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xjterry
Jun 21, 2015, 04:07 PM
I broke up with my fiancée. I am 33 and he is 35. We were together for 6 years and the last 2 we were engaged. I was the one that left the house because the last months he was has pressure from his job and also he was telling me that I was putting pressure on him. He didn't want to talk with me and when I was trying to make conversations he was telling that I was nagging and he was leaving.
The day that I left I was calling him to bring some stuff home.I called him around 3 times and he didn't pick up the phone and the fourth time that he answered it, when I asked him were are you he started screaming at me, then he came home he broke up my mobile and he continue to scream and telling me now I will see how you are going to call me. He made me really upset and I told him that it is enough and I am leaving. He didn't do anything and he left from the house. I took some stuff and I left and came to my parent’s house.
That happened on 26th of May. After 5 days he deleted me from fb and put on that he is single. He didn't try to contact me and I didn't contact him as well. After 17 days he came at my parent;s garden and he left bags with my clothes and other stuff, and he called my brother to tell him that he left at the garden my stuff.Again he didn’t contact me.
24 days after I left the house and a week after he brought my stuff he contacted me for the fisrt time by a text in which he was writing next week I will bring you some of your furniture...
I called him 2 days later but he didn't answer the phone...
Any ideas please?

Wondergirl
Jun 21, 2015, 04:27 PM
Ideas about what? It sounds like he has permanently broken up with you and wants nothing to do with you. There are no mixed messages. It's perfectly clear.

Jake2008
Jun 21, 2015, 06:16 PM
I agree that if you're asking for ideas as to if he's interested in re-kindling the relationship, I'd say you are fooling yourself. And, consider yourself lucky to boot.

I doubt that the pressure of his job, or you nagging explains everything anyway. Couples who communicate well, in good times and bad, don't stop talking when the going gets rough- they get through it together.

That you didn't have even that as a foundation for your relationship, is an even bigger red flag that it was going to fail, than the excuses he gave you.

Let it go, and don't look back.

talaniman
Jun 21, 2015, 06:26 PM
I think he has been looking for a way out for a long time. Sorry you were the last to know. You are free, that's all that matters.

xjterry
Jun 21, 2015, 06:43 PM
What I want at least is to talk with me. He did all these things and he is avoiding to talk with me... why?

Wondergirl
Jun 21, 2015, 06:58 PM
But didn't you break up with him and move out? What's left? Was he supposed to chase after you and beg you to come home?

xjterry
Jun 21, 2015, 07:14 PM
But didn't you break up with him and move out? What's left? Was he supposed to chase after you and beg you to come home?

I left because of what he did and in order both of us to calm, we hadn't got any conversation he was angry he did what he did and I told him I am leaving and I left.. Yes I was waiting from him when he calmed down to think and maybe make a move to talk with me.. We staying together for 6 years, his reaction you think is OK? To avoid me?

Wondergirl
Jun 21, 2015, 07:30 PM
I left because of what he did and in order both of us to calm, we hadn't got any conversation he was angry he did what he did and I told him I am leaving and I left.. Yes I was waiting from him when he calmed down to think and maybe make a move to talk with me.. We staying together for 6 years, his reaction you think is OK? To avoid me?
Well, he "maybe" did make a move. And how close was he to smashing your head instead of your cellphone?

You made the first move and left. He took that as the end apparently.

xjterry
Jun 21, 2015, 07:37 PM
Well, he "maybe" did make a move. And how close was he to smashing your head instead of your cellphone?

You made the first move and left. He took that as the end apparently.

A lot of my stuff are still there, also I still have the keys of the house.. I don't feel strong enough to go there and take them.. I am not waiting for something, because what he did and still doing shows no respect to what he had.. I just cannot accept that he behaves to me like he hates me.. It hurts all this..

