View Full Version : Where are you, John and others who fight with this white bug?
Kayosan
Feb 5, 2015, 03:22 PM
Here are my questions:
1. Did you find something to kill these bugs for your absent 3 years?
2. Someday can I live without them? Is there hope!
3. Do I spread these bugs to the other places and people?
4. Do those who come to our apartment catch these bugs?
5. Do we eat these bugs with foods we eat?
6. This white thing and black spots are related?
7. I saw the spider web on the wall and under the sofa, and cocoon. Is this related this bugs?
8. Have you ever seen the nest or eggs?
I need help, and talk to someone, otherwise this bug makes me crazy.
I’m glad to find this site. I need help, help, help! There are no hope, it make me so depressing. The bugs John mentioned in his post, dated April 2011, are in my house, too. I like to hear again from those who wrote in this site because all are seriously fighting with this bug. This bugs are real, and biting and poking all over my body and nesting in my clothes. Where are you, John and others? The last article posted in November 2013. This is 2015. Please come back to this site to teach me and help me.
This bugs have been invaded whole our apartment rooms last November. We were out of country whole October2014. When we came back the first step in our home made big, big surprise. Everywhere looked dirty, and something flying around my face. I started to cleaning the rooms (3 bedrooms and I’m 80 years old, and living with Social Security). It was expensive to buy all kinds of sprays and cleaning stuff. Finally, owner of the apartment called an Orkin Inspector for us at the middle of December. He came and said spiders were taking over all the rooms. I showed him the black spots and some white things to him, and he said they were all lint. The white things started to notice, and at the same time I was bitten and poked. The inspector came twice and his final word was they would be gone away when the cold weather come. The Chicago’s zero weather came, but something are still flying around in this apartment rooms as of 5 February, 2015
My intensive cleaning and fighting with these bugs started last November but when I think back it might be started with HP computer, made in China, October 2010 purchased date. Whenever setting the computer I felt something around my head and hair. I sprayed many things and throw the furniture away and moving around the computer. I went to hardware store, and consult what I should do. The man suggested that put the computer and keyboard in the plastic bag with “Hot Shot No Pest Strip2” for 4 weeks. So I did. But it was too late that the bugs have been invaded whole apartment rooms.
Catsmine
Feb 5, 2015, 03:42 PM
Spiders and spiderlings could account for the bites, but from your description springtails, thrips, or fungus gnats are also possible. The most common insect/arachnid to cause these symptoms are dust mites, but they are microscopic so seeing them flying around doesn't happen.
Other causes can include static electricity(from the computer) charging paper fibers from a printer (you didn't mention if you had a printer), allergies to different species of mildew (spores can be visible and float in the air), or a delayed reaction to something you were exposed to overseas.
Kayosan
Feb 15, 2015, 08:58 PM
All those bugs mentioned in Catsmine’s reply are not THE same bugs I have in our apartment. Those bugs are killed and there are many remedies which I made over twenty different things and tried THE bug, but they weren’t working. I throw all my precious plants, and furniture and clothes. No remedies for THE bug I have. Does Casmine have any another idea of remedies for THE bug I have? If so I have willingly to try them. THE bugs in my home are REAL. I have many marks on my body of THE bugs bites and pokes. I see the things all the time and have been experiencing many things.
I wish Catsmine and others who can’t believe THE bug we have in our home, comes here and lives for weeks. Then, they will find out how woeful THIS bus is. Many of those who have THE bug are feeling like there is no hope in our lives, and the thought make us depressing. Some are expressing to think about death. I agreed. Actually I was thinking about it twice. Some are getting sick from THIS bug, or infection.
Hopefully, the Ministry of Foreign Affair, or the Ministry of Health and Welfare, or the Ministry of International Trade Industry of the U.S. Government, or HP, or Target, or those importing trading companies should investigate and work about THIS bug. THIS bug will be spreading all over the U.S. soon.
Catsmine
Feb 16, 2015, 01:55 AM
Did you ever get rid of the spiders?
Kayosan
Feb 20, 2015, 10:51 PM
Thanks to Catsmine! Kayosan is glad to hear from you with this kind of question. To her this is positive thinking question, so Kayosan can think and see what she is doing. Thanks again.
The spiders or the spider mites must be in this apartment as the respectable Orkin Inspector said. However, Kayosan did not to see any actual spiders, but saw the spider web on the walls, and under the sofas, dozen cocoons, and the bugs flying around with inches long webs. Orkin Inspector said all those from spiders. Kayosan think that there have seen no more those things after throwing all the precious collection of her plants. That was taken place around New Year.
