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Nicodem Lihts
Oct 12, 2016, 02:58 PM
Hello, I am 16 year old Cameroonian, I want to be adopted by a US citizen, but it is complicated and I have some questions and I would really be distressed if you answer me personally; 1) My dad is dead and my mum is married to another man with 4 children, and this making me have a stepdad, but she and her husband are still surviving parents, who are so poor that they cant finance the needs of their own child, so what about me. So I wanted to know if though my mum is wedded, I am still defined as an orphan under US law or can I still get adopted normally? 2) Do I need my mum's concern to get adopted, since I am 16, the person who wants to adopt want that we should do it under US Law, so I will first have to immigrate to the US with and get adopted there, this is possible? Yes, how?

J_9
Oct 12, 2016, 03:22 PM
Since you have a legal living parent, you cannot be adopted. Your parents may be poor, but you are not an orphan.

To be adopted your mother would have to abandon you. With that said, few people want to adopt teenagers, they want to adopt babies or very young children.

joypulv
Oct 12, 2016, 03:52 PM
It's true - people want to adopt babies. And it's a long, complicated, expensive process. You write good English and know about computers. Is there any way you can give lessons in both in your city or town, to help with family expenses, and save a little for your future?

Fr_Chuck
Oct 12, 2016, 05:10 PM
You are not a orphan, you have a mother, her being married or not married is not an issue of this.

Your mother would have to agree (and perhaps her husband in your country) to allow an adoption. But there is no one that is going to adopt a 16 year old, they want babies or at least very small children.

Next if you did find someone, they would have to travel at least twice to your country and arrange for the adoption. The process can take at least one year and two or more years is not uncommon.

ScottGem
Oct 12, 2016, 05:41 PM
the person who wants to adopt want that we should do it under US Law

That sounds like you have someone who is agreeing to adopt you. I would be very cautious about this being a scam. I can't imagine someone wanting to adopt a 16 yr old. But for you to be able to emigrate to the US, you need to get a Visa and that means a sponsor.

Cat1864
Oct 12, 2016, 06:40 PM
This link to the Cameroon page of the Intercountry Adoption site from the US Department of State may answer many of your questions: https://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/country-information/learn-about-a-country/cameroon.html

There are many requirements for the adopting parents (they prefer couples) including age, health, staying in the country for three months, etc.

Your mother would have to agree to agree to the adoption and sign legal documents.

Alty
Oct 12, 2016, 11:25 PM
Great link Cat. Based on this the original poster has a lot of paperwork, and legal issues to deal with if he hopes to be adopted to a US couple. Not going to be easy, and likely not possible. This could take years, and that's if his mother is willing to give him up for adoption, and the greater if is adoptive parents that want to adopt a teenager that's almost an adult and will likely be an adult once the adoption is finalized.

This will cost the adoptive parents a lot of money, time and travel. Not likely to happen to adopt a child that's already 16.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
I am 16, from cameroon, male, I recently met a man online, and told him my present life suituation, and he decided that he will help me, but when I told him I want to live in the US for the rest of my life, we agreed that he's going to adopt me. My dad is dead, and my mum married, but I talked about it to my mum and she agrees that she will give her consent document so I can be adopted. Since I cant be define an orphan by US law if I try to get adopted in my country, the man and I decided that he will come take me here, and we go and I get adopted in the US under US law, I told him about how my familly is, but he said ; I can come get adopted there, and that it depends per your request. 1)Is it possible that (considering that I am 16 and him 36) I go to the US with him and get adopted? How? What type of visa do I need in this case? 2) what type of document will my mum ( and perhaps her husband) need to make in order for me to get adopted this way? 3) how can I get adopted under US law in this case? And what type of request will permit such an adoption under US law?

J_9
Oct 13, 2016, 07:42 PM
Most likely this is a sexual predator.