Cat1864
Jun 21, 2015, 08:13 PM
I broke up with my fiancée. I am 33 and he is 35. We were together for 6 years and the last 2 we were engaged. I was the one that left the house because the last months he was has pressure from his job and also he was telling me that I was putting pressure on him. He didn't want to talk with me and when I was trying to make conversations he was telling that I was nagging and he was leaving.
The day that I left I was calling him to bring some stuff home.I called him around 3 times and he didn't pick up the phone and the fourth time that he answered it, when I asked him were are you he started screaming at me, then he came home he broke up my mobile and he continue to scream and telling me now I will see how you are going to call me. He made me really upset and I told him that it is enough and I am leaving. He didn't do anything and he left from the house.

I think you missed some warning signs or purposely ignored them. From what you have written, I think he was already out of the relationship but didn't have the guts to end it himself. Instead he turned it around to where you walked out and he bears little responsibility for the outcome.

His blowing up and screaming at you plus breaking your phone sounds like he has some anger issues. I am not saying that you may not have pushed a button or two but he responded with violence. If that was the first time, were there other signs that this side of him existed? Is he usually very controlled in his emotional responses? Does he tend to be passive-aggressive and make you or someone else responsible for his actions especially the negative ones? If it wasn't the first time, how often does he lose control? Was he ever violent in the past?

Be honest with yourself about where the relationship was headed before you left. I don't think it would have lasted another week if you stayed. I think he would have been gone for good that night if you hadn't left.

I think you have escaped a trap. I think you should begin the process of letting go. Stop trying to make contact with him. Have a trusted third party contact him for picking up items you left behind that he hasn't already given back. Send payment for any bills outstanding that you are responsible for. Request payment for what he may owe you (or write it off as the cost of being free.) Give yourself permission to grieve. Look at your own behavior and see if there are issues of trust, anger, etc. that you need to work on to give yourself support in becoming a stronger person. Go out with your friends. Keep busy. Find a hobby or work on an existing one to keep your mind and body occupied.

I know you want closure but trying to get it on your terms, having him contact/talk to you, is feeding into his belief that you nag. Nagging, or rather his perception that you are nagging, will not result in getting the answers to your questions or the closure you want. Frankly, there is really nothing he could say that would adequately close the door for you to move on. If he is nice, he gives false hope. If he is mean, he adds even more pain to the confusion and hurt you already feel. Give yourself closure by accepting that it is over and whether you know why or not doesn't really matter in the long run.

Good luck.

Fr_Chuck
Jun 22, 2015, 12:48 AM
This relationship was over long before you left the house. And no, if anyone asked advice, we would say no contact. He has no reason to talk to you, and does not owe you any reason if he does not want to talk to you.

You can make a list of all of your things and have someone take it to the house, to give him. Have some 3rd party, arrange for you to go get your things.

xjterry
Jun 22, 2015, 09:54 AM
Thank you for your reply... I am not sure if he was already out of the relationship because before our fight he was very caring to me and also he was talking about when we are going to marry and that he wants a baby.. His behavior before our argument is tottaly different from what is now.. In general when we had arguments we were resolving them... It is the first time that I am leaving the house. I don't know what I am thinking or what I want.. I just didn't want this to end like that..

talaniman
Jun 22, 2015, 11:05 AM
Understandable considering this is all new and fresh in your heart and mind but it's a better course of action right now not to act out of confused feelings. Leave him alone until your own emotional dust has settled and can consider what has happened with a clear head.

xjterry
Jun 22, 2015, 11:15 AM
Tomorrow it is his birthday.. Do you think that it is OK to text him to wish?

Homegirl 50
Jun 22, 2015, 01:04 PM
I think you should leave him alone. He has given you every indication that he is done with you. It does not matter how things were. He blew up and has pushed you completely out of his picture.
No birthday greetings, nothing.

Wondergirl
Jun 22, 2015, 01:37 PM
Tomorrow it is his birthday.. Do you think that it is OK to text him to wish?
No. Do No Contact. It's over with.

talaniman
Jun 22, 2015, 02:13 PM
Harshness Warning


Tomorrow it is his birthday.. Do you think that it is OK to text him to wish?