However, there were black dots, more tiny white specks (these one is bite and pike), and flying bugs around her face, especially nose and mouth. Around the time Kayosan noticed bite and poke on her body; the top part of her back, around her private place, under the breast, the back of hand, the armpits, etc.
The bugs are anyone's house, but once the bugs contact with human, bite or poke, it has to think twice, Kayosan heard. So Kayosan stop going to church, visiting people, attending any celebrations, etc. It is very hard to live with this bugs.
Thanks again, Kayosan
PS Do you think those spiders ate the white specks? There were some white specks at the time, but no bath room and kitchen. Right now, white specks are taking over Kayosan's apartment.
Fr_Chuck
Feb 21, 2015, 12:46 AM
Does anyone suggest calling a professional extermination company, who can ID the bugs. Many bugs can come from US warehouses or on boats in transit. But if home empty a long time, most possible came from neighbors homes, or perhaps some traveled back to your home.
I know my wife and I had issues at some hotels this last month, and ended up with some bug issues that traveled back with us and luggage.
Catsmine
Feb 21, 2015, 03:45 AM
Does anyone suggest calling a professional extermination company
Kayosan does mention Orkin inspectors several times.
Kayosan
Feb 22, 2015, 08:07 PM
Thank you to Fr (are you Father)_Chuck and Catsmine for taking time to post your concern words. Sorry for let you think about Kayosan, but your words gave Kayosan comfort and peace. Kayosan feel so shame to say, “I'm a Christian, believe Jesus Christ is my Lord God and Savior.” Kayosan is coward to think about death to escape from her hard life. Kayosan's Pastor sent her very long (16 pages) prayer, “Standing Firmly: Prayers for God's People,” by Dr. Mark W. Anderson which made her realizing how much she had sins. Kayosan should do the confession and talking to the Lord God, more often.
Fr_Chuck and Catsmine, Kayosan will promise to walk through THE bug problem in her life with the Lord through this prayer, and so many people's concerned hearts and prayer.
Also Kayosan has to take care her husband right now. Kayosan can't think about the death. Kayosan's husband is hardly seeing anything because of his eyes' infection.
Well, it is getting long again. Please check Kayosan sometime and let Kayosan know the special good remedy to catch THE bug or some spray to kill THE bug. Kayosan'll post again how she is doing
Thanks Kayosan
Kayosan
Mar 16, 2015, 10:08 PM
Dear Catsmine
This is Kayosan. Today The bugs bite and poke me my face and feet lots. Last 3 or 4 days I thought there is no bugs, but now today. I'm still vacuum everyday.
I'd like to know what are these white things?
1. Last Friday I noticed white spots (1/4 inch diameter) on the dinning room wooden floor, and today about 12 inch wide white things at the wooden bottom of the wall in the front room. Dinning room's spots I made mistake because I used bleach and wiped it. The spots are still on the floor. 12 inch wide white things I used water and scrabbled with the green kitchen scrabbled pan thing (I don't know what it call). After scrabbling the white things and wiped with a cloth, the cloth became ugly black. It was really black. But the white things came out very good. I took the pictures of those but I don't know how to put the pictures in this article.
2. There still have carpet in our front room. While cleaning the white thing on the wood, I found around 1/4 inch white hard things with many shapes were on the under carpet form. About 6 or 7 weeks ago, I saw the same things on the form, so I took all around the forms, then I felt number of THE bugs had been reduced. So I took the white things from the forms today. Carrying them with my hand wearing thin gloves, I felt biting by the white things.
Please let me know what those things.
I kept the white hard things. I really like to throw them away, though. Do you think I should send them someplace to find out what it is?
I have already said the number of the bugs reduced after I took many those white hard things in many shapes from the carpet form 6 or 7 weeks ago, and also I notice THE bugs are changed. NOW bugs are smaller and not biting my body (not totally sometime I feel biting), but mainly NOW the flying bugs bother my face; nose, mouth, eye, and ears. Do you think I have different bugs? I feel like I have 3? May be 4 different bugs since 2014 September.
I will insert photo tomorrow.
Catsmine
Mar 17, 2015, 02:03 AM
That sounds a lot like a mildew or fungus. The dimensions you list, from 1/4 inch to 12 inches, do not sound like bugs. As I have said, fungi spores do float around and some are just barely visible.
I won't comment any further until I see the pictures.
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joypulv
Mar 17, 2015, 03:58 AM
Aside from fungus, what about the 1/4" white things under the carpet form (foam?) that are hard, and can be picked up...?