At your age adoption isn't going to happen, especially since you already live with a biological parent. You are not an orphan, so this sick person, or anyone, cannot adopt you.

kcomissiong
Oct 13, 2016, 08:45 PM
I am 16, from cameroon, male, I recently met a man online, and told him my present life suituation, and he decided that he will help me, but when I told him I want to live in the US for the rest of my life, we agreed that he's going to adopt me. My dad is dead, and my mum married, but I talked about it to my mum and she agrees that she will give her consent document so I can be adopted. Since I cant be define an orphan by US law if I try to get adopted in my country, the man and I decided that he will come take me here, and we go and I get adopted in the US under US law, I told him about how my familly is, but he said ; I can come get adopted there, and that it depends per your request. 1)Is it possible that (considering that I am 16 and him 36) I go to the US with him and get adopted? How? What type of visa do I need in this case? 2) what type of document will my mum ( and perhaps her husband) need to make in order for me to get adopted this way? 3) how can I get adopted under US law in this case? And what type of request will permit such an adoption under US law?

I know that you feel your situation is desperate, but this is not an avenue that is going to provide you with a solution. This man is a predator, intending to traffic you or prey on you sexually. The US is not going to allow this adoption of a 16 year old by a 36 year old man who went trolling on the internet to find a victim. Please listen to the previous posters, you are being set up here, and this is not going to be a solution to your problems. This man cannot adopt you.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 13, 2016, 09:16 PM
See I know he is bisexual and I too I am, so I don't care if sex is included, But my problem is to know, if he can adopt me, because he is going to come take me with his attorney Adoption is just what we want to do, so that I will be permanent resident of the usa How can we migrate, what are the documents he has to submit either to the US embassy here in my cameroon before we immigrate? What type of visa will I need?

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 13, 2016, 09:23 PM
See I know he is bisexual and I too I am, so I don't care if sex is included, But my problem is to know, if he can adopt me, because he is going to come take me with his attorney Adoption is just what we want to do, so that I will be permanent resident of the usa How can we migrate, what are the documents he has to submit either to the US embassy here in my cameroon before we immigrate? What type of visa will I need? And if adoption isn't possible, what can we do in order to imigrate together, should I take a study visa?

ScottGem
Oct 14, 2016, 02:23 AM
Please don't start multiple threads. Just reply to this thread.

If this man is trying to lure you to the US for sex, that is illegal. You are a minor and this man is a predator. If he sponsors you for a Visa he will be arrested.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 04:13 AM
What if we forget about sex and consider the fact I want to live with him so I will realise my dreams and get us citizenship, and that's why we wanted an adoption, forgeting about sex, he can still get me to the usa, right? How? And why did you say he will be arrested if he sponsors me?

joypulv
Oct 14, 2016, 04:29 AM
The US is very strict about any matters pertaining to children, whether it's about adoption or sex or anything at all. You are a child until your 18th birthday, after which you have all the freedoms of adulthood. It could take that long for him to sponsor you to come here. It could take longer.

smoothy
Oct 14, 2016, 04:32 AM
We don't "forget about" the obvious. The police won't, the INS won't. The more you push this the more red flags are waving. The more red flags are waving the less likely it will ever happen, and it was unlikely from the start. He's an Adult you are a minor, there is no such thing as consent in this country in such cases. And besides everything about this sounds more like attempted Immigration fraud. And even if it DID make it as far as that..he would use stall tactics to make sure if you didn't do exactly what he wanted, when he wanted, you would not have what you wanted and would likely be sent back.

Trafficking is not uncommon in the world. Not even in the more developed and wealthy nations.

ScottGem
Oct 14, 2016, 05:03 AM
What if we forget about sex and consider the fact I want to live with him so I will realise my dreams and get us citizenship, and that's why we wanted an adoption, forgeting about sex, he can still get me to the usa, right? How? And why did you say he will be arrested if he sponsors me?

