Once again, after Climategate, 'science' is not so much science. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html)


So what part of science involves adjusting the data to support your agenda?

Speech you are aware that I think the manner in which the scientific community has behaved is deplorable and that this pseudo science for political ends must stop. This is not to say some action isn't needed to address the use of finite resources but given time the technology will be found there is no need for panic

Record low ice caps become record large icecaps in one year. Global warming on hold for 2 decades. Polar bears becoming extinct, no wait, they're overpopulated.


It all brings to mind the old joke about the most wonderful job in the world being that of a weatherman because every decision you make can be 180 degrees off and you still get to come in the next day.


And the Progressives want to base economic policy on a joke?!

No it just suits their agenda

MUCH new measuring and data collection is happening. I think just last night SpaceX sent up a satellite that will measure solar activity better. A company called Remote Sensory Systems (I think, remss.com) has 14 new satellites that do much better high and low atmosphere analysis, and can merge data to take out interference. NOAA or some gov't agency sent up a new satellite last summer to measure greenhouse gasses. Ocean temps and currents and towers are being measured better, and the RSS satellites can even correlate with that data.

It isn't all ice caps and mean global surface temps anymore.

And 3 cheers for the entrepreneurs diving into areas formerly reserved for gov't!

Private enterprise, like Al Gore, is in it for the money. I don’t know how anyone takes these climate warriors seriously anyway. Besides the continued manipulation of the data and spectacularly wrong predictions, 1700 private jets (not including commercial flights and who knows how many limos) gathering to solve the problem reeks of hypocrisy and indifference.

I can forget what the scientist say for now, and focus on cause, and effects of human activity. Basically air, water, and soil quality. The world looks different when you can't take a shower, or drink water from your faucets after a chemical/oil spill. From Alaska to the Gulf of Mexico we see those effects of human activity gone wrong. So while you debate what's settled science, and what ain't, what are facts, and what's fiction, let's not ignore the real world, and what we are doing to ourselves that is NOT in dispute, that we KNOW we have to do something about.

1700 private jets (not including commercial flights and who knows how many limos) gathering to solve the problem reeks of hypocrisy and indifference.But that's not what the gathering is about is it? They went to attend a Press Conference with Will.i.am (http://webcasts.weforum.org/widget/1/davos2015?fs=1&fsi=9&th=1&s=w#)

Lump the business world into one lump if you want. People like Musk want to bring down Goliaths, and still make a living. (One of his projects with Google is ousting the communications giants. Yay, eh?) And the gov't science agencies know that they are hampered by bureaucracy. As someone who has worked on health care since Clinton days said, 'No company with half a brain wanted to write the software according to the regulations.'

50 years ago I had a close friend whose sole aim was to take down Yachting Magazine just because it was so exclusive and stuffy. So he started SAIL (I helped at the beginning.) He went on to start INC, and so on.

As for Al Gore, you know damn well that he gave that money away.

And 3 cheers for the entrepreneurs diving into areas formerly reserved for gov't!

right on !

tal I hear a new fault line was discovered in Texas recently . Since it is so close to the home of the former President ,it has been renamed "Bush's Fault " .

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I am a big fan of private space and applaud that NASA is giving way to private space for exploration ,research ,and enterprise in low earth orbit. NASA has done some great work in deep space and robotic exploration so they have carved out a meaningful purpose for their existance . Perhaps they should stick to that and stop being an advocacy agency for some very questionable scientific conclusions.

I thought climate stuff was pretty much NOAA. But they and NASA and JPL etc overlap a lot.

Thanks for the Bush joke. Am working on a version that just says 'near Crawford, Texas' with no mention of any presidents.

What soothing something he is actually responsible for