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jaberwackey1776
Jul 7, 2015, 05:49 PM
If you cook sausage in beer, would the beer show up in a urine screening the next day??

smoothy
Jul 7, 2015, 06:53 PM
If you are prohibited from using alcohol... why don't you just avoid using it. Its really not hard. If you find yourself being unable to that's proof enough you have a serious problem that needs addressing ASAP.

J_9
Jul 7, 2015, 07:09 PM
No. The alcohol is cooked out.

Alty
Jul 7, 2015, 07:29 PM
I agree with J9. When cooking with alcohol you get a different flavor, but the alcohol itself is cooked out.

catonsville
Jul 7, 2015, 07:30 PM
If you are prohibited from using alcohol... why don't you just avoid using it. Its really not hard. If you find yourself being unable to that's proof enough you have a serious problem that needs addressing ASAP.

I agree with you Smoothy. What I don't understand is, why does this site help people with Booze and Drug problems by mainly giving them information that may help them to get around the legalities of the law?

Alty
Jul 7, 2015, 07:31 PM
If you are prohibited from using alcohol... why don't you just avoid using it. Its really not hard. If you find yourself being unable to that's proof enough you have a serious problem that needs addressing ASAP.

Just have to say Smoothy. Cooking with alcohol does not mean you're an alcoholic or have issues with alcohol. Cooking with alcohol is actually very well known, and a very delicious way to cook. Cooking with beer makes meat juicier, more flavorful, and the alcohol is cooked out.

I don't see this as a serious problem, I see this as a regular person asking if they can have a bbq and enjoy the food being served.

J_9
Jul 7, 2015, 07:33 PM
I agree with you Smoothy. What I don't understand is, why does this site help people with Booze and Drug problems by mainly giving them information that may help them to get around the legalities of the law?We frown on assisting people who wish to circumvent the system. However, in this case, the OP isn't drinking alcohol and asking how to pass a test. Rather, he/she is asking about cooking with alcohol. There is a BIG difference.

catonsville
Jul 7, 2015, 07:38 PM
We frown on assisting people who wish to circumvent the system. However, in this case, the OP isn't drinking alcohol and asking how to pass a test. Rather, he/she is asking about cooking with alcohol. There is a BIG difference.

Your point is accepted in this case, but there have been many question that could be considered helping them to circumvent the system, that is what I was trying to point out to Smoothy.

J_9
Jul 7, 2015, 07:38 PM
Just have to say Smoothy. Cooking with alcohol does not mean you're an alcoholic or have issues with alcohol. Cooking with alcohol is actually very well known, and a very delicious way to cook. Cooking with beer makes meat juicier, more flavorful, and the alcohol is cooked out.

I don't see this as a serious problem, I see this as a regular person asking if they can have a bbq and enjoy the food being served.
I have to agree with Alty. I frequently cook with alcohol. Beer Can Chicken, Chicken Delicious (wine), Beef Burgundy (again wine), and many other recipes. I have more that I use alcohol than don't. And guess what! I serve it to my children! God forbid!

Try Chicken Delicious without the wine... blech!

Does this mean my children and I have an alcohol problem?

J_9
Jul 7, 2015, 07:45 PM
Your point is accepted in this case, but there have been many question that could be considered helping them to circumvent the system, that is what I was trying to point out to Smoothy.
TBH, you weren't pointing anything out to Smoothy, you were agreeing with him that the OP has a drinking problem because he/she wishes too cook with alcohol.

Just because a person asks a question about passing a test, it doesn't mean they necessarily have a problem. I'm a casual drinker and recently went through this as a condition of new employment.

We we have to stop lumping people into one group. You know what happens when you ASSUME?

catonsville
Jul 7, 2015, 08:06 PM
TBH, you weren't pointing anything out to Smoothy, you were agreeing with him that the OP has a drinking problem because he/she wishes too cook with alcohol.

Just because a person asks a question about passing a test, it doesn't mean they necessarily have a problem. I'm a casual drinker and recently went through this as a condition of new employment.

We we have to stop lumping people into one group. You know what happens when you ASSUME?

I know it is pointless to question you guys and gals. So let it go, no need to gang up on me. I was talking to Smoothy.