You don't really get it do you. This guy is a predator. He wants a sex slave, not an adopted child. It is unlikely you can get a Visa without his sponsorship. You will need to show that you have the ability to support yourself to come here. Or that you will have been accepted by a school for a student visa. If he tries to sponsor you, Immigration will look at him closely and they will find out he is trying to get you here for sex.

It just ain't going to happen.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 06:03 AM
Forget about sex, if you say so, does it mean someone to help me realise my dream is impossible? This is what I ask him when I met him for the first time: "Hi, i am 16, from cameroon africa, I ve a dream i wanna realise and i need someone to help me -how can i help you? You can help me by helping me come into the usa, i live with you( like brother, son or whatever), you help me finance my studies and you help me get usa citizenship." This is how we discussed before we did such a plan of adoption. Ok if you say he is a predator or whatever, but is it possible that a us citizen help me realise that dream without an adoption? and explain how someone can help me realise that dream, because I really need someone to help me do that because I want a new life?

ScottGem
Oct 14, 2016, 08:18 AM
I would say its very unlikely. I would look for international organization that sponsor immigration.

Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2016, 08:39 AM
This man searches the Internet for people like you who want a better life or education or wealth, especially with the bait being travel to and citizenship in the US. I'm betting he is kind and generous so you will reveal to him your location and contact information. Your future with him "helping" is NOT citizenship but instead sex slavery in some foreign country. You very likely will be confined alone or with other slaves, abused, and starved. When you are no longer useful, you will be killed.

US citizenship plus adoption is a long and expensive process, and not something a stranger will happily go through for a teenager.

joypulv
Oct 14, 2016, 09:27 AM
Sex slavery even goes on in the US. Just not as much killing at the end, although you can be injected with an overdose of heroin and dumped in a drug house, or forced to be an addict so you don't leave, or if they are done with you, you wander the streets doing anything to get drugs, until you are dead anyway.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 09:44 AM
Ok, ScottGem please search for as much as possible related international adoption and immagration

smoothy
Oct 14, 2016, 09:46 AM
Forget about sex, if you say so, does it mean someone to help me realise my dream is impossible? This is what I ask him when I met him for the first time: "Hi, i am 16, from cameroon africa, I ve a dream i wanna realise and i need someone to help me -how can i help you? You can help me by helping me come into the usa, i live with you( like brother, son or whatever), you help me finance my studies and you help me get usa citizenship." This is how we discussed before we did such a plan of adoption. Ok if you say he is a predator or whatever, but is it possible that a us citizen help me realise that dream without an adoption? and explain how someone can help me realise that dream, because I really need someone to help me do that because I want a new life?

You are 16, two years from being an independent adult... it will cost a LOT of money. That's money that person won't have for their own retirement of future needs when they get older.

Adopting a young child that isn't important. But look at this realistically, this will cost tens of thousands of dollars, many times that if you include an education... for who, someone they don't know, who won't be there long before being an adult... sorry, but the reality is... nobody in their right mind is going to do that out of the goodness of their heart. It takes a LOT of years and hard work to save that money to give it away. Anyone who says they WILL do this at your age is either mentally ill, telling lies... or has an ulterior motive, and not a nice one.

Only a truly wealthy person could afford that out of kindness... and anyone else couldn't afford to do it and Wealthy people didn't get that way by being foolish with their money. I'm willing to believe you are honest with your intentions and desires... but I know people pretty well, and this goes well beyond normal hospitality even a good natured person is going to give a stranger.

Believe me they are expecting something pretty serious for their investment...and its highly unlikely its something nice.

Cat1864
Oct 14, 2016, 10:33 AM
Repeating myself: This link to the Cameroon page of the Intercountry Adoption site from the US Department of State may answer many of your questions: https://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/country-information/learn-about-a-country/cameroon.html

US Embassy in Yaounde: https://yaounde.usembassy.gov/

Dreams come true through hard work and effort. Don't look for a short cut that could end up with you enslaved or dead. Put work into learning and gaining experience that will keep you from becoming dependent on people who might try exploiting you (or worse.)

talaniman
Oct 14, 2016, 10:36 AM
Hello my friend. First a word of warning here. Your desperation for a new life will make you a victim.