Any chance of mealy bugs as the fungus, which deposit long threads of white, and can bite?
tickle
Mar 17, 2015, 06:20 AM
Aside from fungus, what about the 1/4" white things under the carpet form (foam?) that are hard, and can be picked up...?
Any chance of mealy bugs as the fungus, which deposit long threads of white, and can bite?
Mealy bugs feed on plants though. If they bite they would have a taste for blood, which they don't. They are more prolific in warmer climates.
Do we know where OP lives ?
Catsmine
Mar 17, 2015, 09:14 AM
Do we know where OP lives ?
In the original post, Kayosan mentioned Chicago
tickle
Mar 17, 2015, 11:18 AM
In the original post, Kayosan mentioned Chicago
That would rule out mealy bufs then. Would it not ? They so fit the bill. Wonder if OP has a lot of plants in their house?
Kayosan
Mar 17, 2015, 06:36 PM
Thank you for your input, Catsmine, and others.
I throw all my beautiful flowers and plants last January because of Spiders or Spider Mites. :(
Here are photos:
3/13 Friday's one (I'd already wipe several times, so it is not clear)
By the way the white things on the HP key board, too.
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3/14 Monday
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1/2 inch white one in many shapes on the carpet foam
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Did I do Okay? Hopefully you can see them for better understanding.
Thanks! Kayosan
Kayosan
Mar 17, 2015, 06:44 PM
I made mistake. I insert same photo twice.
Here is Friday's one (I'd already wiped couple time, so it is not clear)
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SORRY! Kayosan
Catsmine
Mar 18, 2015, 01:31 AM
There seems to be some trouble with the website. Your pictures are listed but do not show. I will contact the technical people. Your patience is appreciated.
Kayosan
Mar 18, 2015, 07:12 AM
Good Morning, Catsmite
Thank you for your kindness.
I can open those first photos, but I can't open seconds 4 photos. I'll try to insert again in here.
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Thank you! Kayosan
Cat1864
Mar 18, 2015, 08:03 AM
Kayosan, I am posting your pictures that are still showing up for so that others can see them.
Can you 'insert' your pictures instead of 'attaching' them?
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Two other pictures from a post from last night:
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Catsmine
Mar 18, 2015, 08:09 AM
Thanks, Cat.
Kayosan, Mildew is a possibility, although the white stains look as if a mildew was cleaned up and discolored the wood. Those were not made by insects.
Have you considered a dehumidifier to make it harder for mildew to grow?
joypulv
Mar 18, 2015, 10:08 AM
tickle, I have lived all over the northeast US my entire life, and mealy bugs are quite happy here.
I had a yew the size of Chicago once, and pruned it back too much, and the mealy bugs became as thick as wigs on a bunch of British judges.
Kayosan
Mar 18, 2015, 10:17 AM
Dear Catsmine
Thanks for your advise. In the winter time our apartment rooms are very dry because of the heater, so we had never been thinking about dehumidifier. Well, it will be spring soon, then, I can see what it going on.
I try to attach the other photos of white hard things on the under carpet foams.
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You can't see many small white one on this foam, because the photo is too small. What can I do?
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Well, thanks! Kayosan
Catsmine
Mar 18, 2015, 12:54 PM
Aha! Pictures! Thank you. I increased the magnification on my screen and did see the small white things on the foam. They are approximately the size of the mealybugs Joypuly was mentioning.
While I cannot positively identify them from these photos, for your information mealy bugs can be controlled with applications of Diatomaceous Earth, which should not cause you problems with toxicity, since it is a mechanical insecticide.
Diatomaceous Earth General Fact Sheet (http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/degen.html)
Kayosan
Mar 18, 2015, 06:03 PM
No article at here. Sorry!
It is very hard to manage of post a article. I want to delete this article, but I can't.
Kayosan
Jun 6, 2015, 07:29 PM
Hi, Catsmine
Kayosan has still been fighting with The Bugs. First of all thank you for your concerned and many replied. White “meldew” things have been becoming worst and worst over the walls and floors. One of the wall of kitchen became white how many times Kayosan wiped. Then Kayosan remember your advise, and went to paint-shop to consult, and then bottom half wall covered with wall paper were painted with anti-mold paint around at the middle of May. The kitchen walls are still okay.
The white one appeared on the wooden floor at the front room, spraying and wiping with the water and ammonia wasn’t work, bleach (the man at paint shop said bleach is the best for mold and mildew) wasn’t work, Lysol, vinegar with peppermint oil, and so on, even green tea but wasn’t work, finally scrubbing bobble was worked, and finished by with lemon scent pledge. The floors are still okay. The white things on another floors treated with scrubbing bubble wasn’t working this time. The white things on the vinyl file drawer was worked with just water, and lacquer finished tray were very hard to get rid of them. The finally little drop of expensive Oregano oil was worked. It is very scare to see coming or growing back The White things after treating many different stuff. Kayosan thinks this is not simply mildew or mold. Oregano oil seems the best, but it is very expensive. If you have any idea please reply to Kayosan.