J_9
Jul 7, 2015, 08:15 PM
No one is "ganging up" on anyone. The point is that not everyone who asks a question about alcohol consumption has an alcohol addiction.

catonsville
Jul 7, 2015, 08:21 PM
No one is "ganging up" on anyone. The point is that not everyone who asks a question about alcohol consumption has an alcohol addiction.

Apparently no one noticed the (IF) at the beginning of Smoothy's post. I will let Smoothy defend his post if he wishes.
He went on and said what would be necessary (IF) the OP was facing a problem that is what I believe.

smoothy
Jul 7, 2015, 08:39 PM
Just have to say Smoothy. Cooking with alcohol does not mean you're an alcoholic or have issues with alcohol. Cooking with alcohol is actually very well known, and a very delicious way to cook. Cooking with beer makes meat juicier, more flavorful, and the alcohol is cooked out.

I don't see this as a serious problem, I see this as a regular person asking if they can have a bbq and enjoy the food being served.

If they are subject to random testing when they have to be afraid of passing the test then it does. Particularly if they NEED to do it anyway. And I'm not talking about routine job related tests. Regular people don't have to worry about it. And I'm speaking as someone thats had random workplace testing as part of my job for nearly 3 decades.

Most of it would have cooked out... but unlikely ALL of it did. Turns out a lot does flash off fairly quick but the rest does take significantly longer.

Cat1864
Jul 8, 2015, 06:14 AM
From what I have been reading, it isn't as simple as add heat and alcohol disappears. Apparently there have been a couple of studies done that show depending on cooking method and length of time the amount of alcohol remaining varies from most to very little.

The "article" I am linking to has a chart from the US Department of Agriculture’s Nutrient Data Laboratory's study.

Does alcohol burn off in cooking? (http://ochef.com/165.htm)

Some factors that might influence how much is left: How were the sausages cooked in the beer? How much beer was used? How much alcohol content was in the beer? What type/size of pot was used?

One aspect I haven't found any information on, yet, is how much alcohol the meat in the liquid might have soaked up. I doubt it would be very much, though. More than likely you will be okay as long as you didn't drink the cooking liquid or had anything else with alcohol in it.

CravenMorhead
Jul 8, 2015, 07:55 AM
I agree with you Smoothy. What I don't understand is, why does this site help people with Booze and Drug problems by mainly giving them information that may help them to get around the legalities of the law?

Hi!

Everyone here agrees with smoothy!

What you're missing here is the entire point of this site, aptly named "www.askmehelpdesk.com", we answer questions. If someone asks:
I am on probation, drank a 5th of vodka, and have a EtG test tomorrow, will I pass?
We will laugh and say no, the time limit is 60-80 hours. It someone asks:
"Hi! I have poor impulse control, am a train conductor, am randomly tested for alcohol use, and want to drink a 5th of gin. How can I do this and pass the test?
We will laugh again, but say, "Figure it out on your own. We're not going to help you pass the test."

The information is out there, and it's easily found if you know what to look for. Sadly not everyone has our talent and skill with the interwebs so they find sites like this and ask. Usually in a panic because they believe their lives are about to be screwed up. So we answer the questions in the nature of the site.

We try not to be judgemental, and it's hard some days let me tell you, but we need to answer the question. We also, if you look through a good number of questions, plant the thought of "Well what happens if you fail? Are you going jail? Lose custody of your kids? Get fired? IS it worth it?" Get them to think about what they've done and work for a better future for them. That is the jewel of answer these questions. If they take away how to cheat the test that is their problem. If they take away that there is help and sobreity, even only for a period, isn't hard and is less stressful, then we succeeded.

Sadly we can only lead them to the water, they must drink on their own.

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To the OP. Alcohol is cooked off, but it is cooked off at a slower rate then is commonly advertised. Please read [this] (http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/11/alcohol-doesnt-really-cook-out-of-food-in-most-cases/). Some remains and that's the problem in your case. Depending on how much remained after your cooking you could test positive. Depending. I would give it about even odds to be honest.

I would shy away from alcohol sauces/cooking until your period of required sobriety is over.

talaniman
Jul 8, 2015, 08:33 AM
Why stress? If it makes you worry about passing an alcohol/drug test, simply don't do it. Explore better options for flavoring your meals (Just in case). The priority is passing the tests, and staying within the boundaries of good SMART behavior that promotes that end.