to reference what I'm responding to. I do it when someone has posted something that was better said then what I could say. I do it when refer to an authoritative source. So what's the big deal?

The ONLY way for America to Win is for them BOTH to lose !!!.
Sorry, but that's how it's seen over here...
You think our politicos stretch the truth..... that is the correct view .


First I am a born and bred New Yorker. I was born in Manhattan and grew up in Manhattan and Brooklyn. I've lived in the greater NY area all my life. Trump does NOT embody the traits of real New Yorkers. He is egotistical and egomaniacal. He lives in a fantasy world of his own making.

Sure he speaks his mind, unfortunately that mind is out of touch with reality. Its one thing to have the courage to speak one's mind. It is another thing to just utter things that don't make sense, that are outright falsehoods and worse.

Sure there are good points to having a president who is an outsider, not a career politician. But Trump is not the person for that. He does not have the temperament to function as this country's chief executive. A Trump presidency will make the US the laughing stock of the world. He will not be able to get any of his policies through because Congress will not work with him. And most of his policies will set the US and the economy back 20years or more.

As for Hillary's alleged criminal acts, she has never even been indicted for anything. Yes she has made a number of bad decisions but I don't see anything truly criminal. The fraud of Trump University, the illegal solicitation of funds for Trump Foundation, the several unethical dealing with suppliers and contractors are more criminal in my view. Given a choice between someone who has made a career of public service and someone who has made a career of self aggrandizement, I'm going to pick the public servant. I am totally and completely convinced that a Trump presidency will be a real disaster for this country. I am not convinced that a Clinton presidency will move this country forward, but it won't be disaster Trump WILL be.

Oh and about WikiLeaks, There is more than ample evidence that those leaks are being orchestrated by the Russian government. that the Russian government wants so badly to have Trump as president is almost reason enough to vote for Hillary.
are the emails not true ? Nobody in the Clinton campaign denies the accuracy of them. The Clinton's run a criminal organization and Trump is not qualified . I wrote in a candidate for President on my absentee ballot .


Hello c,

I'm not a Hillary fan, but she's gonna get my vote because of the 3 or 4 Supreme Court seats she's gonna fill.. Presidents, bad or good, only impact the country for a decade or so.. The Supreme Court that she'll pick will impact the nation for a century...

Let me be specific. If Trump wins, his Supreme Court will, outlaw abortion, outlaw gay marriage, reinstate the ban on gays in the military, put the final nail in the Voting Rights Act, and insert more and more Christianity into our NON Christian system..

Hillary's Supreme Court, on the other hand, will SAVE a woman's right to choose, overturn Heller, overturn Citizens United, and STRENGTHEN the Voting Rights Act..

Those are just the highlights, but they're BIG highlights.

excon

To answer your question on another post ......Hillary' s SCOTUS will overturn the 1st and 2nd amendments. They will codify the Obama power grabs effectively nullifying the 1st and 2nd Articles to the Constitution.

Hillary on Video with her tribute to a well known Klansman... because we know that mantra, once a Klansman, always a Klansman.

just a counter to the Trump kkk connection- YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4wo9nqWrwE)


More proof Hillary is a highly unstable individual...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NfFAaPZqs8

I've actually witnessed one of her minor meltdowns off camera.

Hillary on Video with her tribute to a well known Klansman... because we know that mantra, once a Klansman, always a Klansman.

just a counter to the Trump kkk connection- YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4wo9nqWrwE)
briefly [for only a year] a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, but later left the group and denounced racial intolerance. [He] said [it] had basically become a money-making organization, which never physically inflicted violence on anyone while he was a member. After he raised several ranks within the group, Byrd lost interest and stopped paying his dues.[B] He would later refer to his time with the KKK as "the most egregious mistake I've ever made."

http://www.biography.com/people/robert-c-byrd-579660

More proof Hillary is a highly unstable individual...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NfFAaPZqs8

I've actually witnessed one of her minor meltdowns off camera.
Where's the visual and audio evidence? No one had a working smartphone?

briefly [for only a year] a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, but later left the group and denounced racial intolerance. [He] said [it] had basically become a money-making organization, which never physically inflicted violence on anyone while he was a member. After he raised several ranks within the group, Byrd lost interest and stopped paying his dues.[B] He would later refer to his time with the KKK as "the most egregious mistake I've ever made."

http://www.biography.com/people/robert-c-byrd-579660

Yeah, yeah yeah... He was in it for a lot longer than a year... and if Repbulicans are going to be hounded the rest of their lives, so will Democrats. Nixon Erased 10 minutes of tape and look how he was treated... Hillary does lots of things thousands of times worse and people who don't even know her rationalizes it and try to minimalize it or flat out cover it up.

Well being IN the Klan is a million times worse than receiving donations from someone in it and being hounded for it for months like Trump was...

Yeah, yeah yeah... He was in it for a lot longer than a year...
Your proof? documentation?