The Diatomaceous Earth (DE) – Crashing the small Crystal like (you saw on the foam under the carpet) becomes the Powder (some said it is bugs). The DE powder and the Powder are very similar of the feeling. It seems the Powder is taking over the DE, and wherever the powder sprayed the white things appear.
Thank you in advance for your response.
Catsmine
Jun 7, 2015, 02:39 AM
Kayosan, I do not recall you saying whether your apartment is on the ground floor. If it is, can you persuade the landlord to have the moisture content of the crawlspace measured? You may also wish to look into a dehumidifier for the apartment. Fungi (molds and mildew) require a high humidity to grow that fast.
ma0641
Jun 7, 2015, 12:31 PM
The spots most likely are water and chemical damage to the floor and trim finish. The "white shapes" in the photos are pieces of recycled polyurethane and would be expected. From my past chemical and pest control experience, I see nothing related to insects or pests.
Kayosan
Jun 7, 2015, 08:40 PM
Thanks to Catsmine and Ma0641 for your reply.
Catsmine, our apartment is 2nd floor. Both 1st floor, our owner is living and 3rd floor have no problems of mold or mildew. Even in the basement. My skin doctor and allergy doctor both told me I have extreme dry skin, so it is better to buy the humidifier. Now you told I should get dehumidipher. What should I do?
Ma0641, the white crystal like and white powder were on our bed sheets. I actually cried at the idle of the night, because itches all over my body. I really pray to the Lord God send to me the Angels to protect me tonight. The white powder must be on my hands this morning after I cleaned and touched my sheets no matter how much I washed many different cleaning agents, my hands was very shinny and very very sticky. Another things I found in my body. I lost 15 lbs since last November, so I have many wrinkles, one of the wrinkles on the joint of legs and hips there are white things are sticked. It makes me needle poking like pain and same times itches and soooo much uncomfortable.
I hope you understand mine and others who are in same condition and hopelessness life.
Catsmine
Jun 8, 2015, 11:36 AM
Catsmine, our apartment is 2nd floor. Both 1st floor, our owner is living and 3rd floor have no problems of mold or mildew. Even in the basement. My skin doctor and allergy doctor both told me I have extreme dry skin, so it is better to buy the humidifier.
If that's the case, mildew may not be the problem.
If you can get to the skin doctor with samples of the white things around your legs, maybe he/she can identify it.
Kayosan
Jun 8, 2015, 09:54 PM
Hi Catsmine. Thank you for your reply. It makes me little bits surprise but I've really been thankful to you taking times to write and showing your concern.
I've already been asked the doctors as you said. He said "I'm taking care of my patients' scare, cut, etc. and continued to taking care of my skin something happened. He said he believes I have a bugs from my scares (several bugs in my body), but he is not believing parasitatic. He can't see any new scares so he can do any things at this time so this is finished. Please good luck to taking care of your bugs.
Those who are suffering from The Bugs says none of the doctors (general practitioner, allergy doctor or skin doctor could not be helping. And there are no hope and no helping hand in medical world, and also the bugs specialist or exterminators. Many are spending big amount money, but couple weeks later they are coming back. Another things The Bugs we are suffering are very small and tiny like powder, and they bite but there are no scars or itchesness (several minutes)
It is very hard because there is no hope and The Bugs have never been killed. I have to wait for my powerful and faithful Lord God to showing His miracles like He did in Egypt. Because only God can do to take The Bugs away from us, so I trust and believe the Lord God.
Catsmine and many others like Catsmine and any country's Government take this matter seriously. I feel these flying bugs at stores, markets and restaurants. Good night! Hopefully, everyone has good night sleep.
ma0641
Jun 9, 2015, 06:25 AM
"I feel these flying bugs at stores, markets and restaurants". And therein lies the answer.
Kayosan
Jun 9, 2015, 08:25 PM
It is truth. If you are not infested with The Bugs, in other word you aren't loved by This Bugs you can't feel with this over whelming sensational hovering feeling on your face and head. At the left over Christmas goods boxes, the allergy medicine aisle, clearning stuff aisles, rest rooms of any public buildings, I can feel.
Isn't it scared you? I was very much scared for everyone. One more things, the most inexpensive instant Ramen section.
