Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!

I would move on to another vet. Unless a dog has a health problem, if it is eating a decent chow and being brushed regularly, it shouldn't have an odor problem. My Lab Aster hasn't had a bath in almost 4 years and smell fine.

Emland, I agree with labman.

Too many baths dry out the natural oils in a dogs skin. Something doesn't make sense. Search out another vet.

My basset, stinks worse (you can prob. Smell him over the internet) I know that part of the prob is his ears the wax has to be cleaned out. Also my mother says it's because the anal glands need to be expressed. I am not making the connection there. But I have been told that hound just have a smell. You get used to it. Oh but when he is excited or sick (infection or virus) he really stinks it almost unbearable.

Emland, this posting is really bugging me for some reason. If your vet has "tried everything" and has charged you a fortune, I don't think the vet is doing the job you need of him/her.

Matt brings up some good points. Check inside their ears & smell them. If the foul odor is coming from there then you know the vet needs to examine them and figure out what is going on. The other thing is the anal glands as he points out. If they are full, that can smell pretty bad. The vet will need to express them. If it is as your husband suggests, from the saliva, it will be a lot more difficult to find. The food might not be appropriate for them and/or there is some sort of inherent deeper problem. Are they spade/neutered? If not, you might want to consider that.

The thing that I keep going back to in my mind is, with Pekenese, some do have odor issues. It can be caused by either one or a number of issues. An overgrowth of yeast or bacteria on the skin would create the odor, a skin infection, or they might be suffering from any number of inhalent allergies (mold, grass, dander), which also is associated with the breed. That might explain the saliva stench. Did the vet do an atopy workup --skin and/or blood test? Those should have been ruled out first. All this bathing won't get rid of something like that. If your vet has already done these things, then it would be time to find another vet and ask them about all of these possibilities. I just think your vet is missing something here.

Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!
I know what is wrong with your dog because my dog had the same problem.

You know how we smell underneath our arms after sweating, well dogs sweat in their ears and that's where the smell is coming from. Try cutting away fur from your dogs ears and keeping them clean. Dab warm water with a cotton ball and gently wipe out your dog's ears.

You can buy special cleaner for ears, its made to be extra gentle. I buy it in gallons.

I don't know what it is with some vets!!
Not all of them preform the necessary tests.

I had one miss a yeast infection that developed in the fold of my dogs skin on her lower belly. It persisted for months! They kept telling me it was a bladder infection or food allergies.
I took her to another vet which swabbed the area, looked at it under the scope, and treated her for it... Just like that the problem was solved.

My sister had a similar problem with her dogs ears. Vet told her for months that it was food allergies... After all the expensive prescription foods didn't work, she changed vets. They swabbed the ears and found a fungal infection, treated it and problem solved.

If you visit another vet, perhaps you'll get some different answers and hopefully better results...

Best wishes,
Kae

Forget all this guess work and find a better vet.

Thanks for all the advice. I am going to take them to a new vet for their annual checkup.

I will post what the new vets says when they get their annual checkup in early May.

You know, my dog stinks too. He just always smells like a dirty dog. No matter how often he gets a bath.
I have found if I get him professionally groomed, though, the smell doesn't come back as quickly.
I also feed him a good dog food that is made to improve his skin and coat. (we had an issue with dry skin this summer) and it did wonders for him.

Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!
My golden has this same problem. I have cured it once using the products from this site - NZYMES.COM: Instructions for Using NZYMES with Yeast Problems AT (http://www.nzymes.com/Articles/Instructions_for_systemic_yeast_infections.htm#Yea st_symptoms_checklist)

She now has it again and I'm treating it again. It's a long process, but it works.

Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!
Stink usually comes from dogs EARS, or DENTAL disease. Try a product called "Odor Mute" and see if the stink still comes back. Are they rolling in something outside? Smell all their toys and see if they stink.

***UPDATE***

Hubby took the dogs to the new vet today. They got their annual checkup and shots and all that stuff and she had pretty much the same advice as the last vet, except she suggested bathing them only to a month and use a mane/tail shampoo first to remove dirt and then do the prescription shampoo for the itchy skin.

She said we pretty much are going to have to find what works for us. So back to spending a fortune at Animal Jungle, I suppose.

Labman - what is your opinion of brushing my beasties' teeth?

Hello Em:

I think they stink to let you know they don't like the line of clothing you've chosen for them. They're French, you know.

excon

PS> (edited) Chinese, maybe even??

Pekingnese are Chinese - or I have always thought so. Heck, I'll find them some Doggie Dior if it will cut the stink.