Hillary does lots of things thousands of times worse and people who don't even know her rationalizes it and try to minimalize it or flat out cover it up.
How many male crotches and butts has she grabbed? How many undressed and half-dressed young males has she oogled during pageants? Why haven't we seen her tax forms? -- oooops, we have, for years. How much bullying/cyberbullying is she guilty of? How many contractors has she stiffed? Shall I go on? (And remember, dear smoothy, I'm a Republican who had great hopes for Trump.)

Where's the visual and audio evidence? No one had a working smartphone?

You are voting for Hillary aren't you Wondergirl?

Didn't you see what happened to reporters who didn't toe the line when Obama was running... they got thown off the bus and the plane... what do you think whould have happened to a reporter who recorded one of her meltdowns... because there are very real, anyone who woked in the WHitehouse during Bills two terms knows it, anyone who has been around her as a "senator" knows it... anyone in the State Department knows it... in fact it very well known in Washington. THere are't a "handfull" of people who do... its well known.

I've seen a MINOR meltdown of hers with my own eyes once... I personally know people that had to put up with her crap because there were in the Military and couldn't just quit or leave... I actually knew more than a few personally.

But in all reality... do you think people are just allowed to even have cell phones everyplace the go, all the time? No they aren't, you have to turn them off and lock them in a security locker during a lot of this stuff because someone MIGHT record something. There are a lot you can't carry ANY recording devices into OR even thumb drives. Even the people working there... and certainly visitors are held to even higher standards and searched just like at airports. SO you can't even hide it.


The main cameras are really pretty clear when they are rolling if you have ever seen any, they AREN'T like your handeld camcorder. They are as big as or bigger than your typical VHS home camcorder was in the early 80's. Just way more powerful.

And nobody called her stupid....she is an evil vile creature....but she is NOT a dumb one. She knows when the camera is rolling to put on a fake smile.....

There WAS a Youtube video that had her going off ranting and swearing, audio only , I can't claim finding it, someone else did....but the day after I saw it Youtube had taken the video down for some reason two days ago. So stuff did and probably does still exist out there.



Some of what I quickly dug up about her...


Secret service agent telling his story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbJe-Yelp-I

And that wasn't the only one who spoke out publically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5VlGn5omv8

And another..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JznuJqG1e-w

I've heard a LOT of stories that were never told publicly by a long time friend of mine who I trust implicitly who worked there and saw them first hand and he was someone who was one of the people that travel everywhere with the person in office during their time there. As they were told in confidence I won't repeat them.

You are voting for Hillary aren't you Wondergirl?
I haven't said whom I VOTED (past tense) for.

Please answer my questions in my earlier post.

Why is it all (unproven accusations) on Hillary when we've seen and heard Trump damn himself?


Didn't you see what happened to reporters who didn't toe the line when Obama was running... they got thown off the bus and the plane... what do you think whould have happened to a reporter who recorded one of her meltdowns... because there are very real, anyone who woked in the WHitehouse during Bills two terms knows it, anyone who has been around her as a "senator" knows it... anyone in the State Department knows it... in fact it very well known in Washington. THere are't a "handfull" of people who do... its well known.

I've seen a MINOR meltdown of hers with my own eyes once... I personally know people that had to put up with her crap because there were in the Military and couldn't just quit or leave... I actually knew more than a few personally.
No one is allowed to have a meltdown? You've traveled to Italy and never saw one? You've never had one? I have. And you offer no documentation for Hillary's "meltdowns." Just hearsay. Or do you mean anger? (Apparently, we nasty women have meltdowns, like three-year-olds. Men simply get angry.)


But in all reality... do you think people are just allowed to even have cell phones everyplace the go, all the time? No they aren't, you have to turn them off and lock them in a security locker during a lot of this stuff because someone MIGHT record something. There are a lot you can't carry ANY recording devices into OR even thumb drives. Even the people working there... and certainly visitors are held to even higher standards and searched just like at airports. SO you can't even hide it.

THe main cameras are really pretty clear when they are rolling if you have ever seen any, they AREN'T like your handeld camcorder. They are as big as or bigger than your typical VHS home camcorder was in the early 80's. Just way more powerful.
Sorry. That doesn't wash with me. NEVER has there been any sign/premonition of a meltdown. Alex Jones is whispering in your ear.

I haven't said whom I VOTED (past tense) for.

Please answer my questions in my earlier post.

Why is it all (unproven accusations) on Hillary when we've seen and heard Trump damn himself?


No one is allowed to have a meltdown? You've traveled to Italy and never saw one? You've never had one? I have. And you offer no documentation for Hillary's "meltdowns." Just hearsay. Or do you mean anger? (Apparently, we nasty women have meltdowns, like three-year-olds. Men simply get angry.)