After the way he has treated you? Heck NO! Are you crazy? Have some dignity and self respect because you know full well he will ignore you. Why would you even consider such a thing when you know it breaks NC and will hurt you when he doesn't respond or responds with anger.

xjterry
Jun 22, 2015, 04:14 PM
If I will wish shows that I have no self-respect and dignity? I know what he did, he knows what he did but I am not mean person. It is just a wish.. why is it so bad?

Wondergirl
Jun 22, 2015, 04:18 PM
If I will wish shows that I have no self-respect and dignity? I know what he did, he knows what he did but I am not mean person. It is just a wish.. why is it so bad?
A wish is fine. Please don't make that wish a reality.

xjterry
Jun 22, 2015, 04:43 PM
What do you mean? If I send a text writing 'happy b'day' it is so bad?

Wondergirl
Jun 22, 2015, 05:01 PM
What do you mean? If I send a text writing 'happy b'day' it is so bad?
YES. DO NOT do that!!!!!! It's over. Finished.

talaniman
Jun 22, 2015, 06:00 PM
Okay, you just do whatever makes you happy..

Homegirl 50
Jun 22, 2015, 07:31 PM
He has given you every indication that he wants nothing to do with you. He has told you before about calling him so much. Why would you think wishing him a happy birthday will make him happy or make a difference?
It is not about being good or bad or mean, it's about getting a clue and some dignity. Leave the man alone. He has left you alone.

xjterry
Jun 22, 2015, 07:53 PM
I am hurt and my feelings are confused.. I know that what you are telling me is because you can see the situation clearer but I feel like I am not supposed to feel this way. You are saying 'leave the man alone' 'it's finished' etc but how supportive is this? I mean I am grieving and it hurts a lot I need compasion not to fell like I am doing something wrong because I feel this way

Homegirl 50
Jun 22, 2015, 08:08 PM
I am telling the truth. Did you ask a question only to be told what you want to hear? I feel for you, I really do. If it will make you feel better to wish him happy birthday, do it, don't ask our opinion, but think about what you would tell your friend if she came to you with this scenario?
It will get better but you must step back and give yourself time and space to heal.

talaniman
Jun 22, 2015, 08:58 PM
<>Big CYBER HUG<> from us all. Got friends, or family? Call them.

Oliver2011
Jun 23, 2015, 06:10 AM
What do you want to happen at this point? When you make a bold move, right or wrong, like breaking up with someone, you have to understand that his reaction to that is completely 100% undoubtedly NOT in your control. From an outsider looking in, it seems as if you played your hand and wanted him to beg for you to take him back. And now you're saying "OOPS" because that didn't happen. If he doesn't want you back, there's not much you can do about that now. You gave him the out and he's running with it.

We get that you are hurting and need comfort right now. If we changed our answers because of that it wouldn't be giving you the best service. We have all been through breakups and we have all survived them. Dwelling on this is not going to help you in the long run. You need to get your mind focused on other things and each day you will be feeling better.


I am hurt and my feelings are confused.. I know that what you are telling me is because you can see the situation clearer but I feel like I am not supposed to feel this way. You are saying 'leave the man alone' 'it's finished' etc but how supportive is this? I mean I am grieving and it hurts a lot I need compasion not to fell like I am doing something wrong because I feel this way

talaniman
Jun 23, 2015, 06:44 AM
The worst thing you can do when you get dumped is to isolate yourself from other people. Hard to leave an ex alone if they were your ONLY support, and now you have none. Is this the case with you?

Oliver2011
Jun 23, 2015, 06:56 AM
I totally agree and the OP needs to learn from this too. You can't make your partner your sole existence and support. It's not healthy and is a very difficult situation should the relationship not survive. You need to keep your friends, family, and fun that is separate from your relationship. It makes the relationship so much more healthy. That is not to say you don't invite your partner to participate in some of those things.