I am sorry the vet couldn't be more constructive or helpful Emland. If your dogs will allow you to, you can brush their teeth. It can't hurt to give it a go. Plaque build up can cause odor problems along with gum disease. Some dogs are more prone to it than others and do need brushing along with getting their teeth professionally cleaned by the vet. So, if it isn't a major struggle, try it. If the vet ruled out any skin disorders, I have a feeling it is allergies. That can result in huge odor problems. You might want to try chalemartin's suggestion. It can't hurt.

I am sorry the vet couldn't be more constructive or helpful Emland. If your dogs will allow you to, you can brush their teeth. It can't hurt to give it a go. Plaque build up can cause odor problems along with gum disease. Some dogs are more prone to it than others and do need brushing along with getting their teeth professionally cleaned by the vet.


A very good idea. Last year I spent over 1000$ to have 12 teeth removed from my dogs mouth (don't worry he still has plenty.)

Brushing my dogs' teeth is one of those things I should do but don't. Another thing on the large list is taking a picture of 13 year old Aster's teeth and posting it to the net. They are still in very good shape. She has never had real bones to chew and always was fed dry dog food, not that she ever bothered to chew it much. She started on regular Purina, but has eaten Pro Plan chicken and rice most of her life.

I still feel a healthy dog eating a good diet, will not have an odor problem if brushed regularly. I don't include dogs with ear or dental infections in healthy dogs. Those are things a vet should find. You need nothing more sophisticated than your nose to detect an ear infection. Take a good sniff of the ears. You will know if the dog needs to see the vet. I agree with whoever mentioned rolling in stuff. If you don't keep their relief area clean, they may roll in their own feces.

They don't roll in their poop - or I have never caught them doing it and they don't smell like that. They just smell like dog - multiplied. I have heard other people with short muzzle dogs complain of itchiness and wonder if it is just a sad byproduct of over breeding. I get my pets from the pound, so breed is not important to me - their personality is what catches my attention.

Will keep trying different kibble, supplements and such and report if any are successful.

Thanks for all the suggestions and keep them coming!

Hello again, Em:

Try a teaspoon of olive oil in their kibble.

excon

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Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!

Have you tried Gold Bond Powder for the itching? I was recommended this from the owner of a dog kennel that we use. We have had luck using it. Perhaps it will work for your dogs.

Just what are these vets doing? Have they examined the ears, looked at the teeth, taken skin scrapings, blood samples, etc. Infected ears can cause a terrible doggy smell, but bathing the dog wouldn't even relieve it for a few hours. Both you and the vet should be able to localize the problem to the ears or mouth if that is where the problems is. If not, I think it is quite likely what ever is causing the itching is causing the smell too. I think it is time for a vet to do some serious work on these dogs.

I don't know what is in Gold Bond powder, but wouldn't put it on my dogs because somebody else used it on theirs. You need to find something that will cure the problem, not relieve the symptoms.

Chow based problems are not nearly as common as those selling expensive chows suggest. If you have tried a couple of different ones, giving them a month or 2 to work, and it didn't help, I doubt it is the problem.

Labman: It's only a suggestion to try Gold Bond. And if someone hadn't of suggested it to me, I probably wouldn't have used it on our pet. However, I agree with you. There is a reason why the dogs are itchy. I don't know why... I'm not a vet. But the powder may bring them relief until it is discovered.

Emland: Dogs are like people. They do develop allergies. I would start with their diet - I understand that a common food allergy for dogs is corn. You may want to check the label on your pet food. If not, could be something else they are eating. I don't know how often they go outside but dogs can also develop allergies to their environs. I would talk to your vet about that if you haven't already.

When I got the boys they both had ear infections and we have used Animax to clear it up. The vet had a camera she puts in the ear to see what is down there and is visible on a TV in the exam room. The new vet said they were clean and there is no putrid smell coming from the ears. The smell they are eminating is regular dog smell, just amplified.

They are on a new antihistimine that doesn't seem to be doing anything, but am giving it a few days to get into the system.

I'm wondering if they are allergic to our cat and if so what to do then? I won't get rid of my cat.