Sorry. That doesn't wash with me. NEVER has there been any sign/premonition of a meltdown. Alex Jones is whispering in your ear., Why? I haven't seen Trump say anything out of line... Hillary has has, time and time and time again. The AmericKan successors to PRAVDA, so out of their way to campaign and protect Hillary as they did for Obama... because heaven forbid A democrat get the same treatment a Republican gets.

Hillarys Meltdowns are an almost daily Event, and NOT a secret to anyone in Washington. Certainly NOT anyone in the Secret Service... and not the rare isolated ones you seem to believe they are. And there has been more than a "sign" of a meltdown... her incessant ranting, and the worst when confronted about the Deaths in Benghazi she LIED about for two weeks.. in her SHrill voice, "...What difference does it make?" Well the Families of those four dead Americans know what difference it makes... particularly when being lied to.

Anyone who isn't Pro-Hillary and Anti-Trump its pretty obvious to. And I offered NUMEROUS proof of her meltdowns. By others who worked there and say them personally... Secret Service Agents who are far more credible than any partisan hack that claims to be a journalist who have no standard of integrity they are required to follow.

Interviews of ex Secret service people who worked there.....none are proven to be fakers, and none of them have been disproven by anyone credible.

I've spent enough time there personally to hear a lot of stories from numerous people who worked there myself, under several administrations. Other than my friend I trust implicitly...who I used to work for. He substantiates everything those secret service agentys said because she saw that and more himself.

There is a huge difference between getting upset on rare occasions, and almost anything sending you off on tirades and rages which is what they ALL said about Hillary. Anyone who spends time around her knows she also is a heavy drinker....

, Why? I haven't seen Trump say anything out of line...
Whaaaaaat??? You didn't see him trying to kiss the little black girl on the mouth and her pushing him away? You didn't see him grab Miss Finland's butt? You haven't heard all his racist and misogynist comments and saw him when he made fun of the disabled journalist? Where you been, Willis?

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Okay, Kellyanne.

Whaaaaaat??? You didn't see him trying to kiss the little black girl on the mouth and her pushing him away? You didn't see him grab Miss Finland's butt? You haven't heard all his racist and misogynist comments and saw him when he made fun of the disabled journalist? Where you been, Willis?And who reported these... Media who were glowing to Hillary, you betcha,

Did you believe the media version of the highly edited 911 tape with the Trayvon martin shooting... but discount the UNEDITED one that was later made public?

Remember the slanderous claims Dan Rather made about Bush, then fabricated "evidence to back teh false story, then was thrown under the bus when the truth came out tp protect higher ups in CBS.

You were old enough to remember CNN news coverage of Desert Shield and Desert Storm....How accurate do you think those news reports were?

Ask me this time next year and I can tell you some stories about that.....25 years will have expired and I can tell you.

And who reported these... Media who were glowing to Hillary, you betcha,
I saw him doing them live, except for Miss Finland.

I saw him doing them live, except for Miss Finland.

Did you believe the media version of the highly edited 911 tape with the Trayvon martin shooting... or the UNEDITED one that was later made public? What you see or hear or read is not always exactly what happened.

A LOT ( and I do mean LOT) of women get touchy feely with people they are not in a relationship with....how is that any different. I am nobody of real importance...yet I've had it happen to me from women I just met...some were clearly married.

Because it really wasn't anything that meant anything to most people, except a few looking for fault.

Did you believe the media version of the highly edited 911 tape with the Trayvon martin shooting... or the UNEDITED one that was later made public?
We're talking about Trump live. Stay on topic, please.

And you believe a "Live Feed" really is live? Hate to tell you EVERYTHING goes through post production before airing... "live just happens MUCH faster"

Good friend is a CEO of a company who does this for a living.....I was close to their operations since 1997. How close I won't go into online.

And you believe a "Live Feed" really is live? Hate to tell you EVERYTHING goes through post production before airing... "live just happens MUCH faster"
So The Donald didn't do any of that. And you'd leave him alone in a room with your wife. Yeah, right.

Why? I haven't seen Trump say anything out of line...
I saw Trump make a boldfaced lie that he did not say he was smart for not paying taxes less than an hour after I witnessed him saying it.
What about his attack against the Khans who's son died in Iraq. Or the judge who ruled against him.

And don't try to deflect it by citing Hillary's gaffes. If you claim to not have seen Trump be out of line, then you are not paying attention which makes your remarks unqualified.

They revealed that Trump's wife made over $20,000 from modeling before she was legally allowed to work in the U.S. It would be so embarrassing to have a gold digger who can barely speak English being the first lady.

Since someone saw fit to disparage Trumps wife because she isn't a butt ugly hag. She isn't a good looking airhead either.

How many languages do you speak... how many languages did the Hildebeast speak, how many does Obama Speak? One and not even that one all that well?

Trumps wife is fluent in FIVE languages. In addition to her native Slovenian, Trump speaks four other languages: English, French, Serbian and German.