I pray for the Lord to come quickly to the air taking us home, or God the Lord shows his miracles like He did at Egypt to get rid of this things (The Bugs), or CDC or Military or any countries Government Ofgivisls to take this matter seriously to find out what this is.
Thank you listening. Catsmine, please please understand our sufferings.
Catsmine
Jun 10, 2015, 03:17 PM
Did you start using the humidifier before or after the irritations started? If before, it may be causing something to grow. You might try some eucalyptus oil in the water. Eugenol has some pesticidal effects.
Kayosan
Jun 10, 2015, 09:17 PM
Thank you for taking time for me to check and write.
I checked at where I can get Eucalyptus oil sold. It was very expensive. If it is not 100% I can gets 4 oz $14.99.
I have been using peppermint oil mixed with vinegar for every days clothings, and lemon oil mix with water for closet. Just resently I ordered oregano oil for me to taking one drop every day. Oregano oil seems to good for these stickey white things. But it was very expensive.
Is it okay to use not 100% eucalyptus oil diluted with water (several drops to one gallon water) to spray on the sticky white floor and any other places? Then, I can afford it.
Thanks again. I'll report to you it's working or not. Thanks again, Kayosan
PS With my hands and slipper these white sticky one transferred any other places. It is very scarely.
ma0641
Jun 11, 2015, 01:20 PM
After reading the posts, I'll be the antagonist. "At the left over Christmas goods boxes, the allergy medicine aisle, clearning (sic) stuff aisles, rest rooms of any public buildings, I can feel." So therefore you are saying it may not be your apartment. "CDC or Military or any countries Government Ofgivisls( sic"). I think you should seek health counseling if THE BUGS are allegedly everywhere.
Kayosan
Jun 11, 2015, 10:29 PM
Hi, ma6041 yes you are right. I and other who are suffering with The Bugs have allergic reaction with The Bugs. I, I can't say others but the most of them treated by the skin doctor and allergy doctor, have already been adlingwith allergy doctor to find out what I am allergic. The doctor said if I bring the name of bugs, and then he can check I am allergy or not. Allergy doctor can't find the name of The Bugs I'm allergic to. I can't take the name of The Bugs. No one knows what kind, how bigs, what behavior The Bugs has. It is very, very, strange and harmful Bugs.
Ma6041, of course you should be antagonized to what I said. It is scarely things. If you have allergy for The Bugs you may be catch it. However, I think the flying object stage are the end of their lives. I don't know anything about The Bugs, but their egg stage, or larva stage should be careful. If those who do't have any allergy (I said The Bugs don't love you), no use to worry even eating and sleeping togather. (Some said it is better not have any love making.) My husband has been sleeping the same bed and eating food I prepared since lady November. I tried to use lots of harlics and black pepper because The Bugs do NOT like them, that I he's rd. He has been safe.
The Bugs live for 3 or 4 or more weeks in the any kind of liquid, in the zero weather, 208 degree hot water, and any kind of the insecticide. The Bugs do NOT die. Here, I want to say pest experts, Any department goverent (with our taxes), military, or anyone, please pay attention this matter seriously.
Because of The Bugs, one lady sacrifice her life to apart from her family because she doesn't want to take any chance her teenage Children infaste, some mother who has baby and 2 yrs old girl (both children infested) how horrible these children are suffering with biting, poking, itching and crying, but the mother has same horrible feeling. How can this mother spending the day? She has to clean the house, too. Some lady after she had infested her 27 hrs old son was killed with drunk driver. There are many other stories.
I'm a Christian. I have to pray for these people and me of course, and asking every day to the Lord God created heaven and earth, and had done powerful and great miracles at Egypt, to get rid of The Bugs because only He can do it.
However, if someone like you or any others have good idea we really like to know sooner. Our lives are very uncertain. Thank you for listening!
PS I'm sorry poor English, many mistake in spelling and grammar. English is not my mother tongue.
Catsmine
Jun 12, 2015, 02:57 AM
Kayosan, I thought we had covered this assumption that you have an insect problem. If there were insects, they or their debris would be identifiable. You say you have had medical and entomological professionals examine your home, body, and samples and found nothing identifiable. I have tried to present you other alternatives that might cause skin irritation and now you say it's none of these things it has to be bugs. It is not bugs.
The only other possibility I can think of is neurological. Many medical conditions, including diabetes and incorrect medication dosage, can cause nerve irritation that feels like bites. As ma0641 has politely tried to point out, your feeling these things everywhere indicate your feelings are the problem, not some external irritant. Perhaps your doctors need to do a more thorough workup than just skin samples.