This person has no intention of helping you despite whatever promise they have made to you, and every intention to enslave you for his own gain. Second even if he does get you here, he will require you to repay his "kindness and help" not with building a life that you want, but in enriching his own life, by hiring you out to the highest bidder for whatever service they want you to perform for them, and any resistance to HIS program you will be deported.

Desperate teenagers are easy prey and it's a more common practice for parents to be PAID for their kids, NOT adopted. Adoption is a long tedious process, unless bribery and other skullduggery is used. Which brings up an interesting question... what do your parents say about you being adopted by this rich guy?

joypulv
Oct 14, 2016, 12:21 PM
Now you want ScotGem to do all sorts of searching for you? You can do the searching and you've been told over and over that it won't do any good.
You have a very naive belief that there are kindly adults out there who want to spend money on a 16 year old - they don't exist.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 02:23 PM
What my mum say is that ; when he comes here, she and him will discus, and that it is my life and that I can do whatever I want to do with it.

Alty
Oct 14, 2016, 03:14 PM
What my mum say is that ; when he comes here, she and him will discus, and that it is my life and that I can do whatever I want to do with it.

Your mom will discuss what with him? How he plans to treat you? If he wants you for sex, or wants to sell you for sex, he's not going to be honest with you or your mom about it.

Even if it were possible for him to legally adopt you, this would not end well.

You want a new life, and that's great, but don't you want a better life? If you continue with this course of action you'll be lucky to live until 20.

Do the research, find out what you need to do to come to the US on a work visa, or a school visa, and save money to be able to do it on your own. It won't be quick, but at least it will be safe.

Wondergirl
Oct 14, 2016, 03:38 PM
What my mum say is that ; when he comes here, she and him will discus
In other words, how much he will pay her for you.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 04:15 PM
You guys are suggesting that he just want to use me ? But he said he is going to bring an attorney. Ok, he is going to come here on Sunday, what sorts of questions should I ask him myself? Or how can I take note of his body language? What type of conversation can I engage with him order to make sure his a good person? Considering the fact that I am also in his same shoes ie; I knew very well that the world can be wicked and that such a plan is dangerous, but I still went ahead to ask for help, many people refused, but I never left it down. It will good to ask a question like "why will he help me?" but I myself, same like another person will think I am a liar and that I profit on the goodness of others. So now who is to be blame? After he has proved he is a good person, I move on with him, right?

smoothy
Oct 14, 2016, 04:31 PM
We have a saying in the USA... If it sounds too good to be true... it is.

Of course he is going to be on his very best behavior.. until he has you someplace you can't simply walk away from. Then you get to see his true colors.

Cat1864
Oct 14, 2016, 04:38 PM
How long have you been in contact with this person?

What information about himself has he given you that can be checked out? Please do not post the information here. Do you have his full name? Where he lives? Where he works? Family? Anything?

Have you searched for the information he has given you?

Attorneys can be just as crooked as their clients. He/she is there to protect the client who is not you or your family.

Have you looked at the links I have posted?

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 05:05 PM
Cat1864 Yeah I looked at the links, I even look at other links myself, as for infos about , yeah I did only searched about him , but I equally ask him to see if he is going to tell me the truth, and he said exactly what was on his resume and all his internet accounts. According to the type of job he does, I think money isn't his problem. Now, when he comes, how should I read is body language, how to know if his a hypocrate? Is true he might not say it, but one thing sure if I apply a psychological method, I will know, so just give any I can apply.

smoothy
Oct 14, 2016, 06:47 PM
A good con man can hide his intentions from a seasoned adult reading them... sorry but a kid just doesn't have the experience to be good at reading people really well yet. That takes a lot of years to learn, and most people never get good at it even then. I'm pretty good at it now... but I was horrible at it even when I was twice your age.