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Hi, I have a pom/ daschund mix that iI adopted from a shelter the first couple of yrs no problems. But last year she developed an allergy to flea bite or so the vet said... from the scratching and itching she developed a fungal infection of the skin. She smelled so bad that a bath did nothing for the odor. And she also had a ear infection, she was given a antibiotic for the ear prob. And given a steriod shot for the skin... he told me for the rest of her life she would have to take the shots every 3 weeks well that was in feb and it is now may and that was her 1 and only shot.. too many steroids can cause serious problems.. she immediately stop itching after the shot and only occasionally do I see her scratching The skin odor cleared up in about a week after the shot.. After I give her a bath in oatmeal flea soap/ I put vinegar in her final rinse water. Also her diet consist of 1/2 dry iams and 1/2 meat , brown rice and veggies. That I cook for her. Hope this helps.

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Dear Emland... I adopted an ASPCA dog with quite an odor. After several months of getting her intestines healthy, the smells is gone. I started with a top quality dog food with high antioxidants and made from bison and salmon. I added a digestive and vit/min product along with probiotics and glyconutrients for immune system support. After several months of eathing this diet, her dry skin and smell was gone. For her, it was all about having healthy intestines. After all, the skin which is the largest organ is a reflection of general health. I hope this helps... Ms C

Haven't read anyone else's response, however seems simple. Diet. Most commercial foods are awful and are the cause of the majority of health problems in dogs and cats, especially alergies.
For starters witch to a raw food diet. For more information go to my website >LINK REMOVED<
Email me if you have any questions.
Hope this helps.

Regarding:

Originally Posted by Emland
Hello fellow dog lovers,

I have a pair of 7 year old Pekingnese dogs that I got from the SPCA last June. They have dry skin and do the itchy-scratchy thing that we are still trying to diagnose. Just finished the special super-expensive prescription dog food only 6 week trial, etc.

Although the itching is annoying, they don't seem to be doing any damage to their skin. I'm wondering now if it isn't just a nervous habit of theirs. The real problem is that they Stink!

I have spent probably close to $300 in shampoos, spray on deodorants, the supplement Dynavite (they love it and made their coat silky, but didn't stop the itching like it advertised) and all other various odor remedies found at Petsmart and online.

My husband thinks we are actually smelling their saliva getting spread around on their coat from the itchy problem. I think some dogs just smell. He is more sensitive to it than I am and since we don't let them on the furniture or bed, I don't care. He does and complains everday and is driving me nutz.

I am hoping you smart folks out there can make a suggestion for my doggies body odor problem. (We are bathing them once a week per vet's instructions w/prescription shampoo now - the stink is back by that evening.)

Thanks!

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Hi, all :
I have a male peke almost 3 years now. Very well maintained.
When I first got him he stunk. Couldn't figure it out.. started all
The shampoo remedies twice a week, then down to one week , now
Twice a year. Only to find out all the shampooing caused the dry skin,
That caused him to continue to scratch.
The other thing I notice, although he was treated for fleas before he was
Given to me, I found ONE flea still lingering in his tail 6 months . Later after
He kept trying to tell me "spinning around in circles , like-trying to catch his tail,something was wrong". That's when I thoroughly went through his tail and saw the one flea lingering, and got him. No problems every since.

The other thing I did is GO GREEN completely.
I use ALL washing detergents, no perfume or other ingredients to irritate my skin
And his too. Helps everyone.

Cleaning products SIMPLE GREEN at BIG LOTS about 2 bucks. Is also good for cleaning.
It is bio-degradable meaning no chemicals blah blah blah.

The last ultimate on the stink issue.
I found that pekes have a eye goo issue that's part of their trait.
If you put your nose to their eyes IT STINKS.
It holds bacteria. Its kind of like a red discharge.

My peke has a black mask. So you can't see the red debris in his face,
But sure can smell it if it sits there.

Well I came to the conclusion to put bowl of small was cloths and water USING OATMEAL SHAMPOO (for dry sensitive skin dogs) and light soap the cloth and specifically wiping his face twice a day. And now NO STINK.

I currently have no problems , he bathes 2 times a year (with oatmeal shampoo only), I do keep him cut short,well groomed -with a pom pom looking bushy tail to keep matting down.
And everyone loves his look, and says he looks sharp and happy.

So, you may want to try the above.. I do make sure I at least just run the soft cloth across his eyes once or twice a day to remove the goo goos out of his eyes, cause if you don't it will cause ulcers,other eye infections, and BACTERIA STINK.

Your dog will tell you what is wrong or bothering him/her if you observe his behavior closely.

Hope this helps...

I have a 7 year old black lab that never smelled, never had fleas UNTIL we put in a swimming pool this August. Although she has not "snuck in" to swim in over 4 weeks, she stinks horrible. Is there any natural bathing items I can use to get stinky girl back on track or would just regular dog shampoo help. Its not her ears, its definitely her hair!
Thanks in advance.