J_9
Oct 14, 2016, 07:01 PM
You need to face reality. This is not going to happen. He cannot adopt you. We have already give you the reasons.

Alty
Oct 14, 2016, 07:15 PM
You guys are suggesting that he just want to use me ? But he said he is going to bring an attorney. Ok, he is going to come here on Sunday, what sorts of questions should I ask him myself? Or how can I take note of his body language? What type of conversation can I engage with him order to make sure his a good person? Considering the fact that I am also in his same shoes ie; I knew very well that the world can be wicked and that such a plan is dangerous, but I still went ahead to ask for help, many people refused, but I never left it down. It will good to ask a question like "why will he help me?" but I myself, same like another person will think I am a liar and that I profit on the goodness of others. So now who is to be blame? After he has proved he is a good person, I move on with him, right?


What type of conversation can I engage with him order to make sure his a good person? Considering the fact that I am also in his same shoes

You're in the same shoes he's in? How is he affording all of this? Maybe he can afford it because of all the other sex slaves he has, and you're the latest?

Think about this. If you want to study in the US you have to at least be smart enough to make it happen. So use those smarts now and look at this situation without thinking about what you want. Think about this logically. Why would a 36 year old man that's in the same shoe's you're in, want to adopt a 16 year old kid from another country and make his life better, when that 36 year old can't even make his own life better?

Why would anyone want to adopt a 16 year old kid they've never met? And remember that in one of your posts you said you'd be willing to have sex with him to make a better life for yourself. How many men are you willing to have sex with and for how long, and at what cost?

You're a child and don't have the intellect to see things the way mature educated adults do. Sadly, your mother seems to be as dense as you are about this. I'm guessing it's because you don't have a lot of education when it comes to online scams and pedophiles and sex trafficking.

In the end, we can't stop you from doing this. It's not our choice, it's yours and your mothers, and once you make it, there's nothing you can do to change it. Your mom won't be able to do anything, because she won't have any legal rights to help you, even though she gave you life. She's going to have to give you up to let this pedophile take you to the US and make you a slave.

Like I said, we can't stop you. Also, when you come back and ask for help because you're being abused, there won't be anything we can do to help. The help we're giving is to stop you from doing something stupid, and this is incredibly stupid. Once it's done, there's nothing we can do to help. The help we can give, we're giving you now. Either be smart enough to listen or do what you want and live with the consequences.

I wish you luck, you'll need it. Lots of it.

Alty
Oct 14, 2016, 07:30 PM
Cat1864 Yeah I looked at the links, I even look at other links myself, as for infos about , yeah I did only searched about him , but I equally ask him to see if he is going to tell me the truth, and he said exactly what was on his resume and all his internet accounts. According to the type of job he does, I think money isn't his problem. Now, when he comes, how should I read is body language, how to know if his a hypocrate? Is true he might not say it, but one thing sure if I apply a psychological method, I will know, so just give any I can apply.

His resume? His internet accounts? The job he says he has? You don't know that anything he's saying is true.

I'm a 26 year old model, I model all over the world. I'm engaged to a well known actor in the US, if I said his name you'd know him, he's very well known. I live in Los Angeles in a home that's worth 5 million dollars, paid for by my fiancé. I make a good living modelling, and I'm going to be starring in my first movie that will come out in 2017.

Wow, that was easy. Did you believe that? I'm actually an 80 year old man from Nigeria, I have 7 kids and 20 grandkids, and even I'm more versed in internet crap than you are.

Oops, did I fool you again? I'm actually a dog, and I live in a shelter. I really want to be adopted. I'm a pitbull so I'll likely be adopted by some idiot that has no idea how to handle my breed, or I'll be forced to be in a dog fighting ring. Ya, it's illegal, but hey, it's easy to get away with illegal stuff, there are only so many people that care about this, and so many people that can actually enforce the law. My owner will just slip under the radar like millions of others.

Hahaha, nope, I'm not a dog. I'm actually a 30 year old single mom with 4 kids, all different fathers. I used to be a prostitute and drug addict, but I got clean and now I'm just doing my best to be a good mom and make my kids lives as great as I can.

That's not true. I'm actually 16 and pregnant with my second child. My boyfriend left me after I got pregnant again, but I know he'll be back because we really really really love each other. It's hard to be a teen mom, but I'm in love and that's worth everything we have to go through. I sure hope he comes back, otherwise I may lose our welfare cheques and I'll have to live on the streets.

Who am I really? Am I man, am I a woman, how old am I, is anything I say true? I mean really, it's so easy to lie online. I can be anyone I want to be, and you won't ever know the truth if I don't want you to.

If you think that you know this guy, you're a fool. Then again, you're 16, and most 16 year olds are fools when it comes to real life.

Listen to what we're telling you. Listen even though you don't want to. You will regret it if you don't listen, because I would bet money that this man does not have your interests at heart.

J_9
Oct 14, 2016, 09:24 PM
When are you going to face the truth? Adoption under your circumstances is impossible. If he offers to pay your mother money, that is human trafficking and could result in both him and your mother going to prison.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 14, 2016, 11:17 PM
Ok, you guys have told me everything there is to be conscious about. I isn't going to disturb you anymore, you gave me answers and cons. Talking about me, if I didn't know that there will be something I have know about, then why will I had created this account in order to ask this question? Any way I thank all of you ; Alty, though you said you cant do anything to stop, I thank you for the time and energy you used, to tell me this. I won't go into the details of telling you guys how my life is right now, but I will about both sides and consider each reality with it cons. Oh, I know that though you guys are cautious about the internet, let me give this in case you guy have either a twitter or Facebook account, so we may me discus directly (removed per site rules).

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 15, 2016, 06:01 AM
Hy everyone, You guys are saying he isn't that good OK. But now, someone suggested I should seek political asylum, how should I do that? I am 16 and my familly is homophobic, I don't have enough money to travel etc. Will the us embassy here accept to grant me political asylum and get me out of here if I ask them?

smoothy
Oct 15, 2016, 06:23 AM
Hy everyone, You guys are saying he isn't that good OK. But now, someone suggested I should seek political asylum, how should I do that? I am 16 and my familly is homophobic, I don't have enough money to travel etc. Will the us embassy here accept to grant me political asylum and get me out of here if I ask them?
Being Poor or just wanting a better life isn't a justification for Political Asylum.

J_9
Oct 15, 2016, 06:41 AM
Your family being homophobic isn't grounds to file for political asylum. I do believe, in order to file for asylum, you have to be on US soil, to file.

Nicodem Lihts
Oct 15, 2016, 06:45 AM
Hi Smoothy, what I mean is that I want a political asylum because I am bisexually and I have universal religious views, both of this are not accepted in my country especially, homosexuality is a crime and I have homophobic familly and am surrounded by homophobics, these don't make my life here really pretty. So I could use this reason to ask for political asylum, but if I get accepted, I will still need transport fair to get out of here. So can I demand asylum? How? And where? after I have been granted will the us embassy accept to pay my transport to us or even will give me this at my age of 16 or etc?

J_9
Oct 15, 2016, 06:49 AM
Hi Smoothy, what I mean is that I want a political asylum because I am bisexually and I have universal religious views, both of this are not accepted in my country especially, homosexuality is a crime and I have homophobic familly and am surrounded by homophobics, these don't make my life here really pretty. So I could use this reason to ask for political asylum, but if I get accepted, I will still need transport fair to get out of here. So can I demand asylum? How? And where? after I have been granted will the us embassy accept to pay my transport to us or even will give me this at my age of 16 or etc?

You have to be on American soil to apply for asylum. You have to be considered a refugee already in our country.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum